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Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:19 am
by TonyStarkPrime
voting urist

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:21 am
by TonyStarkPrime
wilgy almost certainly is more likely mafia than anyone in the game rn

except maybe sig but I can't really wrap my ahead around that one

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:22 am
by TonyStarkPrime
given the number of poisons I would unironically like to assert that it is almost guaranteed that I have been poisoned by the mafia (as well as, plausibly, the town) and I am therefore clear

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:26 am
by LinearPoint
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:22 am given the number of poisons I would unironically like to assert that it is almost guaranteed that I have been poisoned by the mafia (as well as, plausibly, the town) and I am therefore clear
I'd frankly assume Mafia is 4 Level 1 Warriors and tonight they will get 5 kills.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:27 am
by LinearPoint
That would be the safer place to bet on.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:27 am
by Dolby
LP claiming HK no N1 visits as mafia is somewhat couragous but I'm not a fan of the sig track (like, it should be assumed that he'd be shot before D4) and I still think that LP is a hit

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:27 am
by LinearPoint
PLus you were a few seconds from being lynched. Mafia killing you is a stupid ass move they would never do.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:27 am
by Jackofhearts2005
In theory, we should heal everybody we can because wolves are almost certain to heal themselves so it's like

Tony town -> we should heal

Tony wolf -> Tony being healed anyway so it doesn't matter if we heal or not

There's not a logical line for not healing Tony (or almost any player that gets poisoned) unless you both think he's a wolf and don't think that there's a L1 pally in 4 wolves.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:29 am
by Dolby
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:06 am sorta think wolves likely missed some poisons
I don't think that you were poisoned by wolves

unless like 2+ roleblocks landed

even then I doubt it though

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:30 am
by Dolby
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:15 am and i know that feels like a w/w from tsp but I don't care
you two aren't w/w

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:32 am
by Jackofhearts2005
I don't think Tony was poisoned by wolves, either. I'm just saying, even my townread aside, it's bad strategy to actually let poison kill anybody as long as there are 4 wolves itg.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:32 am
by LinearPoint
Frankly TSP might not be a bad lynch just to prevent him from being healed.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:33 am
by Dolby
[VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:35 am
by Jackofhearts2005
LinearPoint wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:32 am Frankly TSP might not be a bad lynch just to prevent him from being healed.
My brain is breaking

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:36 am
by Dolby
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:35 am
LinearPoint wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:32 am Frankly TSP might not be a bad lynch just to prevent him from being healed.
My brain is breaking
it actually isn't that bad a thought from a TSP!w perspective

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:36 am
by LinearPoint
Dolby wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:33 am [VOTE: LinearPoint] aubergine
Thanks for confirming my suspicion you're Mafia with him.
Still rpetty sure Syn is too.
Not sure between Petit, Sig, and NAA.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:37 am
by LinearPoint
Honestly Jack's idea that Mafia poisoned their own member so they wont be lynched and be healed actually isn't a horrible idea in theory.
I still think it was a Town posion though and TSP is always flippng Mafia.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:37 am
by Dolby
LP do you still believe that I recanted a sus on TSP and that me voting you and Dunya was "uncharacteristic" of my D2 activity

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:39 am
by TonyStarkPrime
LinearPoint wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:26 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:22 am given the number of poisons I would unironically like to assert that it is almost guaranteed that I have been poisoned by the mafia (as well as, plausibly, the town) and I am therefore clear
I'd frankly assume Mafia is 4 Level 1 Warriors and tonight they will get 5 kills.
oh this is also possible

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:40 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:35 am
LinearPoint wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:32 am Frankly TSP might not be a bad lynch just to prevent him from being healed.
My brain is breaking
Specifically about the strategy of if a generic player is both the player who the town wants to yeet and is also poisoned.

And if a wolf would heal a townie in that position.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:41 am
by TonyStarkPrime
anyways if LP is correct we have to kill a wolf today and so I would therefore recommend not chopping me

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:42 am
by LinearPoint
Dolby wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:37 am LP do you still believe that I recanted a sus on TSP and that me voting you and Dunya was "uncharacteristic" of my D2 activity
I literally have not played with you to my knowledge.
So I have no idea what your "town meta" is.

Second I won't just believe you that pushing Duyna and TSP is a thing only Town you would do with no evidence.

Third you recat your scum read on TSP and say that saving him is a good idea.
That is very much something a Mafia!anyone would do ot save their buddy TSP.
just don't lynch him and heal him with a 95% accuracy.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:42 am
by TonyStarkPrime
look, assuming town plays this semi rationally (which is not a guarantee), I am not dying today, so there's no reason (besides for me being glaringly towny) not to kill me

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:43 am
by Jackofhearts2005
If LP is correct, wouldn’t wolves multi class into L1warrior and L1paladin? I’ve never really groked multiclassing.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:43 am
by LinearPoint
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:41 am anyways if LP is correct we have to kill a wolf today and so I would therefore recommend not chopping me
I mean that was my first thought in this game and somehting I would have 100% pushed Mafia to do.
4 Lv1 Warrior spam is OP AF.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:44 am
by LinearPoint
There's probably a few different ways you could break the game from a Mafia PoV.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:45 am
by TonyStarkPrime
there's a bayes argument for killing lp here

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:46 am
by TonyStarkPrime
nah

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:46 am
by LinearPoint
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:45 am there's a bayes argument for killing lp here

Bayes? That's the first I've ever heard that term.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:46 am
by TonyStarkPrime
lp i need to you to find me town like in the next 10 minutes

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:46 am
by Dolby
LinearPoint wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:42 am
Dolby wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:37 am LP do you still believe that I recanted a sus on TSP and that me voting you and Dunya was "uncharacteristic" of my D2 activity
I literally have not played with you to my knowledge.
So I have no idea what your "town meta" is.

Second I won't just believe you that pushing Duyna and TSP is a thing only Town you would do with no evidence.

Third you recat your scum read on TSP and say that saving him is a good idea.
That is very much something a Mafia!anyone would do ot save their buddy TSP.
just don't lynch him and heal him with a 95% accuracy.
1. We played in TF2 and I'm actually slightly surprised you don't remember my slot bc I did have an important contribution to a scum yeet
2. I'm meh on TSP and I can't remember having anything beyond a slight read in either direction on him at any point. Frankly I don't see you can say that I, at any point on D2, had a harder scumread on him then you or Dunya. Especially in the hours close to EoD

Also it was Jack who proposed saving him. I'm honestly fine rn if he dies and should probably look more into it

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:47 am
by TonyStarkPrime
dolby do you have any coherent game thoughts right now

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:48 am
by Dolby
LP, vote me we're doming

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:48 am
by Dolby
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:47 am dolby do you have any coherent game thoughts right now
beyond LP w and CFC gang v, no

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:48 am
by TonyStarkPrime
town:
scotty
petit
jack
lp
tsp
??

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:48 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Dolby wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:48 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:47 am dolby do you have any coherent game thoughts right now
beyond LP w and CFC gang v, no
ok both of these are wrong (who's cfc gang again)

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:49 am
by Dolby
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:48 am
Dolby wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:48 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:47 am dolby do you have any coherent game thoughts right now
beyond LP w and CFC gang v, no
ok both of these are wrong (who's cfc gang again)
me/petit/syn/hk (rip)

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:49 am
by TonyStarkPrime
god that lp quote unquote slip is really bad but real slips don't happen

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:49 am
by TonyStarkPrime
but naa is town so then syn would have to be a wolf

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:50 am
by TonyStarkPrime
the naa-syn lockstep is obnoxious

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:50 am
by TonyStarkPrime
it's actually pretty uncanny

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:51 am
by Dolby
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:49 am god that lp quote unquote slip is really bad but real slips don't happen
LP claiming tracking sig was bad

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:52 am
by TonyStarkPrime
i possibly disagree i think it was plausibly good

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:52 am
by TonyStarkPrime
@sig please show up and save the game

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:53 am
by Dolby
nah, it's a cop out action with unproveable results within the "town" pathway

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:54 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Dolby wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:53 am nah, it's a cop out action with unproveable results within the "town" pathway
yeah of course it is and capping it off with a watch on the dead guy

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:54 am
by TonyStarkPrime
dolby dunya said that LP was town and that was basically the only discernable read that she was holding so

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:54 am
by Dolby
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:54 am
Dolby wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:53 am nah, it's a cop out action with unproveable results within the "town" pathway
yeah of course it is and capping it off with a watch on the dead guy
the watch on the dead guy was not n2

it was n1

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:55 am
by TonyStarkPrime
still sorta can't believe she flipped town tbh and I know I'm not supposed to say that but cmon

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:55 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Dolby wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:54 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:54 am
Dolby wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:53 am nah, it's a cop out action with unproveable results within the "town" pathway
yeah of course it is and capping it off with a watch on the dead guy
the watch on the dead guy was not n2

it was n1
I never implied otherwise