The Syndicate

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:37 am My tenses are all messed up, you get the idea

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:36 am I mean, I said at the time i think that I felt like I should be TRing him, I didn't all the way get there but obviously its not surprising when he flipped town lol

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:44 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:36 am I mean, I said at the time i think that I felt like I should be TRing him, I didn't all the way get there but obviously its not surprising when he flipped town lol

does it affect any of your reads or how you feel about hk or anything

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 8:50 pmSaints won ^^

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:13 pm ow: *hardly exists*

mac: aha look at that ow. top town for sure

ow: *squints eyes at mac*

everyone else: wtf is this read

mac: oh haha c'maaaaan look at ow he's just so towny c'mon guys

*ow dies*

mac: aw darn I can't believe me making the god read on ow out of absolutely nowhere got ow killed. damn that's crazy

Achromatic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:44 am @Porscha

Hi, have you seen Mac have this type of erratic reads as a wolf before? I suppose anyone can answer this but you proposed a model of 'mac would do this as wolf' so I was curious to hear what insight you might have.

I think I have arrived at Mac is struggling this game being true as either alignment, so now I am trying to figure out if this is a wolf struggling or a town struggling.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:47 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:44 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:36 am I mean, I said at the time i think that I felt like I should be TRing him, I didn't all the way get there but obviously its not surprising when he flipped town lol

does it affect any of your reads or how you feel about hk or anything

Not particularly, why would my reads change for someone that I thought probably flipped town...flipping town ?

risiinq- wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:24 am kinda just feel like mac is a wolf bcuz he's off, i dont really have a super concrete reason and im voting there to just test the waters.

when i get in front of my desk again ill try to do some isos/notetaking, although i do have some work to do

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:58 am

risiinq- wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:24 am kinda just feel like mac is a wolf bcuz he's off, i dont really have a super concrete reason and im voting there to just test the waters.

when i get in front of my desk again ill try to do some isos/notetaking, although i do have some work to do

right? This isn't the mac I've seen recently lol something us mad off

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:30 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:28 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:27 pm (can we not say policy lynching, it's gross and bad)

do you want to call it policy voting or what's the issue here

Just putting policy and lynching next to each other is gross. But I also hate the word lynching but adding policy in front is worse.

Policy vite/kill/yeet/exe/lim/etc

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:42 pm I do sorta like p[laying with my league of legends sometimes

Achromatic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:01 am Mac is for sure off, but trying to see scum mac's plan this game. Ideally as a wolf who is struggling you just make your partners look as good as possible if you die. I'm not sure if he has done that here.

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME you sometimes know things. Thoughts on Mac? Do you not find any sway in OW's vehement town read of HK knowing he is town?

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:56 am

Achromatic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:44 am @Porscha

Hi, have you seen Mac have this type of erratic reads as a wolf before? I suppose anyone can answer this but you proposed a model of 'mac would do this as wolf' so I was curious to hear what insight you might have.

I think I have arrived at Mac is struggling this game being true as either alignment, so now I am trying to figure out if this is a wolf struggling or a town struggling.

this may be surprising but I haven't seen mac wolf yet

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:04 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:42 pm I do sorta like p[laying with my league of legends sometimes

Same. Maybe I'll go do that.

Gwen mid main.

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:54 pm In the UTR tier I think I have {Neon, Jack, Wilg} fwiw. And I know some people hard townread wilg but I didnt see that atm so /shrug. Prob the last slot I would go if I plan on yeeting someone from there tho

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:14 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:54 pm In the UTR tier I think I have {Neon, Jack, Wilg} fwiw. And I know some people hard townread wilg but I didnt see that atm so /shrug. Prob the last slot I would go if I plan on yeeting someone from there tho

Time to ask a dumb question and get called a noob and than someone will ask how many games I've played of mafia

What's UTR?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:19 am I'm retiring from mafia soon. I have very waning wim. I'll try to do stuff but I've lost the spirit for it tbh.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:37 am Hi I feel calmer but still pretty annoyed.

Anything for me? Or should I just go to bed? My energy is pretty low rn.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:23 am Visor's an aussie you have to remember to turn his reads upside down

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:49 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 8:50 pmSaints won ^^

*falcons lost

Ftfy

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:07 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:04 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:42 pm I do sorta like p[laying with my league of legends sometimes

Same. Maybe I'll go do that.

Gwen mid main.

oh you're clinical

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:15 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:14 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:54 pm In the UTR tier I think I have {Neon, Jack, Wilg} fwiw. And I know some people hard townread wilg but I didnt see that atm so /shrug. Prob the last slot I would go if I plan on yeeting someone from there tho

Time to ask a dumb question and get called a noob and than someone will ask how many games I've played of mafia

What's UTR?

Under the radar

Achromatic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:15 am Under the Radar

Achromatic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:29 am Georgia has been much better for my health lol. More to do with the heat than Florida's more unusual dealings but still.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:42 am So, was tring neon for a bit and then stops at the jack vote and continues pushing neon more.

Spoiler: show

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:05 am I forgot about neon, maybe in the less confiddnce tier of towny people too. Def I should relook at someone maybe them cause I remember little from their posts

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:42 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:38 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:37 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:28 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:26 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:24 am

Can you trust me and vote with me?

I can trust your read on Ender and I will listen to your case anywhere else.

Santy is frozen. His post content is bleak. He is struggling

You are literally ignoring me. You have rrad my wolf games, do you think being frozen was something I did as wolf?
Why are you so stale on me? Like bro I feel like you are not even trying to read my posts at this point and you are just confbiasing your read which is pretty bad.

Your reads have progressed.

Your iso is bare.

You haven't tried to solve people.

You haven't attempted to scum hunt.

All you have done is "omg vote me out" "skill issue" etc when ever someone pressures you.

This isn't your town game.

HAVENT PROGRESSED. LMAO

Wait. Let me laugh some more. Okay

Like, I started with a tr on nook and hk. Then I rescinded my tr on nook, then I listened to nook case and went back to tr him and now I am voting hk. You dont see a progression there?

Or like, with Esooa too with how I came to vote them, or how I stopped tr Neon cuz the Jack vote although I was initially tr them with their entrance and approach.

You are not giving me a fair read at all and you just demostrated it btw

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:53 am Anyways rn I feel the best about voting in {hk, Esooa, Neon} while having doubts with that cause I dont think Esooa and hk are paired, but being more interested in hk reply to nook push and stuff

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:06 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:03 pm tbh that's part of how I feel about risiinq too, I'm just really meh on her and I think the one post from her about OW was good but also more on that, I don't really like reading someone so strongly off 1 post that's a more "gimmicky" read because I think doing a more gimmicky read is easier to do once rather than post well all game as a wolf, and from them I'm just not feeling that great. I wanted to talk to them more about why they wolf read me or voted me last night and @'d them, but they ignored it/didn't respond which also is weh

Tbf I think ris had more than 1 towny post. Like comparing their vibe as meh like as equal to Neon I think its like... A totally not true/fair analysis?

Also maybe you call it gimmicky but it showed attention to detail and making a narrative that as a wolf is hard to fake and also not really much of a point in putting in thread to townread someone? Idk . But its also not the only post of ris that I felt towny

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:53 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:50 pm maybe hk jack neon nanook just solves the game

I dont think nook is it either. I really vibed and see them as towny really thinking they had something condemning/iffy about hk with their relative volume tell on hk.

Tho I could def see one in Neon/Jack flipping wolf. Like when i think about it its likely that one of the slots that is going UTR is just scum

Thoughts about Esooa?

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:54 pm In the UTR tier I think I have {Neon, Jack, Wilg} fwiw. And I know some people hard townread wilg but I didnt see that atm so /shrug. Prob the last slot I would go if I plan on yeeting someone from there tho

santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:04 am Town: Lily, nanook, riisinq,Porscha
Achro, Sabi, hollowkatt, MacDougall

Sussy: Esooa, Neon, Jack

Rn Im not going to look for a prev list. But Tbh I expect to be wrong in 1 tr for sure, but thinking in probs finding who after I got a wolf flipped. I am reassessing tho, cuz My read on Essooa EoD was kinda bad, but rereading there I cant get over just the contrast difference in how they read ris and neon ig.
And maybe the analysis is wrong and maybe mac is right and hk is a hit. Or Mac is a hit. Idk. Feeling comfy voting for neon rn

Gnn

This is a majority of their neon progression past their early game town read.

It feels like something was lost in translation between 'I dropped my tr of neon over this' and 'I share that position now but I still don't tr neon.'

Achromatic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:42 am So, was tring neon for a bit and then stops at the jack vote and continues pushing neon more.

Spoiler: show

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:05 am I forgot about neon, maybe in the less confiddnce tier of towny people too. Def I should relook at someone maybe them cause I remember little from their posts

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:42 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:38 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:37 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:28 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:26 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:24 am

Can you trust me and vote with me?

I can trust your read on Ender and I will listen to your case anywhere else.

Santy is frozen. His post content is bleak. He is struggling

You are literally ignoring me. You have rrad my wolf games, do you think being frozen was something I did as wolf?
Why are you so stale on me? Like bro I feel like you are not even trying to read my posts at this point and you are just confbiasing your read which is pretty bad.

Your reads have progressed.

Your iso is bare.

You haven't tried to solve people.

You haven't attempted to scum hunt.

All you have done is "omg vote me out" "skill issue" etc when ever someone pressures you.

This isn't your town game.

HAVENT PROGRESSED. LMAO

Wait. Let me laugh some more. Okay

Like, I started with a tr on nook and hk. Then I rescinded my tr on nook, then I listened to nook case and went back to tr him and now I am voting hk. You dont see a progression there?

Or like, with Esooa too with how I came to vote them, or how I stopped tr Neon cuz the Jack vote although I was initially tr them with their entrance and approach.

You are not giving me a fair read at all and you just demostrated it btw

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:53 am Anyways rn I feel the best about voting in {hk, Esooa, Neon} while having doubts with that cause I dont think Esooa and hk are paired, but being more interested in hk reply to nook push and stuff

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:06 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:03 pm tbh that's part of how I feel about risiinq too, I'm just really meh on her and I think the one post from her about OW was good but also more on that, I don't really like reading someone so strongly off 1 post that's a more "gimmicky" read because I think doing a more gimmicky read is easier to do once rather than post well all game as a wolf, and from them I'm just not feeling that great. I wanted to talk to them more about why they wolf read me or voted me last night and @'d them, but they ignored it/didn't respond which also is weh

Tbf I think ris had more than 1 towny post. Like comparing their vibe as meh like as equal to Neon I think its like... A totally not true/fair analysis?

Also maybe you call it gimmicky but it showed attention to detail and making a narrative that as a wolf is hard to fake and also not really much of a point in putting in thread to townread someone? Idk . But its also not the only post of ris that I felt towny

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:53 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:50 pm maybe hk jack neon nanook just solves the game

I dont think nook is it either. I really vibed and see them as towny really thinking they had something condemning/iffy about hk with their relative volume tell on hk.

Tho I could def see one in Neon/Jack flipping wolf. Like when i think about it its likely that one of the slots that is going UTR is just scum

Thoughts about Esooa?

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:54 pm In the UTR tier I think I have {Neon, Jack, Wilg} fwiw. And I know some people hard townread wilg but I didnt see that atm so /shrug. Prob the last slot I would go if I plan on yeeting someone from there tho

santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:04 am Town: Lily, nanook, riisinq,Porscha
Achro, Sabi, hollowkatt, MacDougall

Sussy: Esooa, Neon, Jack

Rn Im not going to look for a prev list. But Tbh I expect to be wrong in 1 tr for sure, but thinking in probs finding who after I got a wolf flipped. I am reassessing tho, cuz My read on Essooa EoD was kinda bad, but rereading there I cant get over just the contrast difference in how they read ris and neon ig.
And maybe the analysis is wrong and maybe mac is right and hk is a hit. Or Mac is a hit. Idk. Feeling comfy voting for neon rn

Gnn

This is a majority of their neon progression past their early game town read.

It feels like something was lost in translation between 'I dropped my tr of neon over this' and 'I share that position now but I still don't tr neon.'

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:55 am

Achromatic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:42 am So, was tring neon for a bit and then stops at the jack vote and continues pushing neon more.

Spoiler: show

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:05 am I forgot about neon, maybe in the less confiddnce tier of towny people too. Def I should relook at someone maybe them cause I remember little from their posts

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:42 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:38 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:37 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:28 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:26 am

I can trust your read on Ender and I will listen to your case anywhere else.

Santy is frozen. His post content is bleak. He is struggling

You are literally ignoring me. You have rrad my wolf games, do you think being frozen was something I did as wolf?
Why are you so stale on me? Like bro I feel like you are not even trying to read my posts at this point and you are just confbiasing your read which is pretty bad.

Your reads have progressed.

Your iso is bare.

You haven't tried to solve people.

You haven't attempted to scum hunt.

All you have done is "omg vote me out" "skill issue" etc when ever someone pressures you.

This isn't your town game.

HAVENT PROGRESSED. LMAO

Wait. Let me laugh some more. Okay

Like, I started with a tr on nook and hk. Then I rescinded my tr on nook, then I listened to nook case and went back to tr him and now I am voting hk. You dont see a progression there?

Or like, with Esooa too with how I came to vote them, or how I stopped tr Neon cuz the Jack vote although I was initially tr them with their entrance and approach.

You are not giving me a fair read at all and you just demostrated it btw

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:53 am Anyways rn I feel the best about voting in {hk, Esooa, Neon} while having doubts with that cause I dont think Esooa and hk are paired, but being more interested in hk reply to nook push and stuff

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:06 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:03 pm tbh that's part of how I feel about risiinq too, I'm just really meh on her and I think the one post from her about OW was good but also more on that, I don't really like reading someone so strongly off 1 post that's a more "gimmicky" read because I think doing a more gimmicky read is easier to do once rather than post well all game as a wolf, and from them I'm just not feeling that great. I wanted to talk to them more about why they wolf read me or voted me last night and @'d them, but they ignored it/didn't respond which also is weh

Tbf I think ris had more than 1 towny post. Like comparing their vibe as meh like as equal to Neon I think its like... A totally not true/fair analysis?

Also maybe you call it gimmicky but it showed attention to detail and making a narrative that as a wolf is hard to fake and also not really much of a point in putting in thread to townread someone? Idk . But its also not the only post of ris that I felt towny

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:53 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:50 pm maybe hk jack neon nanook just solves the game

I dont think nook is it either. I really vibed and see them as towny really thinking they had something condemning/iffy about hk with their relative volume tell on hk.

Tho I could def see one in Neon/Jack flipping wolf. Like when i think about it its likely that one of the slots that is going UTR is just scum

Thoughts about Esooa?

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:54 pm In the UTR tier I think I have {Neon, Jack, Wilg} fwiw. And I know some people hard townread wilg but I didnt see that atm so /shrug. Prob the last slot I would go if I plan on yeeting someone from there tho

santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:04 am Town: Lily, nanook, riisinq,Porscha
Achro, Sabi, hollowkatt, MacDougall

Sussy: Esooa, Neon, Jack

Rn Im not going to look for a prev list. But Tbh I expect to be wrong in 1 tr for sure, but thinking in probs finding who after I got a wolf flipped. I am reassessing tho, cuz My read on Essooa EoD was kinda bad, but rereading there I cant get over just the contrast difference in how they read ris and neon ig.
And maybe the analysis is wrong and maybe mac is right and hk is a hit. Or Mac is a hit. Idk. Feeling comfy voting for neon rn

Gnn

This is a majority of their neon progression past their early game town read.

It feels like something was lost in translation between 'I dropped my tr of neon over this' and 'I share that position now but I still don't tr neon.'

I'd be interested in knowing when their read on me started shifting? I'm at work and can't read the ISO but knowing exactly how close the read progression me started going south was to the point where I was engaging them about why I thought Sabi was going in the right direction on their slot would be intresting.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:57 am I don't remember exactly when that was xD

Achromatic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:00 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:57 am I don't remember exactly when that was xD

I asked you about your vote in post 1749 which was at 9:49pm est on friday, so a little more than half way through the day.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:00 am

Achromatic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:00 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:57 am I don't remember exactly when that was xD

I asked you about your vote in post 1749 which was at 9:49pm est on friday, so a little more than half way through the day.

this is why you should try to signal vote changes in thread through lol

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:14 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:54 pm In the UTR tier I think I have {Neon, Jack, Wilg} fwiw. And I know some people hard townread wilg but I didnt see that atm so /shrug. Prob the last slot I would go if I plan on yeeting someone from there tho

Time to ask a dumb question and get called a noob and than someone will ask how many games I've played of mafia

What's UTR?

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:23 am I think Santy voting for me is weak. The case is weak the reasons are weak the progression is weak

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:28 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:14 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:54 pm In the UTR tier I think I have {Neon, Jack, Wilg} fwiw. And I know some people hard townread wilg but I didnt see that atm so /shrug. Prob the last slot I would go if I plan on yeeting someone from there tho

Time to ask a dumb question and get called a noob and than someone will ask how many games I've played of mafia

What's UTR?

someone probs answered already cuz i'm 30 posts behind but it's under the radar
I don't even know what half the acronyms mean and I forget ones that i've had explained to me before which is embarrassing so don't feel bad lol

Achromatic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:21 am @Porscha

You may have a slight bias here, but what do you think of the fact that throughout day 1 and into day 2 Santy has maintained a town read on me? In fact, reading through ctrl + fing my name I don't think Santy has said a single bad thing about me.

I need to have a good think about Santy. I don't think Sabi has presented a very accurate case against Santy themselves (ie, saying the only thing they have done is be dramatic, which isn't true), but the last thing the night kill said more or less was wanting Santy dead which adds to my tilt of the head.

Their annoyance with Sabi could for sure be CFTWR too.

Switching my vote to Santy until someone talks me out of this. The lack of paranoia about me when literally everyone else has had issues with me for one reason or another is kind of glaring on top of OW last wishes lol.