The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:53 am**

Maple wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:52 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:49 am @MacDougall how are we supposed to be voting for 2 eliminations when we are forced to sit on Poison or Hank by default?
You have 2 votes

yeah but I am forced to vote in between the tunnel - so that leaves me with one actual vote outside of the thunder dome ; should've been 2

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:53 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:25 am
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:45 am hi, I'm up. I never had a game where an actual thunderdome is taking place. what are we supposed to do in this situation?
liar liar - you participated in one with this exact role ; anni 2020 on mu :P

the quotes thing messes me up. i got 0 memories of this.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:54 am**

[mention]colonialbob[/mention]

How's life, broseph?

Point me towards the thingies I should use to find scum. Including the page where itas actually start.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:55 am**

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:31 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:25 am
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:45 am hi, I'm up. I never had a game where an actual thunderdome is taking place. what are we supposed to do in this situation?
liar liar - you participated in one with this exact role ; anni 2020 on mu :P
I didn't see where Hank got all that detailed about how it works so "this exact role" could be overstating it?

I specced Anni but not really closely. Do you remember who had this role so I can go look for their flip?

Congrats on Uni btw and I apologize for any excess aggro yesterday.

idk who did. im still confused on the actual role. idk who the 2 plsyers were.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:56 am**

Daisy -

Hank claimed a role that makes him gladiate / duel another person.

Basically, the one that has the most votes at EoD between Hank and whoever he chose - dies at EoD.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:56 am**

this poll vote thing is not very useful when half the players voting on it are dead

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:57 am**

>74 pages

LOL

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:57 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:53 am
Maple wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:52 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:49 am @MacDougall how are we supposed to be voting for 2 eliminations when we are forced to sit on Poison or Hank by default?
You have 2 votes
yeah but I am forced to vote in between the tunnel - so that leaves me with one actual vote outside of the thunder dome ; should've been 2

I don't think we are forced to vote there. Seemed to me like just whichever has more votes between them gets chopped even if they are both minor wagons. If you have two stronger desires it looks like you can vote them.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:58 am**

Yeah but I actually have to stay on Hank because people are voting Poison, which is ridiculous.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:59 am**

I think ted is saying forced by gamestate, not by mechanics

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:00 am**

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:38 am
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:09 am
jumpluff wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:49 am I wouldn't be surprised if this thunderdome is v/v, unfortunately. Might come down to picking between claims, and Hank presumably just used his role. I did just get trolled by a wolf-aligned reusable strongmanning gladiator-vig, but so did Mac.

Poison obviously a really unlucky pick.
Unfortunately, v/v is possible, but I think w/v is probable. Hank's role has to be forcing, and he had to pick somebody. Obviously, he wants to pick someone he can beat.

Having no way to know vote counts at the time he threw down, but knowing what the count was when I went to bed after ITAs and what it is now...why not pick Ephemeral? Even as a low poster just looking at the poll should have pointed to Ephemeral as the easiest win.

Two theories:
1) Role does not allow him to pick the top wagon, or someone already over X votes, something like that
2) Ephemeral and Hank are both wolves

So with Ephemeral off the table Poison gets chosen because Hank thinks he can win

There is a case to be made against Poison. She has votes on already so he has a head start. Whether he is a villager or a wolf she is a choice that makes sense...but he is not making the available case.

Why not @Hank ? Why pick an opponent that looks beatable, but then not work to win? Can you explain that, and more about your role?
this guy is mafia LOL
probably with poison chan
like jesus christ what a terrible post

The fact that you could even think me and tim are scum together made me laugh for 1 minute. Highlight of my day.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:01 am**

Damn it more gladiators

If they live 3 days and chop mostly wolves I'm snapvoting

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:01 am**

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:51 am
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:43 am
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:38 am
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:09 am
jumpluff wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:49 am I wouldn't be surprised if this thunderdome is v/v, unfortunately. Might come down to picking between claims, and Hank presumably just used his role. I did just get trolled by a wolf-aligned reusable strongmanning gladiator-vig, but so did Mac.

Poison obviously a really unlucky pick.
Unfortunately, v/v is possible, but I think w/v is probable. Hank's role has to be forcing, and he had to pick somebody. Obviously, he wants to pick someone he can beat.

Having no way to know vote counts at the time he threw down, but knowing what the count was when I went to bed after ITAs and what it is now...why not pick Ephemeral? Even as a low poster just looking at the poll should have pointed to Ephemeral as the easiest win.

Two theories:
1) Role does not allow him to pick the top wagon, or someone already over X votes, something like that
2) Ephemeral and Hank are both wolves

So with Ephemeral off the table Poison gets chosen because Hank thinks he can win

There is a case to be made against Poison. She has votes on already so he has a head start. Whether he is a villager or a wolf she is a choice that makes sense...but he is not making the available case.

Why not @Hank ? Why pick an opponent that looks beatable, but then not work to win? Can you explain that, and more about your role?
this guy is mafia LOL
probably with poison chan
like jesus christ what a terrible post
Whiner
Saying someone is scummy based on the assumption that another player is scum? Check.
Saying someone is scummy for not using their role in a way you'd prefer? Check.
Tonally accusing hank without actually calling him a wolf? Check.
Hedging by saying it could be v/v? Check.

yes, this is a terrible post.

LOL...yeah, not seeing all that in there.

Yes, you still seem to be whining.

That's okay though.

Do you have any opinion on the matter, or do you just want to talk about my opinion instead?

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:01 am**

Apogee wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:01 am Damn it more gladiators

If they live 3 days and chop mostly wolves I'm snapvoting

I was the designated clean up for the mafia gladiators but hosts gave me water guns instead of actual bullets

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:02 am**

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:01 am LOL...yeah, not seeing all that in there.

Yes, you still seem to be whining.

That's okay though.

Do you have any opinion on the matter, or do you just want to talk about my opinion instead?

do you always respond to accusations by degrading the accuser, or only when you're mafia?

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:03 am**

hank is probably town but will be executed anyway, idc, not wasting a vote there.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:05 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:58 am Yeah but I actually have to stay on Hank because people are voting Poison, which is ridiculous.

Ah. Yeah, I did my part there by bailing out, but I see your point. I haven't got any really great place to put the vote I took off Poison.

Suggestions?

If nothing really appeals to me I might take your place on the Hank wagon so you can go do something else.

In any event it's a long way to EoD so something will probably work out here.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:05 am**

[mention]nutella[/mention] finalized and revised list of players from best to worst name for a rabbit

DaisyCloud
Jumpluff
Maple
DrWilgy
AWESOME-O
Hank (probably named after Hank Hill)
TonyStarkPrime
Adam_ (the underscore is silent and a good way to make sure his mail doesn't get mixed up with other rabbit mail)
iwan
cayvie
colonialbob
nutella
Relm
Hyena
Poison Chan
Rej
Shizune
Logic
Sloonei
beeboy
Sprityo
sabie12
Funnygurl555 (stop adding numbers to your rabbit names)
MartinGG99
Motel Room (probably named by a kid whose family is on the run a mafia hitman or something)
polypies73
Exalt
Apogee
Ephemeral
tedxtr (ignore obviously omitted E's on rabbit birth certificate)
DDL
ColinIsCool ("Colin" is a decent rabbit name)
speedchuck
hollowkatt
Long Con
Marcher Jovian
iaafr
Timsup2nothin
112 (acceptable if you own at least 112 rabbits but even then, pretty uncreative)
sheepsaysmeep
PunchyTheCat
Jackofhearts2005
Justplayinitcool (probably shortened to "Justin" but still pretty embarassing to tell people your rabbit's full name)
TrustworthyLiberal (implies most liberals are not trustworthy and rabbits should not have passive aggressive names)

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:06 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:58 am Yeah but I actually have to stay on Hank because people are voting Poison, which is ridiculous.

iaafr and Hank are the only ones voting there... Exalt is dead.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:06 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:58 am Yeah but I actually have to stay on Hank because people are voting Poison, which is ridiculous.

Ted town reading me like this makes me wanna cry.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:07 am**

I left off like 6 rabbits this game is really large.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:07 am**

Fine. I'll go find itas myself.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:08 am**

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:06 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:58 am Yeah but I actually have to stay on Hank because people are voting Poison, which is ridiculous.
Ted town reading me like this makes me wanna cry.

like you'd be a tough read lmfao

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:08 am**

if you're scum i'd eat my toe

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:09 am**

oh wait why are there dead people still voting in the poll then?

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:09 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:08 am
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:06 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:58 am Yeah but I actually have to stay on Hank because people are voting Poison, which is ridiculous.
Ted town reading me like this makes me wanna cry.
like you'd be a tough read lmfao

Yo I'm sad that I have to agree with this.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:09 am**

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] you forgot meeee

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:11 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:16 am Jackofhearts2005 quick rank playerlist by quality of rabbit name

jumpluff best obv

This is really stupid but given this comes after a picture of Jumpluff's rabbit, I'm going to say that Jumpluff+Nutella likely not scummates and Jumpluff+iaafr probably not scummates and Jumpluff+Nutella+iaafr def not scummates.

#mostlyworthlessreads

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:11 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:08 am if you're scum i'd eat my toe

This is another level of certainty..

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:11 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:11 am
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:16 am Jackofhearts2005 quick rank playerlist by quality of rabbit name

jumpluff best obv
This is really stupid but given this comes after a picture of Jumpluff's rabbit, I'm going to say that Jumpluff+Nutella likely not scummates and JumpluffNutella+iaafr probably not scummates and Jumpluff+Nutella+iaafr def not scummates.

#mostlyworthlessreads

ebwop

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:13 am**

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:09 am @Jackofhearts2005 you forgot meeee

I knoooooow. I left off people who were at the bottom of the poll and then off the poll for being dead/unchoppable.

But after you revise a list like 5 times the joke kinda loses its shine. I think Urist is a sub average name for a rabbit tho!

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:13 am**

tedxtr is an amazing rabbit name, your list is whack

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:15 am**

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:02 am
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:01 am LOL...yeah, not seeing all that in there.

Yes, you still seem to be whining.

That's okay though.

Do you have any opinion on the matter, or do you just want to talk about my opinion instead?
do you always respond to accusations by degrading the accuser, or only when you're mafia?

LOL...maybe I come from a site where mafia is a bit more rough and tumble, but if you consider my response to have degraded you I apologize. I just think a nebulous "this is a bad post" comment generally merits a one word scoff in response.

We do appear to be making progress though.

You think Hank is town...why? Does seem like a wolf sided sort of role I think? Hank hasn't got anything super townie in his ISO that I can find. So why town?

You think my post aligns me AND Poison, which she says she laughed at for a full minute making me wish I had timed mine. Are you planning to hold onto that alignment read?

Without making you "hedge" do you have an opinion on whether v/w or v/v is more likely here? Do you see any possibility this is some sort of high drama bus action?

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:17 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:13 am tedxtr is an amazing rabbit name, your list is whack

How do you even pronounce that?

Like "Ted" "Dexter" but you kinda mumble the last name? Ted Dexter isn't even that great of a rabbit name. If anything, it implies that you watch a show past the point where it stops being good and actually wanted a bear.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:18 am**

you mesh them together ; ted + dexter = tedexter , that's how you pronounce it

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:18 am**

Why do you hate E's?

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:19 am**

I don't hate them but it was for aesthetics and shit

tedxtr looks better than tedexter imo

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:19 am**

Okay, I'm back.

Spoiler: show

First off, I want to discuss yesterday regarding me.

As much as I tried to prepare myself for this game, to try and take it "cool" in knowing this is a for-fun game, I still somehow managed to take it seriously in strange ways that really stressed me out. Said stress (Probably, but I can't say for certain) led to making ridiculous mistakes, such as checking the ITA veto list and completely missing "Exalt" but seeing "Xalt" in that list. Also, as Jumpluff and others pointed out, there was some preety obvious dissonance in what I was doing/saying (just take a quick look at my iso), and I can only explain that as a result of my stress. Among other things, this is a game completely different from other FM's that I've tried before (the biggest one I've had was only 17 players).

This is only my best explanation I have so far, and I may be wrong in that explanation. I do know though, that something was "off" about me yesterday, especially towards the end of it.

I would like to apologize to [mention]Exalt[/mention] publicly for my mistake yesterday that led to his death, and to everyone else here if my previous actions will (inevitably) cause parts of this game to be perceived as sour or otherwise negatively.

I also completely understand that if you (general "you") view this as a scummy message, and won't blame you for it. Everyone has to deal with the consequences of their actions to some degree, and that should include me, no matter the circumstances regarding it. At the very least I can hope to learn from this in the future.

If you do somehow view me as town though, I hope you can bear with me as I try to learn and adapt to this environment in a way that's best for us all, and fun. One of the things I'm going to start doing is to try and to listen to enjoyable, more calming music while I'm itt, clearly I wasn't able to handle myself very well and its my hope that music (Such as The Redwoods by David Micheal Tardy) will help me take this game in an appropriate manner.

I would also like to thank [mention]jumpluff[/mention] for their well-wish that I sleep well (and to mention them since this message may be of interest to them). Also LOL to the bunny gif they assigned me in #3503.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:20 am**

Exalt wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:51 am Fellow humans, lizard people, and illumanati mafioso, I am here to check in. I haven't read anything, nor do I plan to, but if anyone asked me question or plans to, the answer is: Aliens.

I'll be back later to enlighten you all, but for now, food for thought: If ancient aliens didn't exist, how did they build everything?

Boom

Ancient Aliens does exist, my dad watches it all the time.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:21 am**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:02 am Ok it's open now?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:38 am I asked random.org who to use the ITA thing on.

It rolled 21.
ITA = Jackofhearts2005

[mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention]

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:22 am**

I legit think that is a scum indicative shot for DDL.

He's a principled player who tries his damnedest even in weird games. Not one to rand his ita.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:23 am**

Can anybody explain to me why ephemeral has 7 votes on him? Last night he had 10 but I didn't have enough time to figure out why when I looked at the ISO, and due to a lack of time.
Personally I would've labelled him as NAI (to be determined) last night becuase I felt it wasn't exactly towny or scummy.

Is there something about mashes/rolemadness that I should be looking for in scum that is unique to large role-madness games?

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:23 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:19 am I don't hate them but it was for aesthetics and shit

tedxtr looks better than tedexter imo

FAIR ENOUGH

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:25 am**

It's Tuesday. I missed both ita windows. :sadsad:

Whelp. Now I'm clear because there's no way a wolfteam would have let me be absent for two rounds of itas, especially after being the opening shot of one.

Yay me.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:27 am**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:04 am
Maple wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:04 am Yes, please don't literally RNG your shots, thanks
Imo random vigs from town tend to be +EV to town.

Like....disagree but idk this may be an okay excuse.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:29 am**

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:37 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:47 am Oh DaisyCloud did.

Very good. Townly shot there.
hot taek

honk take

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:29 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:54 am @colonialbob

How's life, broseph?

Point me towards the thingies I should use to find scum. Including the page where itas actually start.

iso jumpluff and search charts with a z

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:29 am**

There are so many posts in this game.

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:30 am**

motel room wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:09 am ITA=Justplayingitcool

We've played together. I recognize this avatar. Why do I not remember this player? Oh well. Funny role. RIP

Posted: **Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:31 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:54 am @colonialbob

How's life, broseph?

Point me towards the thingies I should use to find scum. Including the page where itas actually start.

also, life is good. i mean, it's been a crazy year in a lot of ways, but for me personally life is looking up.

shame about, you know... *vague gestures to the world at large*

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