The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:00 pm did bullzeye do anything that you know of?

He watched JJJ N1. LC visited JJJ. That's all.

If you can find an example of a civilian team led astray by alternative theories I can find you three times as many examples of civilians that lost because they refused to entertain them.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:59 pm Another wacky theory for you. If LC was an obvious big target. And he was. Why did Timmer choose not to shoot at him? Timmer only gets a vig every second night. He's never gonna get a better chance to hit scum with it. But instead he uses a different night action? Explain that.

Timmer said it was because the mafia knew who he was, and they had a redirect. So he did something else instead of giving the mafia an extra kill.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:02 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:00 pm did bullzeye do anything that you know of?

He watched JJJ N1. LC visited JJJ. That's all.

And this information doesn't make Jay suspicious how?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:03 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:59 pm Another wacky theory for you. If LC was an obvious big target. And he was. Why did Timmer choose not to shoot at him? Timmer only gets a vig every second night. He's never gonna get a better chance to hit scum with it. But instead he uses a different night action? Explain that.

Timmer said it was because the mafia knew who he was, and they had a redirect. So he did something else instead of giving the mafia an extra kill.

Makes sense.

I'm off to work. Later.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:03 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:02 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:00 pm did bullzeye do anything that you know of?

He watched JJJ N1. LC visited JJJ. That's all.

And this information doesn't make Jay suspicious how?

You tell me. Mafia has reasons to target one another, AND reasons to target town. They can use a hogwarts ability and a dark arts ability in the same night. Lots of visits going on. But if you have an idea, tell us.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:53 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:50 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:46 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:15 pm I didn't do anything night 2.

@Quin Did you visit Long Con night 2?

I also didn't do anything night 2.

Ya’ll lazy n shit.

I was... kinda dead night 2.

I don’t want to hear your excuses.

#Blessed

ah no jeez

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:37 pm ah no jeez

Love the new avatar, dude

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:57 pm btw was that another classic sloonei townslip or just me

Lmao

Day 4

Who is responsible for all this death?

Poll ended at Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:37 pmPlease note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

ColinIsCool
0

DharmaHelper
0

insertnamehere
12
60%

Voters: Jackofhearts2005, JaggedJimmyJay, timmer, Lunalee, Quin, MacDougall, sprityo, ColinIsCool, nutella, juliets, karavalenge, DharmaHelper

Jackofhearts2005
0

JaggedJimmyJay
0

juliets
0

karavalenge
0

Lunalee
0

MacDougall
0

nutella
0

poutanko
0

Quin
0

Sloonei
0

Speedchuck
3
15%

Voters: insertnamehere, Sloonei, poutanko

sprityo
0

timmer
0

Sirius Black (Host/Mod/Dead/NP)
5
25%

Voters: Kylemii, Turnip Head, Epignosis, dunya, Dragon D. Luffy

- You will never catch me alive! - INH yelled.

Unfortunately this is the world of magic we are talking about. An entire school of students and teachers hunting him, and INH was still only a student himself, even though he was evil. They caught him alive. And alive, he wasn't for long.

Abilities:

Blast-Ended Skrewt (Even Nights)
Arresto Momentum
Expecto Patronum

The Long Night begins.

Perhaps of interest:

INH, Sloonei, and poutanko all remained on speedchuck through the deadline. The lynch was clearly not being swayed, but there's another angle of import -- the House Cup. INH is a mafioso and assuming a successful lynch, votes on him will amount to House Cup points.

speedchuck is not a successful lynch today, regardless of his alignment. Those three people earned no cup points for their votes. INH's vote is obvious WIFOM, though one could wonder if it says anything about Colin and DH (and myself from your perspectives), since a self-vote is legal and would have earned more points for Gryffindor. Eschewing that inhibits the chances of winning for the three people I mentioned, which could be a decent indicator. It's a stretch, but it's something.

It's also of note that neither Sloonei nor poutanko were concerned with House Cup points apparently. Whether there's something to read into that I cannot say, and indeed I thought I would be able to do more with this post when I started typing it. But bleh, I already typed it, it's typed, so here, have a post.

So he probably killed one of juliets or Kyle on n2. Jules did your previous self use a hippogriff perhaps? That would be funny lol especially since they made you rez him too

Glad the lynch worked. Cool beans.

Good luck with your stuffs ddl!

Cool, that accounts for vigs/balance stuff

I forgot to vote INH for the DH but since he was a rez I don't think he had a hallow

Sorry about the lack of house points.

The previous subject was a lot scarier. It was Consumer Law. I just did the exam for it and I feel like I was right about everything while also being wrong about everything.

[mention]Golden[/mention]

The flip is a solid look for timmer, as it strikes me as unlikely that the mafia team was granted more than one skrewt.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:20 pm So he probably killed one of juliets or Kyle on n2. Jules did your previous self use a hippogriff perhaps? That would be funny lol especially since they made you rez him too

Yes that would be funny. I can't talk about my past abilities though, I'm sorry.

Also [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] you don't know how bad I wanted to yell at Sloonei and poutanko for staying speedchuck - they are in my house. If there was some point to not moving to INH I might understand but as far as I'm concerned they denied us all some neat little power. Not happy and I'd love to hear their explanation for it.

[mention]juliets[/mention] Back up wagon Idk if maf has anything to redirect the lynch or make it fail again and INH vote was still valid yesterday. Colin should be cleared now.

Quin should be cleared also unless maf has another member with patronum.

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] It's Divination. What I think:
>Timmer vouched for Speed and said his kill was redirected to novase that made him read Speed as Town. This make sense for me to get guilty result if Speed dodo-ing himself to novase. He said he didn't have it. There's Jay's block on Timmer also.
>I might be Imperio'd to target someone else and ended up getting guilty but that's weird, it makes more sense if maf redirect me to inno target instead of a guilty one (it's N1). Some dodo might switch my "new" intended target to a guilty one.
>No Imperio on me and some dodo hit Speed but then how did it end up with novase if Speed has no redirect himself? Novase was modblocked. More than 1 dodo?
>Secrets

Speed's posts, his interaction with LC, LC defended him and vice versa (Speed especially on N3) - not town. Act like scum, talk like scum, I won't call him Mathilda

So are we presuming that INH accidentally killed himself on night 2? I would very much like for that to be the situation.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:32 pm So are we presuming that INH accidentally killed himself on night 2? I would very much like for that to be the situation.

Then who killed Juliet 1 and someone else?

poutanko wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:32 pm So are we presuming that INH accidentally killed himself on night 2? I would very much like for that to be the situation.

Then who killed Juliet 1 and someone else?

My theory is that the mafia killed Kyle, and inh used his skrewt on juliets, and she used a hippogriff. I don't have any evidence but it's my pet theory

poutanko wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:13 pm @juliets Back up wagon Idk if maf has anything to redirect the lynch or make it fail again and INH vote was still valid yesterday. Colin should be cleared now.

Quin should be cleared also unless maf has another member with patronum.

@Sloonei It's Divination. What I think:
>Timmer vouched for Speed and said his kill was redirected to novase that made him read Speed as Town. This make sense for me to get guilty result if Speed dodo-ing himself to novase. He said he didn't have it. There's Jay's block on Timmer also.
>I might be Imperio'd to target someone else and ended up getting guilty but that's weird, it makes more sense if maf redirect me to inno target instead of a guilty one (it's N1). Some dodo might switch my "new" intended target to a guilty one.
>No Imperio on me and some dodo hit Speed but then how did it end up with novase if Speed has no redirect himself? Novase was modblocked. More than 1 dodo?
>Secrets

Speed's posts, his interaction with LC, LC defended him and vice versa (Speed especially on N3) - not town. Act like scum, talk like scum, I won't call him Mathilda

i dont get it but i agree wholeheartedly that i should be confirmed town

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:40 pm

poutanko wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:32 pm So are we presuming that INH accidentally killed himself on night 2? I would very much like for that to be the situation.

Then who killed Juliet 1 and someone else?

My theory is that the mafia killed Kyle, and inh used his skrewt on juliets, and she used a hippogriff. I don't have any evidence but it's my pet theory

We have odd night vig, there should be even night vig. I think 1 of them should be our vig's kill.

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:43 pm i dont get it but i agree wholeheartedly that i should be confirmed town

INH have patronum, you have patronum. You should be Town if no same ability on maf team

I don’t know what that gnome is but I like it.

it has the exact same facial expression as the monkey in Enrique's avatar which I don't remember what it's from

poutanko wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:46 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:43 pm i dont get it but i agree wholeheartedly that i should be confirmed town

INH have patronum, you have patronum. You should be Town if no same ability on maf team

Wait, what? INH had patronum and so does Quin but why does that make him town? And what about Colin? Why is he confirmed town? Please explain it to me like I'm 5. I'll be thrilled if both can be confirmed I just want to make sure I understand it.

It's the face you make when you say "Dude please"

[mention]juliets[/mention] I didn't say confirmed, I said "should be" town if there's no same ability on maf team. Remembering maf have access to 2 abilities/night and they are smaller in number, I incline to believe there's no identical ability within the team. This will help with their "claim" as town too if DDL cares about that. Usually it's like that on NF. Only wonder if DDL follows other NF host. For role madness game, it's expected to have a copy ability (is there a spell/magical item to enable this?) if no such thing exist, dude should be town.

Colin used Thunderbird to prevent any vote fuckery. I don't see a reason INH was revived if not for his abilities (like to survive the lynch). So he doesn't have horcrux or something like LC.

Wait...he could have it

Okay, maybe not Colin if he knows there will be no vote fuckery. But he checked inno and I feel good about him so

[mention]poutanko[/mention] who could you gimme eight players you believe to be the least likely members of the mafia team?

[mention]speedchuck[/mention], how do you feel INH's flip reflects on Quin?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:32 pm @poutanko who could you gimme eight players you believe to be the least likely members of the mafia team?

Me
No particular order:
Collin
Luna from interaction with INH
Slowner same reason as Luna. LC saved her could be just scum tactic to make people buy his towniness had people lynch her
Nutella
Glorf/Juliet 2 because truth meta
You (don't do same thing as Negan ok)
Quin
DH from LC lynch (unless it's like what MacD said)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:36 pm The flip is a solid look for timmer, as it strikes me as unlikely that the mafia team was granted more than one skrewt.

I'm trying to piece together scenarios in my head in which timmer never actually was an odd-night vigilante, and instead inferred the existence of the role because his teammate INH had an even-night version. There is no kill officially attributed to timmer after all (he said he targeted speedzeye on N1).

Is there anything we can extract from the night action gobbledygook that would eliminate this possibility?

poutanko wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:39 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:32 pm @poutanko who could you gimme eight players you believe to be the least likely members of the mafia team?

Me
No particular order:
Collin
Luna from interaction with INH
Slowner same reason as Luna. LC saved her could be just scum tactic to make people buy his towniness had people lynch her
Nutella
Glorf/Juliet 2 because truth meta
You (don't do same thing as Negan ok)
Quin
DH from LC lynch (unless it's like what MacD said)

So by POE you'd be left with a suspect pool comprised of:

speedzeye
Mac
Jack
karavalenge
sprityo
timmer

timmer is a standout name here. What do you presently make of him?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:33 pm @speedchuck, how do you feel INH's flip reflects on Quin?

You are joking, right?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:43 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:33 pm speedchuck, how do you feel INH's flip reflects on Quin?

You are joking, right?

No. I'm referring to INH's role abilities, not his alignment.

Wait no you're not.

It's a skrewt.

Hmm.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:42 pm

poutanko wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:39 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:32 pm @poutanko who could you gimme eight players you believe to be the least likely members of the mafia team?

Me
No particular order:
Collin
Luna from interaction with INH
Slowner same reason as Luna. LC saved her could be just scum tactic to make people buy his towniness had people lynch her
Nutella
Glorf/Juliet 2 because truth meta
You (don't do same thing as Negan ok)
Quin
DH from LC lynch (unless it's like what MacD said)

So by POE you'd be left with a suspect pool comprised of:

speedzeye
Mac
Jack
karavalenge
sprityo
timmer

timmer is a standout name here. What do you presently make of him?

Because he said I came out of nowhere with my claim. Same as Kara and DH. If Speed is scum, timmer has the reason of trying to discredit me for that

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:45 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:43 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:33 pm speedchuck, how do you feel INH's flip reflects on Quin?

You are joking, right?

No. I'm referring to INH's role abilities, not his alignment.

Okay no I've looked over it and I'm not sure what you're getting at.

It doesn't mean anything regarding Night 3 actions because INH was dead.

Unless you're referring to other mafia not having these abilities, which... Might be a good point? But I'm not sure where to go with it.