The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote:I don't agree with you. The kind of "information" you propose to gain by lynching somebody who is actually around is easily manipulated and for that reason generally useless. You call it information. I call it potential misinformation.

I am not suggesting a random dart throw. Serge is not random. Serge was deliberately selected.

You propose lynching an active player who might be good just so we have something to talk about Day 2. No thanks.

insertnamehere wrote:leetic, do you have a specific active player that you want to lynch today, or do you just disagree with Epig on theory alone?

leetic wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I don't agree with you. The kind of "information" you propose to gain by lynching somebody who is actually around is easily manipulated and for that reason generally useless. You call it information. I call it potential misinformation.

I am not suggesting a random dart throw. Serge is not random. Serge was deliberately selected.

You propose lynching an active player who might be good just so we have something to talk about Day 2. No thanks.

It makes it easier to read people if one person is confirmed town. Furthermore, Serge is for all purposes a random dart throw since he has no game related posts and nothing to go off of. But we should drop this discussion, since we're only wasting the day phase and that's the very thing I want to prevent.

leetic wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I don't agree with you. The kind of "information" you propose to gain by lynching somebody who is actually around is easily manipulated and for that reason generally useless. You call it information. I call it potential misinformation.

I am not suggesting a random dart throw. Serge is not random. Serge was deliberately selected.

You propose lynching an active player who might be good just so we have something to talk about Day 2. No thanks.

It makes it easier to read people if one person is confirmed town. Furthermore, Serge is for all purposes a random dart throw since he has no game related posts and nothing to go off of. But we should drop this discussion, since we're only wasting the day phase and that's the very thing I want to prevent.

insertnamehere wrote:I'm gonna take a risk and go with Serge. I feel more comfortable doing that than voting Quin, and I feel like there are some specific people who are pushing Serge, and I'm eager to see if they can be trusted.

Epignosis wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:I'm gonna take a risk and go with Serge. I feel more comfortable doing that than voting Quin, and I feel like there are some specific people who are pushing Serge, and I'm eager to see if they can be trusted.

So you are voting Serge to see if you can trust the people who would vote Serge but haven't yet?

That sets you up nicely in the event Serge does get lynched and is good, doesn't it?

insertnamehere wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:I'm gonna take a risk and go with Serge. I feel more comfortable doing that than voting Quin, and I feel like there are some specific people who are pushing Serge, and I'm eager to see if they can be trusted.

So you are voting Serge to see if you can trust the people who would vote Serge but haven't yet?

That sets you up nicely in the event Serge does get lynched and is good, doesn't it?

More like I just would like to not wait until the eleventh hour to vote, and I want to wait on Quin.

Of course, as pretty much everyone who has voted has said, if a better option presents itself, I'll go with that.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm currently really busy, so I'll be back to generate some juicy content either late tonight or sometime tomorrow before EoD.

For now, I have the following brief thoughts:

- I'm willing to tentatively throw out slight town reads of insertnamehere, leetic, and Epignosis/ika. I don't want to vote for any of them today due to their contributions, which all thus far seem genuine to me with respect to solving the game.

- I was going to slightly mafia read Silverwolf, but then she flew off the rails and I'm not sure what to make of all of that. Unfortunately for Quin, I still think Silverwolf was suspicious for latching onto the suspicion of me after ika started going after me as well as for her insistence of things that just weren't true (like that I was trying to get people to not form reads on ika, wtf?). It didn't read genuine to me, like instead she doubled down on aggressively pursuing me instead of recognizing she made a faulty point. I don't believe a town Silverwolf would fail to recognize when she was mistaken, but I'm not sure how confidently I believe that. I'd like to give Quin a chance, but... I don't currently have any other slight mafia reads and I'm torn between voting for him due to his predecessor's actions and going the route of a low poster policy lynch (as Epi suggested).

So... I'd like to see more from Quin (and many others), in an attempt to better direct this Day 1 lynch if at all possible. I always feel torn on low poster policy lynches; I can pick up what Epi is putting down but I can also pick up what leetic is putting down, and I'd ideally rather lynch someone I'm legitimately suspicious of than someone who just isn't here, at least on Day 1. But I've also seen too many games here in which town was too hesitant to pursue low posters not only Day 1 but throughout the game, to their demise.

leetic wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:leetic, do you have a specific active player that you want to lynch today, or do you just disagree with Epig on theory alone?

Not really a specific one. I currently have a vote on Silver's replacement, and Silver was not only scummy but if she flipped town there would be a lot of goodies to go off of since everyone (well, except for Serge that is) talked about her. If a better lynch arises, I'd be willing to go for it, but for now I think Silver is a decent lynch.

Epignosis wrote:Vote leetic with me, Silver's replacement.

insertnamehere wrote:So you think serge is bad, and you think leetic is bad for not wanting to lynch him, and your answer is to lynch leetic?

Why wouldn't you just lynch serge first, and if he comes up bad, lynch leetic the next day? I don't really see the logic here. Plus, I haven't seen enough to make me say leetic is acting scummy anyway.

Serge wrote:Also, weak sauce Epignosis, I would've tried to blend in as scum. Get someone else's jugular.

Epignosis wrote:

Serge wrote:Also, weak sauce Epignosis, I would've tried to blend in as scum. Get someone else's jugular.

Like you did in Turf Wars, with your three posts before Day 2? You blended so well drying paint looked more involved.

Serge wrote:I think I've said this before but day 1 is usually hazy for me. I think I said this on Turf Wars, it's the truth. If you believe me then we'll be able to make Mafia great again.

Serge wrote:I think leetic is right: it's better to not focus on low posters as they'll get replaced anyway. No self-respecting scum will win by being AWOL and by manufacturing reasons, they have to win it.

Is Quin ika's replacement? Or is it leetic?

rabbit8 wrote:

Serge wrote:I think I've said this before but day 1 is usually hazy for me. I think I said this on Turf Wars, it's the truth. If you believe me then we'll be able to make Mafia great again.

Why only post now? Votes?

Epignosis wrote:

Serge wrote:I think leetic is right: it's better to not focus on low posters as they'll get replaced anyway. No self-respecting scum will win by being AWOL and by manufacturing reasons, they have to win it.

Is Quin ika's replacement? Or is it leetic?

I've seen plenty of AWOL mafia in my time.

And you're not AWOL now, are you?

Serge wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

Serge wrote:I think I've said this before but day 1 is usually hazy for me. I think I said this on Turf Wars, it's the truth. If you believe me then we'll be able to make Mafia great again.

Why only post now? Votes?

Well players are becoming much more vocal for me to get thrown off the wall to the titans so I had to do something. I logged in yesterday, saw there was a lot of time left, and logged out.

Serge wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Serge wrote:I think leetic is right: it's better to not focus on low posters as they'll get replaced anyway. No self-respecting scum will win by being AWOL and by manufacturing reasons, they have to win it.

Is Quin ika's replacement? Or is it leetic?

I've seen plenty of AWOL mafia in my time.

And you're not AWOL now, are you?

Then they're bad players

Serge wrote:Day 2, Epignosis, is when my game starts.

Epignosis wrote:

Serge wrote:Day 2, Epignosis, is when my game starts.

Why?

Serge wrote:I think I've said this before but day 1 is usually hazy for me. I think I said this on Turf Wars, it's the truth. If you believe me then we'll be able to make Mafia great again.

Serge wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Serge wrote:Day 2, Epignosis, is when my game starts.

Why?

Serge wrote:I think I've said this before but day 1 is usually hazy for me. I think I said this on Turf Wars, it's the truth. If you believe me then we'll be able to make Mafia great again.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Where is agleaminranks have they posted anything this game?
Epi why serge and not agleaminranks ?

Epignosis wrote:I don't agree with you. The kind of "information" you propose to gain by lynching somebody who is actually around is easily manipulated and for that reason generally useless. You call it information. I call it potential misinformation.

I am not suggesting a random dart throw. Serge is not random. Serge was deliberately selected.

You propose lynching an active player who might be good just so we have something to talk about Day 2. No thanks.

MovingPictures07 wrote:For now, I have the following brief thoughts:

- I'm willing to tentatively throw out slight town reads of insertnamehere, leetic, and Epignosis/ika. I don't want to vote for any of them today due to their contributions, which all thus far seem genuine to me with respect to solving the game.

MovingPictures07 wrote:From where I'm sitting, I'd say insertnamehere is the low hanging fruit of Day 0. ika, Silver, leetic, rabbit, and Gordy all expressed negative views of him. What do others make of that? Easy target or deserving of attention?

agleaminranks wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:For now, I have the following brief thoughts:

- I'm willing to tentatively throw out slight town reads of insertnamehere, leetic, and Epignosis/ika. I don't want to vote for any of them today due to their contributions, which all thus far seem genuine to me with respect to solving the game.

I'm a little worried by this, MP. You said you don't want to vote for them just for contributing? I'm not gonna comment on the ika/Epi situation since I tried to avoid that whole heated debate, but as far as INH, you barely talked to him, and you seemed to only feel good about his stance because you disagreed with rabbit calling a scumread on him. But then you also gave rabbit a town read too?

You also said this:

MovingPictures07 wrote:From where I'm sitting, I'd say insertnamehere is the low hanging fruit of Day 0. ika, Silver, leetic, rabbit, and Gordy all expressed negative views of him. What do others make of that? Easy target or deserving of attention?

Feels like you're pretty damned determined to prove his innocence. I don't know if this is too telling of ally-talk just yet.

rabbit8 wrote:I'm voting sig. I didn't like her no u post.

sig wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

sig wrote:

Quin wrote:Points of interest - pardon me for not drawing quotes, I can't be assed with that right now.

There's some fluff conversation between sig and wilgy early on. Wilgy joking about being scum isn't surprising, but I haven't seen that sort of thing from sig before. ika (Epi) picked up on sig too, but his reasoning just comes down to guts so it's credibility is something to be desired. Although, if sig ever flipped bad I think that would favour Epi somewhat.


Placing a resting vote on sig, because why not.

This all goes up to about page 5, but I've got to stop for a minute. I'll come back.

NO U
Quin

On a more serious note, I've joked around about being bad before. It was very early day 0 fluff there was no meaning behind it what so ever. I find it strange you're trying to give it a meaning when it was clearly fluffyness.

Is this a serious accusation? Or just bullshit NO U voted me, I'm voting you?

It's hard to tell since you guys, girls (some gender neutral nonsense here) just throw your votes around like their meaningless.

Semi serious, I doubt I'll leave it on Quin, but him picking at my fluff is pingy.

agleaminranks wrote:I was going to bring up the same on leetic, but there was less interaction between the two. In fact, MP asked them a question twice which I don't think got answered. It also confuses me on MP's part, then, why he would feel good about leetic.

insertnamehere wrote:

agleaminranks wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:For now, I have the following brief thoughts:

- I'm willing to tentatively throw out slight town reads of insertnamehere, leetic, and Epignosis/ika. I don't want to vote for any of them today due to their contributions, which all thus far seem genuine to me with respect to solving the game.

I'm a little worried by this, MP. You said you don't want to vote for them just for contributing? I'm not gonna comment on the ika/Epi situation since I tried to avoid that whole heated debate, but as far as INH, you barely talked to him, and you seemed to only feel good about his stance because you disagreed with rabbit calling a scumread on him. But then you also gave rabbit a town read too?

You also said this:

MovingPictures07 wrote:From where I'm sitting, I'd say insertnamehere is the low hanging fruit of Day 0. ika, Silver, leetic, rabbit, and Gordy all expressed negative views of him. What do others make of that? Easy target or deserving of attention?

Feels like you're pretty damned determined to prove his innocence. I don't know if this is too telling of ally-talk just yet.

I'm interested in why you decided to single me out instead of leetic. If you disagree with MP's read of me, I'd love to hear some reasoning behind that.

Right now, your suspicion of me seems to have as much behind it as MP's townread of me. Guess which one I'm more inclined to trust.

insertnamehere wrote:

agleaminranks wrote:I was going to bring up the same on leetic, but there was less interaction between the two. In fact, MP asked them a question twice which I don't think got answered. It also confuses me on MP's part, then, why he would feel good about leetic.

Is there anyone in particular you feel good about?

sig wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:I'm voting sig. I didn't like her no u post.

I'd have moved my vote if Quin had answered my point, but he hasn't yet. Why though are you voting for me based on that, but never reneged me or mentioned me until this post?

rabbit8 wrote:

sig wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

sig wrote:

Quin wrote:Points of interest - pardon me for not drawing quotes, I can't be assed with that right now.

There's some fluff conversation between sig and wilgy early on. Wilgy joking about being scum isn't surprising, but I haven't seen that sort of thing from sig before. ika (Epi) picked up on sig too, but his reasoning just comes down to guts so it's credibility is something to be desired. Although, if sig ever flipped bad I think that would favour Epi somewhat.


Placing a resting vote on sig, because why not.

This all goes up to about page 5, but I've got to stop for a minute. I'll come back.

NO U
Quin

On a more serious note, I've joked around about being bad before. It was very early day 0 fluff there was no meaning behind it what so ever. I find it strange you're trying to give it a meaning when it was clearly fluffyness.

Is this a serious accusation? Or just bullshit NO U voted me, I'm voting you?

It's hard to tell since you guys, girls (some gender neutral nonsense here) just throw your votes around like their meaningless.

Semi serious, I doubt I'll leave it on Quin, but him picking at my fluff is pingy.

This never happened?

rabbit8 wrote:

sig wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

sig wrote:

Quin wrote:Points of interest - pardon me for not drawing quotes, I can't be assed with that right now.

There's some fluff conversation between sig and wilgy early on. Wilgy joking about being scum isn't surprising, but I haven't seen that sort of thing from sig before. ika (Epi) picked up on sig too, but his reasoning just comes down to guts so it's credibility is something to be desired. Although, if sig ever flipped bad I think that would favour Epi somewhat.


Placing a resting vote on sig, because why not.

This all goes up to about page 5, but I've got to stop for a minute. I'll come back.

NO U
Quin

On a more serious note, I've joked around about being bad before. It was very early day 0 fluff there was no meaning behind it what so ever. I find it strange you're trying to give it a meaning when it was clearly fluffyness.

Is this a serious accusation? Or just bullshit NO U voted me, I'm voting you?

It's hard to tell since you guys, girls (some gender neutral nonsense here) just throw your votes around like their meaningless.

Semi serious, I doubt I'll leave it on Quin, but him picking at my fluff is pingy.

This never happened?

Quin wrote:Points of interest - pardon me for not drawing quotes, I can't be assed with that right now.

There's some fluff conversation between sig and wilgy early on. Wilgy joking about being scum isn't surprising, but I haven't seen that sort of thing from sig before. ika (Epi) picked up on sig too, but his reasoning just comes down to guts so it's credibility is something to be desired. Although, if sig ever flipped bad I think that would favour Epi somewhat.


Placing a resting vote on sig, because why not.

This all goes up to about page 5, but I've got to stop for a minute. I'll come back.