The Syndicate

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:58 pm**

If you get rid of TSP for whatever reason I can cover flavour knowledge

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:59 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:55 pm Reads more like a w/t interaction to me. Perhaps Alison can share why she felt it's w/w

Where in that post is KZA interested in unearthing Marmot's alignment?

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:59 pm**

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:58 pm If you get rid of TSP for whatever reason I can cover flavour knowledge

flavour knowledge?

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:59 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:59 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:55 pm Reads more like a w/t interaction to me. Perhaps Alison can share why she felt it's w/w
Where in that post is KZA interested in unearthing Marmot's alignment?

Why do I have to do that while answering a basic reads question?

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:59 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:56 pm hi, i just got out of a work meeting

i should be hard spewed a non-teammate with marmot. i pushed and cased marmot aggressively throughout the game, and it would be stupidly suicidal to bus someone with his particular role in the way that i did

i will chop someone else from the other team and then hard spew myself as 100% clear. wolves should be nervous.

I already tried that in NPO. Good luck ever doing anything this game lol

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:00 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:58 pm
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:56 pm I gave Al sama an in to this game by being able to talk about me but he did me wrong and I generally scumread him
why?

I know his style, he doesn't seem like town to me. He completely got me wrong despite knowing better

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:00 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:17 pm My list of 9 goes as such, and I will only expand on a player when asked/prompted.

Alison, Al Sam, nanook, tutuu, LC, Marmot, Ted, Michelle TSP

My new list of 9 goes as such, and I will only expand on a player when asked/prompted

Al Sam, nanook, LC, ted, Michelle, TSP, Dom, Odd, Alison

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:00 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:57 pm I have you as a very strong town read

What happened between Alison null to this? I don't think we've talked much in the thread since then except for you watching my catchup while drunk?

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:00 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:58 pm Marmot is run up. Al_sama is run up. Marmot votes Al_sama. This is obvious because when you are run up you vote the counterwagon as self-pres regardless of alignment. But Marmot claims it is not self-pres, Marmot claims it is authentic suspicion. (I called this out when I saw it. The towncred can be deposited directly in my bank account.) At the time Marmot does this he does not know that Al_sama will not be exed D1.

If Marmot thought Al_sama would flip town, he does not say "Al_sama is my scumread". He says "I am voting Al_sama because of self-pres". That way if Al_sama flips town he can say "so what? I said it was a self-pres vote, didn't I?"

If Marmot has Al_sama as a teammate, he knows his team is in deep shit. Therefore he tries to bus by saying "Al_sama is actually a wolf". That way if Al_sama flips wolf, he gets cred and maybe can skate by another day like he always does as mafia. If he goes down maybe he gets some nice anti-spew on Al_sama.

Therefore Al_sama is Marmot's teammate.

sure

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:01 pm**

Marmot team suspects are:
Ted, kZa, LC, Al Sama, Oddmerta

Other team suspects are:
TSP, Nanook, JPIC, Sloonei, Fingersplints, SPF, LC

That LC is present in both makes him more likely town.

SPF feels townie but I reserve suspicion on her still.

All my town are townreading Sloonei. I really wish they'd explain why logically.

I am willing to towncore anyone I haven't names.

If you are town and in this mix. Get townier.

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:01 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:59 pm
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:58 pm If you get rid of TSP for whatever reason I can cover flavour knowledge
flavour knowledge?

I've watched Fargo Season 2 multiple times and bonus I played in novaselinenevers Season 1 game

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:01 pm**

i think that marmot spewed the tutuu slot as a non-partner

thoughts?

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:01 pm**

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:56 pm I gave Al sama an in to this game by being able to talk about me but he did me wrong and I generally scumread him

Fabulous. This is not w/w. So that team composition is dead.

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:02 pm**

If Ted is indeed Kansas City I think his nudging and shade on me should make it unlikely I was exactly w/w/w with him and Marmot

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:02 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:59 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:55 pm Reads more like a w/t interaction to me. Perhaps Alison can share why she felt it's w/w
Where in that post is KZA interested in unearthing Marmot's alignment?

Are you saying that you expect all players to attempt to unearth another's alignment when they are asked a question?

I see it as a wolf trying to engage a town person with questions, and then awkwardly exiting the conversation

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:02 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:01 pm i think that marmot spewed the tutuu slot as a non-partner

thoughts?

i agree

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:02 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:01 pm Marmot team suspects are:
Ted, kZa, LC, Al Sama, Oddmerta

Other team suspects are:
TSP, Nanook, JPIC, Sloonei, Fingersplints, SPF, LC

That LC is present in both makes him more likely town.

SPF feels townie but I reserve suspicion on her still.

All my town are townreading Sloonei. I really wish they'd explain why logically.

I am willing to towncore anyone I haven't names.

If you are town and in this mix. Get townier.

After ted tried to misexe me? Get me off that list please

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:02 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:17 pm My list of 9 goes as such, and I will only expand on a player when asked/prompted.

Alison, Al Sam, nanook, tutuu, LC, Marmot, Ted, Michelle TSP
My new list of 9 goes as such, and I will only expand on a player when asked/prompted

Al Sam, nanook, LC, ted, Michelle, TSP, Dom, Odd, Alison

Expand on nanook & michelle pls

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:02 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:01 pm SPF feels townie but I reserve suspicion on her still.

No.

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:02 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:01 pm i think that marmot spewed the tutuu slot as a non-partner

thoughts?

yes

for the open wolf accusation right?

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:02 pm**

we should sheep mac this game

kill whoever he tells you

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:02 pm**

@Kansas City Mafia team

You should definitely kill someone you suspect to be Gerhardt Mafia. Until we get a flip for both mafia teams, you’re going to face a severe hunting imbalance in the thread. You’re simply easier to find.

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:03 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:00 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:57 pm I have you as a very strong town read
What happened between Alison null to this? I don't think we've talked much in the thread since then except for you watching my catchup while drunk?

you made towny posts

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:03 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:01 pm Marmot team suspects are:
Ted, kZa, LC, Al Sama, Oddmerta

Other team suspects are:
TSP, Nanook, JPIC, Sloonei, Fingersplints, SPF, LC

That LC is present in both makes him more likely town.

SPF feels townie but I reserve suspicion on her still.

All my town are townreading Sloonei. I really wish they'd explain why logically.

I am willing to towncore anyone I haven't names.

If you are town and in this mix. Get townier.

You recently had myself as a Marmot team suspect. What changed for you?

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:03 pm**

Al_sama and tedxtr in the scum chat wondering how they're going to get out of this one.

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:04 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:02 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:01 pm i think that marmot spewed the tutuu slot as a non-partner

thoughts?
yes

for the open wolf accusation right?

somewhat - it's more that marmot used tutuu as an anchor to get his head into the game. marmot made a point of constantly defaulting to his suspicion against tutuu whenever it was clear that he didn't know what he was supposed to be posting. i do not think that marmot busses in that particular way when he was as clearly lost as he was

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:04 pm**

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:01 pm Marmot team suspects are:
Ted, kZa, LC, Al Sama, Oddmerta

Other team suspects are:
TSP, Nanook, JPIC, Sloonei, Fingersplints, SPF, LC

That LC is present in both makes him more likely town.

SPF feels townie but I reserve suspicion on her still.

All my town are townreading Sloonei. I really wish they'd explain why logically.

I am willing to towncore anyone I haven't names.

If you are town and in this mix. Get townier.
After ted tried to misexe me? Get me off that list please

Ted isn't a flipped wolf yet. I don't have to disalign you to him specifically. But its worthy of note.

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:04 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:01 pm i think that marmot spewed the tutuu slot as a non-partner

thoughts?

I think Hally did enough work against Marmot (who had an important power role) that I am willing to clear them of being teammates.

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:05 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:02 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:59 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:55 pm Reads more like a w/t interaction to me. Perhaps Alison can share why she felt it's w/w
Where in that post is KZA interested in unearthing Marmot's alignment?
Are you saying that you expect all players to attempt to unearth another's alignment when they are asked a question?

I see it as a wolf trying to engage a town person with questions, and then awkwardly exiting the conversation

I think the noise:signal ratio in that interaction was high. There was a lot more performativeness than genuine inquisitiveness; this is likely when both participants know each other's alignment.

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:05 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:03 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:01 pm Marmot team suspects are:
Ted, kZa, LC, Al Sama, Oddmerta

Other team suspects are:
TSP, Nanook, JPIC, Sloonei, Fingersplints, SPF, LC

That LC is present in both makes him more likely town.

SPF feels townie but I reserve suspicion on her still.

All my town are townreading Sloonei. I really wish they'd explain why logically.

I am willing to towncore anyone I haven't names.

If you are town and in this mix. Get townier.
You recently had myself as a Marmot team suspect. What changed for you?

I forgot to write your name down on the post.

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:05 pm**

fwiw if i was bussing marmot i would have buried him more. but instead i voted him and made my suspicion on him clear but in a way that would glean me no real cred from his flip

therefore i’m lock clear

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:05 pm**

Marmots fake claim makes my claim look like dogshit now, won't say my ability but my flavour is Trooper Milch.

A random ass side character that had no impact on the story at all

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:06 pm**

odd is town for thinking that having a side character is bad

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:07 pm**

but also this means my alison has info on odd theory is wrong

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:07 pm**

but also this means my alison has info on odd theory is wrong

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:07 pm**

TSP are your top scum really Michelle and Strawhenge?

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:07 pm**

@tedxtr can you tel me why haven't you been pushy??

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:07 pm**

I have mech knowledge that Trooper Milch is a real role and not a safe claim. I repeat, my role card confirms that Trooper Milch is a real role, aligned with the town. and not a safe claim. Oddmerta is lock town.

Do not claim flavor or abilities further. Mafia likely has a soupkill. I am probably dead tonight because I am too trusted and I have claimed PR. They might even be able to figure out my role and soupkill me from there. However I didn't want to go out without at least confirming Odd.

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:08 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:07 pm TSP are your top scum really Michelle and Strawhenge?

no I literally have an ordered poe

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:08 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:07 pm but also this means my alison has info on odd theory is wrong

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:07 pm I have mech knowledge that Trooper Milch is a real role and not a safe claim. I repeat, my role card confirms that Trooper Milch is a real role, aligned with the town. and not a safe claim. Oddmerta is lock town.

Do not claim flavor or abilities further. Mafia likely has a soupkill. I am probably dead tonight because I am too trusted and I have claimed PR. They might even be able to figure out my role and soupkill me from there. However I didn't want to go out without at least confirming Odd.

lol

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:08 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:07 pm I have mech knowledge that Trooper Milch is a real role and not a safe claim. I repeat, my role card confirms that Trooper Milch is a real role, aligned with the town. and not a safe claim. Oddmerta is lock town.

Do not claim flavor or abilities further. Mafia likely has a soupkill. I am probably dead tonight because I am too trusted and I have claimed PR. They might even be able to figure out my role and soupkill me from there. However I didn't want to go out without at least confirming Odd.

this is what i figured

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:09 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:54 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:53 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:52 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:45 pm Multiball explains why TSP was tilting me so hard. He was genuinely scum hunting but in a narrower world. So he was shielding teammates but his scumreads are probably quite accurate.
Why are you talking about multi ball?
Marmot flipped a specific mafia faction, which implies there's another lurking in the shadows.
Now I gotta catch two mafia teams?

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:59 pm
Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:58 pm If you get rid of TSP for whatever reason I can cover flavour knowledge
flavour knowledge?

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:09 pm**

I need to finish an essay. Someone go look into all the people who tried to push Odd for being LHF.

LC did. I think TSP/ted did, can't remember which. Maybe both. Those guys are suspicious.

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:09 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:55 am
Spoiler: show
Look, there is only one way this can go
Poll runs till Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option

AL_sama
4
19%
Voters: JaggedJimmyJay, MacDougall, tutuu, Alison
Alison
1
5%
Voters: falcon45ca
BoKnows
1
5%
Voters: Justplayingitcool
Dom
0
No votes
Voters: None
Esooa
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
fingersplints
0
No votes
Voters: None
JaggedJimmyJay
0
No votes
Voters: None
Justplayingitcool
1
5%
Voters: Oddmerta
KZA
1
5%
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDougall
0
No votes
Voters: None
Marmot
1
5%
Voters: staypositivefriend
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
1
5%
Voters: KZA
Oddmerta
3
14%
Voters: BoKnows, tedxtr, Long Con
Sloonei
0
No votes
Voters: None
staypositivefriend
0
No votes
Voters: None
Strawhenge
0
No votes
Voters: None
tedxtr
1
5%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime
TonyStarkPrime
2
10%
Voters: fingersplints, Esooa
tutuu
2
10%
Voters: Sloonei, Marmot
Unvote
0
No votes
Voters: None
No Elimination
0
No votes
Voters: None
Is one of them the "hard way"? (Host/Dead/Non)
3
14%
Voters: nutella, Epignosis, novaselinenever
Total votes: 21

I don't have time to play at work

I looked earlier at the thread and i saw a post mentioning a tie between Marmot and Odd, now Marmot's wagon dissipated and Al is top wagon

I decided to keep this VC and I will do it again, i forgot we need some VCs.

I will cast a vote on Marmot, probably that wagon have to exist. No, i didn't read and I will appreciate if someone tells me a towny activity from Marmot explaining the votes movement.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Can people stare at this and unpack it plz

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:10 pm**

AL_sama wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:07 pm @tedxtr can you tel me why haven't you been pushy??

i've barely read anything

and on syndicate i consider it a vacation, other people usually do the work and my engine warms up later

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:10 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:08 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:07 pm TSP are your top scum really Michelle and Strawhenge?
no I literally have an ordered poe

When I asked who you were pushing you said those 2. Why?

What's your POE?

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:10 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:08 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:07 pm I have mech knowledge that Trooper Milch is a real role and not a safe claim. I repeat, my role card confirms that Trooper Milch is a real role, aligned with the town. and not a safe claim. Oddmerta is lock town.

Do not claim flavor or abilities further. Mafia likely has a soupkill. I am probably dead tonight because I am too trusted and I have claimed PR. They might even be able to figure out my role and soupkill me from there. However I didn't want to go out without at least confirming Odd.
this is what i figured

The funny thing is I had a genuine behavior based townread on Oddmerta before he outed his flavor, which I specifically tried to make look like I was Masons with him or had a N0 green on him to see how people would react. And then he actually gave me a green check.

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:10 pm**

Quick note on numbers:

22 players lends itself appropriately to 14:4:4 or 13:4:4:1

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:10 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:09 pm I need to finish an essay. Someone go look into all the people who tried to push Odd for being LHF.

LC did. I think TSP/ted did, can't remember which. Maybe both. Those guys are suspicious.

i pushed odd

Posted: **Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:11 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:09 pm I need to finish an essay. Someone go look into all the people who tried to push Odd for being LHF.

how was he low hanging fruit if he was guarded by the entire thread

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