The Syndicate

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:23 pm

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:20 pm

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:18 pm i understand those are a lot of drago voters but 7 of us are drago voters. unless we wanna trim down our pool by a lot, then i think we don't clear the drago voters from scrutiny

So only 3 Drago voters in the other group sure is a weird split also for people that have done this before are both halfs revealed after wards or forever hidden?

First of all how do you know there are two groups and not say three? Oddly there are 27 players alive and 11 in our group, so either way the groups are unevenly distributed.

Good catch.

I wonder if the wolves got any say in how the players were grouped?

Benson wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:25 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:25 pm At least let me spam the shit out of this thread today

Why were you ITT but not posting at EoD?

Had no idea what was going on and had other games to play

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:17 pm tlib
elephant
juliets
long con
dfaraday

this is the list of suspects i'm working within today. get crackalackin.

I looked at [mention]juliets[/mention] yesterday, and concluded that if she is a wolf, she is a wolf with Tony. We now know that's not the case.

Elephant wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:30 pm

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:17 pm tlib
elephant
juliets
long con
dfaraday

this is the list of suspects i'm working within today. get crackalackin.

I looked at @juliets yesterday, and concluded that if she is a wolf, she is a wolf with Tony. We now know that's not the case.

cool

alright bouncing, will be here tomorrow

Oh wait, was the playerlist split in half?

It's such a huge relief that I get to focus on a reasonable amount of players now.

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:23 pm it should go without saying that boo/creature/dfaraday/elephant will be getting heat today anyways

I shall go to sleep shortly.

Neat

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:02 pm oh come on why am i selected to have to play the game

lame

I think it was better for me, I'm gonna be ultrabusy saturday and sunday

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:26 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:25 pm The fact that TLib is interested in find the bussers on the wagon kinda looks good on him. If he were a wolf I think he'd want to soak up the credit for being on that wagon instead of insinuating there may have been bussing.

villagery read, i like it!

Eh I don't really agree atm, he could just be trying to deflect that off of himself. I haven't liked any of his posts so far today

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:24 pm

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:23 pm it should go without saying that boo/creature/dfaraday/elephant will be getting heat today anyways

they are gonna be my first ISO's after dinner tonight also i think boo was honestly jsut not caught up after subbing in don't know about the others

Spiny Creature would be the player to examine in this case.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:06 pm Damn, I hate when they split us up.

I am actually loving it, makes the focus way easier

Oops too small of a text

I'll try better

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:27 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:26 pm When will I be mislynched btw? I want to know when it's ready

why are you so concerned about being lynched today? just because you didn't vote on the wolf wagon?

Yeah creature stop whining and help us solve. Some of us still townread you but that could change if you don't participate in a helpful way.

Elephant wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:30 pm

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:17 pm tlib
elephant
juliets
long con
dfaraday

this is the list of suspects i'm working within today. get crackalackin.

I looked at @juliets yesterday, and concluded that if she is a wolf, she is a wolf with Tony. We now know that's not the case.

Huh idgi.

How did you figure that from their interaction at all

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:06 pm elephant dfaraday creature boo all didn't vote on drago

2 of them voted on 112

Yeah yeah, I have called Drago town and I couldn't simply back out considering I'd also have to back off on a lot of reads, so I just went with my gut on 112.

Likely there were bussers though

They're everywhere

Just because she backed off the case? Is that why you pushed her back to it to see how she'd react? Hmm

Benson wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:25 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:25 pm At least let me spam the shit out of this thread today

Why were you ITT but not posting at EoD?

[mention]Creature[/mention]

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:07 pm tsp was probably vigged? or can we not discuss that?

I think we can. What do you think about Texas' reads?

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:27 pm

Elephant wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:24 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:10 pm

Elephant wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:09 pm I still believe 112 was mafia as well.

Drago went after them very early in the game. Would he do that to a new teammate he's unfamiliar with?

I don't know Dragomir at all. But it strikes me that he went after them for the roleplay post, which doesn't make a convincing case.

He thought it did until Jay posted the answer in the thread about role not being related to character.

He was a wolf, though, and had a fake claim in his role, so he would have known that.

Large huge ass quote by Benson that I'm too lazy to actually quote and remove all but a few parts wrote:Nanook - Huge push against Drago. This doesn't happen if he's w/w.

112 - Spewed probable non-wolf by Drago:
SPOILER: SHOW
112 also served as the CW that some wolves likely pushed to save Drago. 3P should remain a possibility, however.

Nutella - Involvement in Drago lynch is great.
The vote was fairly early on the wagon and a major contribution to the lynch. Her subsequent posts after the fact helped push the wagon along.

I'm going to agree with/sheep all these reads

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:36 pm

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:27 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:26 pm When will I be mislynched btw? I want to know when it's ready

why are you so concerned about being lynched today? just because you didn't vote on the wolf wagon?

Yeah creature stop whining and help us solve. Some of us still townread you but that could change if you don't participate in a helpful way.

Yep. I don't like the AtE pleas. And I don't like the scattered opinions that look more like a wolf trying to look busy, rather than a villager trying to helpfully game-solve.

Benson wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:41 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:36 pm

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:27 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:26 pm When will I be mislynched btw? I want to know when it's ready

why are you so concerned about being lynched today? just because you didn't vote on the wolf wagon?

Yeah creature stop whining and help us solve. Some of us still townread you but that could change if you don't participate in a helpful way.

Yep. I don't like the AtE pleas. And I don't like the scattered opinions that look more like a wolf trying to look busy, rather than a villager trying to helpfully game-solve.

I should clarify that by "don't like" I mean they are making me suspicious.

Large huge ass quote you know it wrote:Pawn - Big Drago vote.

vanity - Proponent and voter of the Drago wagon.

Juliets - Interactions with Drago suggest town. Her vote was fairly crucial in Drago's lynch and I don't see her as the type to bus like that.

Iaarf - Overall, had a villagery progression at EoD even though it did seem like he wanted 112 lynched over Drago, and almost made it happen.
Drago was hunting iaarf as a 3P candidate early on. This is typical wolf stuff when they no someone isn't a wolf, but may be 3P instead of a villager.

Hyena - I don't agree the wolf accusations. What I see is a villager with specific tactics to get reads and reactions that will help us.

Eva - I'm not sure where I stand on her. I was village reading her but after EoD she's lost some town equity. I'll have to re-evaluate.

Okay

Okay

Meh, dunno

Going with iaafr town for now

Maybe

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:24 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:22 pm

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:21 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:20 pm

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:17 pm tlib
elephant
juliets
long con
dfaraday

this is the list of suspects i'm working within today. get crackalackin.

You think I'm a suspect? I took Drago to 5 votes from 4 where he was tied with others.

don't really care about wagons atm, sorry

just trying to pressure people i find are wolfy or not towny enough to my liking

Well then, pressure away. What do you want to know?

just let me know why i should've found you as v already and some of your general thoughts on us people in the group

that should be simple enough

I'll give some off the top of my head thoughts about people in the group and then ISO myself, though I think my vote timing is the biggest thing. I do not think everyone who voted Drago was necessarily town. Also I really need to ISO some of the group but like I said, here's my top of head thoughts.

Long Con - voted at the last minute for Drago, had just voted 112 6 minutes before. I need an explanation here as I found that very odd. Other than that he has not impressed me as wolf or town so I will ISO him.

TL - I explained late yesterday why he was null to me when the votes were piling on him. Today I'm reading him as town, he voted essentially when I did.

Elephant - I felt good about my conversation with him in the thread where he was encouraging me to take another look at Tony before dismissing him but I know others had an issue with that. Now that Tony has flipped town I will need to re-evaluate our conversation. I like Elephant, he's one of the only people who's made me feel important, so I'm going to have to really set that aside to re-evaluate.

DFaraday - He's not around. I don't like that at this point of the game. Lean scum, seems like he's done this before as scum.

Benson - lean town on Benson. I like his insights they seem very villagery.

vanity - leaning town

Creature - It's been pointed out he was around at EOD but didn't join in which is not good. I really didn't pay a lot of attention to him yesterday because it seemed like he was just reeling off one liners without any depth. I'll ISO him to be fair. Lean scum.

boo - brand new, need him to post before I can evaluate.

Hyena - I don't understand why he was so hell bent on getting a tie. In our games town generally doesn't want a tie. I need to ISO him because I don't have much of a read on him or rather it feels like he was just jumping around a lot like iaafr (maybe not that bad).

nutella - straight up town.

That same quote wrote:PoE - wolfy

Creature - I remember seeing his name at the bottom for most of EoD, but he wasn't posting as if he was a frozen wolf. Given the content I've seen from him, I don't see how he wouldn't be contributing at EoD, even if he wasn't caught up.

Yeah, I was checking in like I do every game and multiple times I wanted to post something, but I just couldn't find anything to say.

Obviously I could just post spam rather than look like I am frozen, but then I'll just be a huge jerk.

Also sorry, I didn't want to compromise into taking a deciding stance so I just stayed on 112 and went hail mary

My bum is on your lips wrote:Wolf reads
Nova - Tried extensively to push away from the Drago lynch. Like his ISO is literally 50% defending Drago or trying to lynch a CW. Prime suspect today.

I don't think that's necessarily scummy, could be just wrong townie. At least I'd expect scum to be more discreet unless I'm missing something.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:09 pm kinda surprising they didn't kill a more obvious townie

They never kill me :/

Though, Texas was also pretty obvious townie

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:09 pm guess i could be wrong on creature. meh.

Oh no you don't

Elephant wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:09 pm I still believe 112 was mafia as well.

I don't anymore, so guess I'll have to find someone else to Queen Votepark Rangers

Elephant wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:35 pm

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:24 pm

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:23 pm it should go without saying that boo/creature/dfaraday/elephant will be getting heat today anyways

they are gonna be my first ISO's after dinner tonight also i think boo was honestly jsut not caught up after subbing in don't know about the others

Spiny Creature would be the player to examine in this case.

Oh true, I didn't think about this when I gave my boo answer. I will ISO her today.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:36 pm

Elephant wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:30 pm

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:17 pm tlib
elephant
juliets
long con
dfaraday

this is the list of suspects i'm working within today. get crackalackin.

I looked at @juliets yesterday, and concluded that if she is a wolf, she is a wolf with Tony. We now know that's not the case.

Huh idgi.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:36 pm How did you figure that from their interaction at all

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:37 pm Just because she backed off the case? Is that why you pushed her back to it to see how she'd react? Hmm

Indeed. At first I had thought her ISO was a lazy push because it had no follow-through, but her explanation made sense. But her follow-through that I asked her for had no bite either. I then concluded that juliets did not do it to appear townish, she was either embarrassed town, or she was interested in being seen to push Tony specifically, but not too hard. Since I had Tony as town lean, that made juliets town for me for the day. If we had lynched Tony and he had flipped mafia, that would have changed.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:45 pm

My bum is on your lips wrote:Wolf reads
Nova - Tried extensively to push away from the Drago lynch. Like his ISO is literally 50% defending Drago or trying to lynch a CW. Prime suspect today.

I don't think that's necessarily scummy, could be just wrong townie. At least I'd expect scum to be more discreet unless I'm missing something.

Nova pings me so much because I don't understand his reasoning for being so firmly against the Dragomir wagon. It was like he was trying to get anyone (112 or Epignosis) lynched, as long as it wasn't Drag. Yes, this does seem strange for a wolf to do so blatantly, but it could have been because Drago had a power role and maybe he really wanted to preserve that?

Benson wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:10 pm

Elephant wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:09 pm I still believe 112 was mafia as well.

Drago went after them very early in the game. Would he do that to a new teammate he's unfamiliar with?

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:17 pm tlib
elephant
juliets
long con
dfaraday

this is the list of suspects i'm working within today. get crackalackin.

DFaraday should go at some point and idgaf

Benson wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:48 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:45 pm

My bum is on your lips wrote:Wolf reads
Nova - Tried extensively to push away from the Drago lynch. Like his ISO is literally 50% defending Drago or trying to lynch a CW. Prime suspect today.

I don't think that's necessarily scummy, could be just wrong townie. At least I'd expect scum to be more discreet unless I'm missing something.

Nova pings me so much because I don't understand his reasoning for being so firmly against the Dragomir wagon. It was like he was trying to get anyone (112 or Epignosis) lynched, as long as it wasn't Drag. Yes, this does seem strange for a wolf to do so blatantly, but it could have been because Drago had a power role and maybe he really wanted to preserve that?

This should say powerful role, not power role. I suppose the Godfather isn't as strong in games where you can't claim anything, however.

Benson wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:48 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:45 pm

My bum is on your lips wrote:Wolf reads
Nova - Tried extensively to push away from the Drago lynch. Like his ISO is literally 50% defending Drago or trying to lynch a CW. Prime suspect today.

I don't think that's necessarily scummy, could be just wrong townie. At least I'd expect scum to be more discreet unless I'm missing something.

Nova pings me so much because I don't understand his reasoning for being so firmly against the Dragomir wagon. It was like he was trying to get anyone (112 or Epignosis) lynched, as long as it wasn't Drag. Yes, this does seem strange for a wolf to do so blatantly, but it could have been because Drago had a power role and maybe he really wanted to preserve that?

Drago was The Godfather. They put it in the OP.

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:23 pm it should go without saying that boo/creature/dfaraday/elephant will be getting heat today anyways

Take me out

The others I approve

Starting with

[VOTE: boo] aubergine

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:52 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:48 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:45 pm

My bum is on your lips wrote:Wolf reads
Nova - Tried extensively to push away from the Drago lynch. Like his ISO is literally 50% defending Drago or trying to lynch a CW. Prime suspect today.

I don't think that's necessarily scummy, could be just wrong townie. At least I'd expect scum to be more discreet unless I'm missing something.

Nova pings me so much because I don't understand his reasoning for being so firmly against the Dragomir wagon. It was like he was trying to get anyone (112 or Epignosis) lynched, as long as it wasn't Drag. Yes, this does seem strange for a wolf to do so blatantly, but it could have been because Drago had a power role and maybe he really wanted to preserve that?

Drago was The Godfather. They put it in the OP.

Yeah, I know. I messed up my wording.

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:24 pm

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:23 pm it should go without saying that boo/creature/dfaraday/elephant will be getting heat today anyways

they are gonna be my first ISO's after dinner tonight also i think boo was honestly jsut not caught up after subbing in don't know about the others

On a new perspective, I think Spiny Creature had the potential to be scum

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:47 pm

Elephant wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:09 pm I still believe 112 was mafia as well.

I don't anymore, so guess I'll have to find someone else to Queen Votepark Rangers

112 is no longer here to be voted, in any case.

Benson wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:25 pm The fact that TLib is interested in find the bussers on the wagon kinda looks good on him. If he were a wolf I think he'd want to soak up the credit for being on that wagon instead of insinuating there may have been bussing.

Not necessarily

though I townlean him for other reasons

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:54 pm

Benson wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:25 pm The fact that TLib is interested in find the bussers on the wagon kinda looks good on him. If he were a wolf I think he'd want to soak up the credit for being on that wagon instead of insinuating there may have been bussing.

Not necessarily

though I townlean him for other reasons

I know. But it's at least *somewhat* villagery for him to think that.

I'm off to do some ISO's - I will check back every once in a while and see if I've been tagged.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:53 pm

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:24 pm

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:23 pm it should go without saying that boo/creature/dfaraday/elephant will be getting heat today anyways

they are gonna be my first ISO's after dinner tonight also i think boo was honestly jsut not caught up after subbing in don't know about the others

On a new perspective, I think Spiny Creature had the potential to be scum

Care to explain?

vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:26 pm i'm peacing in 5 minutes