The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:37 am**

Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I don't struggle to see a reality where Quin is the last baddie and over the last two day phases he's been trying to force the win by mislynching Dom. I'm open to talking about that.
I have been voting for Dom since before we were in Lylo, so that's not it.

You don't have information either, so I'm forced to ask myself these questions. You never voted for Glorfindel and you haven't given Epignosis much of your attention. You've actively campaigned to lynch someone else.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:39 am**

Hey 3J.

I'm going to make up riddles to satisfy my intrinsic desire to give you clues as to who my teammate could be.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:40 am**

Go for it. I make no promise to put any weight in anything you say.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:41 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Go for it. I make no promise to put any weight in anything you say.

Aw, never mind then. I'm tired.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:42 am**

Me too. I wish y'all would have released me from this homework ages ago.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:44 am**

Sloonei must be plotting his approach to the final day in the baddie chat.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:46 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I don't struggle to see a reality where Quin is the last baddie and over the last two day phases he's been trying to force the win by mislynching Dom. I'm open to talking about that.
I have been voting for Dom since before we were in Lylo, so that's not it.
You don't have information either, so I'm forced to ask myself these questions. You never voted for Glorfindel and you haven't given Epignosis much of your attention. You've actively campaigned to lynch someone else.

I'm actively campaigning to lynch someone who is bad. Information or not, pretty much the only thing I have felt confident in since Day 6 is this read. I intend to keep voting this way. Even with Epi now doing the thing he is doing.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:50 am**

Quin wrote:I intend to keep voting this way. Even with Epi now doing the thing he is doing.

What if there are unseen shenanigans that might affect the tally and disrupt the lynch because it is too close? What do you hope to gain from your voting behavior?

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:51 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:I intend to keep voting this way. Even with Epi now doing the thing he is doing.
What if there are unseen shenanigans that might affect the tally and disrupt the lynch because it is too close? What do you hope to gain from your voting behavior?

What if I'm not bad and I'm just throwing the game?

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:54 am**

Epignosis wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:I intend to keep voting this way. Even with Epi now doing the thing he is doing.
What if there are unseen shenanigans that might affect the tally and disrupt the lynch because it is too close? What do you hope to gain from your voting behavior?
What if I'm not bad and I'm just throwing the game?

I know you enjoy your neener neeners, but I don't think that's something you'd do. You're a lot of things as a Mafia player, but one of those things is not petulant.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:55 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:I intend to keep voting this way. Even with Epi now doing the thing he is doing.
What if there are unseen shenanigans that might affect the tally and disrupt the lynch because it is too close? What do you hope to gain from your voting behavior?

I hope to gain a dead baddie. The same question applies to you, but I imagine you'll have the same answer.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:56 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:I intend to keep voting this way. Even with Epi now doing the thing he is doing.
What if there are unseen shenanigans that might affect the tally and disrupt the lynch because it is too close? What do you hope to gain from your voting behavior?
What if I'm not bad and I'm just throwing the game?
I know you enjoy your neener neeners, but I don't think that's something you'd do. You're a lot of things as a Mafia player, but one of those things is not petulant.

That's true. You all have fun. I promise not to interfere anymore. Too much on my plate.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:58 am**

Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:I intend to keep voting this way. Even with Epi now doing the thing he is doing.
What if there are unseen shenanigans that might affect the tally and disrupt the lynch because it is too close? What do you hope to gain from your voting behavior?
I hope to gain a dead baddie. The same question applies to you, but I imagine you'll have the same answer.

Do you think that, as of right this moment, Dom is more likely to be a baddie than Epignosis?

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:58 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:I intend to keep voting this way. Even with Epi now doing the thing he is doing.
What if there are unseen shenanigans that might affect the tally and disrupt the lynch because it is too close? What do you hope to gain from your voting behavior?
I hope to gain a dead baddie. The same question applies to you, but I imagine you'll have the same answer.
Do you think that, as of right this moment, Dom is more likely to be a baddie than Epignosis?

Yes.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:00 am**

Quin wrote:Yes.

That's hard to understand in a game where no roles have information.

We have:

1. Dom, a player for whom you have built a substantial case (and I understand your suspicion).

2. Epignosis, a player who has only barely come short of saying "yes, I'm bad".

?

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:05 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:Yes.
That's hard to understand in a game where no roles have information.

We have:

1. Dom, a player for whom you have built a substantial case (and I understand your suspicion).

2. Epignosis, a player who has only barely come short of saying "yes, I'm bad".

?

What's good enough for you is not good enough for me. Every time I look at Dom's post I see absolutely nothing but 'I am bad'. When I look at Epignosis I see 'I am suspicious'. I made my choice, and the thought of changing my mind feels like I'm hacking at my brain with a cheese grater.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:09 am**

Quin wrote:What's good enough for you is not good enough for me. Every time I look at Dom's post I see absolutely nothing but 'I am bad'. When I look at Epignosis I see 'I am suspicious'. I made my choice, and the thought of changing my mind feels like I'm hacking at my brain with a cheese grater.

I mean, I'm not even saying Epignosis is "suspicious". I'm not saying he "looks bad".

I'm saying he's conceded his lynch.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:15 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:What's good enough for you is not good enough for me. Every time I look at Dom's post I see absolutely nothing but 'I am bad'. When I look at Epignosis I see 'I am suspicious'. I made my choice, and the thought of changing my mind feels like I'm hacking at my brain with a cheese grater.
I mean, I'm not even saying Epignosis is "suspicious". I'm not saying he "looks bad".

I'm saying he's conceded his lynch.

Is that good enough for you to prioritise over the time that's been spent developing numerous cases on Dom, one which you and almost everyone else has entertained? I think you're choosing to lynch someone who's playing for the shits and giggles over someone who's every post is indicative of him being bad.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:18 am**

Quin wrote:Is that good enough for you to prioritise over the time that's been spent developing numerous cases on Dom, one which you and almost everyone else has entertained? I think you're choosing to lynch someone who's playing for the shits and giggles over someone who's every post is indicative of him being bad.

No, I'm choosing the lynch the person who has admitted their guilt. It isn't a "read" anymore. He's a confirmed baddie. I don't understand what you mean.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:19 am**

The case against Dom could be the most riveting, compelling case to ever exist in a Mafia game and he still wouldn't be confirmed as Epi is. This is my confusion.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:21 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Dom wrote:idk how else to tell you i'm not bad.
A good first step would be to stop trying. Defending yourself is less useful than finding the last baddie. That should be our only concern.

please tell me how to do that when i've been the lynch alternative in many lynches.

Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I don't struggle to see a reality where Quin is the last baddie and over the last two day phases he's been trying to force the win by mislynching Dom. I'm open to talking about that.
I have been voting for Dom since before we were in Lylo, so that's not it.
You don't have information either, so I'm forced to ask myself these questions. You never voted for Glorfindel and you haven't given Epignosis much of your attention. You've actively campaigned to lynch someone else.
I'm actively campaigning to lynch someone who is bad. Information or not, pretty much the only thing I have felt confident in since Day 6 is this read. I intend to keep voting this way. Even with Epi now doing the thing he is doing.

LOL LISTENING TO MY REPSONSES MY ASS

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:21 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:The case against Dom could be the most riveting, compelling case to ever exist in a Mafia game and he still wouldn't be confirmed as Epi is. This is my confusion.

Like Epi with Glorf, he just wants the game to end.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:23 am**

Dom wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:The case against Dom could be the most riveting, compelling case to ever exist in a Mafia game and he still wouldn't be confirmed as Epi is. This is my confusion.
Like Epi with Glorf, he just wants the game to end.

Why not do that after the Epi lynch when he wouldn't have to answer these obvious questions?

Y'all make no sense.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:25 am**

Dom wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Dom wrote:idk how else to tell you i'm not bad.
A good first step would be to stop trying. Defending yourself is less useful than finding the last baddie. That should be our only concern.
please tell me how to do that when i've been the lynch alternative in many lynches.

Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I don't struggle to see a reality where Quin is the last baddie and over the last two day phases he's been trying to force the win by mislynching Dom. I'm open to talking about that.
I have been voting for Dom since before we were in Lylo, so that's not it.
You don't have information either, so I'm forced to ask myself these questions. You never voted for Glorfindel and you haven't given Epignosis much of your attention. You've actively campaigned to lynch someone else.
I'm actively campaigning to lynch someone who is bad. Information or not, pretty much the only thing I have felt confident in since Day 6 is this read. I intend to keep voting this way. Even with Epi now doing the thing he is doing.
LOL LISTENING TO MY REPSONSES MY ASS

I am listening. Your responses aren't cutting it. For a period you flat out refused to talk to me, which did not help.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:26 am**

Quin, you have given me zero evidence that you care about Sloonei. Show me that you care about Sloonei.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:28 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:The case against Dom could be the most riveting, compelling case to ever exist in a Mafia game and he still wouldn't be confirmed as Epi is. This is my confusion.

He is not confirmed until there is a flip. Him conceding the lynch is just another piece of evidence to consider, and Dom still looks worse to me.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:29 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Quin, you have given me zero evidence that you care about Sloonei. Show me that you care about Sloonei.

I don't care about Sloonei. What investigation I have done on him hasn't put him anywhere near the same level as Dom.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:29 am**

Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:The case against Dom could be the most riveting, compelling case to ever exist in a Mafia game and he still wouldn't be confirmed as Epi is. This is my confusion.
He is not confirmed until there is a flip. Him conceding the lynch is just another piece of evidence to consider, and Dom still looks worse to me.

In what universe is Epignosis ever town right now?

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:31 am**

Quin wrote:What investigation I have done on him

This is a thing?

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:32 am**

Dom wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Dom wrote:idk how else to tell you i'm not bad.
A good first step would be to stop trying. Defending yourself is less useful than finding the last baddie. That should be our only concern.
please tell me how to do that when i've been the lynch alternative in many lynches.

I don't know why that matters. We have to lynch a baddie or we lose. If it's not you, show us who it is. Make a case and sell the other townies. You're probably not going to be capable of clearing yourself in this situation. It's just reality.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:33 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:The case against Dom could be the most riveting, compelling case to ever exist in a Mafia game and he still wouldn't be confirmed as Epi is. This is my confusion.
He is not confirmed until there is a flip. Him conceding the lynch is just another piece of evidence to consider, and Dom still looks worse to me.
In what universe is Epignosis ever town right now?

The universe that he's completely screwing with us. The universe that Dom's teammate is someone else. I still haven't looked into LoRab or Sloonei for that possibility.

In what universe is Dom ever town right now?

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:33 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:What investigation I have done on him
This is a thing?

Sure. I don't know whether it's public or not, but I have read the posts of every single person in this game at least once.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:35 am**

Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:The case against Dom could be the most riveting, compelling case to ever exist in a Mafia game and he still wouldn't be confirmed as Epi is. This is my confusion.
He is not confirmed until there is a flip. Him conceding the lynch is just another piece of evidence to consider, and Dom still looks worse to me.
In what universe is Epignosis ever town right now?
The universe that he's completely screwing with us.

That universe doesn't exist for a town Epignosis. He even said as much. He is a proud and competitive player who isn't going to throw a game away because of his own boredom. That's well beneath him and nearly anyone else. Would you ever do that?

Quin wrote:In what universe is Dom ever town right now?

The universe where you're bad.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:36 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:The case against Dom could be the most riveting, compelling case to ever exist in a Mafia game and he still wouldn't be confirmed as Epi is. This is my confusion.
He is not confirmed until there is a flip. Him conceding the lynch is just another piece of evidence to consider, and Dom still looks worse to me.
In what universe is Epignosis ever town right now?
The universe that he's completely screwing with us.
That universe doesn't exist for a town Epignosis. He even said as much. He is a proud and competitive player who isn't going to throw a game away because of his own boredom. That's well beneath him and nearly anyone else. Would you ever do that?

Quin wrote:In what universe is Dom ever town right now?
The universe where you're bad.

That is not a universe that exists.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:39 am**

Anyway Quin: what do you think of Sloonei seldom poking around here lately without doing much?

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:42 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Anyway Quin: what do you think of Sloonei seldom poking around here lately without doing much?

I have absolutely no opinion. He is not the type to shy the thread when he's bad, and I do not think that choosing not to post is something that should be considered suspicious.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:45 am**

In the Quin vs. Dom war of Day 9, here's the score:

Quin 1
Dom 0

1 point awarded to Quin for making and promoting a substantive case.
0 points awarded to Dom for playing defense and sort of/kind of giving an omgus against Quin.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:47 am**

I might have given Quin 2 points, but I reduced it to 1 because I'm paranoid that he is deliberately ignoring the obviousness of Epi's alignment so he can continue pushing fruitlessly for his Dom mislynch. Even if he carries it into true LyLo he has the advantage of looking like he's invested.

I think it's illogical behavior. Logic and townies don't always mix though.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:48 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Sloonei must be plotting his approach to the final day in the baddie chat.

Got any pointers?

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:49 am**

Sloonei wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Sloonei must be plotting his approach to the final day in the baddie chat.
Got any pointers?

You gonna WIFOM me on Day 9? You gonna WIFOM me at LyLo? How dare you.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:20 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I might have given Quin 2 points, but I reduced it to 1 because I'm paranoid that he is deliberately ignoring the obviousness of Epi's alignment so he can continue pushing fruitlessly for his Dom mislynch. Even if he carries it into true LyLo he has the advantage of looking like he's invested.

I think it's illogical behavior. Logic and townies don't always mix though.

I'm not ignoring anything. There is a good chance Epi is bad, but there is a better chance that Dom is. If we're wrong we won't get another shot. So I'm not going to put my faith in a case that isn't as strong as the persons I've been pushing since Day 6 and have absolutely no reason to doubt.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:21 am**

The Syndicate is giving me shit again, hopefully it sorts itself out soon. I'll be back when it has.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:26 am**

I was having issues too, but it's letting me in now. Hopefully that was a brief hiccup.

How would you feel if I refuse to vote for Dom today, Quin?

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:37 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I was having issues too, but it's letting me in now. Hopefully that was a brief hiccup.

How would you feel if I refuse to vote for Dom today, Quin?

Anxious and upset. Do you refuse to vote for Dom?

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:38 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Anyway Quin: what do you think of Sloonei seldom poking around here lately without doing much?

If it helps, I have not had a full day off in a week. That all changes tomorrow, I'm very excited.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:38 am**

Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I was having issues too, but it's letting me in now. Hopefully that was a brief hiccup.

How would you feel if I refuse to vote for Dom today, Quin?
Anxious and upset. Do you refuse to vote for Dom?

Do you have an opinion on Epi?

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:40 am**

Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I was having issues too, but it's letting me in now. Hopefully that was a brief hiccup.

How would you feel if I refuse to vote for Dom today, Quin?
Anxious and upset. Do you refuse to vote for Dom?

It's fun because I think we're most likely arguing about the two baddies.

I'd be hard to convince though that the case against Dom is stronger than Epignosis resigning gracefully today.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:41 am**

Sloonei wrote:Do you have an opinion on Epi?

Do you have an opinion on Epi?

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:42 am**

Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I was having issues too, but it's letting me in now. Hopefully that was a brief hiccup.

How would you feel if I refuse to vote for Dom today, Quin?
Anxious and upset. Do you refuse to vote for Dom?
Do you have an opinion on Epi?

His sudden 180 is suspicious, but it is not the most suspicious thing and not something I am going to place a vote for at Lylo.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:42 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Sloonei wrote:Do you have an opinion on Epi?
Do you have an opinion on Epi?

Do you have an opinion on Epi?

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