The Syndicate

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:51 pm**

I’ve read some of Transcend’s posts but damm there is a lot

I don’t want to quote a ton so just going to summarise my thoughts per usual, and I still get the vibe Sean more likely than Ender.

He does a lot of subtle pushing of Ender and defence of Sean. This is all after Alison was already obviously going so it would make sense he would feel the need to defend his teammate, and obviously need to still keep Ender as a viable suspect because there were too many other town reads out there.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:52 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:07 am do u think u r at all in ur scumrange seanzie

fwiw i wouldn't know what that is

but i see it very unlikely for u to be maf here

Unlikely to be mafia. Defence, but still hesitant so if Sean flips not solid defence

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:54 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:07 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:06 am
Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:06 am i unironically would be okay lynching ender today

but i know that's not going to happen

just putting it out there
Explain how this is a good thought.
if ur mafia then we have an outed and only one left

and i think ur mafia

but 9/10 the outed dies

Puts Ender out there as candidate over outed wolf

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:55 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:53 am i think sean and syn are both town and enderwiggin is poking holes between the two i really think enderwiggin is mafia

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:58 pm**

Idk there is bound to be a lot more in the 700 something posts but it’s a bit tedious as I’m getting the same feeling from it all so far

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:09 pm**

ye I'm pretty set on Seanzie

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:10 pm**

I have to say, whoever poisoned me did great

I explicitly said I'd roll over and die once the tide turned against me

poisoning me was the absolute perfect move, totally 100% negated that

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:11 pm**

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:10 pm I have to say, whoever poisoned me did great

I explicitly said I'd roll over and die once the tide turned against me

poisoning me was the absolute perfect move, totally 100% negated that

You're welcome bby

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:13 pm**

The ender stuff could be bussing without voting cause I asked trans to vote ender and he wouldn't and voted rondo instead during the EOD mess

Kami wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:52 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:51 pm Actually idk if we have the firepower for ender
Vote him

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:13 pm**

I don't think he voted seanszie either though

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:14 pm**

it weird to call ender wolfy af and then not vote when multiple people suggest the wagon though

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:21 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:09 am [VOTE: enderwiggin] aubergine

He voted Ender during the Alison lynch though
Idk could be bussing but just seems like weird timing

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:34 pm**

Okay so I got bored of that day and went to the beginning to switch it up

Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:41 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:40 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:37 pmguys made
I agree Made deserves scrutiny, and even though I don't remember any other posts from you, I'mma guess this one comes from town.
how do u not remember any other posts from me

every post made by me has a cute lil pupper avatar

wouldn't that compel u to read the post?

This just doesn’t feel like an organic interaction to me

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:46 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:44 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:35 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:32 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:28 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:23 am Am I remembering wrong or is Epi one of those old school Syndicators who hate bussing?
There is no Syndicate preference against bussing.

I just hate it because it's bad strategy most of the time.
Sounds to me like you look great if Made flips scum then.
Haven't you also pushed Made a bit, and would look good?

Or am I misreading, it's been known to happen
Well yeah but in this case I was responding to Transcend's argument that Epi looks like a Made partner.
if u don't think that epi is a wolf do u think anyone that is or was on the wagon has any wolf equity? ik u tr me and lime but what about ender or syn?

Directing thread attention to Ender and syn.

Then just lots of mentions of Ender. I mean idk would a wolf just casually chat to their teammate this much?

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:09 pmenderwiggin

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:20 am He disappeared :o

Come on ender i don't bite

Spoiler: show
very hard

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:15 am Once upon a time there were 4 ppl, all looking at this game thread

Two of them were mysterious guests, of which their identities will never be unmasked

One of them is me who is a bored insomniac hoping something interesting happens

And the other is ender who hasn't done a damn thing

Sup ender

Here he takes a lot of issue with my Sean/Epi town read without actually giving an opinion. Is this so if Sean were to flip scum early

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:47 am
fingersplints wrote: I’m finished reading now. Still need some time to think, but immediate reactions are

I think Seanzie vs Epi is probably town vs town. Just a feeling if one of them was a wolf they would have moved on or let it go sooner or something.

In all seriousness, I really just don't like this call. I don't really recall them taking too long to move on from their little spat. I don't think this is a genuine take because it doesn't really tell me that you're sorting their alignments as much as making a call. I'd be much more willing to believe ur read has merit if u discussed how their posts were towny but saying something like "they'd just back off from each other if scum" doesn't display much genuine thought behind it imo.

fingersplints wrote: I’ve never played with Transcend before, but I think they come off all right so far.

I think I see some of what I associate with town Alison. Not enough to defend or vote to save or anything at this point, but I think she’s ok for now.
While you have a 100% conclusion, and another one that I'm pretty sure is accurate, these both feel very level 0 and tbh kinda appear as pocket attempts. Nothing u say here really goes against thread consensus and it makes me doubt that ur reads come from a genuine place.

fingersplints wrote: I’ve seen some decent points made about Made but at least one I disagree with ( the posts about him conveniently returning to the thread as if scum buddies told them to get in. That’s almost never actually the case. People just post when they want to) did I read correctly he had 6 votes at one point though? That seems a lot for this early.
This one was the very worst imo. U don't highlight any of the points u agree w on Made. To me it seems like ur sugarcoating the suspicion here, but u have no actual conviction behind it. As for the return at the convenient time, he already addressed that he was @'d by Alison so that theory has been long dismissed, and in the end u also point out that the early bw was in your words "a lot for this early". It seems like u don't think he's mafia here, but the beginning of ur post throws shade towards him.

fingersplints wrote: EnderWiggin seems very different then the last game I played with him when he was town. Just something I’m watching.

I’m trying to remember if there was anything else but my kids demanding attention
I don't rely on meta that heavily but honestly u could have pointed out why he is appearing different, instead of just saying that he appears different.

TL;DR u have a lot of shallow, unexplained takes most of which don't really defy general thread consensus and show a alarmingly high lack of thought and conviction behind them. U throw shade on certain ppl but don't back it up either.

I'm aware that u seem to have kid(s) and that ur full attention might not have been devoted to the thread at this time, but to me it came off pretty bad and imma need u to do a better job at convincing me that what u said actually had true conviction behind it cause rn it definitely doesn't.

I'm sure this isn't a birthday present u really want but that do be the way the cookie crumbles.

[VOTE: finger] aubergine

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:35 pm**

That looks obnoxious and long. Sorry. It’s why I don’t quote a ton

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:38 pm**

Kami wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:58 pm so why exactly was trans called inno child

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 2:58 am huh I kinda feel really bad now

transcend is basically IC and it's impossible to say otherwise

I don’t think Esooa ever answered why

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:42 pm**

Anyways, going to leave the rereading of transcend for now,because I feel like I’m reading it a bit biased towards Sean=wolf Ender=town and I’ll see what others think.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:45 pm**

the bias is fine

it's a surprise tool that will help us later

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:11 pm**

here comes DAT BOI

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:13 pm**

Lmao. I was starting to doubt my doggo read after Esooa commented. But never would've voted him over Seanzie today if he hadn't fucked up.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:14 pm**

Side note, I admit my doctor reaction yesterday was trying to fake a doc soft so that I would die over Esooa.

Realised that might not work after Alison flipped rc

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:15 pm**

Not voting yet to extend day. Will be reading Transcend for spew.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:18 pm**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:15 pm Not voting yet to extend day. Will be reading Transcend for spew.

the options are pretty slim unless we're reopening tinfoil on kami/finger/epi

i guess it's possible, transcend was technically deep, but it seems implausible

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:19 pm**

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:18 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:15 pm Not voting yet to extend day. Will be reading Transcend for spew.
the options are pretty slim unless we're reopening tinfoil on kami/finger/epi

i guess it's possible, transcend was technically deep, but it seems implausible

I am nothing if not a paranoid man

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:20 pm**

I honestly think it was just Seanzie like I said on D1

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:20 pm**

But I'm gonna be fucking sure before I do it

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:22 pm**

Also whoever poisoner is, they're clear.

Transcend tried to set up a push on them if they didn't claim

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:22 pm**

i humbly suggest the poisoner claim tomorrow on D4

it won't be LYLO so the wolf cannot CC without losing

if the wolf claims first, the real poisoner should immediately CC

6 v 2 now
5 v 1 me dead, transcend dead
4 v 1 nk

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:24 pm**

I agree with Syn here.

Also sorry for tunnelling you the latter half of the game kinda

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:24 pm**

wolf has to decide between NKing the strongest solver or trying to guess at the poisoner tonight

pretty good sitch for us tbh

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:24 pm**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:24 pm I agree with Syn here.

Also sorry for tunnelling you the latter half of the game kinda

it's cool

it was expected

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:29 pm**

Kami moderately likely spewed clear. Epi would've shot that idea down in wolfchat so only possible if Transcend didn't offer it in chat. Syn town and Transcend outed wolf.

I'd like to think I'm clear too.

Leaves only falcon/fingers/Seanzie. Seanzie tomorrow unless they claim poisoner.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:30 pm**

Epi and Alison were in a pretty intense back-and-forth too

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:33 pm**

Epi is apparently a good scum so I'm not clearing.

That being said the three people cleared by my association chart is Kami, Fingers, and Epi.

Fingers for weaker reasons tho.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:36 pm**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:13 pm Lmao. I was starting to doubt my doggo read after Esooa commented. But never would've voted him over Seanzie today if he hadn't fucked up.

why did you town read trans to begin with?

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:00 pm**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:29 pm Kami moderately likely spewed clear. Epi would've shot that idea down in wolfchat so only possible if Transcend didn't offer it in chat. Syn town and Transcend outed wolf.

I'd like to think I'm clear too.

Leaves only falcon/fingers/Seanzie. Seanzie tomorrow unless they claim poisoner.

Really?

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:01 pm**

Kami wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:36 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:13 pm Lmao. I was starting to doubt my doggo read after Esooa commented. But never would've voted him over Seanzie today if he hadn't fucked up.
why did you town read trans to begin with?

I liked his early content and he had several unsure moments that looked like towny paranoia.

I can elaborate more later when I'm not in bed

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:02 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:00 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:29 pm Kami moderately likely spewed clear. Epi would've shot that idea down in wolfchat so only possible if Transcend didn't offer it in chat. Syn town and Transcend outed wolf.

I'd like to think I'm clear too.

Leaves only falcon/fingers/Seanzie. Seanzie tomorrow unless they claim poisoner.
Really?

As of running off memory and bundled in blankets yes

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:10 pm**

god I hope falcon doesn't keep up with the incredulous questioning shtick tomorrow

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:12 pm**

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:10 pm god I hope falcon doesn't keep up with the incredulous questioning shtick tomorrow

Really? You sure about that?

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:30 pm**

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:47 pm**

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:30 pm>: (

That was the last time, I swear.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:58 pm**

@Seanzie hey dude, we miss you

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:06 pm**

I swear Emeril Lagasse has had a stroke. Saw him on TV today and half his face is sagging, but nothing online about it.

Anyway, time to get down to it.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:08 pm**

I'm going to ignore Syn for obvious reasons. That leaves me with six.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:27 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:41 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:40 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:37 pmguys made
I agree Made deserves scrutiny, and even though I don't remember any other posts from you, I'mma guess this one comes from town.
how do u not remember any other posts from me

every post made by me has a cute lil pupper avatar

wouldn't that compel u to read the post?

Gibberish.

Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:50 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:39 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:38 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:37 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:36 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:35 pm

Loaded question.

My vote on you stands.
I'd still like to hear your thoughts about Falcon. Unload the question however you want, you should take a stance there.
I'll take a stance on falcon when I feel like it.

I have a stance on you.
Humor me, please. Can you take a look at Falcon's ISO and give me a quick read?
I will if you will do likewise for Made.
I looked at Made. They had a few good pokes in the first few posts, but I really didn't like them trying to set themselves up as anti-teamed with Falcon. I agreed with Made that Falcon's comparison of my read on Esooa vs Made's read on me being an inaccurate comparison, but I think Made and Falcon's interactions have been awkward enough that I don't rule them out as s/s. Made made a comment about me vs Esooa that really pinged me though, and I haven't heard a response from him yet about my followup, which is troubling. They say they are mindmelding with me, but I'd like to actually see their thought patterns that are leading them to the same conclusions I am getting to, rather than them just saying "same". I have stronger scumreads, but Made is probably on the scum-side of things if I had to make a GTH list.

Now you.
sorry to interject your glorious quote pyramid but i actually think made's early posts (as well as his later posts) raised a red flag for me. i don't rlly understand why he would add to the "lolsleep" momentum and then immediately throw shade towards someone that did exactly what he did?

"Actually."

Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:16 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:14 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:07 pm TEST
For the record, if you are in the full editor, you should have a "preview" button to the left of "submit" to test to see how posts look based on the bbcode.

If you are in the forum, you can click the "preview and full editor" button (or whatever it is) at the bottom to get into the full editor where you can preview your posts to test them.
thank you SEANZIE

Mafia like to help each other out with technical shit because it looks like they aren't talking about it in their chat. Pretty basic though.

Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:53 pm
Made wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:50 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:58 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:57 pm
Made wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:01 pm I’m gonna pretend you’re town and Esooa is trying to pocket me instead of the other way around.
Thank you for claiming scum and spewing Esooa and Seanzie town.
He could've literally spewed Falcon town too with what he's going for.
Damn, y’all really think I’m so bad as to accidentally spew 4 people town right off the bat? Disrespectful
ok which one of u suckers pinged made in the maf chat

this re-entry is wolfy af lol

I'm not there yet, but I'm highlighting something relevant. Making it big, yo.

Alison has accused Made of revealing that Esooa and Seanzie are both good.

Ordinarily I might view this as some kind of long con, but it isn't- Made was dead Day 1. Therefore it's a simple means to bury a civilian Day 1 and move on, because that's how it should be done.

Still.

Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:59 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:56 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:53 pm
Made wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:50 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:58 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:57 pm
Made wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:01 pm I’m gonna pretend you’re town and Esooa is trying to pocket me instead of the other way around.
Thank you for claiming scum and spewing Esooa and Seanzie town.
He could've literally spewed Falcon town too with what he's going for.
Damn, y’all really think I’m so bad as to accidentally spew 4 people town right off the bat? Disrespectful
ok which one of u suckers pinged made in the maf chat

this re-entry is wolfy af lol
Agree with this, it feels like the wolf team panicked over Made suddenly getting run up and acted to dissipate pressure + pinged him to come defend himself ASAP.

His re-entry post is literally a variant of "I'm TWTBW" which is a garbage defense as well.
it also seems like he re-entered the thread being aware of being wagoned and chose to respond to ur accusation against him instead of catching up on what he missed while he was gone.

Hindsight 20/20. I should have caught this one.

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:34 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:32 am
Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:23 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:21 am
Made wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:13 am
Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:12 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:38 pm

Made is my second suspect.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:50 pm

And not in music.

I'm convinced Made is mafia.

the first quote is when only i was voting him and his wagon comp wasn't so large

the second quote is when he was getting bwed

ur vote on him only came once he was getting bwed

which screams to me "welp my partners getting fucked, time to bus for some sweet towncred woop woop"

the transition from him being possibly scum, to suddenly very scum (while he didn't make any additional posts between those two quotes) looks kinda uncanny
This doesn't make sense unless you assume that hammer was immanent.

Was a hammer imminent?
Considering that there are 4 scum, E-2 is very realistically immanent if two scum are willing to do something bold. I personally stuck my neck out to slow down your yeet because of how immanent E-2 in this setup is. So yes, a hammer was immanent.
a hammer was not imminent but his vote was still pretty crappy

there's no way scum was gonna lolhammer and lose one of their eggs when they already have a pretty big advantage
I don't know where you originally hail from, but hammer etiquette is a bit looser here than at many sites. Idk what you mean by eggs, but scum very well could decide to pile onto one person, and I've seen wolves hammer in such situations.
i've seen lolhammers but i don't think i've seen one this early into the first day, but i'll take u at ur word in terms of this site.

Talk about mechanics. Not talk about each other. Moving on.

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:18 am Hi Kirsten (sp?) hope you're doing well. Ur catch up was pretty good and I have no major problems with it. Just curious about something.

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:51 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:28 pm Seanzie isn't this dense. I've read that over and over, and there's a measure of avoidance there. [VOTE: Sneazie] aubergine
I don't really know about how Seanzie normally is, tbh, but I think this is a pretty valid conclusion. I think this is a towny post though

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 5:07 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:44 pm I'd like people to talk about Seanzie's treatment of me regardless of my alignment.
I don't understand this at all
U voted for epi but in ur catch up, these are the two posts u mentioned from him. One of which you labeled as towny and the other as confusing. Is there any reason that U voted him above finger (who i'm about to dive into their pretty bad recent post) who u said was wolfy?

"Let me sell you on fingersplints while I get your attention away from Seanzie."

Pausing here. Piss break and big quote incoming.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:57 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:47 am
fingersplints wrote: I’m finished reading now. Still need some time to think, but immediate reactions are

I think Seanzie vs Epi is probably town vs town. Just a feeling if one of them was a wolf they would have moved on or let it go sooner or something.

In all seriousness, I really just don't like this call. I don't really recall them taking too long to move on from their little spat. I don't think this is a genuine take because it doesn't really tell me that you're sorting their alignments as much as making a call. I'd be much more willing to believe ur read has merit if u discussed how their posts were towny but saying something like "they'd just back off from each other if scum" doesn't display much genuine thought behind it imo.

I want to point out that five words of the first two sentences are fucking ADVERBS.

People laugh at me. I am a man who dresses as a bat and rids the city of crime.

This post is going to get its own post. So let's go.

My impression here is that Transcend has judged fingersplits of being guilty on the basis of what SHE hasn't done instead of Transcend getting her to clarify. Instead, Transcend spoonfed her the answer he was "looking for." Another red flag I missed. Damn.

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:47 am
fingersplints wrote: I’ve never played with Transcend before, but I think they come off all right so far.

I think I see some of what I associate with town Alison. Not enough to defend or vote to save or anything at this point, but I think she’s ok for now.
While you have a 100% conclusion, and another one that I'm pretty sure is accurate, these both feel very level 0 and tbh kinda appear as pocket attempts. Nothing u say here really goes against thread consensus and it makes me doubt that ur reads come from a genuine place.

"These both feel very level 0 and tbh kinda appear as pocket attempts."

I don't want to make this about fingersplints.

I want to make this about Seanzie.

Transcend had a chance to talk to fingersplints about Seanzie and me, but shit on that. Then fingersplints talked about Transcend and Alison, giving a positive opinion, and Transcend shit on that too.

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:47 am
fingersplints wrote: I’ve seen some decent points made about Made but at least one I disagree with ( the posts about him conveniently returning to the thread as if scum buddies told them to get in. That’s almost never actually the case. People just post when they want to) did I read correctly he had 6 votes at one point though? That seems a lot for this early.
This one was the very worst imo. U don't highlight any of the points u agree w on Made. To me it seems like ur sugarcoating the suspicion here, but u have no actual conviction behind it. As for the return at the convenient time, he already addressed that he was @'d by Alison so that theory has been long dismissed, and in the end u also point out that the early bw was in your words "a lot for this early". It seems like u don't think he's mafia here, but the beginning of ur post throws shade towards him.

That last sentence is the go-ahead against fingersplints once Made is shown to be good.

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:47 am
fingersplints wrote: EnderWiggin seems very different then the last game I played with him when he was town. Just something I’m watching.

I’m trying to remember if there was anything else but my kids demanding attention
I don't rely on meta that heavily but honestly u could have pointed out why he is appearing different, instead of just saying that he appears different.

TL;DR u have a lot of shallow, unexplained takes most of which don't really defy general thread consensus and show a alarmingly high lack of thought and conviction behind them. U throw shade on certain ppl but don't back it up either.

I'm aware that u seem to have kid(s) and that ur full attention might not have been devoted to the thread at this time, but to me it came off pretty bad and imma need u to do a better job at convincing me that what u said actually had true conviction behind it cause rn it definitely doesn't.

I'm sure this isn't a birthday present u really want but that do be the way the cookie crumbles.

[VOTE: finger] aubergine

That was an annoying post to get through. Thank you for that.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:59 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:47 pm yea and that's why i feel the vote is calculated cause u don't seem to have ur own conviction for it and when explained to ask u literally give a reason that points to her being town but still follow thru with it

[VOTE: hollow] aubergine

imma probs yeet myself out of this thread for a bit but imo a good towncore is something like {me, ali, brad, esooa, falcon}

seanzie as probs town

syn as probs town

kami as probs town but feel free to yeet if she doesn't want to cooperate

made as possibly town but don't want to give too much of a pass

finger, hollow, epi all scummy

ender idk

rondo lol

Seanzie is probably good and Ender is an "I don't know."

Transcend wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:47 pm and i guess nothing rly needs to be done w/ the notanaxe slot cause it's prob gonna get replaced atp

Posts that didn't age well for $400, LeVar.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:26 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:26 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:22 pm I skimmed it. I think your point about her read of you and Seanzie being TvT (and dare I say, TMI) is fine. I said as much when she first made that read. I agree with your suspicions, and I have Kami and splints as top suspects. I think I suspect Kami slightly more still, but I would love if the two of them were competing wagons.
assuming a world where sean/epi are both town

which is worse, tmi on one dude or tmi on two dudes

The context of Alison's post is here if you wish to read it.

I think this was when I was accusing fingersplints and grilling Alison at the same time. Don't care. The point is from both of these perspectives, Seanzie is fine.

Transcend wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:22 am Where is Seanzie

I miss Seanzie

Transcend wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:18 pm SURVEY SAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:52 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:42 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:41 pm
When you were gimmick yes. You've asked some good sharp questions since then.
fair

Before you sleep who are your top 5?
After I slept:
Probably Seanzie scum.
Esooa Town
Transcend town
Epi scum
Falcon town
you're a liar.

Well that's nice and all, but...what's this?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:26 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:23 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:21 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:16 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:15 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:12 pm boring

finger had a towny post

sean had an even townier post that i agree with

[VOTE: enderwiggin] aubergine
That I can "Hide behind my chart"?

You realise that I'm publicly making known the information on that chart and why I assign people as w/w.

I've commented in thread as I made changes, Esooa interacted with me on multiple of them.

How is that hiding my thought process?
no offense but i didn't really vibe w/ most the findings you liked

it felt like u found random interactions and just said "hmm probs not w/w"

in the end it feels like busywork
I'm not going to lie and say I don't do it as scum, because I can.

I'm not going to tell you I'm obvious town because you've never played with me before.

But is this seriously the strongest case you have?
no it's not the crux of my case

i also literally just caught u in a contradiction that u're refusing to acknowledge

ur reads are sloppy and i think u have a dirty agenda i.e. targeting what u think u can lynch aka a lhf as opposed to really giving thought about who u should lynch
My reads are sloppy? Yes. I'm aware.

Dirty Agenda? Nah townreads are more important than pushing lhf because you can even push out a strong poster if you get townreads well enough.

Not really giving a thought about who I should lynch?

Unless you're suggesting I'm literally partners with Fingers AND Rondo why am I not just pushing one of those for easy money? Why am I townreading one and waffling on the other? No one would blink if I placed a vote earlier on Finger or a vote now on Rondo?

Lengthy spat with Ender here.

Oh, oh:

Transcend wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:28 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:29 pm Before I catch up, is anyone here down for some epi pressure

If so, that's where I'd like to go.

If not, then I'll consolidate
why did u not entertain this post

u clearly have epi as a scumread

if u can't answer this adequately i'm confbiasing you guys as a pair for eternity

Fun shit.

And then:

Transcend wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:35 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:34 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:32 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:52 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:42 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:41 pm
When you were gimmick yes. You've asked some good sharp questions since then.
fair

Before you sleep who are your top 5?
After I slept:
Probably Seanzie scum.
Esooa Town
Transcend town
Epi scum
Falcon town
so ur telling me that someone that's "probably scum" as opposed to just "scum" is ur favored target

even if so, why not say "hey trans, that's a decent idea, i could potentially be down with it if we can get some more traction headed that way" or something along those lines
The Probably at the start was an adverb to continue the meme of pinging people for me using adverbs.

It's also a lead into the list.

The list is in order of my conviction.
idk if i believe that but ok

regardless of ur order of conviction, if someone in the thread advocates going for someone in your sus pile, why not at least acknowledge it?

"Vote Epi instead of Seanzie."

Transcend wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:11 am seanzie

i think he's town but incredibly low-wim compared to his start of d1

i said the same about made and that kinda backfired

The context here is "I think we should look into Seanzie's posts in light of the NaA modkill."

Transcend wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:17 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 4:16 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:12 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:08 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:05 pm Yup, wolves are piling on an easy ML.
Okay.

Top five reads outside me, go
Don't know what to tell you other than that I've been finding it really hard to find the motivation to do anything lately.
Seanzie seemed to have a lot of motivation when the game started. Like a lot. I don't know where that went. Seems weird it's gone so suddenly tbh
i felt the same way

idk why scum!him would freeze when he wasn't catching much heat at all?

Transcend wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:37 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:35 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:30 pm I think it was just 3 ppl (me, finger, rondo) voted within seconds of each other. Idt there was coordination but i still think ur towny for thinking that.
I'm looking back now. Syn voted, then you announced you intended to vote (but didn't vote yet, I remember I cast my vote before yours was in the poll), then I voted, then you, finger, Rondo and Kami all ended up on Rondo, then Alison jumped in a few seconds later. Kami/Finger/Alison all jumped to Rondo after it was announced in thread that syn, me and you would be there.

It was clearly coordinated. We just need to figure out whom by.

Alison was a potential wagon, and I was stirring the thread towards a CFD to make scum react, so it makes sense that scum would do something like this to avoid a CFD onto Alison. Kami and Ender were also possible CFD options, so I wonder if there weren't multiple wolves at risk, pushing them to do such a bold thing. Since Ender wasn't around, IMO, it points strongly to Kami!wolf.
With how chaotic that eod was, I think any hammer was just a coincidence bby

There were like 4 ppl at risk of being eliminated

This is where Seanzie's claim was one of "I'm doing things to make the bad guys react."

My problem with this is if you're going to fuck around at the end of day, fine- but you better be prepared to have some data or conclusions to share with the class.

I want everyone to note the difference between Transcend's treatment of fingersplints just for speculating about Seanzie and me (see above) and the tone Transcend takes here with Seanzie.

I'm leaving some out because I have to piss again.

Transcend wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:01 pm I just don't want seanzie tunneled on bad logic cause i think he's town

Again, refer to the post against fingersplints. Transcend accused fingersplints of being mafia because she didn't quote posts, didn't name reasons, etc. etc.

Transcend's last remaining teammate is in the balance, and all he has left is his own credibility.

Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:25 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:24 am
Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:18 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:17 am
Transcend wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:14 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:13 am So I just had a string of epiphanies. The first two won't shock any of you.

I just realized that Esooa claimed to roleblock Alison.

I just realized that Alison outed because the shot was blocked. This is nice because even though I read the posts that should have indicated this to me, I didn't process this until now, and was kind of wondering why Alison had decided to lolcat, since yesterday was only a little damning for her.

This one might be important. I just realized that I have no idea why Alison decided to lolcat rather than hoping for/fishing for a doctor claim.
she outed yd eod
Uh.... where?
by attempting to quickhammer the day (despite it already being quickhammered)
Eh, this very strongly disregards the myriad of ways in which, especially in a medium like a forum, we are out of sync with each other. Slow connections, human error, and site lag can all easily explain odd timing type things. While her vote yesterday was very suspicious, I don't think it was lock!outing. It was "she was in for a strong fight to not get killed" but not "I'd bet $1000 this person is scum". That being said, it could easily be explained simply by motivation, but it does seem like a sub-par move, which Alison is pretty strongly against.
there's also the fact that she 0 posted that eod when she caught some heat, then suddenly changed her vote

this is what we call antispew, and also outing, sean.

Yawn. You two can stop now.

So can I.

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:28 pm**

Epi why are you peeing so much

Posted: **Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:32 pm**

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:28 pm Epi why are you peeing so much

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