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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:10 pm
by Hally
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:06 pm
Like fuck, now you’re scumreading me
for being correct and very likely solving the game
What kind of roadrunner painted on a side of the cliff tunnel bullshit is this
even if i ignore that amy’s peek on tutuu is very likely clearing, i think she’s town on play
i don’t think wolf!tutuu would admit that she lied about her peek. i think she’d try to spin it as me being a wolf who redirected her to myself
i also find her whole play these past few phases insanely villagery
i’m pocketed if she’s a wolf. i don’t think so
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:12 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I’m literally sitting here giving you the solve while tutu fucks around and tries to false clear themself and you’re just going “no nanook you’re too correct, no townie could be that correct, fuck you you’re mafia”
You’re like the captcha things in John mulaney’s bit, going “that solve is too correct, wouldn’t you say? No townie can make that solve!”
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:13 pm
by tutuu
and to think i talked so much shit to u hally for not scumreading amy when u were fully correct not to
god im so cringe. ill still try my best to win. u didnt deserve anything i told u hally. wish i could go back in time and shut my stupid mouth
im not feeling the Darkest Dungeon positive breakdown (Courage, Valor etc) im feeling (Depression, Sadness) but ill still try
i have 1 post left iirc. gonna save it. decent chance i miscounted and this is my last post. who knows maybe i dont even know how to count. fully plausible
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:14 pm
by Hally
i actually believe town!tutuu could be so tunneled in her view of amy/me as wolves that she would fake a red peek if she didn’t get one out of fear i redirected her
i wish she had told the truth so i wouldn’t have to make a judgment call like this, but that’s what i think
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:14 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I guess it would be fairly karmic for me to lose a crushing f3 to cause my other town won’t pay attention in a TSP game after he’s lost that way in two of mine kek
Still fucking annoying tbh
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:17 pm
by Hally
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:14 pm
I guess it would be fairly karmic for me to lose a crushing f3 to cause my other town won’t pay attention in a TSP game after he’s lost that way in two of mine kek
Still fucking annoying tbh
nanook i just realized your solve is still mechanically impossible
if tutuu is a wolf jailkeeper and jailed me so she could kill nut amy would have gotten a result on me
amy’s peek on me failed. how could amy and i both get jailed on the same night? not possible
wolf!tutuu still mechanically ruled out
other ideas?
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:19 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:17 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:14 pm
I guess it would be fairly karmic for me to lose a crushing f3 to cause my other town won’t pay attention in a TSP game after he’s lost that way in two of mine kek
Still fucking annoying tbh
nanook i just realized your solve is still mechanically impossible
if tutuu is a wolf jailkeeper and jailed me so she could kill nut amy would have gotten a result on me
amy’s peek on me failed. how could amy and i both get jailed on the same night? not possible
wolf!tutuu still mechanically ruled out
other ideas?
Look up what a jailkeeper does please
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:20 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Inb4 you scumread me for knowing how a JK works too

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:20 pm
by Hally
if wolf tutuu jails me to stop my redirect and kill nut, amy gets a result on me
if wolf tutuu jails amy to stop her from peeking me, my redirect goes through and nut doesn’t die
these are mutually exclusive in a wolf!tutuu world, yet both happened
tutuu still lock clear
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:22 pm
by Hally
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:19 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:17 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:14 pm
I guess it would be fairly karmic for me to lose a crushing f3 to cause my other town won’t pay attention in a TSP game after he’s lost that way in two of mine kek
Still fucking annoying tbh
nanook i just realized your solve is still mechanically impossible
if tutuu is a wolf jailkeeper and jailed me so she could kill nut amy would have gotten a result on me
amy’s peek on me failed. how could amy and i both get jailed on the same night? not possible
wolf!tutuu still mechanically ruled out
other ideas?
Look up what a jailkeeper does please
do jailkeeps stop peeks on the jailed person from going through? that isn’t standard where i’m from. they just block the jailed person’s actions but the jailed person can still be peeked
hang on, will confirm
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:22 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Jailkeepers stop actions on their target dude
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:23 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Every Jk I’ve played with has worked that way AFAIK

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:26 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
recall that this is, in fact, a light game. By my count Hally is out of posts, tutuu has one left, and nanook has seven left. please hold to this
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:55 pm
by tutuu
my final allowed post
i brainstormed a bit and nanook can't be pure mafia jailkeeper
if he jailkept me on n5 i wouldnt have received my peek
if he jailkept hally, then hally doesnt redirect me to amy, and my peek on nanook proceeds to resole, but the result i was given was "italian"
if he jailkept amy, then i wouldnt have gotten my peek, since hally redirected me to amy
if he holstered, it doesnt explain why amy didnt receive feedback from her targetting hally
so like, maybe he could be cycling jailkeeper/roleblocker a la alison
idk. im too dumb for mafia
[mention]Long Con[/mention] im sorry i failed u scooby lmao
tommorrow its gonna be you, the designated misyeet (me) (since i faked a red peek on town!amy and got her killed) and whoever is the last mafia
pls dont snap vote me tommorrow and like give me a chance or something
nanook if ur the town in f3 tommorrow ... can i ask u to pls give me a chance aswell and not snap vote me? even tho i played like poop
can u believe in a world where im town and did all of the atrocities i did?
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:08 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I’ll give you a chance to convince me it’s LC, sure. I’m pretty convinced Hally is town tbh, and I’m pretty confident in my solve. So it’ll be a very uphill battle but you deserve the chance to present an argument, sure

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:29 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
*reserved for flavor*
Hally has been killed! They were
Confucius - TOWN!
Tutuu has been killed! She was
Bertrand Russell - TOWN!
game's over wolves win smh
I mean
Nanook has achieved his win condition! He was
Socrates of the School of Athens.
Additionally, Long Con has achieved his win condition! Well actually he didn't but he wins anyways for reasons I'll explain when I post the full post-game mod write up. He was
Late Wittgenstein, Neutral Self-Aligned.
CONGRATULATIONS TO THE WINNERS! [mention]colonialbob[/mention] [mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] [mention]KZA[/mention] [mention]Master Radishes[/mention] [mention]Long Con[/mention]
And consolations to the losers of course as well!
Please post your memes at this time and direct all questions comments and complaints to the host. Please refrain from flaming others for their poor play. Instead flame the host for light role madness ha ha mafia self day vig etc.
I will post all 17 roles and all hidden secrets as soon as I find the time, and I will additionally share my own thoughts, or at least the ones that cannot be found in the spec chat:
https://discord.gg/QuBRen
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 6]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:31 pm
by Amy
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:31 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Gg guys and gals
The day vig could only be used on mafia kek
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:32 pm
by Epignosis
I was Daniel Dennett, American, School of Determinism.

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:35 pm
by Hally
gg
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:36 pm
by iaafr
very interesting and cool setup
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:36 pm
by iaafr
ggwp
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:37 pm
by Timsup2nothin
GG all.
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 4]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:37 pm
by iaafr
iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:48 am
maybe the sole purpose of amys role was to misclear nanook
Amy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:50 am
rabbit what the flying fuck are you doing
i understand you can't answer this question but jesus christ dude
19/30
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:39 pm
by Hally
what happened the night before? i redirected tutuu to amy, so she got italian
but then amy was blocked? so no jailkeep, just a roleblocker plus day vig?
and you just blocked amy and let me redirect tutuu?
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 4]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:39 pm
by Amy
iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:37 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:48 am
maybe the sole purpose of amys role was to misclear nanook
Amy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:50 am
rabbit what the flying fuck are you doing
i understand you can't answer this question but jesus christ dude
19/30
in my defense
apparently all the wolves peeked as Yes
there just happened to be only one left, and he just happened to be the only italian claim in the game
i apologize if anything i said towards you was overly harsh but i was sincerely baffled at how you were scumreading me for literally the entire game
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:40 pm
by iaafr
i mean i had moments of doubt
and that one especially was one where i was living in a v!amy w!nanook possibility
but yeah i mean
yeah
mechanics
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:41 pm
by Amy
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:39 pm
what happened the night before? i redirected tutuu to amy, so she got italian
but then amy was blocked? so no jailkeep, just a roleblocker plus day vig?
and you just blocked amy and let me redirect tutuu?
tutuu manually targeted me
so probably either you were the one JK'd, or the JK only stopped killing actions from affecting the target and nanook was bullshitting to say otherwise
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:41 pm
by iaafr
(like i was imagining your role being a town role that misclears nanook for no reason)
(it was a half joke but lmfao it was actually right)
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:42 pm
by Hally
i correctly figured out amy’s peek on nanook wasn’t clearing at least and that tutuu actually was peeked clear by amy
and also that nanook Knew Too Much
but then i doubted myself after i ran out of posts and redirected tutuu to nanook instead of the other way, which is potentially what ended the game?
idk man
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:43 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:42 pm
i correctly figured out amy’s peek on nanook wasn’t clearing at least and that tutuu actually was peeked clear by amy
and also that nanook Knew Too Much
but then i doubted myself after i ran out of posts and redirected tutuu to nanook instead of the other way, which is potentially what ended the game?
idk man
nanook to LC gives you a chance.
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:44 pm
by Hally
Amy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:41 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:39 pm
what happened the night before? i redirected tutuu to amy, so she got italian
but then amy was blocked? so no jailkeep, just a roleblocker plus day vig?
and you just blocked amy and let me redirect tutuu?
tutuu manually targeted me
so probably either you were the one JK'd, or the JK only stopped killing actions from affecting the target and nanook was bullshitting to say otherwise
no tutuu said she manually targeted nanook. so my redirect went through. i don’t think there was a jailkeeper. probably just a roleblocker. idk
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:45 pm
by iaafr
i really really hate buscredit roles now
im gonna instayeet the next player in one of my games who dayvigs scum and im gonna get universally roasted when theyre actually town
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:45 pm
by Amy
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:42 pm
i correctly figured out amy’s peek on nanook wasn’t clearing at least and that tutuu actually was peeked clear by amy
and also that nanook Knew Too Much
but then i doubted myself after i ran out of posts and redirected tutuu to nanook instead of the other way, which is potentially what ended the game?
idk man
had to be exactly nanook to LC and winning the 1/5 die roll
cause tsp's a dweeb who wouldn't allow the 1-1-1 f3
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:45 pm
by Hally
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:43 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:42 pm
i correctly figured out amy’s peek on nanook wasn’t clearing at least and that tutuu actually was peeked clear by amy
and also that nanook Knew Too Much
but then i doubted myself after i ran out of posts and redirected tutuu to nanook instead of the other way, which is potentially what ended the game?
idk man
nanook to LC gives you a chance.
oh so even if i redirected nanook to tutuu we still lose? how? i’m confused lol
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:45 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:39 pm
what happened the night before? i redirected tutuu to amy, so she got italian
but then amy was blocked? so no jailkeep, just a roleblocker plus day vig?
and you just blocked amy and let me redirect tutuu?
I was a two shot JK, I got a third shot as compensation for the modkill
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:46 pm
by iaafr
i mean ill be blunt this setup sucked shit sorry not gonna mince my thoughts
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:46 pm
by Hally
Amy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:45 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:42 pm
i correctly figured out amy’s peek on nanook wasn’t clearing at least and that tutuu actually was peeked clear by amy
and also that nanook Knew Too Much
but then i doubted myself after i ran out of posts and redirected tutuu to nanook instead of the other way, which is potentially what ended the game?
idk man
had to be exactly nanook to LC and winning the 1/5 die roll
cause tsp's a dweeb who wouldn't allow the 1-1-1 f3
oh
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:46 pm
by iaafr
even if we won i'd think that; i guarantee it
just completely unfun to play with this much mech and postcap and maj enabled
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:47 pm
by Timsup2nothin
Get it out of your system Rabbit. That's what we're here for.
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:47 pm
by iaafr
TonyStarkPrime wrote:Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:49 pm
Jean-Jacques Rousseau - TOWN:
A citizen of Geneva
Political Philosophy
You are the town tiebreaker. If there is a tied vote count at the end of the day, you will be responsible for choosing the victim of the guillotine that day.
Decisions, decisions: You may note that right now the rules say that “ties in day polls will be decided randomly”. You can change the text to whatever you wish (that fulfills the purpose of answering the question how are ties decided), but if you choose to do so you may not mention any part of your own role and you may never claim to be able to break ties. You will be given a suitable fake claim should you choose this option. Finally, if you do so, your entire role card will be revealed upon your death.
like i said if all the roles were on this tier of power, the game mightve actually been fun
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:48 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I enjoyed it
The amount of mech stuff tho was uh
Pretty surprising!
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:48 pm
by Timsup2nothin
I will confess that I was consistently thankful for being dead.
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:48 pm
by iaafr
i would have enjoyed it a lot more if i were on the scumteam yes
especially if i had your role
very valid opinion
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:48 pm
by Hally
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:45 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:39 pm
what happened the night before? i redirected tutuu to amy, so she got italian
but then amy was blocked? so no jailkeep, just a roleblocker plus day vig?
and you just blocked amy and let me redirect tutuu?
I was a two shot JK, I got a third shot as compensation for the modkill
but who did you target? how did tutuu peek you but get amy’s result? the reason i doubted myself and thought it could be her again was because i didn’t think it was possible she was being truthful about her result if she targeted you like she said. or that it actually cleared you to her. idk
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:49 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:46 pm
even if we won i'd think that; i guarantee it
just completely unfun to play with this much mech and postcap and maj enabled
yeah you're definitely right on postcap / maj. That was an error. I couldn't change it midgame but it's something to keep in mind for future light games.
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:50 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Tutu peeled me and got my godfather result kek
I blocked you and that’s why Amy failed
I was serious that every JK I’ve ever played with worked that way AFAIK
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:50 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:48 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:45 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:39 pm
what happened the night before? i redirected tutuu to amy, so she got italian
but then amy was blocked? so no jailkeep, just a roleblocker plus day vig?
and you just blocked amy and let me redirect tutuu?
I was a two shot JK, I got a third shot as compensation for the modkill
but who did you target? how did tutuu peek you but get amy’s result? the reason i doubted myself and thought it could be her again was because i didn’t think it was possible she was being truthful about her result if she targeted you like she said. or that it actually cleared you to her. idk
this'll be explained when I post the roles. Short answer: nanook was actually copped and had a semi-godfather role. I was glad that this didn't come up based on claims, because town had managed to confuse itself on mechanics too much already
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:50 pm
by Timsup2nothin
That said my role was really cool and fun so thanks for that TSP!
Re: Philosophers' Mafia [ENDGAME]
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:51 pm
by iaafr
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:50 pm
Tutu peeled me and got my godfather result kek
I blocked you and that’s why Amy failed
I was serious that every JK I’ve ever played with worked that way AFAIK
jk that prevents actions from working on the target is conventionally called "alien" or "jailor"
"conventional" jk is almost always roleblock + doc specifically ime