GAME OF CHAMPIONS 2021 Endgame (town and 3p win)

[Master Radishes]

If you guys want to articulate concerns about me into something I can respond to, by all means go for it.

Otherwise shush.

[DrWilgy]

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DrWilgy
LinearPoint
Paopan
sabie12
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

these 8 can all go based on EOD

I like the Pao inclusive.

[Justplayingitcool]

Wilgy can die

[Dyslexicon]

What about the hydra?

The hydra missed the cut. I think Mac was towny D1. Do you suspect the hydra?

[Creature]

Also those 3 deaths were obviously not all from wolves. Only Urist feels like a potential wolf kill?

No, neeko thinks Mafia definitely killed NAA.
Read NAA's role. NAA said Alison was red checked and Alison flipped Town, so Mafia would have been told NAA was what he was.

This is fair

[nutella]

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Creature
DrWilgy
hollowkatt
LinearPoint
sabie12
sig
TonyStarkPrime

Boom. If there's not wolf in here I quit mafia forever. Probably.

i like this list for the most part

i'm at leaning town on creature and lp at this point, would swap in porscha and.... idk guillo?

[LinearPoint]

112
DrWilgy
LinearPoint
Paopan
sabie12
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

these 8 can all go based on EOD

Why Neeko based on EoD?
Neeko said why Porscha was almost guaranteed to flip Mafia and stuck to her guns.
Did you even read EoD? if anything you should be on the list for shooting Alison.

[Dyslexicon]

If you guys want to articulate concerns about me into something I can respond to, by all means go for it.

Otherwise shush.

Really weird vibes tbh

[falcon45ca]

If someone asks me one more time 'are you actually a wolf/wolfing' I'm gonna do something drastic like eat a whole sandwich.

Oh snap, your gluten allergy will flair up!





Nah, MR is town. I can feel it...calling in the air tonight.




Hold on

[nutella]

wait guillo claimed vig, @Guillotine do you claim one of the shots?

[Justplayingitcool]

If you guys want to articulate concerns about me into something I can respond to, by all means go for it.

Otherwise shush.

If you are town, I don't recall you ever put so much work in overnight, as I think this comes from your scum game more often than not. Maybe that's an inaccurate view though from me?

[DrWilgy]

We could just put the people on the Sean wagon and cut that playerbase in half.
Seemed pretty Mafia driven with likely 2-3 on it.

But then we hit like 60% town easy. Bad take.

[c4e5g3d5]

Creature and hk being in this list feels silly. I'm also increasingly thinking TSP's town.

Why is that silly? I should look into HK though. My list is instinct, and it probably works way better than overthinking.

I just think they're both obvious town

[Creature]

Phil and Gloria might be wolf

[nutella]

I’m gonna bury this post here because we’re not supposed to talk about this anymore but I want to because it actually touched a slight moral nerve when I was reading over it. No one actually bother to read this please, it’s just me grumbling.

Spoiler: show

Seriously don’t bother, it’s nothing new I’m adding.

Spoiler: show

Alexa did nothing wrong, and I feel like she was being mildly gaslit by NAA and maybe one or two others. Like it was a supposed *red check* and she had a shot – doesn’t matter that NAA said ‘but let’s wait till D2’ or whatever, no one was expecting a weird role like he’s now implied, and I would’ve done the exact same as Alexa, and I think many people would’ve. And saying things like ‘I take no responsibility’ ahead of time does not magically absolve you of responsibility.

I feel like people were trying to apportion blame ‘fairly’ and…no. I don’t want to say this is all NAA’s fault in the sense he’s anti-town, because by now it’s clear why he did what he did and there’s a logic to it. But it was frustrating me to backread the blame Alexa was getting when it was, IMO, very clearly undeserved.

I chalk it up to emotions running high from all parties and have no ill feelings of my own towards anyone, but I was reading over it on my breaks at work and getting annoyed, so I kinda wanted to post this for Alexa’s sake.

Anyway don’t @ me to reopen this can.

Actually, you're probably fine.

I’m gonna bury this post here because we’re not supposed to talk about this anymore but I want to because it actually touched a slight moral nerve when I was reading over it. No one actually bother to read this please, it’s just me grumbling.

Spoiler: show

Seriously don’t bother, it’s nothing new I’m adding.

Spoiler: show

Alexa did nothing wrong, and I feel like she was being mildly gaslit by NAA and maybe one or two others. Like it was a supposed *red check* and she had a shot – doesn’t matter that NAA said ‘but let’s wait till D2’ or whatever, no one was expecting a weird role like he’s now implied, and I would’ve done the exact same as Alexa, and I think many people would’ve. And saying things like ‘I take no responsibility’ ahead of time does not magically absolve you of responsibility.

I feel like people were trying to apportion blame ‘fairly’ and…no. I don’t want to say this is all NAA’s fault in the sense he’s anti-town, because by now it’s clear why he did what he did and there’s a logic to it. But it was frustrating me to backread the blame Alexa was getting when it was, IMO, very clearly undeserved.

I chalk it up to emotions running high from all parties and have no ill feelings of my own towards anyone, but I was reading over it on my breaks at work and getting annoyed, so I kinda wanted to post this for Alexa’s sake.

Anyway don’t @ me to reopen this can.

This is wolfy

hmmmmmmmmmmm

[alexa]

Oh I missed the conditional part of NAA's role. But it was also only once per game so imo wouldn't have been that threatening?

[Dyslexicon]

i like this list for the most part

i'm at leaning town on creature and lp at this point, would swap in porscha and.... idk guillo?

I don't think Porscha. Maybe I'm missing something with Guillo and I just think I can read him while I actually can't. I probably haven't payed too much attention to his posts after I decided he was town tbh

Can someone explain why Creature is town?

[Creature]

sig and Sloonei also have mafia potential

[DrWilgy]

Wilgy can die

I probably will. Don't get yourself gushing

[Justplayingitcool]

tbh wilgy thinking radishes is wolfy makes me feel better about radishes ironically

[alexa]

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DrWilgy
LinearPoint
Paopan
sabie12
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Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

these 8 can all go based on EOD

Why Neeko based on EoD?
Neeko said why Porscha was almost guaranteed to flip Mafia and stuck to her guns.
Did you even read EoD? if anything you should be on the list for shooting Alison.

Neeko is not there based on EOD. Neeko is there based on general read on you + Urist dying

[LinearPoint]

We could just put the people on the Sean wagon and cut that playerbase in half.
Seemed pretty Mafia driven with likely 2-3 on it.

But then we hit like 60% town easy. Bad take.

Wrong.
Sean wagon: Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
Urist and NAA already dead.
Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella. At least 2 of these are Mafia. Probably 3.

[DrWilgy]

What about the hydra?

The hydra missed the cut. I think Mac was towny D1. Do you suspect the hydra?

Not really, just wanted opinions.

[nutella]

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Creature
DrWilgy
hollowkatt
LinearPoint
sabie12
sig
TonyStarkPrime

Boom. If there's not wolf in here I quit mafia forever. Probably.

Creature and hk being in this list feels silly. I'm also increasingly thinking TSP's town.

yeah i guess i'm ok on tsp too

but why hk

i feel like hk has floated around doing nothing, what has he done thats AI at all? i feel like he'd get heated about *something* as town. i have no qualms with flipping him

[Creature]

What is the reason to townread hollowkatt?

[Master Radishes]

If you guys want to articulate concerns about me into something I can respond to, by all means go for it.

Otherwise shush.

Really weird vibes tbh

Articulate better because that's obviously not good enough. I am consciously playing a *bit* differently than I usually do but not so much so that I should be attracting a 'weird vibes' read from you, imo.

[LinearPoint]

112
DrWilgy
LinearPoint
Paopan
sabie12
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

these 8 can all go based on EOD

Why Neeko based on EoD?
Neeko said why Porscha was almost guaranteed to flip Mafia and stuck to her guns.
Did you even read EoD? if anything you should be on the list for shooting Alison.

Neeko is not there based on EOD. Neeko is there based on general read on you + Urist dying

neeko does not advocate for the killing of people scum reading her.

[Dyslexicon]

I’m gonna bury this post here because we’re not supposed to talk about this anymore but I want to because it actually touched a slight moral nerve when I was reading over it. No one actually bother to read this please, it’s just me grumbling.

Spoiler: show

Seriously don’t bother, it’s nothing new I’m adding.

Spoiler: show

Alexa did nothing wrong, and I feel like she was being mildly gaslit by NAA and maybe one or two others. Like it was a supposed *red check* and she had a shot – doesn’t matter that NAA said ‘but let’s wait till D2’ or whatever, no one was expecting a weird role like he’s now implied, and I would’ve done the exact same as Alexa, and I think many people would’ve. And saying things like ‘I take no responsibility’ ahead of time does not magically absolve you of responsibility.

I feel like people were trying to apportion blame ‘fairly’ and…no. I don’t want to say this is all NAA’s fault in the sense he’s anti-town, because by now it’s clear why he did what he did and there’s a logic to it. But it was frustrating me to backread the blame Alexa was getting when it was, IMO, very clearly undeserved.

I chalk it up to emotions running high from all parties and have no ill feelings of my own towards anyone, but I was reading over it on my breaks at work and getting annoyed, so I kinda wanted to post this for Alexa’s sake.

Anyway don’t @ me to reopen this can.

Actually, you're probably fine.

I’m gonna bury this post here because we’re not supposed to talk about this anymore but I want to because it actually touched a slight moral nerve when I was reading over it. No one actually bother to read this please, it’s just me grumbling.

Spoiler: show

Seriously don’t bother, it’s nothing new I’m adding.

Spoiler: show

Alexa did nothing wrong, and I feel like she was being mildly gaslit by NAA and maybe one or two others. Like it was a supposed *red check* and she had a shot – doesn’t matter that NAA said ‘but let’s wait till D2’ or whatever, no one was expecting a weird role like he’s now implied, and I would’ve done the exact same as Alexa, and I think many people would’ve. And saying things like ‘I take no responsibility’ ahead of time does not magically absolve you of responsibility.

I feel like people were trying to apportion blame ‘fairly’ and…no. I don’t want to say this is all NAA’s fault in the sense he’s anti-town, because by now it’s clear why he did what he did and there’s a logic to it. But it was frustrating me to backread the blame Alexa was getting when it was, IMO, very clearly undeserved.

I chalk it up to emotions running high from all parties and have no ill feelings of my own towards anyone, but I was reading over it on my breaks at work and getting annoyed, so I kinda wanted to post this for Alexa’s sake.

Anyway don’t @ me to reopen this can.

This is wolfy

hmmmmmmmmmmm

I don't know if MR does all that as mafia, it's like icky fake comforting? But actually, it's probably nothing or not really AI.

[DrWilgy]

tbh wilgy thinking radishes is wolfy makes me feel better about radishes ironically

Preflipping me is a bad take.

[Dyslexicon]

If you guys want to articulate concerns about me into something I can respond to, by all means go for it.

Otherwise shush.

Really weird vibes tbh

Articulate better because that's obviously not good enough. I am consciously playing a *bit* differently than I usually do but not so much so that I should be attracting a 'weird vibes' read from you, imo.

It got worse.

[DrWilgy]

tbh wilgy thinking radishes is wolfy makes me feel better about radishes ironically

Preflipping me is a bad take.

Like, because it's me specifically.

[c4e5g3d5]

112
Creature
DrWilgy
hollowkatt
LinearPoint
sabie12
sig
TonyStarkPrime

Boom. If there's not wolf in here I quit mafia forever. Probably.

i like this list for the most part

i'm at leaning town on creature and lp at this point, would swap in porscha and.... idk guillo?

I'm not ready to cap him myself, but I kinda wanna see what happens with ilario in there.

[dyachei]

relly think sig kind of derped himself clear, creature

[Creature]

We could just put the people on the Sean wagon and cut that playerbase in half.
Seemed pretty Mafia driven with likely 2-3 on it.

But then we hit like 60% town easy. Bad take.

Wrong.
Sean wagon: Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
Urist and NAA already dead.
Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella. At least 2 of these are Mafia. Probably 3.

Two of them just died so that leaves Paopan, Belzy, TSP, Wilgy and nutella

[nutella]

112
DrWilgy
LinearPoint
Paopan
sabie12
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

these 8 can all go based on EOD

actually i like this list most so far

[DrWilgy]

We could just put the people on the Sean wagon and cut that playerbase in half.
Seemed pretty Mafia driven with likely 2-3 on it.

But then we hit like 60% town easy. Bad take.

Wrong.
Sean wagon: Urist, NotAnAxehole, Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
Urist and NAA already dead.
Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella. At least 2 of these are Mafia. Probably 3.

Hmmm.. I suppose you are correct.

[Creature]

I don't get the Belzy townreads

[Dyslexicon]

Creature and hk being in this list feels silly. I'm also increasingly thinking TSP's town.

Why is that silly? I should look into HK though. My list is instinct, and it probably works way better than overthinking.

I just think they're both obvious town

But why do you think that? Can it be expressed?

[Creature]

Also I suspect Wilgy might also be town and wolves were scattered among them and Ender

[Justplayingitcool]

i like this list for the most part

i'm at leaning town on creature and lp at this point, would swap in porscha and.... idk guillo?

I don't think Porscha. Maybe I'm missing something with Guillo and I just think I can read him while I actually can't. I probably haven't payed too much attention to his posts after I decided he was town tbh

Can someone explain why Creature is town?

In his scum game, I seem to recall him pushing a much harder agenda and was a lot stiffer in how he interacted. In the town game I have seen, he just seems detached from everything and that reminds me a little bit of that. It's mainly meta which isn't strong.

Only scummy thing I remember was the marmot interaction I had with him

[LinearPoint]

Paopan, Belzy, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, nutella
These are the living people who pushed Sean last second.
Wiggly did so out of self preservation, so that is not going to be AI.
The other 4 though have at least 1 Mafia with a very high likely hood another Mafia or Wiggly being Mafia. Wiggly still kinda coinflipp though honestly.

[Dyslexicon]

I don't get the Belzy townreads

She derped. And it looked like a genuine derp in the moment. I haven't gone back to recheck it. I think she's probably towny in other ways, but tbh I just assumed the derp was real.

[DrWilgy]

I’m gonna bury this post here because we’re not supposed to talk about this anymore but I want to because it actually touched a slight moral nerve when I was reading over it. No one actually bother to read this please, it’s just me grumbling.

Spoiler: show

Seriously don’t bother, it’s nothing new I’m adding.

Spoiler: show

Alexa did nothing wrong, and I feel like she was being mildly gaslit by NAA and maybe one or two others. Like it was a supposed *red check* and she had a shot – doesn’t matter that NAA said ‘but let’s wait till D2’ or whatever, no one was expecting a weird role like he’s now implied, and I would’ve done the exact same as Alexa, and I think many people would’ve. And saying things like ‘I take no responsibility’ ahead of time does not magically absolve you of responsibility.

I feel like people were trying to apportion blame ‘fairly’ and…no. I don’t want to say this is all NAA’s fault in the sense he’s anti-town, because by now it’s clear why he did what he did and there’s a logic to it. But it was frustrating me to backread the blame Alexa was getting when it was, IMO, very clearly undeserved.

I chalk it up to emotions running high from all parties and have no ill feelings of my own towards anyone, but I was reading over it on my breaks at work and getting annoyed, so I kinda wanted to post this for Alexa’s sake.

Anyway don’t @ me to reopen this can.

Actually, you're probably fine.

I’m gonna bury this post here because we’re not supposed to talk about this anymore but I want to because it actually touched a slight moral nerve when I was reading over it. No one actually bother to read this please, it’s just me grumbling.

Spoiler: show

Seriously don’t bother, it’s nothing new I’m adding.

Spoiler: show

Alexa did nothing wrong, and I feel like she was being mildly gaslit by NAA and maybe one or two others. Like it was a supposed *red check* and she had a shot – doesn’t matter that NAA said ‘but let’s wait till D2’ or whatever, no one was expecting a weird role like he’s now implied, and I would’ve done the exact same as Alexa, and I think many people would’ve. And saying things like ‘I take no responsibility’ ahead of time does not magically absolve you of responsibility.

I feel like people were trying to apportion blame ‘fairly’ and…no. I don’t want to say this is all NAA’s fault in the sense he’s anti-town, because by now it’s clear why he did what he did and there’s a logic to it. But it was frustrating me to backread the blame Alexa was getting when it was, IMO, very clearly undeserved.

I chalk it up to emotions running high from all parties and have no ill feelings of my own towards anyone, but I was reading over it on my breaks at work and getting annoyed, so I kinda wanted to post this for Alexa’s sake.

Anyway don’t @ me to reopen this can.

This is wolfy

hmmmmmmmmmmm

I don't know if MR does all that as mafia, it's like icky fake comforting? But actually, it's probably nothing or not really AI.

I think it's an easy wolf post if Alexa is town.

[alexa]

I may be pocketed by MR but I think he's a villager.

Also, why did NAA claim a red instead of a green tbh, 2 confirmed greens would've been better and I HAD A GUN

[Master Radishes]

If you guys want to articulate concerns about me into something I can respond to, by all means go for it.

Otherwise shush.

If you are town, I don't recall you ever put so much work in overnight, as I think this comes from your scum game more often than not. Maybe that's an inaccurate view though from me?

Explained in passing already: I am consciously putting in more effort since it is GoC and it was a big game with cool people and all that. Also because I knew it'd be a mad posting game and I'd fall way behind if I didn't force myself to keep up somewhat.

I didn't actually do much 'work' anyway - just read the NAA thing and pre-typed a single post.

[nutella]

wait the poll says 4 options, isn't it supposed to be 8 first then 4

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME it's only allowing 4 options

[Creature]

Yesterday's EOD wagons were NAA, Ender, Wilgy and Seanzie

It's very possible they were all town

[falcon45ca]

Pao, Ender



1 or both is Maf

[LinearPoint]

3 is actually probably a bit too high for scum pushing Sean with only 5 people on it.
But that is not a wagon that is formed solely of town ever.

[falcon45ca]

Yesterday's EOD wagons were NAA, Ender, Wilgy and Seanzie

It's very possible they were all town

This guy could be Maf too