Death Note Mafia [END]

#3801

H would give us X for line 16 so I retract that one

#3802

1) ...that ~~~ ~~~~ Snowman ~~~~ the game ~~~ a~~~ the existence of secret win conditions. (MQRXAK)

#3803

zeek wrote:1) ...that ~~~ ~~~~ Snowman ~~~~ the game ~~~ adds the existence of secret win conditions. (MQRXAK)

#3804

I will reveal one more letter.

#3805

D should be a winner.

#3806

D it is.

#3807

Give us the D MP we want it so bad.

#3808

Updated Snowman's Note (Final Part):

...~~z~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~lz~ ~~~~ ~~d ~zld ~~~ z~~~ ~~d dw~~~d~~d ~~ ~d~qd~ ~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~. ~p~ ~~~q~ ~~l ~~l~~~~~lq ~~~ ~ljw q~~p~~q z~w~l~ ~~~~ ~q z~~l~ p~~~~j~~? ~lq ~~~q~. Pd~~~ w~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~~p~ pdwp ~~~j pd~ l~w~~~~ ~d~ ~~~~ ~~~~j pd~~~ ~~~~~ z~z j~p ~~~~~~~ ~j pd~~~ ~~~~ L~. ~~j~~z~ ~j~z ~d~~ z~p~d~~~z ~~d~ ~~~~z~, wp~ j~~~ j~~z ~~d~ ~j~z ~~~ wzz~ ~p~~~ ~j~qz~ ~~~ ~~z ~z~~ ~z~~z~ d~ ~~d~~z~z~. Q~~~~~~ z~l~~~l ~~~, q~~~ z~~~~q~ ~~ ~~~q~~~'~ l~~~ q~~ w~~~~~~~~. L~~~~~ p~~ ~~~w~~~~~: Q~~ ~~ ~~l ~ww~ ~dd ~wlw~l~~w~ ~w~~ l~ ~~~ lzw ~~~w. ~~~~lj~ p~l ~~~ j~ ~~~~~p, p~l ~~~~~p ~~~p ~~~~ ~~~l~ ~z~~ ~~ ~~~~~z~ ~zd w~~ p~l~ ~~~ wz~~~~z~~ ~~z~. ~~ ~~~ ~~q~ qj ~~q~j j~~~~ ~~d~~~~ j~~~~w~~~j j~~ wq~~ qd~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~d~~ ~~~~ jq~w~j, ~~~ ~qd ~~d ~~j~ qd~ j~q~. ~d ~~p~ p ~~~~w ~j~~~~~~j~~~, ~dj ~j~~: (~) p~wz~ ~~ ~~~~~~~~ ~~ ~~ ~~~ ~~~~ z~~q~ ~~~~~~ w~ ~ p~~~w~ (~w~~~~~ ~~w~~w~~ ~~z~ ~~~w~~ ~~z~~), (~) p~~~~~p~ ~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~l~~~ ~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~l~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~~~~~ l~~ ~~~~~q, (~) ~q ~zq ~~ ~~q ~~d~~ ~~~q ~~~~qd~ ~~ ~~~q ~~d ~~~~ ~qd~~z, ~zp (~) ~p~ ~~l~ ~wljp~ wj~~~p~. ~p ~~~~ p~~~d ~dd~wzd p~~~~, ~~~ ~~~ ~d~~~ ~~~~~ d~~d z~~~~~ ~~ ~~l~~~~~~d z~~~~~~, ~~ ~~~q ~~ ~~~ ~~d~~p~ d~~ p~~~d d~~ ~~~d~~~~. ~~ ~~~~ w~~ ~j~~~~ ~qj~ j~~pw~~w~ ~~ ~~~~ ~~d~ ~~wlq ~j~p~~ ~~. ~w~~~~~qw~ w~ ~pq~ ~~~~~~ ~zq~~~z~ ~p~ ~~~z~~ ~d~~~. ~~~~ ~~j~!

#3809

#3810

I haven't added the D's yet, but I gotta run.

1) ...that ~~~ when Snowman ~~~~ the game ~~~ adds the existence of secret win conditions. (MQRXAK)

2) Are these win conditions the only secrets beyond what is being revealed? (NRSYBL)

3) Not quite. (OSTZCM)

4) There are some role secrets that even the players who were given these roles did not receive in their role PM. (PTUADN)

5) Another role will elucidate ~~~~ ~~~~e~, but only once this note has been fully solved and the next secret is triggered. (QUVBEO)

6) Without further ado, what follows is Snowman's real win condition. (RVWCFP)

7) Secret win condition: (SWXDGQ)

8) You do not need all detectives dead to win the game. (TXYEHR)

9) Because you are so greedy, you really only talk about Kira to exploit him for your own financial gain. (UYZFIS)

10) If you lead at least three lynches throughout the game and successfully lynch your target, you can win with any team. (VZAGJT)

11) To lead a lynch successfully, you must: (WABHKU)

12) (1) build an argument as to say your lynch target is a baddie (~i~~~~~ ~~i~~i~~ ~~l~ ~~~i~~ ~~l~~), (XBCILV)

13) (2) convince at least three other players to vote for this player ~~~ ~~~ ~~~~~~~ you ~~~~~d, (YCDJMW)

14) (3) Be one of the first five players to vote for that person, and, (ZDEKNX)

15) (4) Get that player lynched. (AEFLOY)

16) If your first attempt fails, you can still lynch that player in subsequent periods, so long as you qualify the first day ~~~~~~~~. (BFGMPZ)

17) It does not matter what alignment or role your lynch target is. (CGHNQA)

18) Completion of this puzzle triggers the secret event. (DHIORB)

19) Good luck! (EIJPSC)

#3811

Shiiiiiit I was banking on MM doing all the heavy lifting there.

#3812

I just spent the last HOUR trying to catch up, you crazy people! But great job

I have no idea what's going on with this puzzle, but I'll try to get into things.

Sorry I haven't been here, but I'm not going to stay more than a few minutes. This is not going to be an active day for me, so I apologize.

I see most people are talking about TH as a lynch option. I don't see it at all. But I've been wrong, so I have no idea what to tell you. All the things llama brought up do not make me think he's bad. Flip flopping like he did doesn't mean bad, defending Snowman would worry me more if I weren't guilty of doing the same thing, and I am really not sure other baddies knew who he was, and the early votes just seem like something he has to do, or is more worthwhile to him then not looking suspicious, therefore it makes him more civ in my eyes.

The other talk is who would kill SVS and LC. I wouldn't, but I don't think anyone thinks I would, so not wasting time on that. But I need to look at the list again to think of who would

#3813

I'm interested in the early voting for TH, given the revelation that it was a mechanic for Snowman.

#3814

Turnip Head wrote:Shiiiiiit I was banking on MM doing all the heavy lifting there.

We could split the original message, but only add the d's in the incomplete sentences (if there is any new letter revealed) and shift it accordingly.

#3815

Epignosis wrote:I'm interested in the early voting for TH, given the revelation that it was a mechanic for Snowman.

What do you mean?

#3816

I think I got them all but I hope someone can doublecheck. Sadly we didn't get any hits for Line 12. If I didn't change anything it's because what we had still fits.

1) ...that ~~~ when Snowman ~~~~ the game ~~~ adds the existence of secret win conditions. (MQRXAKE)

2) Are these win conditions the only secrets beyond what is being revealed? (NRSYBL)

3) Not quite. (OSTZCM)

4) There are some role secrets that even the players who were given these roles did not receive in their role PM. (PTUADN)

5) Another role will elucidate ~~i~ ~~~~e~, but only once this note has been fully solved and the next secret is triggered. (QUVBEOI)

6) Without further ado, what follows is Snowman's real win condition. (RVWCFP)

7) Secret win condition: (SWXDGQ)

8) You do not need all detectives dead to win the game. (TXYEHR)

9) Because you are so greedy, you really only talk about Kira to exploit him for your own financial gain. (UYZFIS)

10) If you lead at least three lynches throughout the game and successfully lynch your target, you can win with any team. (VZAGJT)

11) To lead a lynch successfully, you must: (WABHKU)

12) (1) build an argument as to say your lynch target is a baddie (~i~~~~~ ~~i~~i~~ ~~l~ ~~~i~~ ~~l~~), (XBCILVP)

13) (2) convince at least three other players to vote for this player ~~~ ~~~ ~~~~~~~ you ~~~~~d, (YCDJMW)

14) (3) Be one of the first five players to vote for that person, and, (ZDEKNX)

15) (4) Get that player lynched. (AEFLOY)

16) If your first attempt fails, you can still lynch that player in subsequent periods, so long as you ~~t~~f~ the first t~~ ~~~t~~~~. (BFGMPZT)

17) It does not matter what alignment or role your lynch target is. (CGHNQA)

18) Completion of this puzzle triggers the secret event. (DHIORB)

19) Good luck! (EIJPSC)

#3817

FZ. wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I'm interested in the early voting for TH, given the revelation that it was a mechanic for Snowman.
What do you mean?

Line 14. Snowman had to be one of the first five people to vote. With the early voting, it makes me wonder if a similar mechanic is in Turnip Head's role (and MM's, while we're at it).

#3818

ARGHHH so in the lines which had nothing to reveal, I didn't update the (LETTERS REVEALED) at the end of the line, which I probably should have done just for reference.

#3819

Epignosis wrote:
FZ. wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I'm interested in the early voting for TH, given the revelation that it was a mechanic for Snowman.
What do you mean?
Line 14. Snowman had to be one of the first five people to vote. With the early voting, it makes me wonder if a similar mechanic is in Turnip Head's role (and MM's, while we're at it).

Oh, and didn't llama vote early too?

#3820

Turnip Head wrote:ARGHHH so in the lines which had nothing to reveal, I didn't update the (LETTERS REVEALED) at the end of the line, which I probably should have done just for reference.

Can you explain how this puzzle goes? Because I'm so slow at 1 am...

#3821

Beat me to it, TH, but you should add all the next revealed letters in all the brackets.

Not much help except for 16) as you can see.

#3822

FZ. wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:ARGHHH so in the lines which had nothing to reveal, I didn't update the (LETTERS REVEALED) at the end of the line, which I probably should have done just for reference.
Can you explain how this puzzle goes? Because I'm so slow at 1 am...

I can try.

MP gave it to us as a big block of text but he gave us the clue to "split it 19" so we split it based on punctuation into 19 lines. For each line, you shift the letter revealed (I'm using this) according to the Line Number. So for Line 1 you shift the revealed letter over 1 letter in the alphabet to get the actual letter.

#3823

9) Because you are so greedy, you really only care about Kira to exploit him for your own financial gain.

#3824

I'm so confused.

#3825

Here it is with all the appropriate letters revealed at the end of each line. Let me know if you notice any errors

1) ...that ~~~ when Snowman ~~~~ the game ~~~ adds the existence of secret win conditions. (MQRXAKE)

2) Are these win conditions the only secrets beyond what is being revealed? (NRSYBLF)

3) Not quite. (OSTZCMG)

4) There are some role secrets that even the players who were given these roles did not receive in their role PM. (PTUADNH)

5) Another role will elucidate ~~i~ ~~~~e~, but only once this note has been fully solved and the next secret is triggered. (QUVBEOI)

6) Without further ado, what follows is Snowman's real win condition. (RVWCFPJ)

7) Secret win condition: (SWXDGQK)

8) You do not need all detectives dead to win the game. (TXYEHRL)

9) Because you are so greedy, you really only talk about Kira to exploit him for your own financial gain. (UYZFISM)

10) If you lead at least three lynches throughout the game and successfully lynch your target, you can win with any team. (VZAGJTN)

11) To lead a lynch successfully, you must: (WABHKUO)

12) (1) build an argument as to say your lynch target is a baddie (~i~~~~~ ~~i~~i~~ ~~l~ ~~~i~~ ~~l~~), (XBCILVP)

13) (2) convince at least three other players to vote for this player ~~~ ~~~ ~~~~~~~ you ~~~~~d, (YCDJMWQ)

14) (3) Be one of the first five players to vote for that person, and, (ZDEKNXR)

15) (4) Get that player lynched. (AEFLOYS)

16) If your first attempt fails, you can still lynch that player in subsequent periods, so long as you ~~t~~f~ the first t~~ ~~~t~~~~. (BFGMPZT)

17) It does not matter what alignment or role your lynch target is. (CGHNQAU)

18) Completion of this puzzle triggers the secret event. (DHIORBV)

19) Good luck! (EIJPSCW)

#3826

12) BUILD AN ARGUMENT AS TO WHY YOUR LYNCH TARGET IS A BADDIE (WITHOUT...

#3827

Whenever you folks are ready, I'll provide my second overview of what you submit to inform you of the incorrect words.

#3828

Thanks TH. How do we know for example, that in the first line, "adds" is correct?

#3829

FZ. wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
FZ. wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I'm interested in the early voting for TH, given the revelation that it was a mechanic for Snowman.
What do you mean?
Line 14. Snowman had to be one of the first five people to vote. With the early voting, it makes me wonder if a similar mechanic is in Turnip Head's role (and MM's, while we're at it).
Oh, and didn't llama vote early too?

He did.

#3830

6) If your first attempt fails, you can still lynch that player in subsequent periods, so long as you SATISFY the first t~~ ~~~t~~~~. (

#3831

FZ. wrote:Thanks TH. How do we know for example, that in the first line, "adds" is correct?

We don't, all we know right now is that it starts with A. But in going through all the possible words that could fit there, that's honestly the only one that makes any sense. Could be "away" too, I guess. MP checked some of our work once, so we know that a lot of it is correct, but there's still some guesswork involved. He said he'll check it two more times for us

#3832

Zomberella12 wrote:6) If your first attempt fails, you can still lynch that player in subsequent periods, so long as you SATISFY the first t~~ ~~~t~~~~. (

first two criteria

#3833

Also, why does this sentence start like that?

1) ...that ~~~ when Snowman ~~~~ the game ~~~ adds the existence of secret win conditions. (MQRXAKE)

Can the second word be "lost"

linki: so I imagine it's for both civvies and baddies, which makes llama's number 3 reason, null

#3834

FZ. wrote:Also, why does this sentence start like that?

1) ...that ~~~ when Snowman ~~~~ the game ~~~ adds the existence of secret win conditions. (MQRXAKE)

Can the second word be "lost"

linki: so I imagine it's for both civvies and baddies, which makes llama's number 3 reason, null

is continues from an earlier message

"Keep solving these and you can learn..."

#3835

Turnip Head wrote:Here it is with all the appropriate letters revealed at the end of each line. Let me know if you notice any errors

1) ...that ~~~ when Snowman LOST the game AND adds the existence of secret win conditions. (MQRXAKE)

2) Are these win conditions the only secrets beyond what is being revealed? (NRSYBLF)

3) Not quite. (OSTZCMG)

4) There are some role secrets that even the players who were given these roles did not receive in their role PM. (PTUADNH)

5) Another role will elucidate THIS ~~~~e~, but only once this note has been fully solved and the next secret is triggered. (QUVBEOI)

6) Without further ado, what follows is Snowman's real win condition. (RVWCFPJ)

7) Secret win condition: (SWXDGQK)

8) You do not need all detectives dead to win the game. (TXYEHRL)

9) Because you are so greedy, you really only talk about Kira to exploit him for your own financial gain. (UYZFISM)

10) If you lead at least three lynches throughout the game and successfully lynch your target, you can win with any team. (VZAGJTN)

11) To lead a lynch successfully, you must: (WABHKUO)

12) (1) build an argument as to say your lynch target is a baddie (WITHOUT ~~i~~i~~ ~~l~ ~~~i~~ ~~l~~), (XBCILVP)

13) (2) convince at least three other players to vote for this player ~~~ ~~~ ~~~~~~~ you ~~~~~d, (YCDJMWQ)

14) (3) Be one of the first five players to vote for that person, and, (ZDEKNXR)

15) (4) Get that player lynched. (AEFLOYS)

16) If your first attempt fails, you can still lynch that player in subsequent periods, so long as you SATISFY the first TWO CRITERIA. (BFGMPZT)

17) It does not matter what alignment or role your lynch target is. (CGHNQAU)

18) Completion of this puzzle triggers the secret event. (DHIORBV)

19) Good luck! (EIJPSCW)

@ MP - Check It!

#3836

"And" can't be right in the first line I don't think

#3837

ok I get it now.

#3838

Zomba, maybe we shouldn't rush with these checks, we haven't even advanced much from the previous one.

#3839

5) Another role will elucidate this player, but only once this note has been fully solved and the next secret is triggered. (QUVBEOI)

But have we reached this solution before, regarding "this player", or was it something else?

#3840

Ricochet wrote:5) Another role will elucidate this player, but only once this note has been fully solved and the next secret is triggered. (QUVBEOI)

But have we reached this solution before, regarding "this player", or was it something else?

Looks like we left it blank for MP's first check.

#3841

12) (1) build an argument as to say your lynch target is a baddie (WITHOUT BRINGING ROLE ~~~i~~ ~~l~~), (XBCILVP)

#3842

Just double check among yourselves and once at least two of you let me know, I'll check what you have.

#3843

I feel the bracket for 12) has something with "without hinting, outing or something Snowman would not have been allowed to do, even as a baddie".

#3844

I liked Zomberella's change for that line, I'll combine it with FZ's:

12) (1) build an argument as to why your lynch target is a baddie (WITHOUT BRINGING ROLE ~~~i~~ ~~l~~), (XBCILVP)

linki: Thanks MP, we'll take just a little more time I think

#3845

FZ. wrote:12) (1) build an argument as to say your lynch target is a baddie (WITHOUT BRINGING ROLE ~~~i~~ ~~l~~), (XBCILVP)

No, because B already revealed

#3846

I'm fine with "as to why", too.

#3847

Does "elucidate this player" make sense?

#3848

Ricochet wrote:I feel the bracket for 12) has something with "without hinting, outing or something Snowman would not have been allowed to do, even as a baddie".

But hinting can't work here, nor can outing. I thought about those

#3849

Epignosis wrote:
FZ. wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I'm interested in the early voting for TH, given the revelation that it was a mechanic for Snowman.
What do you mean?
Line 14. Snowman had to be one of the first five people to vote. With the early voting, it makes me wonder if a similar mechanic is in Turnip Head's role (and MM's, while we're at it).

This is a fair point Epi - I'm wondering though if that early vote mechanism might be in place for a role in each alignment. If that makes any sense?

To have 3 people in the Kira group have the same early vote requirement feels like too big of a tell. Ya know?

#3850

What about the lynch? I won't be here more than a few minutes or so tomorrow, so if anyone has other suggestions other than TH (which I don't plan to vote for at this point), I'd love to hear suggestions.

linki: Bea, that's why I said llama's point about TH voting early, as a reason to see him as a baddie is null

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