The Syndicate

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:06 pm The point was clearly a throwaway point regardless of Dizzy's alignment
This isn't even in the range of discussing hard bussing
Are you guys saying Dizzy never does random shit as a wolf

Not to mention the obvious reason he could have spotted that as a wolf

Amy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:09 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:01 pm

Arete wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:01 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:54 pm syn thinks that dyachei is a villager. they think so because they don't believe that dyachei would give up and lolcat so easily, and that they'd be more likely to put up a fight as a wolf

fwiw I'm confident that this isn't true, in one of the hydra games (I think hydra game 3?) they were a wolf and spent a while lolcatting and then saying it wasn't wolf-AI

which it might not be, I'm willing to listen to the meta that they would do this as villa, but it's definitely not village indicative

@Amy now's your time to shine

@Arete dya posting cats rly is NAI lol

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:06 pm I should just start posting cats again with how likely I am to be listened to

i mean, right now my biggest issue is that you came into the day defending your catting instead of like... trying to actually solve the game

i get that it's a rough situation for you regardless of alignment, but if you're town it would be rly helpful for you to actually put in the work today. there are other suspects, your flipping isn't a guaranteed sure thing

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:11 pm everyone has made up their mind already. sure feels like it's a guaranteed sure thing

Amy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:10 pm [VOTE: Syn] aubergine

tbh i'm actually MORE confident in this one

is that weird

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:12 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:11 pm everyone has made up their mind already. sure feels like it's a guaranteed sure thing

if youre town in this situation you should have a solve

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:08 pm That’s besides the point frankly. I also brought it up already in my first reads from reading D2. It was something I quite distinctively picked up on. Reason I called it tinfoil was cause I townread Vul (probably influenced by thread and Arete specifically). There’s no need to bring that up, literally would be the two other wolves if I was the third. It was just a real connection and you can thank me if you’re town (but mostly thank Sunbae)

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:08 pm Also, if you try, you can tell the difference between real and fake thoughts.

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:13 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:12 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:11 pm everyone has made up their mind already. sure feels like it's a guaranteed sure thing

if youre town in this situation you should have a solve

if you read my posts instead of being condescending to me about the rand, you'd know I think it's syn/c4

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:15 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:13 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:12 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:11 pm everyone has made up their mind already. sure feels like it's a guaranteed sure thing

if youre town in this situation you should have a solve

if you read my posts instead of being condescending to me about the rand, you'd know I think it's syn/c4

i know those are your SUSPECTS but you arent trying to convince us it's the SOLVE

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:10 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:08 pm Literally almost every game I call a pairing with a “haha, I’ll ignore it but it’s correct” and it turns out right. If I ever express myself in that manner, just sheep. Happened in champs, radiohead etc etc

yeah lol ur goat

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:10 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:06 pm The point was clearly a throwaway point regardless of Dizzy's alignment
This isn't even in the range of discussing hard bussing
Are you guys saying Dizzy never does random shit as a wolf

Not to mention the obvious reason he could have spotted that as a wolf

Grl. No. Are you mad I got it lol.

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:16 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:15 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:13 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:12 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:11 pm everyone has made up their mind already. sure feels like it's a guaranteed sure thing

if youre town in this situation you should have a solve

if you read my posts instead of being condescending to me about the rand, you'd know I think it's syn/c4

i know those are your SUSPECTS but you arent trying to convince us it's the SOLVE

I ALREADY DID THE WORK TO SHOW THEY'RE THE SOLVES NUTELLA

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:14 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:08 pm That’s besides the point frankly. I also brought it up already in my first reads from reading D2. It was something I quite distinctively picked up on. Reason I called it tinfoil was cause I townread Vul (probably influenced by thread and Arete specifically). There’s no need to bring that up, literally would be the two other wolves if I was the third. It was just a real connection and you can thank me if you’re town (but mostly thank Sunbae)

It's not about reason to bring it up, it's about reason not to

It's a point that 9 times out of 10 vanishes like a fart in the wind
So the reason not to is... what exactly

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:08 pm Also, if you try, you can tell the difference between real and fake thoughts.

I mean, a bit reductive, but yes. I haven't seen any glaring signs guaranteeing that thought to be fake, nor have I seen any glaring signs guaranteeing that thought to be real. If I've missed it by a mile, what do your elf eyes see?

(Not to mention
Again
In this case
If you're a wolf
Why can't that be a real thought?)

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:19 pm Peeved hardcore by the strength of Dizzy's reaction

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:19 pm Peeved hardcore by the strength of Dizzy's reaction

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:20 pm If Syn and I both flipped green Dizzy TMI'd us by thinking he was under any threat here
Have fun

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:22 pm c4, dizzy is just town. I'm putting my foot in the ground on that read.

dizzy as wolf wins by powerwolfing and sweeping. hes not much of a busser and would not point out even micro things that look bad for vulgard when he'd been in a good position. what he did here is the CORNERSTONE of dizzy's town game -- he's not making this up, I've seen it before where he's the one who picks up on little things that turn out to be correct.

I'm concerned that you are trying to force him into poe right now.

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:26 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:20 pm If Syn and I both flipped green Dizzy TMI'd us by thinking he was under any threat here
Have fun

I will flip green.

But working with this "town" is pointless, and I have no interest in it. Dya is town. Don't flip them. That's my legacy.

My other legacy is that your (general your) consensus POE is reliant on believing that the remainder of the wolf team is not only terrible at the game, but actively game-throwing. If you believe dya and me are the last two wolves, then that's simply stupid. Why would I come out the gates trying to save dya when the consensus opinion is that that's hella scummy to do? There is no hope in that venture. The safe thing is to bus. I get no cred for rallying to their defense if they flip red. All this does is put suspicion on me without resolving any suspicion on Dya. Why wouldn't Dya and I just concede if we're doing such a shitty job of this and throwing the game?

If your case is reliant on the idea that the remaining wolves are drooling simpletons, then you have found yourself in a world where you have been hosed by wolves.

Flip me first. Do it. Then you can navel gaze for a while and say, "Well, this doesn't clear Dya..." and then mischop them too. Remaining town can have fun figuring it out afterward.

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:26 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:20 pm If Syn and I both flipped green Dizzy TMI'd us by thinking he was under any threat here
Have fun

I will flip green.

But working with this "town" is pointless, and I have no interest in it. Dya is town. Don't flip them. That's my legacy.

My other legacy is that your (general your) consensus POE is reliant on believing that the remainder of the wolf team is not only terrible at the game, but actively game-throwing. If you believe dya and me are the last two wolves, then that's simply stupid. Why would I come out the gates trying to save dya when the consensus opinion is that that's hella scummy to do? There is no hope in that venture. The safe thing is to bus. I get no cred for rallying to their defense if they flip red. All this does is put suspicion on me without resolving any suspicion on Dya. Why wouldn't Dya and I just concede if we're doing such a shitty job of this and throwing the game?

If your case is reliant on the idea that the remaining wolves are drooling simpletons, then you have found yourself in a world where you have been hosed by wolves.

Flip me first. Do it. Then you can navel gaze for a while and say, "Well, this doesn't clear Dya..." and then mischop them too. Remaining town can have fun figuring it out afterward.

bronana wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:33 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:26 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:20 pm If Syn and I both flipped green Dizzy TMI'd us by thinking he was under any threat here
Have fun

I will flip green.

But working with this "town" is pointless, and I have no interest in it. Dya is town. Don't flip them. That's my legacy.

My other legacy is that your (general your) consensus POE is reliant on believing that the remainder of the wolf team is not only terrible at the game, but actively game-throwing. If you believe dya and me are the last two wolves, then that's simply stupid. Why would I come out the gates trying to save dya when the consensus opinion is that that's hella scummy to do? There is no hope in that venture. The safe thing is to bus. I get no cred for rallying to their defense if they flip red. All this does is put suspicion on me without resolving any suspicion on Dya. Why wouldn't Dya and I just concede if we're doing such a shitty job of this and throwing the game?

If your case is reliant on the idea that the remaining wolves are drooling simpletons, then you have found yourself in a world where you have been hosed by wolves.

Flip me first. Do it. Then you can navel gaze for a while and say, "Well, this doesn't clear Dya..." and then mischop them too. Remaining town can have fun figuring it out afterward.

your reads are that dya is town because they posted lolcats and visor is mafia because he's funny and you are indignant people don't find that compelling?

Vulgard wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:23 am Marl is a villager. This is the exact part of Sunbae's posting I thought was wolfy because my perspective was opposed. I didn't explicitly say it by bringing up a quote, but Marl zeroes in on that and has my exact initial reaction.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:35 pm I mean if syn and dya are both green it's c4/spf probably but lol that world

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:37 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:35 pm I mean if syn and dya are both green it's c4/spf probably but lol that world

interesting that this is the world you come up because this is one of the worlds I posted in neighbour chat that SPF conveniently neglected to include

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:37 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:35 pm I mean if syn and dya are both green it's c4/spf probably but lol that world

interesting that this is the world you come up because this is one of the worlds I posted in neighbour chat that SPF conveniently neglected to include

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:38 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:37 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:35 pm I mean if syn and dya are both green it's c4/spf probably but lol that world

interesting that this is the world you come up because this is one of the worlds I posted in neighbour chat that SPF conveniently neglected to include

you did not mention a single thing about thinking that me/c4 could be partnered in our chat, do you wanna take that back?

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:41 pm @nutella I think he pocketed arete and marl, so they shouldn't be wolves. my solve is looking good so far

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:40 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:38 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:37 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:35 pm I mean if syn and dya are both green it's c4/spf probably but lol that world

interesting that this is the world you come up because this is one of the worlds I posted in neighbour chat that SPF conveniently neglected to include

you did not mention a single thing about thinking that me/c4 could be partnered in our chat, do you wanna take that back?

I definitely said that my suspect list was the people going under the radar with vulgard caught because they have incentive to not rock the boat

that list included three names

c4
dizzy
you

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:41 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:41 pm @nutella I think he pocketed arete and marl, so they shouldn't be wolves. my solve is looking good so far

cool nobody thinks those two people are wolves, they are not in the poe.

how about you look at the poe

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:43 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:41 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:41 pm @nutella I think he pocketed arete and marl, so they shouldn't be wolves. my solve is looking good so far

cool nobody thinks those two people are wolves, they are not in the poe.

how about you look at the poe

you know what? this attitude of yours can fuck off. you asked me to show you why my solve is correct. well, poes are made by ruling people out...which I'm doing by looking at vulgard's posts.

if that's not good enough for you, go suck eggs

Vulgard wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:38 am c4, dya and KZA are in the "no impressions made" club and I would like them to play the game. I do not townread c4 for a carefully voiced scumread (?) on SPF. That's in any average wolf's wolfrange and I think SPF is too quick to clear them regardless of alignment.

dya and KZA just haven't talked about the game much yet. Dya got offended based on a single accusation if I read that correctly, and KZA 5-posted and dipped.

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:45 pm

Vulgard wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:38 am c4, dya and KZA are in the "no impressions made" club and I would like them to play the game. I do not townread c4 for a carefully voiced scumread (?) on SPF. That's in any average wolf's wolfrange and I think SPF is too quick to clear them regardless of alignment.

dya and KZA just haven't talked about the game much yet. Dya got offended based on a single accusation if I read that correctly, and KZA 5-posted and dipped.

you really think he sat here and said, let me put 2 teammates into my POE?

how the fuck do you guys have me as a wolf? have you read vulgard's posts?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:46 pm something feels a little off to me rn - it might be because syn's indignation about dya being town is difficult for me to wrap my head around, but it also makes me feel doubtful that the solve is as easy as exactly dya/syn

Vulgard wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:44 am

Arete wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:42 am I'm pretty sure Vul is already out of his wolfrange from his linguistic analysis of SPF but there are a couple points in his posts that are very yikes

right now I would call him like 98 percent town but I should have a more confident read later and this isn't at sheepable territory yet

(for the unfamiliar, Vul and I have highly accurate reads on each other, essentially 100 percent accurate discounting third parties)

Any reads on your end other than the read on Tangrowth?

Currently reading SPF's CoV ISO. If anyone has other wolfgames she played on forum, link them to me, please. I'm trying to verify if I correctly spotted a tell between her village/wolfplay.