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Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:41 pm
by fingersplints
So I'm trying to look at kills. Some of them make sense for both Gman or sanmateo (MP for possible info role). I think TH's death could be more connected with sanmateo. I did find this which was interesting. I forgot MM was on to bass early, but specifically he didn't like bass not mentioning the 6 new players.
Metalmarsh89 wrote:In fact, I'm going to listen to that album now, just for you Alex.
Bass_the_Clever, what are your thoughts or reads on the six new players in this game? I have not seen you mention any of them yet. The same question stands for Black Rock and fingersplints.
The 6 being DDL, JJJ,
sanmateo, aether, TB, and sloonei.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [NIGHT 4]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:42 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
this guy knew he looked bad after the Roxy lynch. he didn't hide from it and he didn't feed anyone any WIFOMburgers.
sanmateo wrote:acrosstheaether wrote:It would also be interesting to see who has been suspiciously defensive of Roxy. The nightkill is the mafia's most beneficial weapon, surely they would do anything to keep the role that allows for that.

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:43 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
The MP kill implicates G-Man more than any kill implicates sanmateo imo.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:44 pm
by fingersplints
I think that one can be argued for both.

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:46 pm
by fingersplints
I'm trying to look at TB and sloonei now. I think with all the TB role speculation it could be argued for both as well. mafia always want to take out dangerous roles first. info and role stealing definitely are civvie powerful.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [NIGHT 4]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:46 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
MP's last rainbow before dying. and this came after he went crazy dogpeeing all over G-Man's face.
MovingPictures07 wrote:It should be evident how I'm feeling, but I'm going to drop this here in case I die tonight, and also because YAY COLORS!
DDL
fingersplints
Turnip
sanmateo
Golden 2.0
JJJ
Vompatti
Bass
aether
G-Man
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:48 pm
by fingersplints
that is to say IF either are even those roles. The speculation might have been enough to make it worth while.
linki ok ya I will give Gman slightly more MP.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:49 pm
by fingersplints
sloonei's last post lol
Sloonei wrote:G-man you're my hero
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:49 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
if G-Man is mafia, MP had both of the remaining baddies in his top 3 suspects. and i honestly found the MP kill choice a little bit surprising. he was playing well definitely, but he didn't seem to be attracting quite the same trust as some other high-posters.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:50 pm
by fingersplints
G if you killed sloonei that is so harsh

called you his hero and everything
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:51 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
if sanmateo is mafia then he knew who the other mafia were the entire game. and he didn't vote for any of them once even when he had opportunities to do so. even when their lynches were safely secured.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:55 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
oh Vompatti. it'd be nice if we still had your vote open.

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:55 pm
by fingersplints
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:if sanmateo is mafia then he knew who the other mafia were the entire game. and he didn't vote for any of them once even when he had opportunities to do so. even when their lynches were safely secured.
Yea it does seem easier. I have to look at the times of all his votes again. I have been bad in games before and deemed it too late to be able to safely vote my teammate anymore. I don't think either have great votes.

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:56 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
i believe we have about 10 minutes left. please correct me if not hosts.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:00 pm
by fingersplints
9 now
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:01 pm
by fingersplints
JJJ if we lynch gman today and are wrong where does that leave us?
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:02 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
fingersplints wrote:JJJ if we lynch gman today and are wrong where does that leave us?
LyLo. same place if we lynch sanmateo and are wrong. the variables in play are the potential lynch stop and any additional night kills by the mafia.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:03 pm
by fingersplints
well no. If Gman is a civvie he does not have a lynch stop and will be lynched. If sanmateo is a civvie he has a lynch stop and will not be lynched. reveal might give information but we need numbers atm
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:04 pm
by Russtifinko
Poll ends in just under 5 minutes, by my count.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:04 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
sanmat may not have even activated the stop. he pulled a "might" on us. meh.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:06 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Golden may have forced our hand anyway. if we both vote G-Man he only leads by one vote, which means little in this game.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:07 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
voting sanmateo.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:08 pm
by fingersplints
yea, I have to stick with my gut on this one, and vote sanmateo
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:08 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
hopefully it works out. stressful day phase lol
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:10 pm
by fingersplints
this was incredibly intense.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:11 pm
by acrosstheaether
How long will it take to do the reveal, because I'm off to sleeeeeeeeeeeeepzzzzzzzpppppp
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:13 pm
by fingersplints
If the lynch doesn't go through, or if something else funky goes on, at least everyone has pretty much made it clear who they think the last remaining baddie is.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:19 pm
by fingersplints
acrosstheaether wrote:How long will it take to do the reveal, because I'm off to sleeeeeeeeeeeeepzzzzzzzpppppp
Getting late here too. The hosts are good at having them up on time. I would expect it soon. They would have said something by now if it were going to be really late.

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:19 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
F5 imo
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:20 pm
by Russtifinko
Day 7: The Fleetingness of Time
DDL's death had put a tiny crack in the sense of indestructibility experienced by the civs. They realized that now there was a chance that their capitalist utopia could still be torn down before it was even built. To compound the problem, the sun seemed to be moving much faster across the sky, leaving them less time to discuss how to put their ideas into practice.
As the sun was dipping below the horizon, they rounded squarely on sanmateo. "You were friends with those dirty Communists!" they said. He protested, but couldn't convince the others.
"I'm wearing a bulletproof vest!" he shouted at them. "You can''t kill me; this is a waste of time!" The group huddled up, and asked themselves what to do about his conundrum. Someone astutely observed that he wasn't wearing a bulletproof vest on his head, and so they shot him there. They had no more time to waste; there was work to be done.
sanmateo has been lynched. He was Joseph Schumpeter.
It is now Night 7. You have 24 hours to send in your PMs.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:21 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
'swot i figured. Schumpter was a sensible town role for the lynchproof. thankfully he didn't use it though. if he had it could have lost us the game.
RIP sanmateo.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:23 pm
by fingersplints
I wish I had gone to bed and not seen that ;( well fuck sorry sanmateo.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:24 pm
by Turnip Head
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:25 pm
by acrosstheaether
Turnip Head wrote:
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:25 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
i am going to have serious issues being available if i am alive in Day 8. most of the day phase will take place while i'm sleeping or working. including the deadline.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:26 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
splints is not mafia. never vote for her ever.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:28 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
i have reason to believe Vompatti is not mafia. if i am right about him, he can help me confirm that ASAP. no details allowed.
Golden and G-Man are my candidates right now. i don't think i need to say which one i favor.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:02 pm
by fingersplints
I think its gman
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:16 pm
by G-Man
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:31 pm
by G-Man
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:'swot i figured. Schumpter was a sensible town role for the lynchproof. thankfully he didn't use it though. if he had it could have lost us the game.
RIP sanmateo.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:32 pm
by Vompatti
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:i have reason to believe Vompatti is not mafia. if i am right about him, he can help me confirm that ASAP. no details allowed.
I believe I have reason to believe I know what that reason is.

Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:35 pm
by Golden
Sorry sanmateo. RIP. That one is definitely on me.
JJ, I firmly agree on splints. I haven't been able to follow where your brain is at, given yesterday you thought sanmateo's case on splints had merit, but I agree anyway.
I'm not sure why you trust vomps, but lets see how that plays out and if you still think so if vomps does or does not do what you expect him to. Fair enough with no details.
I feel bad that JJ felt I forced their hand. I had no choice but to vote when I did. I wish I could have waited but I couldn't

sometimes thats the way it goes.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

This perfectly captures how I was feeling too.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:37 pm
by Tangrowth
RIP sanmateo. 
Come on, civilians! You can do it!
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:46 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Golden wrote:Sorry sanmateo. RIP. That one is definitely on me.
nah. all three of us voted for him and so we share the blame. and sanmateo himself to a lesser degree.
Golden wrote:JJ, I firmly agree on splints. I haven't been able to follow where your brain is at, given yesterday you thought sanmateo's case on splints had merit, but I agree anyway.
remember when i said the discussion during that heated portion of the day would be very telling come LyLo if we get it wrong? this is what i was referring to. splints was gushing town-tells during those proceedings (earnestly trying to work out who is really more deserving of a vote, communicating her feelings thoroughly). a mafia player doesn't care who gets lynched as long as it's not him/herself.
Golden wrote:I'm not sure why you trust vomps, but lets see how that plays out and if you still think so if vomps does or does not do what you expect him to. Fair enough with no details.
yeah we'll have to see. i hope he comes through. it doesn't have to be with me though. as long as he has a good idea of who is a townie in the Day phase he should be okay. if i am right about him of course.
Golden wrote:I feel bad that JJ felt I forced their hand. I had no choice but to vote when I did. I wish I could have waited but I couldn't

sometimes thats the way it goes.
sanmateo forced our hand more than anyone else. the lynch stop thing was hanging over our heads and it could have genuinely ruined the entire game. if he'd stopped the lynch on Day 7 and then gotten lynched anyway on Day 8, game over town loses. that's why it's a relief to me that he didn't use it. now we can shift our focus collectively to the real problem. ahem.
i think we all know what to do here, right? or at least there should be a lot of confidence.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:55 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
RIP sanmateo. Although your votes were all wrong, I really liked the way you played here. I hope I play with you again, and sorry for being an ass to you on D1.
The game is getting really epic. I wish there was a skype chat like in mafia champions so I could talk about it. 
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:56 pm
by Tangrowth
Dragon D. Luffy wrote:RIP sanmateo. Although your votes were all wrong, I really liked the way you played here. I hope I play with you again.
The game is getting really epic. I wish there was a skype chat like in mafia champions so I could talk about it. 
Both of these 100%.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:57 pm
by Golden
I don't share your confidence but I have hope. I'm wary of manipulation.
And I now think that maybe what you are thinking about vomps is what I was thinking about g-man, but I'm not sure if I'm on the right track with that (with us seeing the same role, I mean).
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:04 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Golden wrote:I don't share your confidence but I have hope. I'm wary of manipulation.
And I now think that maybe what you are thinking about vomps is what I was thinking about g-man, but I'm not sure if I'm on the right track with that (with us seeing the same role, I mean).
i am just going to say this in a vacuum. if you and i are talking about the same thing then you might what i mean:
any player who wanted Roxy lynched on Day 4 cannot fit the bill.
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:06 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
might know* EBWOP
Re: Death and Taxes: An Economics Mafia [DAY 7]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:09 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
there is another player still alive who could be the person i am suspecting Vompatti to be. i will not name that player though.