The Syndicate

I would like my vote to count for something in case the day is ended early, so I too will use FZ as a place holder.

DFARADAY

Okay, here is a very brief Day-by-day description of the events that have happened this game DF. I have left out a lot of details, so feel free to ask if you need more.




DAY 1 - Epignosis asks for a sidekick, llama pretended he didn't know who the Flash was, and craziness ensued. thellama73 is (barely) lynched, and he was Barry Allen

NIGHT 1 - You are imprisoned by Wally West. fingersplints is nightkilled by Gorilla Grodd.

DAY 2 - Bass comes in with a strange curse, and looks a bit sketchy with it. The lynch charge is led, and Bass is lynched, flipping as Double-Down.

NIGHT 2 - Epignosis is nightkilled by Captain Cold.

DAY 3.1 - Crazy. First we tried to lynch one of two players (AceofSpaces and Spacedaisy). Not only was neither lynched, but the day was restarted. The poll was never copied, so we don't even know who would have won the Day 3.1 lynch, and who may have survived. Not only this, but thellama73, was ressurected and returned to us, a confirmed Detective (Barry Allen).

DAY 3.2 - blindfaeth is lynched after a lot of heat thrown around between Roxy, timmer, Aces and Bullzeye. blindfaeth was Golden Glider.

NIGHT 3 - Dharmahelper was nightkilled by Captain Cold. Roxy was imprisoned by Wally West.

DAY 4 - AceofSpaces is finally lynched. He was Professor Zoom.

NIGHT 4 - Bullzeye is nightkilled by possibly two different parties, though neither one was revealed. It is possible that Plunder and Grodd were the kills, but the more current revelations seem to dispel these possibilities. More on that later.

DAY 5 - MovingPictures07 just replaced in, and goes nuts in the thread, making over 100 posts in the single day phase, mainly advocating for the Indy Rogues. He is subsequently lynched, but it was the result of a 7-7 tie with timmer. MovingPictures07 was Rainbow Raider.

NIGHT 5 - Night 5 was ended early by the Weather Wizard, so nobody died.

DAY 6 - There is little interest in lynching timmer after the MP lynch, so DREAM is pretty unanimously lynched. DREAM was Gorilla Grodd. DREAM's kill is revealed to be inherited by a mysterious party.

NIGHT 6 - Spacedaisy is nightkilled. The general belief of the events that occured is that the Top (the secret role) obtained Gorilla Grodd's nightkill, and attempted to use it. However, the Trickster set a trap on the Top's target, reversing the nightkill. However, one of the Top's abilities redirects nightkills, so Spacedaisy was unfortunately randomly targeted, and nightkilled.

DAY 7 - timmer and Metalmarsh89 tie for the lynch today, though Bass gained a few votes early on. Nobody is lynched, and we move on to Night.

NIGHT 7 - thellama73 is finally killed again. He was killed by a drone from Professor Zoom, but it is unclear if the drone was controlled by the dead Professor Zoom himself, or another party who may have picked an item up. - Also on this night, Wally West's kill appears to fail and possibly even backfire. Also, the Top's kill appeared to fail, as he appeared to attempt to nightkill the unnightkillable Girdir.

DAY 8 - Turnip Head is lynched today, and he was the Top.

NIGHT 8 - Nobody was killed this night, though it is unknown if the Top's kill was inherited or not. However, some craziness happened, and somebody turned off the lights, affecting the next day's lynch.

DAY 9 - Everyone is listed as a number (which they were not allowed to reveal), so after a few discussions of strategic approaches, the somewhat random #3 was chosen for the lynch. Luckily, we lynched the inactive Soneji. Unfortunately, he was Abra Kadabra.

NIGHT 9 - rabbit8 was imprisoned by Wally West. No other kill happened this night.

DAY 10 - There is more discussion to lynch timmer today, and a TON of role-hinting and discussion of these ideas going on. In the end, it was determined that one of timmer, SVS, or FZ was lying, and SVS was ultimately lynched because some decided she was the lier, possibly due to a night action error, though it is unclear. But SVS was The Trickster.

NIGHT 10 - Nobody is nightkilled, but 2 players are removed from the poll for the next day: Black Rock and timmer.

DAY 11 - There is more discussion of roles. timmer was the decided lynch choice, but he was not on the poll, so Metalmarsh89 was lynched instead, mainly because it was assumed he is unlynchable. Everyone guessed correctly, and nobody was lynched.

NIGHT 11 - timmer is imprisoned by Wally West, and DFaraday is released from jail (10 nights after he was impounded).

General role presumptions

Old Rogues

Captain Cold - Roxy (strong implications based on circumstance)
Heat Wave - ??? (presumed dead)
Mirror Master - ??? (presumed dead)
Weather Wizard - FZ. (strong implications and no opposition)
The Trickster - SVS (confirmed by lynch)
Golden Glider - blindfaeth (confirmed by lynch)

Independent Rogues

Captain Boomerang - ??? (presumed dead)
Abra Kadabra - Soneji (confirmed by lynch)
Doctor Alchemy - Bass_the_Clever (strong implications by behavior, and no opposition)
Magenta - ??? (presumed dead)
The Folded Man - ???
Rainbow Raider - MovingPictures07 (confirmed by lynch)

New Rogues

The Top - Turnip Head (confirmed by lynch)
Blacksmith - ???
Murmer - ???
Girdir - ???
Tar Pit - ???
Plunder - ??? (presumed dead)
Double-Down - Bass_the_Clever 1.0 (confirmed by lynch)

Arch-Villains

Professor Zoom - AceofSpaces (confirmed by lynch)
Zoom - ??? (presumed dead)
Gorilla Grodd - DREAM (confirmed by lynch)

The Detectives

Wally West - Sophie (strong implications, thanks to llama's resurrection and general statements and no opposition)
Pied Piper - Metalmarsh89 (strong implications, survived at least one lynch, and no opposition)
Barry Allen - thellama73 (confirmed by lynch)

Wow, MM, I have yet to read that in detail, but you rock! It has been a pleasure to play a whole game with you, no more dying early for you!

Thanks. This is actually helping me out too. I just have to be careful, because thanks to hanging out with llama, I know some things the rest of you don't. :P

Well, I would love to hear all about it. I think it's getting to a point in the game where ya gotta lay the cards on the table.

I can't infodrop though. So sorry.

But I have made cases, and defaulting to rereading players instead. You're just gonna have to take what you can get.

Now I will do a further breakdown of the roles that are unknown. There are 11 in total.

Old Rogues

Heat Wave - ??? (presumed dead)
Mirror Master - ??? (presumed dead)

Independent Rogues

Captain Boomerang - ??? (presumed dead)
Magenta - ??? (presumed dead)
The Folded Man - ???

New Rogues

Blacksmith - ???
Murmer - ???
Girdir - ???
Tar Pit - ???
Plunder - ??? (presumed dead)

Arch-Villains

Zoom - ??? (presumed dead)

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Here is a list of players that are not accounted for in the above role list. Again, there are 11 in total.

Black Rock
Bullzeye- Killed Night 4 by ?????
DFaraday - Jailed Night 1 by Wally West, Rezzed Night 11
DharmaHelper- Killed Night 3 by Captain Cold
Elohcin timmer - Jailed Night 11 by Wally West
Epignosis- Killed Night 2 by Captain Cold
fingersplints- Killed Night 1 by Gorilla Grodd
ika Devin the Omniscient
Long Con
rabbit8 - Jailed Night 9 by Wally West
Spacedaisy- Killed Night 6 by ?????


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Okay, now for a breakdown of the unknown roles, and who they could be.

Heat Wave and Mirror Master - Based on Roxy being Captain Cold, the general assumption is that Heat Wave and Mirror Master were both nightkilled before Roxy was, since Captain Cold killed twice. Thus, DFaraday, Epignosis, and fingersplints must occupy these two roles somehow. I believe fingersplints was Heat Wave, based on reading the thread (no I am not certain), meaning that one of DFaraday and Epignosis was the Mirror Master. I'm going to assume Epignosis is for the time being.

Magenta - The reason Magenta is presumed dead (by me) is because she never stopped a lynch. There is a good chance she was a relatively inactive player, or just killed off early. Honestly, the only two players I can guess are this role are either Devin (who replaced ika early on) or rabbit8. I'm going to assume rabbit was for the time being.

Captain Boomerang - I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think he's dead, and that he was DharmaHelper. timmer said he visited DH's grave, and presumably picked up an item. He also said he knew DH was an Indy Rogue, and a boomerang was used on the previous lynch. This seems like an odd move considering that timmer was the generally agreed upon lynchee the previous night. I would guess that DH was Captain Boomerang.

The Folded Man - I've got no leads on this one. Actually, I do have an idea, but I won't mention it yet.

Zoom - Okay, I'm still alive, so Zoom is probably dead at this point. But this all depends on his role and how it works.

Plunder - I have a theory as to who this is as well, but I will not mention it yet. There is a good chance he was killed early though, based on how events have panned out, and the lack of kills.

Girdir - This role is definitely still alive and out there. He cannot be nightkilled, and has not been lynched.

Blacksmith, Murmer, Tar Pit - timmer was most definitely one of these three roles, and I would sig bet on it. My best guess is that he is Murmer (based mainly on what Bass has said and done, but I could be wrong), so I will assume that for now. Regardless, he was probably a New Rogue.

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Addendum, these 6 roles:

• The Folded Man
  Zoom
  Plunder
  Girdir
  Blacksmith
  Tar Pit

Should be occupied by these 6 players:

• Black Rock
  Bullzeye
  Devin the Omniscient
  DFaraday*
  Long Con
  Spacedaisy

*I realize DFaraday is alive, but he was killed early, so I will list him as dead for the sake of this argument.




Thoughts?

No, this is really good stuff!

My conclusion is pretty rough. Please don't assume I know everything, because I definitely don't. Most of the assumptions I've made are not based on known certainty, but educated guesses, and constant readbacks. But again, they are assumptions for a reason, and were noted as such.

That said, I want to know where people agree and/or disagree.

Well, Timmer was insisting that the Captain Cold kill was unclear, and that Golden Glider's lynch was responsible for the second kill ability. So that's one possibility as well.

Wasn't his reason for that so there was an Old Rogue he claim as?

Yeah, that's right. I shouldn't let his lies get into my head.

I tell you what, some players have gone awfully quiet lately.

Long Con, where do you think you will vote today?

DFaraday is here! Hi DF. Welcome back.

I DID MY WAITING!!! TWELVE YEARS OF IT!!! IN AZKABAN!!!

Metalmarsh89 wrote:DFaraday is here! Hi DF. Welcome back.

Hi MM! Now I'm off to catch up. We didn't have TV in prison, so I couldn't keep up with current events.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 50#p148766

That link may help you out. It's a pretty brief summary, just for you!

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I tell you what, some players have gone awfully quiet lately.

Long Con, where do you think you will vote today?

I haven't decided yet, but I'm not moving it unless you take your vote off me.

Long Con wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I tell you what, some players have gone awfully quiet lately.

Long Con, where do you think you will vote today?

I haven't decided yet, but I'm not moving it unless you take your vote off me.

Herm, I supposed that's fair.

I'll placehold it on myself for now. That won't hurt anyone.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 50#p148766

That link may help you out. It's a pretty brief summary, just for you!

Thanks MM! I'm not as sure of FZ as you seem to be, though. I'll vote FZ for now, and see what people have been saying the last few pages.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I tell you what, some players have gone awfully quiet lately.

Long Con, where do you think you will vote today?

I haven't decided yet, but I'm not moving it unless you take your vote off me.

Herm, I supposed that's fair.

I'll placehold it on myself for now. That won't hurt anyone.

Hmmm... I'm still not convinced yet. You have to say sorry on behalf of your team for imprisoning DFaraday.

I'm sorry DF. We were forced to take action early after llama was lynched on Day 1.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm sorry DF. We were forced to take action early after llama was lynched on Day 1.

It's alright. For now it's a placeholder while I see if anyone else really stands out, but I am definitely leaning FZ.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm sorry DF. We were forced to take action early after llama was lynched on Day 1.

Why did you choose DF?

This thread has gone nuts. I feel like I'm missing an inside joke or something.

Long Con wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm sorry DF. We were forced to take action early after llama was lynched on Day 1.

Why did you choose DF?

I don't really remember. I know that someone suggested BR, and I put my foot down, lol. I think we picked him because he is hardly ever killed early in games, and because he voted for llama.

Black Rock wrote:This thread has gone nuts. I feel like I'm missing an inside joke or something.

Are you a New Rogue?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:This thread has gone nuts. I feel like I'm missing an inside joke or something.

Are you a New Rogue?

nope

Black Rock wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:This thread has gone nuts. I feel like I'm missing an inside joke or something.

Are you a New Rogue?

nope

Voted.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:This thread has gone nuts. I feel like I'm missing an inside joke or something.

Are you a New Rogue?

nope

Voted.

So you don't want to vote a new rogue?

Black Rock wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:This thread has gone nuts. I feel like I'm missing an inside joke or something.

Are you a New Rogue?

nope

Voted.

So you don't want to vote a new rogue?

Who should I vote for?

Probably DF, his rez is totally suspish. Plus these boys are totally copying me. I don't get the joke.

Black Rock wrote:Probably DF, his rez is totally suspish. Plus these boys are totally copying me. I don't get the joke.

You should vote for him too then.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm sorry DF. We were forced to take action early after llama was lynched on Day 1.

Why did you choose DF?

I don't really remember. I know that someone suggested BR, and I put my foot down, lol. I think we picked him because he is hardly ever killed early in games, and because he voted for llama.

I missed this and thank you. I might have lost my mind if I died night 1 again.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:Probably DF, his rez is totally suspish. Plus these boys are totally copying me. I don't get the joke.

You should vote for him too then.

I might just do that, I'm waiting for everybody to check in before I really vote.

What happened to Bass this game?

Black Rock wrote:What happened to Bass this game?

There's been a weird pattern with Bass. He did not speak on Day 8, but did on Day 9. He did not speak again on Day 10, but did again on Day 11. Then he hasn't spoken today.

Black Rock wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm sorry DF. We were forced to take action early after llama was lynched on Day 1.

Why did you choose DF?

I don't really remember. I know that someone suggested BR, and I put my foot down, lol. I think we picked him because he is hardly ever killed early in games, and because he voted for llama.

I missed this and thank you. I might have lost my mind if I died night 1 again.

But of course. I can't guarentee that every time.

Black Rock wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:Probably DF, his rez is totally suspish. Plus these boys are totally copying me. I don't get the joke.

You should vote for him too then.

I might just do that, I'm waiting for everybody to check in before I really vote.

But it's suspish. Why wait?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:What happened to Bass this game?

There's been a weird pattern with Bass. He did not speak on Day 8, but did on Day 9. He did not speak again on Day 10, but did again on Day 11. Then he hasn't spoken today.

Black Rock wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm sorry DF. We were forced to take action early after llama was lynched on Day 1.

Why did you choose DF?

I don't really remember. I know that someone suggested BR, and I put my foot down, lol. I think we picked him because he is hardly ever killed early in games, and because he voted for llama.

I missed this and thank you. I might have lost my mind if I died night 1 again.

But of course. I can't guarentee that every time.

Black Rock wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Black Rock wrote:Probably DF, his rez is totally suspish. Plus these boys are totally copying me. I don't get the joke.

You should vote for him too then.

I might just do that, I'm waiting for everybody to check in before I really vote.

But it's suspish. Why wait?

I do not think he's been silenced all those days. That would be insane. I am waiting because I like DF, we go way back and he just got rezzed. I'm letting him explain himself.

Also if you have to kill me in another game that's ok, just not day 1.

This is insane, ill check tomorrow, gotta go sleep now

Sorry for the insane posts.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Sorry for the insane posts.

She was probably talking about your vote for me. You should probably remove it, I don't like your intentions.

I can't just remove it, as I'd have to put it on someone else.

I mean, look at that pile of votes on the semi-confirmed civ. The bigger problem lies here.

Dont worry I'm still around. lol this game has been crazy. I still trying to wrap my head around some stuff.

WTF? How many baddies are left in the game that I have so many votes on me? Can anyone give me one reason for voting me?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I can't just remove it, as I'd have to put it on someone else.

I mean, look at that pile of votes on the semi-confirmed civ. The bigger problem lies here.

I don't know why they copied me

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Dont worry I'm still around. lol this game has been crazy. I still trying to wrap my head around some stuff.

Hello Bass, can I help you wrap your head around something?

FZ. wrote:WTF? How many baddies are left in the game that I have so many votes on me? Can anyone give me one reason for voting me?

I have a complete legit reason. I can't speak for the others.

BR, what's your reason again, and why do you keep it now?

MM, I looked at your lists.
I also looked at the votes that piled up on me, and I think Devin's was the most suspicious, followed by DF. But I'll give DF the benefit of the doubt.

I think he is where we should vote. He's been going with the flow the entire game and putting nothing of his own

Damn, why is Devin off the poll? I want to vote for him! Is this on purpose?

BR, can you talk about why you think Timmer was off the poll last day?

I'll move to DF for the time being. I hope people join me, because if you don't want the NR to win, keeping me alive is important