The Syndicate

Night 3 ends at 7:00PM EST on Friday, November 4. Please have any night actions submitted by 30 minutes prior to Night ending.

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Day 4 ends at 7:00PM EST on Sunday, November 6.

FREEDOM

okay hi we can talk now

So three people die because of forced lovers

I'm thinking rn that DZ is killed SK and Windward by Mafia

idk

I feel forced to kill IBA tbh

So does anyone not think we should kill Doom and if so why

SK NEVER KILLING MAFIA

WELCOME TO WHY MOST SK PLAYERS SUCK

LEL

bro, my three top town died just like that

Alright, so according to the OP, we started as a 16 vs. 4 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1

As of now, we're in F10, 2 Mafia dead, Colin is known-3P, Creature's 3P rolestealer is still out there, which leaves 2 mafia + another 3P unaccounted for entirely

so 5-2-1-1-1 if I'm getting it correct. If Creature was mafia, then it's 5-3-1-1

Valentine is town

Snow, what did you do last night?

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:19 pm Valentine is town

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:19 pm Valentine is town

As was extremely obvious, she was propped up as the designated chop D1 to push instead of Guillo to protect him before he got piled on

Really nice to have it confirmed though, which narrows the PoE further

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:19 pm Alright, so according to the OP, we started as a 16 vs. 4 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1

As of now, we're in F10, 2 Mafia dead, Colin is known-3P, Creature's 3P rolestealer is still out there, which leaves 2 mafia + another 3P unaccounted for entirely

so 5-2-1-1-1 if I'm getting it correct. If Creature was mafia, then it's 5-3-1-1 6-2-1-1

EBWOP

I neighborized Dz so I don’t have anybody today

risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:19 pm bro, my three top town died just like that

God I hate this post so much

Yes the mechanically cleared town were everyone’s top town that’s why they’re dead thanks

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:23 pm I neighborized Dz so I don’t have anybody today

So that’s three nights in a row where you neighborized the person most likely to die

Are you lying about your role or just really bad at this

Chelsea - conf not-mafia per Wind/DZ's results last round showing her being targeted by w!Mung
ColinIsCool - outed 3P
DaughterOfOmega - 2x slank vig per claim
IBA
Inawordyes
Le petit poussin - Proxy Cop per Wind/DZ's results last round
LordQuas
risiinq-
Sabiplz - green check per proxy cop results given to Chelsea
Schiavetto
Valentine - day vote canceler, conf town per Colin

DoOm, IBA, Iawy, Quas, Risii, Schia = PoE, we need to kill within this group of 6 as it contains both remaining mafia and more than likely the third missing 3P. I do not volunteer myself as tribute, but such is life and it's gonna come up regardless as I am as equally on the table as everybody else

IBA wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:18 pm So does anyone not think we should kill Doom and if so why

There were 4 kill attempts night one.

Mafia, SK, HK were three of them.

I am claiming the fourth.

Nobody else has claimed this kill.

To push me you'd have to say that mafia have a 2-shot vig on top of their factional, and they could skip a day lynch.

Numbers wouldn't make sense.

I'm mech conf town

Like two people have talked about killing me already

INAW is a good player. No way he doesn't realize Im mech cleared

My guess would be that IBA is likely the SK

and INAW/Rising/Quas/Schiavetto are mafia

There's a world where we leave alive the SK, but I can't trust them to hit mafia

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:27 pm Like two people have talked about killing me already

INAW is a good player. No way he doesn't realize Im mech cleared

I have absolutely no intentions of killing you today yet. I stress that with italics only because I should be content-cleared myself, but we both reside in the PoE all the same

This is role madness, your role doesn't automatically make you town even though there's a high percentage. All I care about right now is mechanical and resolving the PoE, but you are not the focus of my attention right now and I am more than fine to let the probabilities sit and look elsewhere for now

If that sounds like a sucky answer that you don't agree with, , I'm not trying to be agreeable, I'm trying to win

I want to hear from Schia, Snow and Quas

This power is neither particularly helpful and I don’t expect to clear me, but since I’m on a strict time limit and may have to claim it later:

Stop. Hammer Time

@Marmot @MacDougall

Using this power before claiming it I find rand scum tbh

but will think about it more

My flavor isn’t actually MC Hammer for some fucked reason, presumably because the mods are hipsters that hate fun

Anyway hammer rules are in effect today

Majority is now in effect today. With 10 players alive, if any player reaches 6 votes, the day ends immediately, the game will enter Night 4, and that player is killed.

Mungbean wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:32 am Working on the premise that a wolf likely hopped on the end of the Guillo wagon, these votes merit inspection:

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:11 pm @hollowkatt Sorry pal, I had doubts for a hot minute. RIP. GOAT.

Meanwhile,

[VOTE: Guillotine] aubergine

Valentine wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:13 pm [VOTE: guillotine] aubergine

weeeee

Creature also voted for Guillo after it became clear that they were virtually beyond saving, but as we don't know what happened to that role it's not much use to speculate on that.

I'm going to ISO Le petit as I barely remember any of their posts.

Mungbean wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:44 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:51 pm [VOTE: hollowkatt] aubergine

I don't like the timing of this unexplained vote. Things could very well have switched up in the directed of hollowkatt around this time, and dropping an unexplained vote here isn't a good look.

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:57 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:51 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:50 pm I don't trust le petit raskol at all hm.

I kinda dont like him cuz he was on valentine wagon then nonchalantly swapped when the wagon died off. If Guillo flips scum ill just feel like he just bussed him for cred.

I just saw the wagon growth, like Nut and Sabi, and tryed a bait vote on HK to see what I could get out of it. Then HK posted some bad posts in reply to nut (didn't like the "how about no") and then he died. I liked Valentine's replies to my inquiries so didn't feel to start yet another wagon. Just sheep on Guillo.

TBH good job as a wolf to be so visible if some wolf pal is about to die lol.

Also not particularly sold on this explanation. Maybe it was a "bait vote" but if so it was a very late-game attempt. The last line with the "lol" is totally something I could see a wolf saying when they realise their late-game actions look wolfy.

Mungbean wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:46 am I've talked myself into a scum-read on Le petit so I'm going to lay down my marker there for the time being while I explore alternatives.

[VOTE: Le petit poussin] aubergine

Mung pushed Petit yesterday while he was commuted and couldn't defend himself, as well as continuing on the Val train. Val is conf now but obv a good look for Petit too

Sweet, majority is enabled

That isn't going to be abused in any way, shape or form, nosiree

This is literally worse for town in every sense.

LMAO

Imagine not claiming it and discussing whether or not this should be used today

So awful

There are possibly more non town in the game, and we make the game hammerable

seems like the best thing

It confirms IBA is not SK at least

pog

Like is that possibly a town role?

Sure.

Is it worse for town objectively?

Yes.

Does it make me want to kill IBA nonethless?

Yes.

Chelsea - 1x BP
ColinIsCool - 3P Neighborizer
DaughterOfOmega - 2x Slank Vig
IBA - Hammer-Enabler(role name?)
Inawordyes
Le petit poussin - Proxy Cop
LordQuas - Motivator
risiinq-
Schiavetto
Valentine - Day Vote Canceler

Roles known:

Mafia Factional NK

2x slank kill DoOm) - claimed D3
Proxy Cop (Petit) - seen by DZ targeting Nutella, Wind saw Petit who is the only unaccounted-for player
3P Neighborizer (Colin) - claimed D1, both he and his role were seen collectively by DZ/Wind targeting Nutella
Majority-Enabler (IBA) - see above
Town Day Vote Canceler (Val) - role + alignment confirmed to Colin through targeting actions
Motivator (Quas) - claimed D3
1X BP (Chelsea) - Wind had her results duplicated by motivator, got two sets of results from Nutella target. Chelsea (who Nutella targeted as evidenced by the following) was shot directly and survived, shot on Chelsea was missing in second set of results. Confirmed role with Wind D3

Unexplained second KP - consistently killed every night alongside Mafia NK
Unexplained Kidnapper - silenced Petit D3

So, assuming IBA doesn't have any other elements to his role, there's 3 players and two known-but-unexplainable roles that have had their actions publicly seen in some way shape or form. If I'm missing anything or misattributed roles to the wrong player, please correct me. Otherwise, not looking so hot for Schia and Snow

The interesting thing about the Chelsea shot is that we still have 3 flips that night, which means there's a third KP that's unaccounted for that appears to only have been able to shoot once (and either missed, if targeting Chelsea, or shot one of the other players who did die)

Chelsea is basically conf town from that alone, which means it likely a Mafia or 3P KP as well unless someone wants to fess up and take responsibility for the Chelsea shot or one of the other 3 who did flip

Snow is frozen, ironic

Again assuming nobody has more elements to their role beyond what's been claimed and/or publicly seen in-thread, I know that I'm town so FMPOV Schia and Risii are just outed as non-town because someone has to be carrying the second KP that's only been killing townies, and someone has to been the kidnapping power that silenced Petit yesterday. However, that still leaves either a second mafia or the 3P unaccounted for, plus the shot at Chelsea - unless there is a non-town JOAT that vig'd Chelsea N1 and Silenced Petit N2, in which case the two are one in the same. Would potentially make sense given SPOILER

which puts that third player, again FMPOV, as being inside IBA/DoOm/Quas. I am the easy owner of that for everybody else, so I'm gonna ask you all to independently do your own research and prove to yourself whether you believe it's not me since I can't force you to trust me, but regardless I know it's not me so that forces my mind into that group again

If there is a JOAT that shot N1, and the JOAT is 3P, then Chelsea is potentially back on the table as she is only conftown if we can confirm/guarantee that the attempted kill on her that Wind saw came from one the Mafia NK - but that is a slippery slope of a rabbit hole that I have no intention of going down while we have a clear PoE to work within

Really would appreciate not just talking to myself ITT, we need to solve this ASAP while we have the ability

Rereading Creature's flip, the 3P who killed him takes his role and alignment, so I'm going to go ahead and assume that you're now basically functionally town or mafia and there's no extra wincon of surviving to the end and winning separately from your chosen faction

Which is to say, if you're still alive and Creature was town, it would be nice if you'd out so that we can confirm we have a townie rather than a surrogate mafia. Not gonna advocate for that though, you do your own thing. Just kinda throwing all my thoughts out there

@risiinq-

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:44 pm There are possibly more non town in the game, and we make the game hammerable

seems like the best thing

Not sure that that is possible, but wouldn’t we lose in that scenario anyway

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:19 pm Alright, so according to the OP, we started as a 16 vs. 4 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1

As of now, we're in F10, 2 Mafia dead, Colin is known-3P, Creature's 3P rolestealer is still out there, which leaves 2 mafia + another 3P unaccounted for entirely

so 5-2-1-1-1 if I'm getting it correct. If Creature was mafia, then it's 5-3-1-1

if creature was town its 6-2-1-1

IBA wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:41 pm My flavor isn’t actually MC Hammer for some fucked reason, presumably because the mods are hipsters that hate fun

Anyway hammer rules are in effect today

that is severely fucked up

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:43 pm This is literally worse for town in every sense.

LMAO

Imagine not claiming it and discussing whether or not this should be used today

So awful

Other reasons I wouldn’t be asking your opinion aside, I have to use it in the first hour of the day. There isn’t time to poll the group

LordQuas wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:15 pm

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:19 pm Alright, so according to the OP, we started as a 16 vs. 4 vs. 1 vs. 1 vs. 1

As of now, we're in F10, 2 Mafia dead, Colin is known-3P, Creature's 3P rolestealer is still out there, which leaves 2 mafia + another 3P unaccounted for entirely

so 5-2-1-1-1 if I'm getting it correct. If Creature was mafia, then it's 5-3-1-1

if creature was town its 6-2-1-1

If there’s 4 scum and then 2 dead scum then there’s 2 living scum no matter what Creature was, right?