Re: Team Fortress Mafia [DAY 5]
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:52 pm
Roleblock wouldn't be defense or protection.
Yeah, but that's boring AFLinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:57 pm As long as Marmot watches LC...
Mafia has to kill me and Wiggly N5 and N6 is either order.
Then Mafia has to kill Marmot N7.
So if we just spend the rest of the game voting to not lynch anyone eventually LC will find the last Mafia.
That's it boys we got em. The last Mafia gg.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:59 pmYeah, but that's boring AFLinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:57 pm As long as Marmot watches LC...
Mafia has to kill me and Wiggly N5 and N6 is either order.
Then Mafia has to kill Marmot N7.
So if we just spend the rest of the game voting to not lynch anyone eventually LC will find the last Mafia.
Appreciate the energy, but wrong.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:00 pmThat's it boys we got em. The last Mafia gg.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:59 pmYeah, but that's boring AFLinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:57 pm As long as Marmot watches LC...
Mafia has to kill me and Wiggly N5 and N6 is either order.
Then Mafia has to kill Marmot N7.
So if we just spend the rest of the game voting to not lynch anyone eventually LC will find the last Mafia.
This spews TSP as Townsig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:33 pmNot a fan of this. Starting towncores literally seconds into the game actually starting is a sure fire way to get a mafia member in the towncore and nuke entire game.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:48 pm Sean and Falcon, you should start a town core. You’re both town. I’m rooting for you!
Meanwhile this actually seems to be pointing to confirming that it is LC.sig wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:03 pmI"ll literally requote the post that got Gullio on me.sig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 1:33 pmthis right here is peak town. solid green, ride and die, will sheep for first ten days.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:46 am I think it’s best if mafia role claim, but town doesn’t.
This, basically hours into the game.
It would be akin to saying I was claiming cultist and obviously third party when I said dizzy and i should start a cult. Very nonsensical.
Furthermore, and why Gullio got the vote from me and why I'll keep hounding on it is he never went any deeper or attempted to engage me.
Then is trying to paint this false narrative I'm just OMGUS at him, but like come on when your reasoning is literally not a reason of course that's gonna lead to a counter vote and some pings since seems like a good fake set up for mafia to use.
And I'll keep bringing this up as long as its the cornerstone of him wanting to vote for me and trying to flood the thread with vote sig he's obvious mafia.
sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 12:31 pm So my biggest issue right now is I don't have any super solid mafia reads.
I'm back and forth on Gullio, his low tunneling on me is a bit scummy and he's not doing much content wise just volume also there's this weird thing with naa which doesn't seem V/V unless I"m missing something? But, he was also pushing sabie for awhile if i recall correctly and Last phase I pegged him as tunneling towny which seems more right.
I think the LC read on jack has some merit, but with the amount of blocks, protects, eCt out there it isn't solid.
I think most likely mafia are laying low, maybe we've got one who voted to save sabie, but doubt it's more than that, and probably one on her wagon? I need to go backk and look at that lay out.
Also beginning to suspect Falcon given his under the radar playstyle and D1 flipflopping vote then avoidance of wagons.
Has been edited to this:The faction also has one crit canteen, which can turn their faction-kill into a critical hit, making it ignore all protections and defenses, for one night. If only one member of the faction is alive, every kill they make will be a critical hit.
So instead of the last mafioso getting infinite anti-doctor boosts, they get 1 anti-doctor, 1 anti-watcher, 1 anti-blocker, and 1 anti-vig. The change is effective now, though obviously it will only affect the gameplay after the death of the 3rd mafioso.The faction also has one crit canteen, which can turn their faction-kill into a critical hit, making it ignore all protections and defenses, for one night.
If only one member of the faction is alive, they will get a second dose of crit canteen, as well as one dose of each of the following:
- Cloak canteen: makes the player's actions not appear to trackers or watchers for a night.
- Teleport canteen: player's the player's actions avoid roleblocking or misdirecting for one night.
- Uber canteen: makes the player dodge one kill that targets them.
The mafia may use multiple canteens in the same night. The act of drinking a canteen can't be blocked.
What the hell is this? Ive never seen a game being changed by a host mid game! This is massive host interference!Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:29 pm Greetings. I have come here to bring the many times dreaded, but sometimes necessary, Balance Patch. It has dawned on me that this setup may not have been as balanced as I thought it was, and between letting it play out that way and apologizing later or making a fix while I can, I have picked the later. I believe the fix is not a direct upgrade to either faction, it is more like a general equalizer that makes all remaining classes similarly effective against mafia and prevents mech analysis from being too automatic.
This part of the setup:
Has been edited to this:The faction also has one crit canteen, which can turn their faction-kill into a critical hit, making it ignore all protections and defenses, for one night. If only one member of the faction is alive, every kill they make will be a critical hit.
So instead of the last mafioso getting infinite anti-doctor boosts, they get 1 anti-doctor, 1 anti-watcher, 1 anti-blocker, and 1 anti-vig. The change is effective now, though obviously it will only affect the gameplay after the death of the 3rd mafioso.The faction also has one crit canteen, which can turn their faction-kill into a critical hit, making it ignore all protections and defenses, for one night.
If only one member of the faction is alive, they will get a second dose of crit canteen, as well as one dose of each of the following:
- Cloak canteen: makes the player's actions not appear to trackers or watchers for a night.
- Teleport canteen: player's the player's actions avoid roleblocking or misdirecting for one night.
- Uber canteen: makes the player dodge one kill that targets them.
The mafia may use multiple canteens in the same night. The act of drinking a canteen can't be blocked.
I hope you folks understand the need for this, since my goal is to make the game as fun as possible to everyone in it.
I'll be glad to defend myself and explain why all of your case is wrong. Not really out of anger, more as a challenge for myself.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:26 pmMight make a full case on why LC is last Mafia, but I think this first post of D3 with him going for Jack over Nanook seems pretty telling to me.
Consider it an appetizer for now.
Sometimes hotfixes are requiredGuillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:22 pm I love bastard games but they at least should be advertised as such, i expected to play a normal game.
I'll 1 up you. I called you Sabie, Sig, and Nanook (ignore that i also had Jack in that list please sorry Jackie)Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:19 pmWhat the hell is this? Ive never seen a game being changed by a host mid game! This is massive host interference!Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:29 pm Greetings. I have come here to bring the many times dreaded, but sometimes necessary, Balance Patch. It has dawned on me that this setup may not have been as balanced as I thought it was, and between letting it play out that way and apologizing later or making a fix while I can, I have picked the later. I believe the fix is not a direct upgrade to either faction, it is more like a general equalizer that makes all remaining classes similarly effective against mafia and prevents mech analysis from being too automatic.
This part of the setup:
Has been edited to this:The faction also has one crit canteen, which can turn their faction-kill into a critical hit, making it ignore all protections and defenses, for one night. If only one member of the faction is alive, every kill they make will be a critical hit.
So instead of the last mafioso getting infinite anti-doctor boosts, they get 1 anti-doctor, 1 anti-watcher, 1 anti-blocker, and 1 anti-vig. The change is effective now, though obviously it will only affect the gameplay after the death of the 3rd mafioso.The faction also has one crit canteen, which can turn their faction-kill into a critical hit, making it ignore all protections and defenses, for one night.
If only one member of the faction is alive, they will get a second dose of crit canteen, as well as one dose of each of the following:
- Cloak canteen: makes the player's actions not appear to trackers or watchers for a night.
- Teleport canteen: player's the player's actions avoid roleblocking or misdirecting for one night.
- Uber canteen: makes the player dodge one kill that targets them.
The mafia may use multiple canteens in the same night. The act of drinking a canteen can't be blocked.
I hope you folks understand the need for this, since my goal is to make the game as fun as possible to everyone in it.
By thecway, i told you guys Sig was outed wolf since day 1, im the best Day 1 scum hunter in the globe. Two caught scum baby! Sabie and Sig!
By the way, i didnt use my self save last night lol. I love gambling!
MhmLinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:48 pm Actually I don't think Mafia can actually kill Marmot.
As long as a Pyro is still alive nobody can even target Marmot as it'll just be redirected to a random person instead.
I can tell you right now. Sig knew i caught them day 1 and Seanzie had the same reaction to Sig on day 1.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:13 pm Oh phewy Sig townspewed Faclon.This spews TSP as Townsig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:33 pmNot a fan of this. Starting towncores literally seconds into the game actually starting is a sure fire way to get a mafia member in the towncore and nuke entire game.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:48 pm Sean and Falcon, you should start a town core. You’re both town. I’m rooting for you!
Contenders for last Mafia based on Sig's D1.
LC - an earl wishywashy read on LC and only commented on Dizzy's LC and Sean reads.Gullio could be a possibilit based on this post. It's an RVS but is forced. Can't tell if it's forced in the since Sig wanted to put any vote out or a distancing force.Spoiler: showAgain this feels a tad forced. This came from D2 though so Sig wasn't RVSing Gullio like it seemed? Their whole push on Gullio is bad but I cannot tell if that is distancing or just not pushing good.Spoiler: showThe only other reads I saw from Sig were scum reading me for saying Nanook and Sig were Mafia and scum reading Falcon as my partner. Which those don't come across as distancing IMO and probably are just town spews.Spoiler: show
suuuure you didLime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:33 pm As I said, game is auto pilot into a win.
Please watch me and I'll simply act as a cop clearing players by my role block.
Fyi I blocked Mac just because...I didn't read the game and I sent my action in last minute.
If someone wants to send me a list of who we think is cleared and who I should avoid that would be great.
Ping me for these proceedings.
in which I'm clearedsig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:41 pmI wouldn't call you engaging other people with an open question of why doesn't sig have votes really worthy of a mature response.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:38 pmHow is it a lazy approach to push someone with 0 votes when there are 5-3 wagons? The work has yet to start.sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:36 pm1. I mean it's a pretty good argument to make.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:29 pmEvery time I suspect you regardless of your alignment you always make this argument which is always incorrect as I've pushed you as town many times, and been correct many times...sig wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:19 pmI mean see whenever I do omgus you it's because you're mafia that goes for me, very rarely does town mac try to dumbly vote me off. Now usually it doesn't matter buuuuuut I take great joy at end game/in dead chat, being able to whine and feel vindicated that I was once again right.
I think you are sus. Not being pushed since d1 given your performance here is strongly indicative that you are mafia or the mafia would have tried to push you.
What about pushing you of all people makes me dumb? Where do you get off calling me dumb for daring to push a tepid, omgussy Sig that has been coasting?
2. I wouldn't say I'm being tepid what so ever, I'm making reads when I see them and asking questions. Not my fault more people aren't engaging in my reads and that the thread keeps getting derailed by dumb arguments.
3. On this whole tepid/not doing enough point we are only on D3, and D2 was a total wash, even with that I've still done more than alot of other players so kinda weak to see I'm not doing anything and being tepid.
4. Back to point 3, I don't think I'm coasting at all, I'm posting, giving my thoughts, and staying caught up which is more than some people. So don't really see where this whole coasting thing is coming from.
5. It's dumb since it"s wrong and is a lazy approach. Not really doing any work into it just asking why other people haven't voted for me and helping to set up mafia for an easy vote/mislynch.
Dumb since it's wrong hey. Okay well I'm just gonna go ahead and call everyone sussing me dumb, that is surely a mature way to engage people.
Having said that you did engage me re falcon/jack so I've got no problem engaging back.
Do you have a role that gives you a result? I pretty much just sent the RB on you to see what would happen.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:47 pmsuuuure you didLime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:33 pm As I said, game is auto pilot into a win.
Please watch me and I'll simply act as a cop clearing players by my role block.
Fyi I blocked Mac just because...I didn't read the game and I sent my action in last minute.
If someone wants to send me a list of who we think is cleared and who I should avoid that would be great.
Ping me for these proceedings.
Did MacDougall just acknowledged that i've had great reads in this game?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:49 pm Guess 1 - Guillo was a townsiding bisnitch all game and bussed all his team
Guess 2 - TSP is just mafia (caveat seems to be nobody else thinks this for probably some good reason I'm unaware of)
Guess 3 - It's LC
you know my roleLime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:52 pmDo you have a role that gives you a result? I pretty much just sent the RB on you to see what would happen.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:47 pmsuuuure you didLime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:33 pm As I said, game is auto pilot into a win.
Please watch me and I'll simply act as a cop clearing players by my role block.
Fyi I blocked Mac just because...I didn't read the game and I sent my action in last minute.
If someone wants to send me a list of who we think is cleared and who I should avoid that would be great.
Ping me for these proceedings.
if town absolutely best I've seen you playGuillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:53 pmDid MacDougall just acknowledged that i've had great reads in this game?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:49 pm Guess 1 - Guillo was a townsiding bisnitch all game and bussed all his team
Guess 2 - TSP is just mafia (caveat seems to be nobody else thinks this for probably some good reason I'm unaware of)
Guess 3 - It's LC
Oh wait I mean maybe I was blocked
Not really I've paid like maybe 30% attention to the game from Day 2 onwards.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:53 pmyou know my roleLime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:52 pmDo you have a role that gives you a result? I pretty much just sent the RB on you to see what would happen.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:47 pmsuuuure you didLime Coke wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:33 pm As I said, game is auto pilot into a win.
Please watch me and I'll simply act as a cop clearing players by my role block.
Fyi I blocked Mac just because...I didn't read the game and I sent my action in last minute.
If someone wants to send me a list of who we think is cleared and who I should avoid that would be great.
Ping me for these proceedings.
Aaaaawe. I hope you are not scum pocketing me here because it just worked.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:53 pmif town absolutely best I've seen you playGuillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:53 pmDid MacDougall just acknowledged that i've had great reads in this game?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:49 pm Guess 1 - Guillo was a townsiding bisnitch all game and bussed all his team
Guess 2 - TSP is just mafia (caveat seems to be nobody else thinks this for probably some good reason I'm unaware of)
Guess 3 - It's LC
are you mistaking me for someone else? I've been pushing sig since the game started and he overreacted and spewed me town every timeLinearPoint wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:02 pm Per Gullio's request I have combed through Day 1 and compiled every post that could be construed as not wanting to lynch Sig (ignoring dead people and Sig)
Unfortunately Sig's biggest defender was Gav and not many people questioned or even wanted to defend Sig.Although Mac never mentioned anything about Sig at the start of D2, he and sig were tag teaming trying to lynch me D2.Spoiler: show
I think if you were going off of people defending Sig then that would mean Mac is really the only suspect. Falcon while he did question Sig lynch did everytually get on Sig after Sig dipped after being accused D1.
Maybe marmot.
So far I'm thinking LC, Martin, or Mac for last Mafia based on Sig-related analysis.
Also gullio is just always town lol. He was hard pushing Sabie and Sig for D1 lynch.
LOL TSP is even more IC. "I could go for Sabie, Sig, or Nanook today" lol.
All maf got hard scum read D1.