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Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:23 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:22 pm Pao, Ender

1 or both is Maf

ender is dead town

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:23 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:19 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:13 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:10 pm 112
Creature
DrWilgy
hollowkatt
LinearPoint
sabie12
sig
TonyStarkPrime

Boom. If there's not wolf in here I quit mafia forever. Probably.
Creature and hk being in this list feels silly. I'm also increasingly thinking TSP's town.
yeah i guess i'm ok on tsp too

but why hk

i feel like hk has floated around doing nothing, what has he done thats AI at all? i feel like he'd get heated about *something* as town. i have no qualms with flipping him

This is a terrible way to read hk and something he's been actively mitigating.

hk has a consistent depth of thought that he isn't flaunting.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:23 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:22 pm Pao, Ender

1 or both is Maf

Bruh

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:23 pm**

i....kinda dont get why people scumread linearpoint

they seem pretty villagery to me, pretty free flowing thoughts etc

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:23 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:22 pm Pao, Ender

1 or both is Maf

Ender has flipped town but I'm back to thinking Paopan is mafia, yes

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:23 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:22 pm Pao, Ender

1 or both is Maf

Ender just flipped town

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:24 pm**

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:23 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:22 pm Pao, Ender

1 or both is Maf
ender is dead town

Sweet, Pao lock Maf then

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:24 pm**

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:23 pm 3 is actually probably a bit too high for scum pushing Sean with only 5 people on it.
But that is not a wagon that is formed solely of town ever.

2. Just 2.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:24 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:22 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:18 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:15 pm If you guys want to articulate concerns about me into something I can respond to, by all means go for it.

Otherwise shush.
If you are town, I don't recall you ever put so much work in overnight, as I think this comes from your scum game more often than not. Maybe that's an inaccurate view though from me?
Explained in passing already: I am consciously putting in more effort since it is GoC and it was a big game with cool people and all that. Also because I knew it'd be a mad posting game and I'd fall way behind if I didn't force myself to keep up somewhat.

I didn't actually do much 'work' anyway - just read the NAA thing and pre-typed a single post.

Yeah, just seemed like you had a lot pre-typed posts ready. guess it was just that one and I'm being silly

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:24 pm**

[VOTE: Pao] aubergine

Can't tell if Falcon diff check or memes.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:24 pm**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:22 pmIn his scum game, I seem to recall him pushing a much harder agenda and was a lot stiffer in how he interacted. In the town game I have seen, he just seems detached from everything and that reminds me a little bit of that. It's mainly meta which isn't strong.

Only scummy thing I remember was the marmot interaction I had with him

Alright. I don't really have a strong feeling either way. I actually think I liked part of his iso, or rather, I liked some posts particularly that seemed like town and not mafia would say, which should way heavier, so you might be right. I don't like him repeating a scum read on me when I'm pretty sure he doesn't know my play very well, as I don't know his. That seems "agenda-y", though I kind of hate that word.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:24 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:23 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:22 pm Pao, Ender

1 or both is Maf
Bruh

Yo

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:24 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:23 pm i....kinda dont get why people scumread linearpoint

they seem pretty villagery to me, pretty free flowing thoughts etc

My main concern is that I feel like their wagon was better founded than most half-assed wagons we had yesterday

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:25 pm**

I don't think it's possible that the entire seanzie wagon was town so there must be at least some mafia there. There are 3 people who didn't vote or voted a dead player sig creature and porsha. I recognize people think my vote is scummy but I scum read wilgy and I wasn't able to be here til right before EOD for irl reasons. I came back to pure chaos and a seanzie wagon that didn't feel good at all.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:25 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:24 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:23 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:22 pm Pao, Ender

1 or both is Maf
ender is dead town
Sweet, Pao lock Maf then

Why Pao lock mafia?
Pao didn't seem that bad yesterday aside from the Sean wagon.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:25 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:21 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:18 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:15 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:13 pmCreature and hk being in this list feels silly. I'm also increasingly thinking TSP's town.
Why is that silly? I should look into HK though. My list is instinct, and it probably works way better than overthinking.
I just think they're both obvious town
But why do you think that? Can it be expressed?

Creature might be hard to express, easiest way is "free flowing" but that might not be convincing.
See my post to nut just now for hk.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:25 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:24 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:23 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:22 pm Pao, Ender

1 or both is Maf
ender is dead town
Sweet, Pao lock Maf then

Is it mech?

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:25 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:21 pm I don't get the Belzy townreads

i think she had really towny posts in general, also alison said she has a good wolf game and then said she's obvious town here so thats something ig

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:26 pm**

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:25 pm I don't think it's possible that the entire seanzie wagon was town so there must be at least some mafia there. There are 3 people who didn't vote or voted a dead player sig creature and porsha. I recognize people think my vote is scummy but I scum read wilgy and I wasn't able to be here til right before EOD for irl reasons. I came back to pure chaos and a seanzie wagon that didn't feel good at all.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:26 pm**

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:25 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:24 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:23 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:22 pm Pao, Ender

1 or both is Maf
ender is dead town
Sweet, Pao lock Maf then
Why Pao lock mafia?
Pao didn't seem that bad yesterday aside from the Sean wagon.

It's tongue in cheek

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:26 pm**

BTW I have mechanical information that implies we should *not* be killing Guillo today (it is not a green check).

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:26 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:26 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:25 pm I don't think it's possible that the entire seanzie wagon was town so there must be at least some mafia there. There are 3 people who didn't vote or voted a dead player sig creature and porsha. I recognize people think my vote is scummy but I scum read wilgy and I wasn't able to be here til right before EOD for irl reasons. I came back to pure chaos and a seanzie wagon that didn't feel good at all.

yep

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:26 pm**

Okay maybe we have a guilty on Paopan

[VOTE: Paopan] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:27 pm**

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:25 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:24 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:23 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:22 pm Pao, Ender

1 or both is Maf
ender is dead town
Sweet, Pao lock Maf then
Why Pao lock mafia?
Pao didn't seem that bad yesterday aside from the Sean wagon.

I think out of everyone who took my lhf, Pao and Sabie we're the scummiest.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:27 pm**

Every time Sabie posts I'm like 'this is probably scum' but I never want to push there because I don't think that cracks the game open anyway.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:27 pm**

also the game just ended where guillo fooled TF out of me as a wolf, and when i realized he was a wolf there, that was part of what spurred my push because I realized almost anything is in his wolf range.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:27 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:22 pm Yesterday's EOD wagons were NAA, Ender, Wilgy and Seanzie

It's very possible they were all town

Actually yeah I feel like the naa wagon being a thing might actually be a point in favor of wilgy town bc if wilgy was a hit it might not have been so close with seanzie

but meh, i think we need to flip him

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:27 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:24 pm [VOTE: Pao] aubergine

Can't tell if Falcon diff check or memes.

It's obviously not a difference check

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:28 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:27 pm also the game just ended where guillo fooled TF out of me as a wolf, and when i realized he was a wolf there, that was part of what spurred my push because I realized almost anything is in his wolf range.

I believe in you.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:28 pm**

Creature has mostly stood to the side shaking their head at us and commenting on how bad things are going.

In a vacuum that's scummy, but it seems lots of people have meta and I do not.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:28 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:27 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:22 pm Yesterday's EOD wagons were NAA, Ender, Wilgy and Seanzie

It's very possible they were all town
Actually yeah I feel like the naa wagon being a thing might actually be a point in favor of wilgy town bc if wilgy was a hit it might not have been so close with seanzie

but meh, i think we need to flip him

Let me help you tie that knot

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:28 pm**

Wilgy is going to towntell today if he's a villager and I'm going to change my mind

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:29 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:28 pm Creature has mostly stood to the side shaking their head at us and commenting on how bad things are going.

In a vacuum that's scummy, but it seems lots of people have meta and I do not.

I'm not going to pretend how to read creature

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:29 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:27 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:22 pm Yesterday's EOD wagons were NAA, Ender, Wilgy and Seanzie

It's very possible they were all town
Actually yeah I feel like the naa wagon being a thing might actually be a point in favor of wilgy town bc if wilgy was a hit it might not have been so close with seanzie

but meh, i think we need to flip him

We should aim for wolves. We're really behind now at like 8 town and 1 wolf dead.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:29 pm**

OK, we still have 36 hours, we don't need to rush the 8 votes immediately.
But we should probably go back to the EoD and look it over again. Probably get a good mix of people whose votes were looking oppertunistic EoD and some other generally scummy people.
Also any rechecks should come out (but with 2 cops dying last night that may not be a thing)

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:29 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:28 pm Creature has mostly stood to the side shaking their head at us and commenting on how bad things are going.

In a vacuum that's scummy, but it seems lots of people have meta and I do not.

welcome to playing with creature

he loves to catastrophize

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:29 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:28 pm Wilgy is going to towntell today if he's a villager and I'm going to change my mind

At least you believe in me.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:29 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:21 pm I don't get the Belzy townreads

Belzy seemed palpably frustrated that I wasn’t actively solving the game yesterday.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:30 pm**

vote: paopan

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:30 pm**

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:23 pmThis is a terrible way to read hk and something he's been actively mitigating.

hk has a consistent depth of thought that he isn't flaunting.

You know, actually yes. HK might be more involved as scum. He hasn't really stood out to me in any way and I don't remember a lot of what he has done, no shade. But that might not be a bad thing in itself for HK. I know this is not what you said, but it's what I'm saying

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:30 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:28 pm Creature has mostly stood to the side shaking their head at us and commenting on how bad things are going.

In a vacuum that's scummy, but it seems lots of people have meta and I do not.

I've been one of the players throwing reads the most

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:30 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:13 pm If someone asks me one more time 'are you actually a wolf/wolfing' I'm gonna do something drastic like eat a whole sandwich.

Eating an entire sandwich isn’t that hard.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:31 pm**

I'm kinda paranoid over nutella too

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:31 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:30 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:28 pm Creature has mostly stood to the side shaking their head at us and commenting on how bad things are going.

In a vacuum that's scummy, but it seems lots of people have meta and I do not.
I've been one of the players throwing reads the most

Yeah but you're throwing them out into the air where no one is. You're not, like...impacting anything, at least from what I'm reading.

I find this scummy but people like Dya saying 'that's just Creature' makes me sigh and look elsewhere.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:31 pm**

linearpoint is admittedly improving a bit this SOD.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:31 pm**

I don't know if I can bear to go back and read EoD, but probably still will at some point

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:31 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:31 pm I'm kinda paranoid over nutella too

Nah

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:32 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:28 pm Creature has mostly stood to the side shaking their head at us and commenting on how bad things are going.

In a vacuum that's scummy, but it seems lots of people have meta and I do not.

I concur, Creature def making me sus right meow

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:32 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:30 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:23 pmThis is a terrible way to read hk and something he's been actively mitigating.

hk has a consistent depth of thought that he isn't flaunting.
You know, actually yes. HK might be more involved as scum. He hasn't really stood out to me in any way and I don't remember a lot of what he has done, no shade. But that might not be a bad thing in itself for HK. I know this is not what you said, but it's what I'm saying

this actually isn't true from what i've seen, he was much more muted/less involved as scum

but i thought his day 1 was pretty villagery for him

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:32 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:30 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:28 pm Creature has mostly stood to the side shaking their head at us and commenting on how bad things are going.

In a vacuum that's scummy, but it seems lots of people have meta and I do not.
I've been one of the players throwing reads the most

That's exactly what a wolf would say to justify their towniness

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