Team Fortress Mafia [END]

#3951

It'll be 7v1 after N6 if the kill isn't blocked so I believe we're good.

As a bonus a lot of people are looking pretty likely to be Town.
Marmot, Falcon, and LC are all extremely strong roles that the Mafia cannot afford to leave alive as they only have 1 RB immunity, 1 watcher immunity, and 1-2 heal immunity.

I have an idea that might be able to work at making Mafia's life a little bit harder tonight.

#3952

Theoertically we can do something like this.

Our strongest roles are LC, Falcon, and Marmot.
I don't think Mafia can afford to kill anyone outside of those 3 players otherwise they just lose to mechanics.

Even if we take into account the possibility that one of those 3 players is Mafia I think this plan would be solid:

Wiggly chooses to either do nothing tonight OR airblast protect Marmot.
Falcon chooses to either heal Marmot OR heal LC.
I choose to either airblast LC OR airblast Falcon.
Marmot chooses to either watch LC OR watch Falcon.

If Mafia tries to kill Marmot they have to guess if he is being healed or if he is being airblasted. If Mafia guesses wrong, they waste one of their crits and lose a night.
If Mafia tries to kill LC they have to guess if he is being airblasted, watched, or healed. If Mafia guesses wrong, the same as Marmot.
If Mafia tries to kill Falcon they have to guess if he is being watched or airblasted. If Mafia guesses wrong they might lose the game outright.
If Mafia tries to kill any other player then LC confirms a player as Town and we get a confirmed townie.

The plan can possibly be undercut by one of the 4 protective roles being Mafia, but that just eliminates the Mafia risking a night action.
Even if they can successfully get a clean kill off Town is still in a good position. Best case scenario Mafia kills someone who isn't in those 3.
LC always confirms a townie even if LC is Mafia. TSP might even be able to snipe the last Mafia or worst case scenario eliminate a suspect.

#3953

The plan basically makes it hard for Mafia to reliably kill one of our 3 strongest roles.
Mafia is pretty screwed if they don't kill off those players.
if one is Mafia (probably LC) then it doesn't matter as eventually LC's role will back him into a corner where he has to be blatant with his anti-town roleblocks or just confirmed everyone else.

#3954

I think the only real way the plan can reliably be undercut is if LC is Mafia.
We can possibly put both pyros on basically randomizing between Falcon, Marmot, and LC.
I mostly separated me and Wiggly out to keep things simple and not risk pyro airblasting a pyro to someone else and really fucking things up.

#3955

Who exactly do I RB?

#3956

Ideas on who I should RB? I'm open to suggestions

#3957

I honestly think LC picks their best judgement of the players who aren't protecting tonight.
Basically Gullio, Marmot, TSP, and Martin.
Really all of them are good options.

#3958

Actualyl are either of you (LC or Falcon) red team?

#3959

If so you can submit to enter RED Engie base.
That provides a heal and RB clear.

#3960

You still have half an hour to submit going into the RED base.
It wouldn't be a bad idea for anyone wanting to be RB cleared to submit a request to enter the base.
Just keep in mind BLUE players don't get the healing or extra vote from the base just the roleblock.

#3961

It's probably also a good idea for Martin to not say who he's protecting tonight because then Mafia can play around not having to worry about Falcon or LC.

#3962

Since Mafia has to chose which 1 thing they are immune to tonight I think the less concrete plan we have the better.
Forces Mafia to actually have to worry about if their kill will be stopped or if they get caught by Marmot.

#3963

Or, I just went back and reread they can drink multiple in one night, but if they do that that's way better for Town since they just burn a lot of their killing power for one guaranteed kill.

#3964

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:30 pm Actualyl are either of you (LC or Falcon) red team?

I am

#3965

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:31 pm If so you can submit to enter RED Engie base.
That provides a heal and RB clear.

Done

#3966

And I guess then if LC also sent a request whichever doesn't make it in can fish for an RB (or heal Marmot if Falcon was left out)

#3967

I think regardless of who martin chooses we are good for tonight though.
A lot of things can stop Mafia kill, so if they don't use at least two crits tonight they probably wont get a kill in.

#3968

I got an undisclosed amount of requests into my base, for once lol

#3969

Honestly I'm imagining the host is just sitting there sad that literally no one has submitted to go to a base for 4 nights.

#3970

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:04 pm *pulls off mask*

We could just not yeet Sig to attempt a mech clear before buffs...

*Puts mask back on*

Mph man mnfph mh mnfr mphin mph mhmm...

That's... so crazy it makes sense.

#3971

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:45 pm Since Mafia has to chose which 1 thing they are immune to tonight I think the less concrete plan we have the better.
Forces Mafia to actually have to worry about if their kill will be stopped or if they get caught by Marmot.

i was thinking like saves and watches on a random pool of three or something to control the kill, probably LC/marmot/me/falcon(?)

#3972

i'm pretty sure I'm not supposed to even aim the sniper rifle

#3973

Fyi I'm red team as well @LinearPoint @TonyStarkPrime

#3974

you can't go in the thingy though i think it might mess htings up

#3975

Meh, if Falcon was the only one to submit a request it's not the end of the world. Marmot can still potentially watch Falcon so Mafia still can't even safely anti-heal kill Falcon.
The only thing it means is Mafia doesn't have to use their anti-heal crit to kill anyone else.

#3976

And technically LC could have submit a request and just said he didn't so Mafia thinks Falcon is being roleblocked by Martin.

#3977

I still think there is a healthy amount of WIFOM which is what we need. Mafia needs to be paranoid and possibly use more crits than they need to or even mispredict something and not use a certain crit when they actually needed to.

#3978

Wilgy is probably town for voting me tbh

#3979

Mh mhm mph mhed.

Mhooo!!

#3980

#3981

how much effort do you think Wilgy is putting into these?

#3982

#3983

NOW we are finally out of videos.

And the game still doesn't have a plot.

So let's just get down to business.

Sig was killed.

Spoiler: show

Night 5 Begins!

#3984

Night 5 Post

(In which DDL decides to finally write some kind of plot)

The man is standing on top of a building, waiting for his target to come out. The Sniper Rifle is on his hand. He has a lot of patience, but it also ready to make a head shot in the same second as the target shows any kind of vulnerability.

And after what feels like days, but are just a few hours, the target appears. A Soldier, doing the night patrol. Well, coming from the Soldier, it's more likely he is just having some delusion of patrolling the land to watch out for a communist attack, but it's the thought that counts.

The Soldier shoots his rocket launcher at his own foot, launching himself meters into the air. His goal is to watch a bad deed about to happen. Little does he know the bad deed is coming for him.

And as the Soldier falls, the Sniper quickly moves the crosshairs of his weapon to the place where his target will land. For a master of aiming like him, hitting a Soldier in the middle of a rocket jump is child's play. His finger pulls the trigger and the bullet goes off.

But the Sniper, distracted by the movement of the Soldier, fails to see something. A man moving between the two of them. A doctor. Not a doctor as in the Team Fortress class, no. It's an actual doctor.

Spoiler: show

#3985

List of Actions:

Spoiler: show

#3986

#3987

what, and i cannot stress this enough, the fuck

#3988

Huh, so Airblast can redirect to self target unlike the other two.
I thought it couldn't.

#3989

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:54 pm what, and i cannot stress this enough, the fuck

LOL

#3990

GG all and thanks for the game DDL.

We had very bad luck and I'll forever advocate killing @Marmot d1 from here on out

And not to start a fight, buuuuuut Gullio whole caught me on the second post thing was and will always be nonsense that was standard Sig messing around posting and if I wasn't mafia would be a standard mischop reasoning.

#3991

That was surprisingly anticlimatic. 3 out of 4 Mafia died to night kill choices.
Only Nanook was actually scum read and caught.

#3992

#3993

Guillo played really well this game, possibly the best town performance IMO.

Marmot best PR.

#3994

Also there was a 1/8 chance TSP dies that night.

#3995

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:00 pm That was surprisingly anticlimatic. 3 out of 4 Mafia died to night kill choices.
Only Nanook was actually scum read and caught.

In fairness, it was also because they were heavily scum-read in a role madness game, no bueno.

#3996

We could have saved Sig, I got a little greedy and just did calculations poorly

#3997

the other two I'm not claiming responsibility for

#3998

actually I will, we messed up using the crit on day 1 because I misread what the crit did and we had sabie carrying the kill and I was scared that sabie would be blocked, turns out crit doesn't even stop that whoops

#3999

Wasn't it you NAA who said Mafia should just stick together and vote with their numbers?
And 3 mafia did that day 1 and 2 got scum read hard for it.

#4000

literally nothing you can do about a nontargeted random misdirect

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