The Syndicate

DFaraday wrote:I do think I had too much potential for BTSC and role knowledge in this game. Something I'll try to avoid in future games.

Oh no DF you do you. That's just the baby of the beast.

I'm just saying it's like ordering a coffee and receiving a Venti Mint-Jive mocha chai tea latte with added whip, chocolate drizzle and coconut shavings for "Garth". My name ain't Garth, ms. barista, but I'll still drink it.

Scotty wrote:

DFaraday wrote:I do think I had too much potential for BTSC and role knowledge in this game. Something I'll try to avoid in future games.

Oh no DF you do you. That's just the baby of the beast.

I'm just saying it's like ordering a coffee and receiving a Venti Mint-Jive mocha chai tea latte with added whip, chocolate drizzle and coconut shavings for "Garth". My name ain't Garth, ms. barista, but I'll still drink it.

Well I mean, the last few days of the game had a lot of, "I'm just really really sure about him, you guys," which is something I don't like to experience when I'm playing, especially when someone ends up lynched just because nobody is vouching for them. Less BTSC and role checking would help with that, I think.

DFaraday wrote:

Scotty wrote:

DFaraday wrote:I do think I had too much potential for BTSC and role knowledge in this game. Something I'll try to avoid in future games.

Oh no DF you do you. That's just the baby of the beast.

I'm just saying it's like ordering a coffee and receiving a Venti Mint-Jive mocha chai tea latte with added whip, chocolate drizzle and coconut shavings for "Garth". My name ain't Garth, ms. barista, but I'll still drink it.

Well I mean, the last few days of the game had a lot of, "I'm just really really sure about him, you guys," which is something I don't like to experience when I'm playing, especially when someone ends up lynched just because nobody is vouching for them. Less BTSC and role checking would help with that, I think.

Yes, and/or more deception possibilities. Public deception possibilities - even the mere idea of Olaf being a Seemer when lynched was enough to wrench up the works in a few places. Having one or two Seemers, a Trickster to mess with other people's (role-checking) abilities, and a couple of Olaf-style Godfather types goes a long way, I think.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Sig was theone who sent me the item. There was zero chance he could be mafia. Unless Olaf secretely could pretend to be Violet and send fake inventions, but not this kind of game.

Golden could still be Olaf fooling Sig's ability somehow, so that's a 2℅ chance of bad instead of 0℅ (according to an estimation I just pulled out of my ass)

But I put sig right through proof in thread that each of poems kills were me and backed it up with the mm kill that I promised as well.

Soneji wrote:Its funny how Golden's main reason of suspicion on me was for my suspicion on a member of the opposing mafia team

It wasn't that, it was the way it seemed entirely at odds with what you'd posted before that.

Soneji wrote:The lesson here is that different mindsets for scumhunting will always get me suspected on this site. My reasoning was sound and I was right in that Zebra was a baddie trying to push lynches on false pretenses, yet Golden found my logic suspicious.

And I also thought your sprit vote looked like a bus.

Yeah, the only possibility we had left which wasn't sorsha was Dom as Olaf.

What I was hoping would happen is the other five voted Dom. That way, if I was right about Dom, we would win by lynching sorsha, and if I were wrong about Dom, we'd win by lynching dom.

Golden wrote:Yeah, the only possibility we had left which wasn't sorsha was Dom as Olaf.

What I was hoping would happen is the other five voted Dom. That way, if I was right about Dom, we would win by lynching sorsha, and if I were wrong about Dom, we'd win by lynching dom.

That's what was going to happen, but DF cut it short because Dom wasn't Olaf.

Long Con wrote:

Golden wrote:Yeah, the only possibility we had left which wasn't sorsha was Dom as Olaf.

What I was hoping would happen is the other five voted Dom. That way, if I was right about Dom, we would win by lynching sorsha, and if I were wrong about Dom, we'd win by lynching dom.

That's what was going to happen, but DF cut it short because Dom wasn't Olaf.

Oh wait, no, they were gonna lynch YOU.

Golden wrote:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Sig was theone who sent me the item. There was zero chance he could be mafia. Unless Olaf secretely could pretend to be Violet and send fake inventions, but not this kind of game.

Golden could still be Olaf fooling Sig's ability somehow, so that's a 2℅ chance of bad instead of 0℅ (according to an estimation I just pulled out of my ass)

But I put sig right through proof in thread that each of poems kills were me and backed it up with the mm kill that I promised as well.

Oh yeah the MM kill. Forgot about that.

Okay then... 0.5%.

Epignosis wrote:First, I will share with you why I thought Long Con was good. Due to his "Don't count your chickens" remark about getting lynched, I interpreted that to be a signal that Long Con was Hector. However, when the tied lynch was neither stopped nor switched, I determined that Long Con is not Hector, because he would not have taken such a risk. He would have either stopped the lynch or switched it to the person he voted for. He may yet be Justice Strauss, but that doesn't explain his comment about chickens. I do not suspect him, but I don't believe he is Hector.

No signal. I just knew I wasn't getting lynched, so when someone suggested that I would be lynched, I just told them that, as in "Don't count your chickens before they're hatched." A common idiom, not a signal.

DFaraday wrote: Soup has been killed by Sunny and Esme.
LoRab has been killed by Mr. Poe.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Lot's of civilian kills last night. But hey! It beats a modkill.

How do you know soup was a civilian?

This is the hint I was talking about.

Long Con wrote:

Epignosis wrote:First, I will share with you why I thought Long Con was good. Due to his "Don't count your chickens" remark about getting lynched, I interpreted that to be a signal that Long Con was Hector. However, when the tied lynch was neither stopped nor switched, I determined that Long Con is not Hector, because he would not have taken such a risk. He would have either stopped the lynch or switched it to the person he voted for. He may yet be Justice Strauss, but that doesn't explain his comment about chickens. I do not suspect him, but I don't believe he is Hector.

No signal. I just knew I wasn't getting lynched, so when someone suggested that I would be lynched, I just told them that, as in "Don't count your chickens before they're hatched." A common idiom, not a signal.

Just like how I interpreted Golden's comment about cheap rope as an indication that he was Hector.

I thought lc was hinting at hector as well. For other comments. what I really want to know is why inh went after lc so hard, that was confusing.

I thought everyone would know I was Poe after the soneji kill.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:

DFaraday wrote: Soup has been killed by Sunny and Esme.
LoRab has been killed by Mr. Poe.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Lot's of civilian kills last night. But hey! It beats a modkill.

How do you know soup was a civilian?

This is the hint I was talking about.

Oh, I completely read that as a tongue in cheek joke, since mm obviously meant the killers not the victims.

Golden wrote:

Soneji wrote:The lesson here is that different mindsets for scumhunting will always get me suspected on this site. My reasoning was sound and I was right in that Zebra was a baddie trying to push lynches on false pretenses, yet Golden found my logic suspicious.

And I also thought your sprit vote looked like a bus.

I made a case on Glorf before basically anyone else on d1, sig just jumped ahead D2.

Maybe you just have a sixth sense for me.

Golden wrote:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:

DFaraday wrote: Soup has been killed by Sunny and Esme.
LoRab has been killed by Mr. Poe.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Lot's of civilian kills last night. But hey! It beats a modkill.

How do you know soup was a civilian?

This is the hint I was talking about.

Oh, I completely read that as a tongue in cheek joke, since mm obviously meant the killers not the victims.

Same here.

Maybe it was too obscure.

This game had me doing the most out of thread analysis I've ever done. I knew that I was near the top of the hitlist on any mafia team, and that they knew that I knew who they were. So, I attempted to find scum by simply examining how people treated the two confirmed baddies that I knew about- Nacho and Zebra. Most of my efforts in this game went towards filling out a spreadsheet and noting any interaction anyone ever had with either two confirmed bad guys. Just by cross-analyzing, I was pretty sure DDL was civ, so naturally, I found LC a tad bit suspicious. I went after him hard even though I was only 75% convinced, with the logic that if I'm completely wrong, the baddies will rule me out for being Klaus, which would help me stay alive longer. My entire goal was to not get NK'd. I would've even welcomed being lynched, to be honest. Then I could drop some obvious-in-hindsight hints.

I went through so much reverse-psychology mental gymnastics with my approach. It was all WIFOM central. Aaaand then I got NK'd N3 by a redirected vigilante. Such is mafia.

Elo, did you have an inkling that I was Klaus, and Golden was Mr. Poe, (still laughing at that name-based irony) or was that luck?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:This was probably the best all-around game I've seen from sig. He was on point, assertive, and didn't even suffer the kind of random suspicion he often seems to attract.

It was great seeing the mix of characters in this game, from long-time Syndicate veterans, to players who've been around a while but not necessarily played often, and to brand new faces from elsewhere on the Internet. I hope y'all stick around and play some more games with us.

Nacho, I still need to play a non-hydra game with you as agreed.

This was sig's best post in the game.

sig wrote:@Dom be a dear and when you get the chance tell me what you think of MM, Zebra, Wilgy, and Eloh?

I'm in the process of narrowing down some mafia members and would like other peoples thoughts.

@DDL I see your back, start chatting in thread or I might start thinking you're a baddie with BTSC.

He unwittingly called out our entire team in a single sentence.

insertnamehere wrote:... Golden was Mr. Poe, (still laughing at that name-based irony) ...

I don't get the name-based irony, explain!

Long Con wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:... Golden was Mr. Poe, (still laughing at that name-based irony) ...

I don't get the name-based irony, explain!

We've had some disagreements in the past over the POE strategy, so Golden (inadvertently) killing me via Mr. Poe seemed sort of poetic in a way.

Predict, Observe, Explain?

insertnamehere wrote:

Long Con wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:... Golden was Mr. Poe, (still laughing at that name-based irony) ...

I don't get the name-based irony, explain!

We've had some disagreements in the past over the POE strategy, so Golden (inadvertently) killing me via Mr. Poe seemed sort of poetic in a way.

So, so ironic! It never even occurred to me!

DF, you want banners made?

Long Con wrote:DF, you want banners made?

If you could, thank you kind sir.

Just pointing out that the Sugar Bowl was introduced late in the game, caused a lot of pandemonium, and had nothing at all to do with endgame. Just like in the books.

DFaraday wrote:Just pointing out that the Sugar Bowl was introduced late in the game, caused a lot of pandemonium, and had nothing at all to do with endgame. Just like in the books.

Lc, who did you role check?

Night 1: Golden
Night 2: DDL
Night 3: Epi (roleblocked)
Night 4: Elohcin
Night 5: Epi (almost Dom)

Long Con wrote:Night 1: Golden
Night 2: DDL
Night 3: Epi (roleblocked)
Night 4: Elohcin
Night 5: Epi (almost Dom)

Night 3 was me.

You protected Epignosis, which stopped my rolecheck?

That doesn't jive, my rolecheck would have helped Epi.

If I could have gotten Epi out of the way night 3, and checked Dom Night 5, he wouldn't have OMGUS voted me and I could have survived.

Long Con wrote:You protected Epignosis, which stopped my rolecheck?

That doesn't jive, my rolecheck would have helped Epi.

Ok I am probably wrong. Not sure what protect does.

Snow Dog wrote:

Long Con wrote:You protected Epignosis, which stopped my rolecheck?

That doesn't jive, my rolecheck would have helped Epi.

Ok I am probably wrong. Not sure what protect does.

Geez, that's kind of irresponsible of you. Always read the instructions.

Long Con wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Long Con wrote:You protected Epignosis, which stopped my rolecheck?

That doesn't jive, my rolecheck would have helped Epi.

Ok I am probably wrong. Not sure what protect does.

Geez, that's kind of irresponsible of you. Always read the instructions.

Well I know it'd protect him, from a kill for example.

...and THAT was all I was concerned about (the backstabbing bastard!)

Snow Dog wrote:...and THAT was all I was concerned about (the backstabbing bastard!)

You won though.

Epignosis wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:...and THAT was all I was concerned about (the backstabbing bastard!)

You won though.

I honestly don't feel I deserved it with my lack of actually being here. My worst game for participation ever! Well I know I can't play at Christmas again.

Long Con wrote:If I could have gotten Epi out of the way night 3, and checked Dom Night 5, he wouldn't have OMGUS voted me and I could have survived.

why wouldn't i have voted you?

Talk about bad luck though. DrWilgy and zebra were nightkilled by the other mafia team, and I was nightkilled by the guy who has a 33% chance of successfully killing his target.

I didn't get to use my role ability at all. Being Esme, I would have easily survived the first lynch against me based on the number of votes. And also, my secrets said if I was the last remaining member of my team alive, I would switch and join Count Olaf's team. Unfortunately, zebra and I were killed at the same time.

Long Con wrote:You protected Epignosis, which stopped my rolecheck?

That doesn't jive, my rolecheck would have helped Epi.

Sorsha blocked you.

DFaraday wrote:

Long Con wrote:You protected Epignosis, which stopped my rolecheck?

That doesn't jive, my rolecheck would have helped Epi.

Sorsha blocked you.

Sorsha wrote:

DFaraday wrote:

Long Con wrote:You protected Epignosis, which stopped my rolecheck?

That doesn't jive, my rolecheck would have helped Epi.

Sorsha blocked you.

Evil bitch!

Dom wrote:

Long Con wrote:If I could have gotten Epi out of the way night 3, and checked Dom Night 5, he wouldn't have OMGUS voted me and I could have survived.

why wouldn't i have voted you?

Well, the only thing you really had against me was the way I was going after you. If I had been sure you were Civ and supporting that, I have little doubt you would have for someone else that day.

"I am sorry to say that Mr. Poe had not done a very good job so far, and that the Baudelaires had learned that the only thing they could rely on with Mr. Poe was that he always had a cough." - The Ersatz Elevator, pg. 4

Lemony Snicket didn't recognize Mr. Poe's rampaging potential.

I am sorry to my scumbuddies and the rest of the players for all of my low access woes; I'm typically not a person to miss the vote that many times but when we were in Florida I didn't have the chance to be around then even when I thought I was and when I got back home I passed out exhausted twice more than I hoped I would >.>

This was certainly not a game with a lot of luck on the scum side; boo on us for killing baddies two times but I guess that's not completely unexpected when we didn't pick our kills the way we should have, and Golden zeroing on Soneji instantly and Sig zeroing on Glorfindel certainly created some remarkably awkward situations.

I very much enjoyed playing with you all; I mostly just hope that my next scum game here is more of a glorious rampage of death and destruction as opposed to whatever this scum game was.

Nachomamma8 wrote: I am sorry to my scumbuddies and the rest of the players for all of my low access woes; I'm typically not a person to miss the vote that many times but when we were in Florida I didn't have the chance to be around then even when I thought I was and when I got back home I passed out exhausted twice more than I hoped I would >.>

This was certainly not a game with a lot of luck on the scum side; boo on us for killing baddies two times but I guess that's not completely unexpected when we didn't pick our kills the way we should have, and Golden zeroing on Soneji instantly and Sig zeroing on Glorfindel certainly created some remarkably awkward situations.

I very much enjoyed playing with you all; I mostly just hope that my next scum game here is more of a glorious rampage of death and destruction as opposed to whatever this scum game was.

It was great playing with you too nacho! Even if you did nightkill half of my teammates.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Nachomamma8 wrote: I am sorry to my scumbuddies and the rest of the players for all of my low access woes; I'm typically not a person to miss the vote that many times but when we were in Florida I didn't have the chance to be around then even when I thought I was and when I got back home I passed out exhausted twice more than I hoped I would >.>

This was certainly not a game with a lot of luck on the scum side; boo on us for killing baddies two times but I guess that's not completely unexpected when we didn't pick our kills the way we should have, and Golden zeroing on Soneji instantly and Sig zeroing on Glorfindel certainly created some remarkably awkward situations.

I very much enjoyed playing with you all; I mostly just hope that my next scum game here is more of a glorious rampage of death and destruction as opposed to whatever this scum game was.

It was great playing with you too nacho! Even if you did nightkill half of my teammates.

Looking forward to playing with you again Nacho.
Wouldn't it have been awkward if you did join their team, seeing how they killed half of your buddies.