Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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No, that's why I'm asking instead of campaigning.colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:22 pm Also do you really think jack would mod-confirm 2/5 mafia?
We are! Votes must be cast in the thread, preferably using the handyspeedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:48 pm Wait, this is a day phase! Why aren't we lynching anyone?!
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[vote][/vote]Lol. I reject this out of hand. It's simply not possible that you think I'm more scummy than Quin. Try againgwilikers6 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:05 pm 85% gut reads. Can't be bothered to write up cases on anyone or do any more reading. Doesn't help me much at all.
gwilikers6
dunya
TonyStarkPrime
colonialbob
Dr. White
Epignosis
Kenway
Kylemii
Long Con
MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay
lapluie
ColinIsCool
Quin
Dragon D. Luffy
sprityo
sig
rundontwalk
nutella
Marmot
Kites
Iron_Dwarf
DrWilgy
anyway going by the time of the night post the deadline is tonight at 9:52 PST/11:52 CST/12:52 ESTwhy? do you have a case?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:32 pm Guys. I promise you that Flagon G Puffy is mafia. Someone vote for him so that I can plz.
Fuck yeah I do.nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:33 pmwhy? do you have a case?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:32 pm Guys. I promise you that Flagon G Puffy is mafia. Someone vote for him so that I can plz.
Damn you're his teammate.rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:36 pm You would say you know Dragon is scum @MacDougall ? And that if you are wrong you have to die? And if you're right you still might have to die in case you're sacrificing scummate?
I'm still waiting to hear it.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:34 pmFuck yeah I do.nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:33 pmwhy? do you have a case?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:32 pm Guys. I promise you that Flagon G Puffy is mafia. Someone vote for him so that I can plz.
I am if he's town. My concern is you're doing what I would do and sacrificing scummate for town points. Are you?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:38 pmDamn you're his teammate.rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:36 pm You would say you know Dragon is scum @MacDougall ? And that if you are wrong you have to die? And if you're right you still might have to die in case you're sacrificing scummate?
Because assumption will be he is town. Every single time I'm scum I sacrifice a scum mate when convenient for me.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:44 pm Why would Mac sacrifice a scummate who currently has zero votes?
That is the crappiest reason for a vote I've heard all day.
Skyler my son. You have gone from green to orange skittle in the span of 4 posts. Good work.rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:46 pm If Mac is scum I want that to be in back of his mind that I'll still be watching
Seems like he's either town who knows Luffy is scum it alternatively he's always known Luffy is scum. I am not dumb and won't discount latter possibility. Mac would be kind of guy to go ballstothewall like that, he is my father
... you've been drinking haven't you Skyler.rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:52 pmSeems like he's either town who knows Luffy is scum it alternatively he's always known Luffy is scum. I am not dumb and won't discount latter possibility. Mac would be kind of guy to go ballstothewall like that, he is my father
Why do I feel like you have suspected me early in every game we have played together?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:45 pm So basically Luffy was looking decent until these b2b posts. Forgive the phone post.
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 95#p410695
First post I smelled a rat. Voting for a guy who I can see is getting votes but has not been central to the discourse. A weak candidate if you will. His explanation for his vote doesn't feel genuine. The kicker to me is that he is voting because he apparently has no better scum reads. In this game i find that very hard to believe. Easier for me to believe that he is choosing to distance the very scummy day 1 candidates. It also reads like buddying nutella which is strange. This could indicate tmi on nutella and she is civ. The way he reads her looks like a mafia civ reading a civ to me.
Then the next post he makes drives it home. Jay's hot new scum tell in full display. The best part is I can see that he did this to immediately distract from how bad the post before it was. He just fired a scattergun reads post out to decrease the chance of people looking at the one before it.
He is the bad man.
Yes please.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:53 pmWhy do I feel like you have suspected me early in every game we have played together?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:45 pm So basically Luffy was looking decent until these b2b posts. Forgive the phone post.
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 95#p410695
First post I smelled a rat. Voting for a guy who I can see is getting votes but has not been central to the discourse. A weak candidate if you will. His explanation for his vote doesn't feel genuine. The kicker to me is that he is voting because he apparently has no better scum reads. In this game i find that very hard to believe. Easier for me to believe that he is choosing to distance the very scummy day 1 candidates. It also reads like buddying nutella which is strange. This could indicate tmi on nutella and she is civ. The way he reads her looks like a mafia civ reading a civ to me.
Then the next post he makes drives it home. Jay's hot new scum tell in full display. The best part is I can see that he did this to immediately distract from how bad the post before it was. He just fired a scattergun reads post out to decrease the chance of people looking at the one before it.
He is the bad man.
Anyway, you make a bunch of assumptions about what you want the ideal civ play to be and think I'm bad because I don't follow them, which is a faulty premise.
No, I have no decent scum reads. Yes there are a bunch of people I'm mildly paranoid about, but I don't think I'm this good of a scumhunter to go around labeling them bad and sticking to it. I used to do that when I first joined this site and lost about 8 consecutive games as civ. So now I have a taboo against tunneling and being too sure about scum reads. I'd rather be rational and analyse people carefully, and I think it's easier to name civ reads and do a PoE instead.
I'm not buddying Nutella, I'm explicitely saying I think Nutella is civ, and I also agree with her post. Just because you are a lone wolf doesn't mean I have to be too.
And what is wrong with scattergun reads? You people post rainbow lists. I like to post those instead. Do you want me to link 5-6 examples of games where I was civ and did the same thing?
Hmm this is actually pretty compelling. Those posts look pretty bad -- the second one is pure waffle saladMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:45 pm So basically Luffy was looking decent until these b2b posts. Forgive the phone post.
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 95#p410695
First post I smelled a rat. Voting for a guy who I can see is getting votes but has not been central to the discourse. A weak candidate if you will. His explanation for his vote doesn't feel genuine. The kicker to me is that he is voting because he apparently has no better scum reads. In this game i find that very hard to believe. Easier for me to believe that he is choosing to distance the very scummy day 1 candidates. It also reads like buddying nutella which is strange. This could indicate tmi on nutella and she is civ. The way he reads her looks like a mafia civ reading a civ to me.
Then the next post he makes drives it home. Jay's hot new scum tell in full display. The best part is I can see that he did this to immediately distract from how bad the post before it was. He just fired a scattergun reads post out to decrease the chance of people looking at the one before it.
He is the bad man.
For me it seems like he has an overconfident playstyle and likes to assume all his reads are always correct. Which is fine, some people play that way.rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:52 pmSeems like he's either town who knows Luffy is scum it alternatively he's always known Luffy is scum. I am not dumb and won't discount latter possibility. Mac would be kind of guy to go ballstothewall like that, he is my father
Playing the man again.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:56 pmFor me it seems like he has an overconfident playstyle and likes to assume all his reads are always correct. Which is fine, some people play that way.rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:52 pmSeems like he's either town who knows Luffy is scum it alternatively he's always known Luffy is scum. I am not dumb and won't discount latter possibility. Mac would be kind of guy to go ballstothewall like that, he is my father
I just don't anymore.
I'm not a native English speaker so I don't get this expression. Explain?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:57 pmPlaying the man again.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:56 pmFor me it seems like he has an overconfident playstyle and likes to assume all his reads are always correct. Which is fine, some people play that way.rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:52 pmSeems like he's either town who knows Luffy is scum it alternatively he's always known Luffy is scum. I am not dumb and won't discount latter possibility. Mac would be kind of guy to go ballstothewall like that, he is my father
I just don't anymore.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:02 am Took a quick review of EoD3:
- Nutella and Eoi look great
- Speedchuck looks off for jumping on Wilgy to save himself nstead of Jay. Could see a Jay/Speed team-up.
- Bob looks Eh. He dropped out of the Jay thing when people started doing t, but jumped in again when they started coming bck. Jack looks similar to Bob in that regard.
- Eloh looks bad too.
- Sloonei looks awful. I bet he has the worst vote tracking out of anyone this game. The way he kept doing 180º turns on Jay, and those turns matched the flow of the thread is pingy as fuck, and also looks artificial. I'm only second doubting it because it threads close to "so bad it's good" territory, I actually doubt a true bad Sloonei would goof that hard. The Night 3 lynch feels similar too.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:10 am If Wilgy is a civ, Gman and Never look terrible from the last lynch.
I want to lynch Never.
Also holy shit Gengar. Mafia surely has been feeding each other powers.
Civ in all three games.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:57 pm Let's do the thing I proposed myself:
Wilgy: the guy seems to be playing similarly to how MM does. Which is really weird. He asked some useful questions in the game, and shows some mild interest in hunting baddies, but his methods are questionable. I don't get his exercise, it looks like an attempt of spotting protagonists, and honestly I think we should avoid that. I guess that's a neutral read.
FZ: I liked her way of playing until now, she has been agressive yet considering all options. Not much to say other than a civ read.
kneel4justice: similar to FZ, but with a bigger post volume. His posts are huge, he talks about everyone, he seems to be changing his opinions a lot. Also he voted Enrique but I haven't seen him talking about Enrique a lot in this day 2? Do you still read him as mafia? Anyway, he is playing the kind of game a baddie could hide behind, but that's a longshot. For now, slight civ read.
Metalmarsh: Between him and WIlgy, I think Wilgy is being the more productive one. MM has said barely nothing useful. But he looks suspicious every single game. That said, I've seen him make some productive posts before, and his last few seem to be an attempt at that. I need to see more. Neutral read for now.
No, I think I'm talking to a civ. I can understand where you're coming from, because I've played with civ you before, and with people who acted like you while scumhunting. I've also played with bad you, and I remember calling you bad 2 days before everyone else did because I noticed you were much less aggressive than usual. You are not that hard to read.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:02 pm Note the way he is talking to me is exposing that he knows he is talking to a civilian.
Playing the man is a poker term. It means rather than playing the game you are just playing the player without looking at your cards. In this case I am using it to describe the way your immediate intention is to fully discredit me rather than the points I raised. You did address them but your first agenda was to make me look bad.
rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:45 pmBecause assumption will be he is town. Every single time I'm scum I sacrifice a scum mate when convenient for me.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:44 pm Why would Mac sacrifice a scummate who currently has zero votes?
First one is an analysis of an end of day specifically. The second one doesn't count at all. Third one, what is the exercise you are talking about?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:09 pmDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:02 am Took a quick review of EoD3:
- Nutella and Eoi look great
- Speedchuck looks off for jumping on Wilgy to save himself nstead of Jay. Could see a Jay/Speed team-up.
- Bob looks Eh. He dropped out of the Jay thing when people started doing t, but jumped in again when they started coming bck. Jack looks similar to Bob in that regard.
- Eloh looks bad too.
- Sloonei looks awful. I bet he has the worst vote tracking out of anyone this game. The way he kept doing 180º turns on Jay, and those turns matched the flow of the thread is pingy as fuck, and also looks artificial. I'm only second doubting it because it threads close to "so bad it's good" territory, I actually doubt a true bad Sloonei would goof that hard. The Night 3 lynch feels similar too.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:10 am If Wilgy is a civ, Gman and Never look terrible from the last lynch.
I want to lynch Never.
Also holy shit Gengar. Mafia surely has been feeding each other powers.Civ in all three games.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:57 pm Let's do the thing I proposed myself:
Wilgy: the guy seems to be playing similarly to how MM does. Which is really weird. He asked some useful questions in the game, and shows some mild interest in hunting baddies, but his methods are questionable. I don't get his exercise, it looks like an attempt of spotting protagonists, and honestly I think we should avoid that. I guess that's a neutral read.
FZ: I liked her way of playing until now, she has been agressive yet considering all options. Not much to say other than a civ read.
kneel4justice: similar to FZ, but with a bigger post volume. His posts are huge, he talks about everyone, he seems to be changing his opinions a lot. Also he voted Enrique but I haven't seen him talking about Enrique a lot in this day 2? Do you still read him as mafia? Anyway, he is playing the kind of game a baddie could hide behind, but that's a longshot. For now, slight civ read.
Metalmarsh: Between him and WIlgy, I think Wilgy is being the more productive one. MM has said barely nothing useful. But he looks suspicious every single game. That said, I've seen him make some productive posts before, and his last few seem to be an attempt at that. I need to see more. Neutral read for now.
I hope you enjoy your salad.