The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:55 pm Is Drago getting lynched for sleaze? Lol.

I would say the sleaze put him over the edge, but it's not all sleaze.

What's there else?

I don't wanna play with drago but idk if he's scum

epi doesn't deserve to be lynched

I think i'm going with 112

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

yea idk the dragomir wagon looks sketchier, so says my heart

I'm leaning towards voting Drago at the moment, btw.

iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:57 pm yea idk the dragomir wagon looks sketchier, so says my heart

nut and juliets for sure

iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:57 pm yea idk the dragomir wagon looks sketchier, so says my heart

Whaaaat? The dragomir wagon looks hype right now compared to the 112 wagon.

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:58 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:57 pm yea idk the dragomir wagon looks sketchier, so says my heart

Whaaaat? The dragomir wagon looks hype right now compared to the 112 wagon.

Yeah this

Mac's shitting the bed

Evenstar wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:57 pm I don't wanna play with drago but idk if he's scum

epi doesn't deserve to be lynched

I think i'm going with 112

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

lol
[VOTE: Drago] aubergine

anime super betrayal [VOTE: No Lynch] aubergine

yeah i'm not touching this lol

glgl

[mention]MacDougall[/mention]

Gl

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:58 pm Mac's shitting the bed

How so?

I feel more comfortable on Drago than 112.

Hyena stop making it tied right before eod

nobody expects the iafr unvote

Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:59 pm Hyena stop making it tied right before eod

ok

vote:113

If Drago flips wolf I'm treating myself to ice cream

Lynched for sleaze lol

iaafr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:00 pm nobody expects the iafr unvote

Everyone expects the iaafr unvote

Good. Poll is locked. Time to go cook.

Who threatens the subconscious mind?
Poll ended at Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:00 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.


112
7
23%
Voters: Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005
Benson
0
No votes
Voters: None
Creature
0
No votes
Voters: None
DFaraday
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dom
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dragomir
10
32%
Voters: Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets
Elephant
0
No votes
Voters: None
Epignosis
1
3%
Voters: MacDougall
Evenstar
3
10%
Voters: Texas Cloverleaf, sprityo, Quin
Hyena
2
6%
Voters: Dom, Michelle
iaafr
0
No votes
Voters: None
Jackofhearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
juliets
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lady Lambdadelta
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDougall
1
3%
Voters: Dragomir
Master Radishes
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
novaselinenever
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
1
3%
Voters: Lady LambdaDelta
Pawn Lelouch
0
No votes
Voters: None
Quin
0
No votes
Voters: None
Rej
0
No votes
Voters: None
Spiny Creature
0
No votes
Voters: None
sprityo
0
No votes
Voters: None
Texas Cloverleaf
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
Trustworthy Liberal
1
3%
Voters: 112
vanity.
0
No votes
Voters: None
No Lynch
2
6%
Voters: iaafr, boo
No vote presently/unvote
0
No votes
Voters: None
This is ONLY for hosts/non-players
3
10%
Voters: Sloonei, speedchuck, JaggedJimmyJay
Total votes: 31

Dragomir has been neutralized and awoken from the dream. He was:



Inception Phase 1 begins now. You have approximately 24 hours, until 6:00 PM EST, to send your actions to both hosts.

The thread is LOCKED.

[10] Dragomir - Benson, nutella, vanity., Long Con, Master Radishes, Hyena, Trustworthy Liberal, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Pawn Lelouch, juliets
[7] 112 - Creature, Evenstar, TonyStarkPrime, novaselinenever, Elephant, Epignosis, Jackofhearts2005
[3] Evenstar - Texas Cloverleaf, sprityo, Quin
[2] Hyena - Dom, Michelle
[2] No Lynch - iaafr, boo
[1] Epignosis - MacDougall
[1] MacDougall - Dragomir
[1] nutella - Lady LambdaDelta
[1] Trustworthy Liberal - 112

Inception Phase 1 has ended.

TonyStarkPrime has been eliminated. He was:


Texas Cloverfleaf has been eliminated. They were:


Subconscious Phase 2 begins now. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.


The following players populate this location:

[mention]Benson[/mention]
Spiny Creature / [mention]boo[/mention]
[mention]Creature[/mention]
[mention]DFaraday[/mention]
[mention]Elephant[/mention]
[mention]Hyena[/mention]
[mention]juliets[/mention]
[mention]Long Con[/mention]
[mention]nutella[/mention]
[mention]Trustworthy Liberal[/mention]
[mention]vanity.[/mention]

oh come on why am i selected to have to play the game

lame

Oh shit are we split up into separate threads now? Ok

RIP Tony, uhhh looks like Texas was something secret

Have some analysis I typed up over the night phase, will paste it over shortly

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:03 pm Oh shit are we split up into separate threads now? Ok

RIP Tony, uhhh looks like Texas was something secret

Have some analysis I typed up over the night phase, will paste it over shortly

oh we are? lame

looks like 7 of us voted on drago

Hello Hello i am here interesting group of people that are here

seems vanity's happy to be here xD

Either way anyone know why Texas's information is ???

Damn, I hate when they split us up.

Goodbye Tony and Texas, I guess Texas was janitored?

I have the votes from 4 pm till EOD at 6 listed by time of who voted who if you guys want me to post it.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:03 pm Oh shit are we split up into separate threads now? Ok

RIP Tony, uhhh looks like Texas was something secret

Have some analysis I typed up over the night phase, will paste it over shortly

Wait do we see both halfs?

or is the other secert?

elephant dfaraday creature boo all didn't vote on drago

2 of them voted on 112

tsp was probably vigged? or can we not discuss that?

Vote order based on in-thread tags, starting from the first vote on Dragomir (about an hour and forty-five minutes before the deadline)

Voter (Votee) - # of votes on that votee as of that vote (votee they moved off of: # of votes left there)

Nanook (Drago) - 1
nutella (Drago) - 2
vanity (Drago) - 3
Benson (Drago) - 4
iaafr (112) - 5?
Hyena (Tony) - ?
iaafr (Drago) - 5 (112: 4)
Pawn (Drago) - 6
boo (no lynch) - 1
Trustworthy Liberal (Drago) - 7
juliets (Drago) - 8
vanity (Tony) - ? (Drago: 7)
Benson (Tony) - ? (Drago: 6)
iaafr (Epi) - 2 (Drago: 5)
Mac (Epi) - 3
Nova (Epi) - 4
Hyena (112) - 5 (Tony: ?)
Hyena (Epi) - 5 (112: 4)
vanity (Drago) - 6 (Epi: 4)
Benson (Drago) - 7 (Tony: ?) *
iaafr (112) - 3 (Epi: 3)
Master Radishes (Drago) - 8
(???) (112) - 5 **
Long Con (112) - 6 **
Nova (112) - 7 (Epi: 2)
Eva (112) - 8
Hyena (Drago) - 9 (Epi: 1)
iaafr (no lynch) - 2 (112: 7)
Hyena (unvote) (Drago: 8)
Hyena (Drago) - 9
Long Con (Drago) - 10 (112: 6)
Tony (112) - 7


*Had a lot of trouble backtracing the tony tally here, as mac commented that after Benson moved Tony only had 1 vote but I think there must have been some unvotes then that I missed, or I started with the wrong count from the point I started from idk

**some confusion here, I think LC, Nova, and Eva, and possibly someone else though j couldn't figure out who, all voted in the poll at about the same time.



So vanity was an earlier Drago vote, briefly left it, then eventually was the one to break the tie with Epi. He's probably just town here.

Hyena looks quite good with the switch to Drago at the end imo.

juliets joined the drago wagon at its first peak; if she's his teammate she could have seen the high tally at that time and figured he was going down, and then later when it got convoluted again she avoided getting involved. But she could also be town. Inconclusive imo but certainly not a net positive for her.

Benson, iaafr, and pawn look generally okay but certainly not cleared from this. I'm trying to figure out who looks too clean and it's hard to tell. Maybe vanity.

Tony's last minute vote looks like it could have been a desperate attempt to save drago if he hadn't noticed that there was a bigger gap by then and it wouldn't matter. But that might be stretching it, no reason to assume he's scum here.

Not mentioned in my tally are earlier votes for 112 from Creature, Elephant, Epi, and Jack; I found their vote tags in their post history from various times before the point from which I started the count, and they all appeared to have stayed there throughout eod. See ** above, maybe I missed something there. Further inquiry into the circumstances of their votes and lack of changing thereof may be warranted.


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Drago Interaction analysis

viewtopic.php?f=260&t=1812&p=558094#p558094

Distancing here w/ juliets?

viewtopic.php?f=260&t=1812&p=558103#p558103

+ Backing off quickly

Hard to tell if this is a potential teammate relationship but it's worth considering

viewtopic.php?f=260&t=1812&p=558136#p558136

Easy target? (Probably clear enough from the competing wagons but 112 p much lock town)

viewtopic.php?f=260&t=1812&p=558218#p558218

Capitalizing on his own tmi imo. This makes both creature and jack town I think.

viewtopic.php?f=260&t=1812&p=558383#p558383

Now that we know he did in fact have a safe flavor claim, it may be worth rereading that conversation to see if anyone else may have known that.

I think juliets looks better from that related interaction, for one.


Sooo what do y'all think about Eva?? My initial thought was that she is probably just town here, barring some elaborately concocted teammate dance, which I guess I can't put past her. Idk, maybe I need to look at their interactions more closely, at least the more on topic ones like the safe claim argument/discussion of 112. Maybe she was lightly/surreptitiously trying to push 112 as a target along with him? And the flirty stuff was deliberate distancing of a weird flavor? Eh. I can see it but I'm not sold.

viewtopic.php?f=260&t=1812&p=558554#p558554

Backing off the 112 push and going for another target. Tony town here?

......Hmmm actually he tried to associate Eva and Mac together, then promised a case on Mac and came back just to give up on that. Mac spewed town? And Eva scum? Or vice versa?

Going to revisit his interactions with Hyena as well, despite my thinking hyena is town and looks good from the lynch, some of their interactions gave me funny feelings.

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:05 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:03 pm Oh shit are we split up into separate threads now? Ok

RIP Tony, uhhh looks like Texas was something secret

Have some analysis I typed up over the night phase, will paste it over shortly

oh we are? lame

looks like 7 of us voted on drago

Yes, and high fives to those who voted for him.

didn't really edit that so I apologize if it's confusing also feel free to ignore the Tony stuff lol

As I'm writing this I may or may not be dead (Schrodinger joke here) but I'm fucking hyped about the state of things after that lynch. Like we got got got the Godfather on D1. There's no way the wolves didn't counter push that wagon so we have many juicy reads to be gleaned from that flip. Obviously, Nanook is not a wolf after that. 112 can be my best pal again. That entire wagon on Drago is almost green, I'm sure. And the CW's are probably riddled with wolves. Nova came out of that round looking like a wolf for the attempt to save Drago.

READS:

Strong town read

Nanook - Huge push against Drago. This doesn't happen if he's w/w.

112 - Spewed probable non-wolf by Drago: 112 also served as the CW that some wolves likely pushed to save Drago. 3P should remain a possibility, however.

Nutella - Involvement in Drago lynch is great.
The vote was fairly early on the wagon and a major contribution to the lynch. Her subsequent posts after the fact helped push the wagon along.

Town read/leans

Pawn - Big Drago vote.

vanity - Proponent and voter of the Drago wagon.

Juliets - Interactions with Drago suggest town. Her vote was fairly crucial in Drago's lynch and I don't see her as the type to bus like that.

Iaarf - Overall, had a villagery progression at EoD even though it did seem like he wanted 112 lynched over Drago, and almost made it happen.
Drago was hunting iaarf as a 3P candidate early on. This is typical wolf stuff when they no someone isn't a wolf, but may be 3P instead of a villager.

Hyena - I don't agree the wolf accusations. What I see is a villager with specific tactics to get reads and reactions that will help us.

Eva - I'm not sure where I stand on her. I was village reading her but after EoD she's lost some town equity. I'll have to re-evaluate.


PoE – towny

Master Radishes - He can have a little credit for switching to Drago, but he late on the wagon and MR is no enemy of bussing.

Long con - Idk, I just like him

Jack - I like Jack, but I want to call this TMI: viewtopic.php?f=260&t=1812&start=3350#p561129

Mac - He started the push for Epig at the same time the Drago wagon was taking off. It's concerning, however Nova tries to help Mac lynch Epi in a way I don't see w/w partners doing; and I'm already liking Nova as a wolf.

Spiny/boo - OK. He had some interactions with Drago that suggest they may not be w/w

TLib - He's saved by helping push Drago before it was a sure deal. If he's wolf, he could've just pushed 112 instead.

Epignosis

PoE - Null

Ladylambda
Quin
DFaraday
Rej
Dom
Michelle
sprityo

PoE - wolfy

Creature - I remember seeing his name at the bottom for most of EoD, but he wasn't posting as if he was a frozen wolf. Given the content I've seen from him, I don't see how he wouldn't be contributing at EoD, even if he wasn't caught up.

Elephant - Maybe I didn't find the mislynch seeds, but I'm still suspicious of him and his agenda. His EoD did nothing to elevate himself.


Wolf reads
Nova - Tried extensively to push away from the Drago lynch. Like his ISO is literally 50% defending Drago or trying to lynch a CW. Prime suspect today.

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***After reading the kills****

Wtf, two of my wolf leans were killed. I'm not sure how that will affect the reads now.

kinda surprising they didn't kill a more obvious townie but I don't like to NKA much so whatever

feel very confident that nutella, creature, and benson are v's in this group

guess i could be wrong on creature. meh.

Those kills are weird. So, are we to expect the wolves shot Texas and covered the kill with their Janitor? Obviously, Texas is worth examining.