The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:28 am Luke

You command the Brotherhood outpost located at the NCR capital city. You're regarded with some suspicion by the locals who don't understand the importance of the Brotherhood mission.

You're a 2-shot messenger. One of your chief duties is to keep the Brotherhood command to the south appraised of NCR social and technological development. Twice during the game during any separate night phases, you may craft a personal message to be sent to a player you select through the host. The message can be anything.

Separately, you are a 1-shot faction spy. You keep a close eye on the NCR Rangers and their conflict with the Slavers to aid in your own mission. Once during the game during any night phase, you may select a player. You will be told whether or not that player has ever targeted the Slaver during any previous night phase.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:14 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:13 pm Does anyone else think some or most of the pressure on me has been mafia-driven?

I'm voting the person who's voting you.

So yes.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:14 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:13 pm Does anyone else think some or most of the pressure on me has been mafia-driven?

I'm voting the person who's voting you.

So yes.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:10 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:02 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:58 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:57 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:13 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:12 pm wait is one of the load-bearing arguments that he couldn't be a certain role because his actions aren't in alignment with that role's win condition?

No the load-bearing argument is that Falcon cannot be what he claims to be because it is mechanically impossible for him to get the night result he claims to have with any investigative role.

Did you kill falcon??

No. The host did.

Just I know but did you submit the kill I mean, don’t be smart now.

The kill was not submitted by anyone. We aren't allowed to discuss why it happened; it was a modkill made for something outside the boundaries of the game.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:12 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:21 pm I am not the Slaver. Falcon is full of shit.

We will see about that tonight.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:17 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:14 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:13 pm Does anyone else think some or most of the pressure on me has been mafia-driven?

I'm voting the person who's voting you.

So yes.

I don't consider Chop to be a driving force behind the pressure on me. He put a vote on me but has said approximately 0 words about me all game.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:16 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:14 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:13 pm Does anyone else think some or most of the pressure on me has been mafia-driven?

I'm voting the person who's voting you.

So yes.

I didn’t even drive the wagon.
I’m just voting the guy who is TRing the Obv Wolf Tony.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:17 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:14 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:13 pm Does anyone else think some or most of the pressure on me has been mafia-driven?

I'm voting the person who's voting you.

So yes.

I don't consider Chop to be a driving force behind the pressure on me. He put a vote on me but has said approximately 0 words about me all game.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:18 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:16 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:14 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:13 pm Does anyone else think some or most of the pressure on me has been mafia-driven?

I'm voting the person who's voting you.

So yes.

I didn’t even drive the wagon.
I’m just voting the guy who is TRing the Obv Wolf Tony.

Rather than doing that, you could try to convince some of us that Tony is a wolf.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:15 pm Not to mention I can legit resolve the situation regarding Falcon/Alison tonight.
Trying to prevent that seems like scum trying to protect the potential lost wolf.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:19 pm That’s correct, you’ve never been my centre of attention.
That’s been Tony’s job half this game for some reason.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:19 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:18 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:16 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:14 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:13 pm Does anyone else think some or most of the pressure on me has been mafia-driven?

I'm voting the person who's voting you.

So yes.

I didn’t even drive the wagon.
I’m just voting the guy who is TRing the Obv Wolf Tony.

Rather than doing that, you could try to convince some of us that Tony is a wolf.

Don’t you believe it to be at least somewhat odd he claims he be tunnelling me but didn’t have is vote on me till I called him on it?

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:19 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:18 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:16 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:14 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:13 pm Does anyone else think some or most of the pressure on me has been mafia-driven?

I'm voting the person who's voting you.

So yes.

I didn’t even drive the wagon.
I’m just voting the guy who is TRing the Obv Wolf Tony.

Rather than doing that, you could try to convince some of us that Tony is a wolf.

Don’t you believe it to be at least somewhat odd he claims he be tunnelling me but didn’t have is vote on me till I called him on it?

Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:19 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:15 pm Not to mention I can legit resolve the situation regarding Falcon/Alison tonight.
Trying to prevent that seems like scum trying to protect the potential lost wolf.

I want to believe this. I’ll vote the other guy and wait for tomorrow. Good luck chop

Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:19 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:15 pm Not to mention I can legit resolve the situation regarding Falcon/Alison tonight.
Trying to prevent that seems like scum trying to protect the potential lost wolf.

I want to believe this. I’ll vote the other guy and wait for tomorrow. Good luck chop

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:28 am Luke

You command the Brotherhood outpost located at the NCR capital city. You're regarded with some suspicion by the locals who don't understand the importance of the Brotherhood mission.

You're a 2-shot messenger. One of your chief duties is to keep the Brotherhood command to the south appraised of NCR social and technological development. Twice during the game during any separate night phases, you may craft a personal message to be sent to a player you select through the host. The message can be anything.

Separately, you are a 1-shot faction spy. You keep a close eye on the NCR Rangers and their conflict with the Slavers to aid in your own mission. Once during the game during any night phase, you may select a player. You will be told whether or not that player has ever targeted the Slaver during any previous night phase.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:20 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:19 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:18 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:16 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:14 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:13 pm Does anyone else think some or most of the pressure on me has been mafia-driven?

I'm voting the person who's voting you.

So yes.

I didn’t even drive the wagon.
I’m just voting the guy who is TRing the Obv Wolf Tony.

Rather than doing that, you could try to convince some of us that Tony is a wolf.

Don’t you believe it to be at least somewhat odd he claims he be tunnelling me but didn’t have is vote on me till I called him on it?

Nope.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:22 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:20 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:19 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:18 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:16 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:14 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:13 pm Does anyone else think some or most of the pressure on me has been mafia-driven?

I'm voting the person who's voting you.

So yes.

I didn’t even drive the wagon.
I’m just voting the guy who is TRing the Obv Wolf Tony.

Rather than doing that, you could try to convince some of us that Tony is a wolf.

Don’t you believe it to be at least somewhat odd he claims he be tunnelling me but didn’t have is vote on me till I called him on it?

Nope.

So you think that’s a normal reaction?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:21 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:19 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:15 pm Not to mention I can legit resolve the situation regarding Falcon/Alison tonight.
Trying to prevent that seems like scum trying to protect the potential lost wolf.

I want to believe this. I’ll vote the other guy and wait for tomorrow. Good luck chop

You shouldn't. It's mechanically impossible for his claimed role to give mech info about me or Falcon.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:23 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:22 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:20 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:19 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:18 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:16 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:14 pm
I'm voting the person who's voting you.

So yes.

I didn’t even drive the wagon.
I’m just voting the guy who is TRing the Obv Wolf Tony.

Rather than doing that, you could try to convince some of us that Tony is a wolf.

Don’t you believe it to be at least somewhat odd he claims he be tunnelling me but didn’t have is vote on me till I called him on it?

Nope.

So you think that’s a normal reaction?

I do not think it's unusual or indicative of an alignment. Votes do not matter until the end of the day.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:23 pm Ok, look at the way he started tunneling me Day 1.
What do you think about it?

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:26 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:23 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:22 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:20 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:19 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:18 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:16 pm

I didn’t even drive the wagon.
I’m just voting the guy who is TRing the Obv Wolf Tony.

Rather than doing that, you could try to convince some of us that Tony is a wolf.

Don’t you believe it to be at least somewhat odd he claims he be tunnelling me but didn’t have is vote on me till I called him on it?

Nope.

So you think that’s a normal reaction?

I do not think it's unusual or indicative of an alignment. Votes do not matter until the end of the day.

Well I mean their vote on me was for the entire day soooo.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:20 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:19 pm That’s correct, you’ve never been my centre of attention.
That’s been Tony’s job half this game for some reason.

Mind sharing this part with us?

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:25 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:21 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:19 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:15 pm Not to mention I can legit resolve the situation regarding Falcon/Alison tonight.
Trying to prevent that seems like scum trying to protect the potential lost wolf.

I want to believe this. I’ll vote the other guy and wait for tomorrow. Good luck chop

You shouldn't. It's mechanically impossible for his claimed role to give mech info about me or Falcon.

Yeah because Faction Spy is the equivalent to a Town Visitor right?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:26 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:23 pm Ok, look at the way he started tunneling me Day 1.
What do you think about it?

Again, nothing too unusual. It is not town-indicative, but I would not call it a reason for suspicion either.

How is his "tunneling" any different from yours?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:28 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:25 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:21 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:19 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:15 pm Not to mention I can legit resolve the situation regarding Falcon/Alison tonight.
Trying to prevent that seems like scum trying to protect the potential lost wolf.

I want to believe this. I’ll vote the other guy and wait for tomorrow. Good luck chop

You shouldn't. It's mechanically impossible for his claimed role to give mech info about me or Falcon.

Yeah because Faction Spy is the equivalent to a Town Visitor right?

Falcon is dead.

Who are you using your spy on?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:18 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:17 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:14 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:13 pm Does anyone else think some or most of the pressure on me has been mafia-driven?

I'm voting the person who's voting you.

So yes.

I don't consider Chop to be a driving force behind the pressure on me. He put a vote on me but has said approximately 0 words about me all game.

I think Chop is scum.

If Chop is scum and he is voting you then pushing Sloonei is scum agenda.

If the scum team's plan is to push you then I doubt they sent Chop and Chop alone to do their work.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:29 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:26 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:23 pm Ok, look at the way he started tunneling me Day 1.
What do you think about it?

Again, nothing too unusual. It is not town-indicative, but I would not call it a reason for suspicion either.

How is his "tunneling" any different from yours?

Because unlike them I have a more valid reason to start it.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:29 pm And it isn’t fake.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:29 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:28 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:25 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:21 pm

Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:19 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:15 pm Not to mention I can legit resolve the situation regarding Falcon/Alison tonight.
Trying to prevent that seems like scum trying to protect the potential lost wolf.

I want to believe this. I’ll vote the other guy and wait for tomorrow. Good luck chop

You shouldn't. It's mechanically impossible for his claimed role to give mech info about me or Falcon.

Yeah because Faction Spy is the equivalent to a Town Visitor right?

Falcon is dead.

Who are you using your spy on?

He’s voting you.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:17 pm I’m kinda hoping Alison is slaver so people open their eyes and realize Tony is scum.
Like if Alison flips Slaver if people can’t realize they have been signalling to Tony they are like brain dead.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:49 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:17 am epi has been trending up quite a lot, imo

Yes. Marmot and Sloonei are unaligned and I believe it may well be TvS because it does not seem like a TvT fight.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:13 pm @Kylemii
May I ask why your voting me here when you were voting with me before.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:35 pm

ChopChop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:13 pm @Kylemii
May I ask why your voting me here when you were voting with me before.

i'm a free spirit who comes and goes as he pleases :zen:

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:44 pm I have some spicy info that is only useful to me lol

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:52 pm There's probably some stuff to be gleaned from everyone pushing on falcon so hard, but I don't feel like doing that now.

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine because this is the way.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:33 pm I've received a private question, paraphrased below:

Can investigative roles target players who had already been eliminated/killed?

No. Dead players are not targetable in general.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:53 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:52 pm There's probably some stuff to be gleaned from everyone pushing on falcon so hard, but I don't feel like doing that now.

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine because this is the way.

What is your understanding of the falcon situation?

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:54 pm My brain still hurts after that catchup. Why does falcon get stuck with a bologna check on him two games in a row lol?

I'm ready for an anti-town flip.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:56 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:53 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:52 pm There's probably some stuff to be gleaned from everyone pushing on falcon so hard, but I don't feel like doing that now.

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine because this is the way.

What is your understanding of the falcon situation?

Grogu targeted falcon with some ability. Falcon didn't claim for raisins. Everyone believed Grogu and not falcon.

I was too lazy to look if anyone was taking advantage of the situation, but any mafia player would know he wasn't on their team, so it is a possibility that can be looked into is what I'm saying here.