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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:26 pm
by Spacedaisy
It is not in the spirit, no. If this is broken again I will be forced to resort to modkill. Everyone is allowed to put forward what they think happened, but they can’t put anything forward as fact (whether true or not) that they know from night actions. Therefore, even a fake or incorrect claim of info will have to met with modkill just as much as a true claim. If you think someone is bad based on your night actions, use the thread to support it.

Next offense will be a modkill regardless of who it is.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:28 pm
by Sabiplz
Lucy didn't you say your powers didn't work or an I misremembering

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:29 pm
by robyn
Sabiplz wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:28 pm Lucy didn't you say your powers didn't work or an I misremembering
there's no way you're town after saying this, thanks for the wolf claim

however no, i was able to use my ability on every night

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:30 pm
by Bereft
The Oracle learns who drew which card, literally stop telling saying things that allude to the Oracle learning who played which card. Cards do not need to be played, they can be kept and discarded.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:30 pm
by Sabiplz
lucy wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:29 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:28 pm Lucy didn't you say your powers didn't work or an I misremembering
there's no way you're town after saying this, thanks for the wolf claim

however no, i was able to use my ability on every night
Not wolf but thanks for trying. I'm trying to get clarity of what's going on

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:31 pm
by staypositivefriend
i dont mean to be rude but my final guess is that lucy is wrong about the basic mechanics of the setup, or intentionally lying, and she should be ignored today. you can figure out why yourself

Re: Cartomancy [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:33 pm
by Sabiplz
lucy wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:44 pm something interfered with my ability last night
@lucy are you leading town the wrong way ye sor no

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:34 pm
by Sabiplz
I don't think Mac is wolf.

Lucy pushing info that Mac is wolf after saying she was roleblocked the night the card WA sused is????

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:34 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Lucy’s third target was Seanzie. Seanzie died and flipped vanilla town.

Judgement played by Seanzie/SPF/Mac. Ergo, at least one wolf in SPF/Mac.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:34 pm
by Bereft
can we not talk about whateve rlucy might have said with regard to whether their abilities worked.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:34 pm
by Dennis
I don't know how anyone can trust lucy after all of this jeepers man

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:34 pm
by robyn
Sabiplz wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:34 pm I don't think Mac is wolf.

Lucy pushing info that Mac is wolf after saying she was roleblocked the night the card WA sused is????
again thank you for the wolf claim

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:35 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
And honestly, SPF having difficulty scumreading Mac atp is ???

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:35 pm
by robyn
this fucking game

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:35 pm
by robyn
cya later

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:35 pm
by Sabiplz
lucy wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:34 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:34 pm I don't think Mac is wolf.

Lucy pushing info that Mac is wolf after saying she was roleblocked the night the card WA sused is????
again thank you for the wolf claim
How is it a wolf claim when you during eod said that? Are you lying or telling the truth.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:36 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
If townies could stop throwing fits about how the oracle is making shit up, that would be great. Because there are more than 5 players being insanely wolfy right now.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:37 pm
by Sabiplz
Bereft wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:34 pm can we not talk about whateve rlucy might have said with regard to whether their abilities worked.
We can't make a mistake atp in the game so yes I want to know why lucy is posting conflicting stuff.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:38 pm
by robyn
staypositivefriend wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:31 pm i dont mean to be rude but my final guess is that lucy is wrong about the basic mechanics of the setup, or intentionally lying, and she should be ignored today. you can figure out why yourself
i am doing neither, i can't elaborate further

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:38 pm
by Bereft
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:36 pm If townies could stop throwing fits about how the oracle is making shit up, that would be great. Because there are more than 5 players being insanely wolfy right now.
How about you read the setup.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:39 pm
by staypositivefriend
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:35 pm And honestly, SPF having difficulty scumreading Mac atp is ???
hard for me to believe that the dynamic between creature/mac in this game is W/W for various reasons. hard for me to believe that mac would be playing outside of the wolfrange of every game i've seen from him to the extent that he has in this game. hard for me to believe that he would have the emotional arc he has had in this game

i have no reason to believe that lucy is telling the truth for reasons that i'm not going to re-litigate, especially since she is calling me outed, so you will excuse me if i'm going to trust my own solving right now instead of someone who is trying to turn this into a single player game

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:39 pm
by robyn
what the FUCk

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:39 pm
by Sabiplz
Bereft wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:38 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:36 pm If townies could stop throwing fits about how the oracle is making shit up, that would be great. Because there are more than 5 players being insanely wolfy right now.
How about you read the setup.
Wolfs don't read set up.

The fact jack is going along with this chaos is sus

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:39 pm
by robyn
yeah im ghosting the game

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:39 pm
by Bereft
Sabiplz wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:37 pm
Bereft wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:34 pm can we not talk about whateve rlucy might have said with regard to whether their abilities worked.
We can't make a mistake atp in the game so yes I want to know why lucy is posting conflicting stuff.
Based on setup I don't believe that its possible to interfere with Oracle abilities. Happy now?

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:39 pm
by Dennis
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:36 pm If townies could stop throwing fits about how the oracle is making shit up, that would be great. Because there are more than 5 players being insanely wolfy right now.
??? Is this not something to at least talk about? Especially you saying yourself the oracle "made shit up"??

But I've just about exhausted my thoughts on it anyways so I will concede

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:39 pm
by robyn
nice win mafia

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:40 pm
by Sabiplz
Bereft wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:39 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:37 pm
Bereft wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:34 pm can we not talk about whateve rlucy might have said with regard to whether their abilities worked.
We can't make a mistake atp in the game so yes I want to know why lucy is posting conflicting stuff.
Based on setup I don't believe that its possible to interfere with Oracle abilities. Happy now?
Yes

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:41 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:34 pm Lucy’s third target was Seanzie. Seanzie died and flipped vanilla town.

Judgement played by Seanzie/SPF/Mac. Ergo, at least one wolf in SPF/Mac.
Bereft wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:38 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:36 pm If townies could stop throwing fits about how the oracle is making shit up, that would be great. Because there are more than 5 players being insanely wolfy right now.
How about you read the setup.
How bout you read the setup?

Same for @Sabiplz @Dennis @staypositivefriend

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:42 pm
by staypositivefriend
jack, i have read the setup. my (VERY STRONG GUESS) is that lucy is either incorrect or lying about the information she is saying today. i HAVE thought about it. i HAVE read the setup. i do not think she is telling the truth. i have posted why

im not going to waste another post talking about this

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:44 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Dennis wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:39 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:36 pm If townies could stop throwing fits about how the oracle is making shit up, that would be great. Because there are more than 5 players being insanely wolfy right now.
??? Is this not something to at least talk about? Especially you saying yourself the oracle "made shit up"??

But I've just about exhausted my thoughts on it anyways so I will concede
It’s something we need to talk about but when a confirmed townie comes in with a red and there are 3 wolves and 3 players come in and can’t seem to understand how red peeks work, where there’s your mafia.

And when you’re looking 2 wolves (cause Creature, Tutuu and one in Sig and Porscha are outted) and 4 players come in and can’t understand how red peeks work, they can’t all be mafia now can they? Hence my frustration.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:44 pm
by Bereft
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:34 pm Lucy’s third target was Seanzie. Seanzie died and flipped vanilla town.

Judgement played by Seanzie/SPF/Mac. Ergo, at least one wolf in SPF/Mac.
Bereft wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:38 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:36 pm If townies could stop throwing fits about how the oracle is making shit up, that would be great. Because there are more than 5 players being insanely wolfy right now.
How about you read the setup.
How bout you read the setup?

Same for @Sabiplz @Dennis @staypositivefriend
Can you stop being obtuse when its extremely clear that I've done so.

You've posted straight nonsense today ever since "oh no the entire towncore is mafia"

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:45 pm
by DrWilgy
staypositivefriend wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:42 pm jack, i have read the setup. my (VERY STRONG GUESS) is that lucy is either incorrect or lying about the information she is saying today. i HAVE thought about it. i HAVE read the setup. i do not think she is telling the truth. i have posted why

im not going to waste another post talking about this
Literally what motivation would there be to lying?

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:45 pm
by Sabiplz
DrWilgy wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:45 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:42 pm jack, i have read the setup. my (VERY STRONG GUESS) is that lucy is either incorrect or lying about the information she is saying today. i HAVE thought about it. i HAVE read the setup. i do not think she is telling the truth. i have posted why

im not going to waste another post talking about this
Literally what motivation would there be to lying?
Lucy ego about her playing skills

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:47 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
staypositivefriend wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:42 pm jack, i have read the setup. my (VERY STRONG GUESS) is that lucy is either incorrect or lying about the information she is saying today. i HAVE thought about it. i HAVE read the setup. i do not think she is telling the truth. i have posted why

im not going to waste another post talking about this
You understand that from my pov, there MUST be at least one wolf in you and Mac and you refusing to scumread Mac because “trust me bro” is really really bad, right?

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:47 pm
by Bereft
Lucy has good intentions, thats all I can really say.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:47 pm
by Sabiplz
Why did no one protect sean?

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:47 pm
by DrWilgy
Sabiplz wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:45 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:45 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:42 pm jack, i have read the setup. my (VERY STRONG GUESS) is that lucy is either incorrect or lying about the information she is saying today. i HAVE thought about it. i HAVE read the setup. i do not think she is telling the truth. i have posted why

im not going to waste another post talking about this
Literally what motivation would there be to lying?
Lucy ego about her playing skills
I'd REALLY like to believe that no one would do this as town.

Would nearly qualify that as game throwing.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:48 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Tienies who refuse to follow a setup confirmed player with a red prek deserve to lose and I feel like I’m taking crazy pills watching SPF, Sabi and Bereft twist themselves into knots to say a red peek isn’t a red peek.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:50 pm
by robyn
one last post tonight, i have read mechanics here closer than anyone, checked and rechecked mechanics through my head and with host and with mech info

no fps here, i am playing correctly and i understand every mechanical aspect of the game

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:50 pm
by Bereft
I'm so done.

Just turbo Creature.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:51 pm
by Bereft
I don't believe Mac and SPF are wolf together and thats final. Ill be open to one of them being, not both.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:52 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Congratulations, Wilgy. You’ve been reverse poed back into the town.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:53 pm
by Dennis
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:48 pm Tienies who refuse to follow a setup confirmed player with a red prek deserve to lose and I feel like I’m taking crazy pills watching SPF, Sabi and Bereft twist themselves into knots to say a red peek isn’t a red peek.
Weren't you upset with me too? I don't mean to be annoying, genuinely, I just wanna know why you said I was acting wolfy and then yelled at everyone but me?

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:53 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
This game is super unbalanced with 8 wolves.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:55 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Dennis wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:53 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:48 pm Tienies who refuse to follow a setup confirmed player with a red prek deserve to lose and I feel like I’m taking crazy pills watching SPF, Sabi and Bereft twist themselves into knots to say a red peek isn’t a red peek.
Weren't you upset with me too? I don't mean to be annoying, genuinely, I just wanna know why you said I was acting wolfy and then yelled at everyone but me?
Because your question was the most believably actually a question. I still want you to just understand and trust the mechanics but you don’t look like a wolf flat refusing to see a red peek.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:56 pm
by robyn
i think it's fucking barbaric to invoke the logic that i don't understand mechanics, that's literally gaslighting and taking my influence away, quite literally the most wolfy thing that can happen

and i'd like to say again that sabi is outed

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:59 pm
by Bereft
Can we all please turbo Creature so that I can finally be NKed and have out of this game. I don't see this situation ending well, even when Mac is wolfing here.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:01 pm
by Sabiplz
lucy wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:56 pm i think it's fucking barbaric to invoke the logic that i don't understand mechanics, that's literally gaslighting and taking my influence away, quite literally the most wolfy thing that can happen

and i'd like to say again that sabi is outed
How am I outted? You had a post before the shenanigans saying stuff that doesn't match your current info. I wanted clarification if this was legit or not because we can't make mistakes.

So kindly bugger off.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:01 pm
by Bereft
To reword because I don't think you guys understand what I said there.

I don't believe SPF is mafia based on their reaction today.