The Syndicate

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:24 am**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:20 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:17 am The town literally ignoring Thunal and Princess A as the remaining wolves is going to be its death sentence

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:18 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:17 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:12 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:11 am
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:10 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:06 am You didnt even fully read and answer the question. If and when you flip wolf probably just going to turbo lorab
why are you just clearing Thunal? i dont understand at all
answer all my questions
post them again, which ones?
I feel like you're being willfully obtuse
I feel the same way about you; ignoring my point about thunal and princess a
go make a case, that which is asserted with no evidence can be ignored with just as much.

You talk about behaviour that you saw like her saving michelle and svs. If you believe it so much why havent you made a case and pointed out the behaviour for other people? Thats what I did d2. I was wrong. But I believed in it and wanted to convince them. You're just saying things to say things fmpov

dude, i read players post and see how they acted with votes to deduce my reads... i dont pull them out of my hat

and all that same info is available to everyone... there is a reason i am pushing Thunal + Princess A;

and as more info occurs, reads changes... like i am not sus of lorab/bereft no more after more recent developments

i wasnt sus of Thunal + princess a early on, until recent events from day 3 + 4

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:27 am**

@Scotty @Bereft
read on thunal/princess A?

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:35 am**

I am thinking about yesterday and I think it was objectively correct to lynch anyone not SVS and get another no night kill because that gets us another day phase before lylo anyway, even if we hit town. Its basically a sleep but with info on the vote. I think it was a punt to kill SVS. Kinda kicking myself I even let it happen now.

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:47 am**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:23 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:49 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:08 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:06 pm another way to justify the poe is to realize that yeah lol, cape isnt the NK here unless mafia has literally just been checked out.

its really not that hard
I think it’s blatantly obvious mafia are in a funk, or just not participating.

SVS and Michelle could both be classified as such. Abbi is the outlier in that she’s been around, but hasn’t been a part of the pushes save for the whole ‘Michelle is bad yall’ right before EoD.

Lorab would fit exactly with that mentality of mafia throwing in the towel.
I'm also... yanno... the reason 2 wolfs lay at your feet. My read not withstanding I've sealed the fate of both Michelle and SVS in the very end

I mean I'm a known hell busser but find me a game where I bussed in a manner that gets me minimal town cred.

PoEing me is dumb.
I sealed the fate of SVS. Everything else is window dressing

No... you didn't

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:48 am**

I could have let it Rand

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:48 am**

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:51 am Honestly I am back to Thunal/Princess A for my two biggest wolf reads

*skull*

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:49 am**

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:04 am @RondoDimBuckle you are so off track. me and lorab together, what? have you even read my posts? did you read when princess A also was so adamant about going against SVS until the bitter end just like they did with michelle?

now its kinda clear to me, princess a was just defending their scum buddies aka michelle + svs, until it was inevitable and then jumped on the bandwagon against them to clear themselves in the process

Neither kill was inevitable pls stop this trash narrative

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:50 am**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:48 am I could have let it Rand

no, yesterday, today, trust me It didnt matter if SVS died. wolves wanted her dead. I sealed her fate

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:51 am**

trying to claim that your vote on svs mattered yesterday is actually making me trust you less Neon. Wolves wanted SVS dead. Trying to claim credit on a wolf direct NEED is very tone deaf with the game

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:53 am**

It's something dumb like

Michelle has 3 votes

LoRab has 7

Abbi "Stop throwing"

J3; "is there a reason your opinion changed"

Abbi: "yes"

5 minutes left

Abbi votes michelle

7 v 4

J3 moves
6 v 5

Someone else moves

Michelle is now lead wagon

Explain how I needed to do that

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:53 am**

If anyone can realistically explain why the "writing was on the wall" I'll self vote

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:54 am**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:53 am It's something dumb like

Michelle has 3 votes

LoRab has 7

Abbi "Stop throwing"

J3; "is there a reason your opinion changed"

Abbi: "yes"

5 minutes left

Abbi votes michelle

7 v 4

J3 moves
6 v 5

Someone else moves

Michelle is now lead wagon

Explain how I needed to do that

it was me, you, jjj. Pretty sure in that order

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:55 am**

Neon answer my wall questions as best you can

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:56 am**

If anyone can realistically explain why I don't go into d3 with (for this I'm assuming lorab town)

Another dead town and all my scum buds alive

I will self vote right now

That would be a shit play as wolf and I'm not a shit wolf

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:56 am**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:16 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:55 am VA21.PNG

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Ok lets look at this from another angle now we have a few days worth of data.

Group of Neon/Wilgy/Lorab because I think they are least likely wolf here (I am ignoring Robyns shield on bereft for the thought experiment)

D1 does Mafia SVS vote Mafia Scotty?
D1 does mafia neon vote mafia michelle only to throw her under the bus d2?
D1 does mafia wilgy vote mafia michelle only to help throw her under the bus d2?
D1 does mafia darling vote mafia svs?

d2 does mafia scotty/darling/bereft/thunal try to save mafia michelle knowing their day 1 record is on town? leaving town neon and wilgy as well as confirmed town cape/rondo/jjj/robyn to all gain credit and make the game super hard for them?

d3 does mafia thunal/bereft continue to vote town 3 days in a row?
d3 does mafia scotty knowing he has voted only town avoid a free ts lynch?

d4 does a mafia darling continue to vote off wagon? Then claim they wanted to be on the wagon the next day but were afraid to join us in case we would leave? (That weird me out that statement since I was hard pushing SVS all second half of the day so it doesnt make sense with what was actually happening. now that I think about it. [VOTE: darling] aubergine)

d4 is the mafia team just darling / Lorab? or darling + x or lorab +x or is it more likely that both mafia were on SVS knowing to continue to get kills they had to make sure svs died?
if the answer is darling + x: Which is more likely Thunal/Scotty/Bereft? (Or Wilgy/Neon)
If the answer is lorab + x: which is more likely? Thunal/Scotty/Bereft? (Or Wilgy/Neon)
if the answer is both are on wagon which two?

d4 why did you decide not to keep SVS alive? Why didnt you join the Scotty wagon?
@DarlingMonroe
@Scotty
@☆Princess Abigail☆
@Bereft
@Thunal33
@DrWilgy
@LoRab
@robyn

reposting since no one has answered any of the questions

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:59 am**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:50 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:48 am I could have let it Rand
no, yesterday, today, trust me It didnt matter if SVS died. wolves wanted her dead. I sealed her fate

Maybe but I wouldn't want her dead regardless of the mech

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:00 am**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:51 am trying to claim that your vote on svs mattered yesterday is actually making me trust you less Neon. Wolves wanted SVS dead. Trying to claim credit on a wolf direct NEED is very tone deaf with the game

I don't give a fuck about mech why the fuck do you ever willingly kill a wolf for no cred

I'm not dumb

I don't hard defend her till EoD if I want her dead Rondo

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:00 am**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:55 am Neon answer my wall questions as best you can

I don't do homework

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:55 am**

It's why I failed out of college bb

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:22 am**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:02 am I think it's Wilgy that's the wolfy one on me

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:03 am Wilgy been lightly shading me for days but only goes into me when it looks like it's easy

Implying any of this is easy? I've been busy as all hell.

I have no reason to nut assume you bussed Michelle. I've also been wary of you since you seemingly took me out of town reads for little reason as if to keep the PoE open. Not to mention you took me out of town reads after I had sussed and snagged a Michelle. You just started shouting about them for no rhyme or reason at the flip of a coin? I think the suspicion is valid, and the exact reason why I inquired Thunal specifically re you.

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:26 am**

I'm still of the opinion we should clear the unknowns before lylo.

LoRab was also compatible with both Michelle and SVS. I should the read SVS.

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:24 pm**

honestly dont care if I die much

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:25 pm**

this is like real not AtE my death is probably net beneficial

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:47 pm**

the thread has turned hellish while i was gone

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:53 pm**

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:49 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:56 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:39 pm im thinking its thunal & lorab / scotty / princess A

the rest are pretty town like, from my pov
One thing that bothers me about yesterday with you: I seem to remember you coming into d3 wanting SVS’ head; and then in d4 it felt as though she wasn’t even on your radar. What changed, if anything?
everytime I pushed for SVS, everyone ignored me. So since I wanted SVS gone, and there were votes on them already, I was cautious that if i voted, then others would unvote SVS, so instead I voted for the person I am voting for currently, Thunal. which is my biggest ping atm

Afaik I was your biggest ping since I voted two town wagons and robyn/cape who also did aren't wolves. Now that I was on SVS not just yesterday but most of the day before does that change anything?

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:55 pm**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:03 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:53 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:50 pm
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:47 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:47 pm scotty man and thunal u girltwink, can i get readslists

unordered in tiers:

Abi
Bereft
robyn
Rondo
Wilgy

DM
LoRab
Scotty

I'll get more of an order once I dig into stuff but I feel like we should look in the bottom 3 for today.
why wilgy?
He's not as town as the others not in my immediate PoE but I feel good about him. He's consistently been on the right side with Michelle, still voted SVS when it mattered, and felt like town Wilgy.
I really cant stress enough that points for the SVS kill are weird because it is actually in this setup better for wolves to kill SVS

I get that SVS was probably outed but it would still be better for wolves to kill a townie.

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:01 pm**

I don't like that I know nothing about DM as a player. There absolutely are players who distance a lot from their teammates and bus for little reason but I don't know if DM is one of those.

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:03 pm**

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:49 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:56 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:39 pm im thinking its thunal & lorab / scotty / princess A

the rest are pretty town like, from my pov
One thing that bothers me about yesterday with you: I seem to remember you coming into d3 wanting SVS’ head; and then in d4 it felt as though she wasn’t even on your radar. What changed, if anything?
everytime I pushed for SVS, everyone ignored me. So since I wanted SVS gone, and there were votes on them already, I was cautious that if i voted, then others would unvote SVS, so instead I voted for the person I am voting for currently, Thunal. which is my biggest ping atm

Did you want SVS gone? I don't think you said anything about SVS yesterday. I thought you'd at least endorse the wagon if you wanted her gone even if you didn't vote there.

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:06 pm**

this game is (!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

thunal's the most sane here.

and then it just drops off a cliff afterwards

i mean ig wilgy is sane but he posts almost never

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:10 pm**

Its hard to read DM because they've provided zero progression for any of their reads all game. It looks wolfy.

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:12 pm**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:55 am D1 does Mafia SVS vote Mafia Scotty?
D1 does mafia neon vote mafia michelle only to throw her under the bus d2?
D1 does mafia wilgy vote mafia michelle only to help throw her under the bus d2?
D1 does mafia darling vote mafia svs?

d2 does mafia scotty/darling/bereft/thunal try to save mafia michelle knowing their day 1 record is on town? leaving town neon and wilgy as well as confirmed town cape/rondo/jjj/robyn to all gain credit and make the game super hard for them?

d3 does mafia thunal/bereft continue to vote town 3 days in a row?
d3 does mafia scotty knowing he has voted only town avoid a free ts lynch?

d4 does a mafia darling continue to vote off wagon? Then claim they wanted to be on the wagon the next day but were afraid to join us in case we would leave? (That weird me out that statement since I was hard pushing SVS all second half of the day so it doesnt make sense with what was actually happening. now that I think about it. [VOTE: DARLING] aubergine)

d4 is the mafia team just darling / Lorab? or darling + x or lorab +x or is it more likely that both mafia were on SVS knowing to continue to get kills they had to make sure svs died?
if the answer is darling + x: Which is more likely Thunal/Scotty/Bereft? (Or Wilgy/Neon)
If the answer is lorab + x: which is more likely? Thunal/Scotty/Bereft? (Or Wilgy/Neon)
if the answer is both are on wagon which two?

d4 why did you decide not to keep SVS alive? Why didnt you join the Scotty wagon?

It could be Darling/LoRab but I'd guess at least one was on the wagon. Atm I'm trusting robyn that Bereft is town and I feel good about Neon being town so my immediate PoE is Darling/LoRab/Scotty/Wilgy.

JJJ felt confident SVS/Scotty weren't partnered. I'll look over SVS spew when I have time.

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:18 pm**

Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:06 pm this game is (!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

thunal's the most sane here.

and then it just drops off a cliff afterwards

i mean ig wilgy is sane but he posts almost never

I've done nothing wrong.

While busy, my entire thoughts are to advocate what I can, let y'all pick the wagons, then pick the best between the options I'm given.

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:24 pm**

@Bereft thoughts on dm chop?

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:26 pm**

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:24 pm @Bereft thoughts on dm chop?

I said my piece already.

All I care about is that we stick to the POE. This is the case for DM so Idrc beyond this because I can't be @#$ed to try to wrangle the thread.

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:28 pm**

Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:26 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:24 pm @Bereft thoughts on dm chop?
I said my piece already.

All I care about is that we stick to the POE. This is the case for DM so Idrc beyond this because I can't be @#$ed to try to wrangle the thread.

do ur wrangling, once i’m NKed u need some clout for yourself

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:29 pm**

Why is it dm?

Going through the ISO now and I don't think this is it. They were pretty keen to suspect SVS early, and then put Michelle in their PoE too.

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:34 pm**

Also, their gameplay this game seems to match as they were in severance
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Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:35 pm**

[VOTE: LoRab] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:46 pm**

The reason I went kinda cold on SVS day 4, is because day 3 i was dead set on SVS/ts account, and when ts account got eliminated and flipped town, my confidence kinda was bruised a bit. So I didn't want to be so adamant day 4 on SVS when the previous day I had just eaten humble pie, but I am glad SVS was wolf and my read from day 1 was right all along. Literally Day 1, my vote was on SVS, lol.

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:48 pm**

I could go with LoRab for wolf, but I feel like if they were truly wolf, they would had been replaced already / or we would had seen more activity from them ? If not, and LoRab is wolf, then Thunal is my final wolf read.

Michelle / SVS / LoRab / Thunal

IF Lorab is town, then Michelle / SVS / Thunal / Princess A or Scotty

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:49 pm**

And Rondo, i'll eventually get to your questionnaire lol

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:51 pm**

Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:10 pm Its hard to read DM because they've provided zero progression for any of their reads all game. It looks wolfy.

What does 'provided zero progression for any of their reads' mean?

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:51 pm**

IF Lorab is town, then Michelle / SVS / Thunal / Princess A or Scotty

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:52 pm**

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:51 pm
Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:10 pm Its hard to read DM because they've provided zero progression for any of their reads all game. It looks wolfy.
What does 'provided zero progression for any of their reads' mean?

means you aren’t adequately articulating your thought process

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:53 pm**

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:48 pm I could go with LoRab for wolf, but I feel like if they were truly wolf, they would had been replaced already / or we would had seen more activity from them ? If not, and LoRab is wolf, then Thunal is my final wolf read.

Michelle / SVS / LoRab / Thunal

IF Lorab is town, then Michelle / SVS / Thunal / Princess A or Scotty

why do you sr thunal?

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:06 pm**

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:53 pm
DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:48 pm I could go with LoRab for wolf, but I feel like if they were truly wolf, they would had been replaced already / or we would had seen more activity from them ? If not, and LoRab is wolf, then Thunal is my final wolf read.

Michelle / SVS / LoRab / Thunal

IF Lorab is town, then Michelle / SVS / Thunal / Princess A or Scotty
why do you sr thunal?

Thunal's vote:
day 1 - seanzie
day 2 - lorab (instead of the michelle wagon)
day 3 - ts account
day 4 - svs (once it was pretty clear svs had kinda given up [not even bothering to vote]

+ their posts.... & just process of elimination

with 9 players, 7 town, 2 scum

i feel good about [robyn, bereft, rondo, dr. wilgy, myself] that's 5

so the remaining pool [lorab, thunal, scotty, princess a] has 2 wolves and 2 towns, and from those, thunal has been more wolfie than scotty at least, lorab has giving us nothing, while princess A has super town moments and then super wolf moments, so its tough

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:08 pm**

dm, are you cop?

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:09 pm**

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:08 pm dm, are you cop?

can i even answer that ? lol

I would fine with either Lorab/Thunal being the ones who get chopped

princess a & scotty have some strong points for them being town, i wouldn't want to risk it

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:10 pm**

screaming, crying, throwing up

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:12 pm**

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:09 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:08 pm dm, are you cop?
can i even answer that ? lol

I would fine with either Lorab/Thunal being the ones who get chopped

princess a & scotty have some strong points for them being town, i wouldn't want to risk it

you cannot answer that

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