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Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:05 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Not a single player has opposed a Soneji lynch at any juncture of this day other than Soneji himself, while we're worrying about the development of wagons.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:05 pm
by Fredwood
Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:These votes have all swung very easily against Long Con.
The case is about a role related discrepancy. Do you think there's a lot of room for doubt?
A role discrepancy that has existed all day.
Quin and Soenji's votes I get, they're likely axed if they don't team up to vote out the other guy. The other players willingness to follow is a bit huh?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:05 pm
by Scotty
speedchuck wrote:Would prefer Soneji lynch to Long Con lynch. Happy where I am. You guys can get the three votes to lynch LC without me. :beer:

I don't like how quickly the LC lynch is building at all, but...
I have homework to do right this second. I'll keep up, if dire questions must be asked.

By all means, do join me on Soneji in the next hour and have a beer with me, though. It's a much more fun lynch than Long Con.
So I'm not defending Long Con here but I want to point out that if LC is lynched and comes up bad, this is the same fucking post you made defending Mm when he got lynched.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:06 pm
by Sloonei
I am still in favor of lynching Long Con. I just wanted to note the swiftness of his bandwagon.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:06 pm
by Tangrowth
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Okay, I'm here. Will be so off and on until the deadline.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Long Con wrote:Maybe sending an item isn't counted as "targeting" like protecting, killing, blocking, etc?
I highly doubt this.
Well, there's one easy way to find out, Sloon my man! *hold arms out wide* I wouldn't advise it though, I am Civ.
I've decided I hate this post's guts.
What don't you like about it?
It looks more like a challenge than an earnest plea, and I don't think that's how LC intended it.
Does your view of this influence your view of Sloonei?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:07 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
MovingPictures07 wrote:Does your view of this influence your view of Sloonei?
No. Should it?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:07 pm
by Quin
Fredwood wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:These votes have all swung very easily against Long Con.
The case is about a role related discrepancy. Do you think there's a lot of room for doubt?
A role discrepancy that has existed all day.
Quin and Soenji's votes I get, they're likely axed if they don't team up to vote out the other guy. The other players willingness to follow is a bit huh?
Is the case against Long Con a bit huh?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:07 pm
by juliets
Fredwood wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:These votes have all swung very easily against Long Con.
The case is about a role related discrepancy. Do you think there's a lot of room for doubt?
A role discrepancy that has existed all day.
Quin and Soenji's votes I get, they're likely axed if they don't team up to vote out the other guy. The other players willingness to follow is a bit huh?
I'm just having a crisis of confidence on the Quin issue and the point about Jay targeting LC and seeing nothing was what compelled me to change my vote.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:08 pm
by Scotty
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Not a single player has opposed a Soneji lynch at any juncture of this day other than Soneji himself, while we're worrying about the development of wagons.
Soneji is the easiest target to bus because he's been so absent. I don't think that his wagon being easy is a bad sign.

LC being so thrown about by everyone at the end here reeks. The only real person I see opposing it is speed. I'm only partially opposing it, (calling kettle black) but ya know I don't know shit

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:08 pm
by Tangrowth
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Does your view of this influence your view of Sloonei?
No. Should it?
I don't think so. I just was curious because the post that you're focusing on is a direct response to Sloonei's inquiry.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:09 pm
by Tangrowth
Do I understand this correctly in that the reason to lynch LC from many of his voters has something to do with this gun claim thing?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:09 pm
by Sloonei
MovingPictures07 wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Okay, I'm here. Will be so off and on until the deadline.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Long Con wrote:Maybe sending an item isn't counted as "targeting" like protecting, killing, blocking, etc?
I highly doubt this.
Well, there's one easy way to find out, Sloon my man! *hold arms out wide* I wouldn't advise it though, I am Civ.
I've decided I hate this post's guts.
What don't you like about it?
It looks more like a challenge than an earnest plea, and I don't think that's how LC intended it.
Does your view of this influence your view of Sloonei?
Sloonei is town as hell.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:09 pm
by Soneji
speedchuck wrote:Would prefer Soneji lynch to Long Con lynch. Happy where I am. You guys can get the three votes to lynch LC without me. :beer:

I don't like how quickly the LC lynch is building at all, but...
I have homework to do right this second. I'll keep up, if dire questions must be asked.

By all means, do join me on Soneji in the next hour and have a beer with me, though. It's a much more fun lynch than Long Con.
What makes it better for you? Is it the Slooneji?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Not a single player has opposed a Soneji lynch at any juncture of this day other than Soneji himself, while we're worrying about the development of wagons.
Fredwood wrote:
speedchuck wrote:Would prefer Soneji lynch to Long Con lynch. Happy where I am. You guys can get the three votes to lynch LC without me. :beer:

I don't like how quickly the LC lynch is building at all, but...
I have homework to do right this second. I'll keep up, if dire questions must be asked.

By all means, do join me on Soneji in the next hour and have a beer with me, though. It's a much more fun lynch than Long Con.
Basically we're deciding between, how does LC's power work, is there redundant power roles, or who even likes Soneji anyway.
:stare:

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:09 pm
by Dyslexicon
I have to sleep. Good luck. I'm going to stay on Long Con. Hope it's right.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:10 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Just going to say: I don't care about how the wagons are developing now or earlier than now. I care about the cases against the suspects.

I see Long Con being a suspicious player with night action discrepancies to boot.

I see Soneji being a suspicious player without night action discrepancies to boot.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:12 pm
by Long Con
Whoa, hey! Don't lynch me!

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:12 pm
by Scotty
If LC is lynched and comes back bad, this probably doesn't look great for me. :scared:

Linki @JJJ: shoulda shot Soneji and decided whether or not lynch Quin/Jack. Can't do anything about that Joe, but I know I didn't learn anything from jack being good

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:13 pm
by Scotty
Long Con wrote:Whoa, hey! Don't lynch me!
What did you claim today again?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:13 pm
by Long Con
How about giving me a chance to prove myself tonight instead?

Linki: I claimed I gave a gun to Sloonei on Night 2.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:14 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Long Con wrote:How about giving me a chance to prove myself tonight instead?

Linki: I claimed I gave a gun to Sloonei on Night 2.
This game is roleblock city. No. Why are you a civilian?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:14 pm
by Long Con
Sorry for just getting here, but I worked tonight.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:14 pm
by Long Con
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Long Con wrote:How about giving me a chance to prove myself tonight instead?

Linki: I claimed I gave a gun to Sloonei on Night 2.
This game is roleblock city. No. Why are you a civilian?
:shrug: Ok. I'm Civ because I helped lynch Marmot?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:15 pm
by Long Con
Like, what baddies have YOU lynched? :evileye:

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:15 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Long Con wrote:Like, what baddies have YOU lynched? :evileye:
Are you asking me that?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:16 pm
by Golden
speedchuck wrote:
Golden wrote:@speed - what bothers you mechanically about my claim?
Watching every night.

Pretty much every other town role has been limited in some way. For you to claim just watcher (which came up before the trend of limited power was fully apparent) gives me balance issues that I discussed earlier with JJJ. I am sure that you are a watcher, but I'm worried that it might be a mafia watcher because of the power imbalance. Call it paranoia, as I'm still relying on my read over mech stuff.
I thought that would be what it was.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:16 pm
by speedchuck
Scotty wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Not a single player has opposed a Soneji lynch at any juncture of this day other than Soneji himself, while we're worrying about the development of wagons.
Soneji is the easiest target to bus because he's been so absent. I don't think that his wagon being easy is a bad sign.

LC being so thrown about by everyone at the end here reeks. The only real person I see opposing it is speed. I'm only partially opposing it, (calling kettle black) but ya know I don't know shit
Yeah, and this is what scares me.

The case against LC isn't bad, but it's based in mechanics that are incomplete.

Meanwhile, every player immediately jumped on it and that scares me.

I know I may look bad for it, but I'm not needed to secure a lynch this time, and my gut feels bad about LC's wagon build.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:16 pm
by Tangrowth
Long Con wrote:Like, what baddies have YOU lynched? :evileye:
This is suspicious at face value.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:17 pm
by Tangrowth
Vote Long Con

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:17 pm
by Long Con
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Long Con wrote:Like, what baddies have YOU lynched? :evileye:
This is suspicious at face value.
Thanks, new guy.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:17 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Long Con wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Long Con wrote:Like, what baddies have YOU lynched? :evileye:
This is suspicious at face value.
Thanks, new guy.
No. You don't throw shade at the confirmed townie and then ignore him. Answer me.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:18 pm
by speedchuck
Also, it looks like LC might be an even night something as his claim. We could always lynch him tomorrow if anyone wants to test that.

Those are all of the arguments I have for lynching Soneji over LC, I think.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:19 pm
by Long Con
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Long Con wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Long Con wrote:Like, what baddies have YOU lynched? :evileye:
This is suspicious at face value.
Thanks, new guy.
No. You don't throw shade at the confirmed townie and then ignore him. Answer me.
Bite me. You don't want to let me prove it, then lynch away, Confirmed Townie.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:19 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Long Con wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Long Con wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Long Con wrote:Like, what baddies have YOU lynched? :evileye:
This is suspicious at face value.
Thanks, new guy.
No. You don't throw shade at the confirmed townie and then ignore him. Answer me.
Bite me. You don't want to let me prove it, then lynch away, Confirmed Townie.
I just told you why that doesn't work. Why do you think it will help?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:19 pm
by juliets
speedchuck wrote:Also, it looks like LC might be an even night something as his claim. We could always lynch him tomorrow if anyone wants to test that.

Those are all of the arguments I have for lynching Soneji over LC, I think.
This is something I hadn't thought about.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:20 pm
by Long Con
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Long Con wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Long Con wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Long Con wrote:Like, what baddies have YOU lynched? :evileye:
This is suspicious at face value.
Thanks, new guy.
No. You don't throw shade at the confirmed townie and then ignore him. Answer me.
Bite me. You don't want to let me prove it, then lynch away, Confirmed Townie.
I just told you why that doesn't work. Why do you think it will help?
Oh, so you're a roleblocker too now?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:20 pm
by Long Con
speedchuck wrote:Also, it looks like LC might be an even night something as his claim. We could always lynch him tomorrow if anyone wants to test that.

Those are all of the arguments I have for lynching Soneji over LC, I think.
Nah, I MIGHT get roleblocked, so not worth it.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:20 pm
by Soneji
Long Con wrote:Like, what baddies have YOU lynched? :evileye:
Long Con wrote:
Dyslexicon wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:VOTE LYNCH DYSLEXICON
I appreciate this. :p

Such RAWR.
Was probably not going to stick with my vote anyway, and I think this comes off more genuine than not.
One question though: Did you go through my whole ISO, as in, did you read every post?

Lynch LC

^If I'm to stick with early meta gut similar to my Sig gut.
And you can look forward to similar results. Perhaps the Sig results pleased you?

Image
:ponder: :ponder: :ponder: :ponder: :ponder: :ponder: :ponder:

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:21 pm
by Golden
Ugh, another unexpected meeting :(

I see a bandwagon has formed on LC. I don't think that's the right way to go.

I'll vote for soneji over LC if that's what it's coming down too. Has everyone but me moved away from Quin? Will have to look and see what others have said about our engagement earlier. I really don't like it one bit.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:21 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Long Con wrote:Oh, so you're a roleblocker too now?
What? Instead of adopting this snarky bullshit attitude, how about you do your job if you're a civilian. I haven't voted for you. I'm trying to figure you out. Get over it and help me do that.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:21 pm
by Tangrowth
Golden wrote:Ugh, another unexpected meeting :(

I see a bandwagon has formed on LC. I don't think that's the right way to go.

I'll vote for soneji over LC if that's what it's coming down too.
Has everyone but me moved away from Quin? Will have to look and see what others have said about our engagement earlier. I really don't like it one bit.
Why?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:22 pm
by Golden
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I'll be back in about 30 minutes. I'm always watching though. :noble:
Lies! I'm the watcher.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:22 pm
by Long Con
Soneji wrote:
Long Con wrote:Like, what baddies have YOU lynched? :evileye:
Long Con wrote:
Dyslexicon wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:VOTE LYNCH DYSLEXICON
I appreciate this. :p

Such RAWR.
Was probably not going to stick with my vote anyway, and I think this comes off more genuine than not.
One question though: Did you go through my whole ISO, as in, did you read every post?

Lynch LC

^If I'm to stick with early meta gut similar to my Sig gut.
And you can look forward to similar results. Perhaps the Sig results pleased you?

Image
:ponder: :ponder: :ponder: :ponder: :ponder: :ponder: :ponder:
GREAT POINT SONEJI

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:22 pm
by sprityo
It's that time of the Evening Again!

VOTALS:

Soneji (3): speedchuck, Sloonei, Scotty,
Quin (2): Golden, Strawhenge,
Long Con (5): Quin, Soneji, juliets, Dyslexicon, MP


With 13 Alive it takes 7 to Lynch, 3 to Soft Lynch

Day ends in 38 minutes

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:22 pm
by Long Con
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Golden wrote:Ugh, another unexpected meeting :(

I see a bandwagon has formed on LC. I don't think that's the right way to go.

I'll vote for soneji over LC if that's what it's coming down too.
Has everyone but me moved away from Quin? Will have to look and see what others have said about our engagement earlier. I really don't like it one bit.
Why?
Elohcin was way cooler.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:23 pm
by Tangrowth
Long Con wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Golden wrote:Ugh, another unexpected meeting :(

I see a bandwagon has formed on LC. I don't think that's the right way to go.

I'll vote for soneji over LC if that's what it's coming down too.
Has everyone but me moved away from Quin? Will have to look and see what others have said about our engagement earlier. I really don't like it one bit.
Why?
Elohcin was way cooler.
:sigh:

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:24 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
vote Soneji

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:24 pm
by Soneji
Long Con wrote:
Soneji wrote:
Long Con wrote:Like, what baddies have YOU lynched? :evileye:
Long Con wrote:
Dyslexicon wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:VOTE LYNCH DYSLEXICON
I appreciate this. :p

Such RAWR.
Was probably not going to stick with my vote anyway, and I think this comes off more genuine than not.
One question though: Did you go through my whole ISO, as in, did you read every post?

Lynch LC

^If I'm to stick with early meta gut similar to my Sig gut.
And you can look forward to similar results. Perhaps the Sig results pleased you?

Image
:ponder: :ponder: :ponder: :ponder: :ponder: :ponder: :ponder:
GREAT POINT SONEJI
It shows a history of using others lack of success at lynching mafia as a means to try and deflect suspicion.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:24 pm
by Tangrowth
I'm willing to reconsider. I don't have any reads worth a damn. Convince me, LC. Were you instrumental in getting MM lynched?

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:25 pm
by Tangrowth
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:vote Soneji
Walk me through this like I know nothing.

Because I pretty much do know nothing.

Re: Phenon Mafia: Day 4 - Too Slow

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:25 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
MovingPictures07 wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:vote Soneji
Walk me through this like I know nothing.

Because I pretty much do know nothing.
Don't have time. Make your reads at face value based upon what you can see.