The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:25 pm**

sig wrote:
motel room wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:
motel room wrote:
Vompatti wrote:I wouldn't mind wine in front of me if you know what I mean.
Don't do it, you wind up with five bottles on the grass and a gash in your hand and a hangover at work today.
what's your read on long con?
who
This is a super weird post by motel room.

Also it is to god damn early to be playing Christmas music, this is what's wrong with our country! Christmas music before Thanksgiving.

eveey damn day my gf smells cinnamon or hears bells or imagines little elves and turns to me going "It's Christmas!"

No. no, it's not, honey. At least let the pilgrims have their day this month.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:28 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote:Hey Mac, it's clear we are both civilian this game so let's team up.

Why?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Sorry, had to fix some dinner.

Did you break dinner before you fixed it?

After rereading MP post I still have the same feeling lots of post, but not alot said if that makes sense?

Also he responded very defensively to both mine and Epis posts.

One last thing I find odd he defends himself from Epi's observation by saying he usually roles scum so they shouldn't count........He is basically saying he is more likely to be mafia and still not really rebutting Epi's point. It just seems like a really weird way to defend oneself.

I've gotta head over to class but I'll be back in time to vote.
I'm looking at Blooper, Soneji, MP, and motel right now.

Blooper/Soneji for their votes on Wilgy

linki: Very true re meta, but lynching based around the fact Wilgy is being Wilgy is bad, since his early meta is usually the same regardless of alignment.

Yeah the mall and the starbucks down here have been playing Christmas stuff since the beginning of November, wayyyyy to early.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:29 pm**

Why is no one talking about me? This is odd for me for a day 1.

I like dog's entrance. (Note that my phone routinely likes to change his name to "dog" or "sog"). I don't like zebra's entrance. And motel room is playing very minimally and I don't mind the case against him, but zebra will be getting my vote if she doesn't check in today.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:30 pm**

Scotty wrote:Why is no one talking about me? This is odd for me for a day 1.

I like dog's entrance. (Note that my phone routinely likes to change his name to "dog" or "sog"). I don't like zebra's entrance. And motel room is playing very minimally and I don't mind the case against him, but zebra will be getting my vote if she doesn't check in today.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME. Sig sig sig this mothafuckin phone is sneaky

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:08 pm**

I'm calling five missing votes for Day 1.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:12 pm**

Scotty wrote:Why is no one talking about me? This is odd for me for a day 1.

I like dog's entrance. (Note that my phone routinely likes to change his name to "dog" or "sog"). I don't like zebra's entrance. And motel room is playing very minimally and I don't mind the case against him, but zebra will be getting my vote if she doesn't check in today.

I was thinking of voting zebra too. Reason 1, he has only posted a bunch of emoticons which in itself is annoying. Reason 2, he is the first name on the list.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:14 pm**

Not going to be here for EoD, sorry, just got home, leaving now for lunch with the wife, then errands. Voted motel room.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:15 pm**

i don't understand this motel room vote. He's has posted drunk most of the time and he didn't come back after a question. That's it! (better than nothing I suppose, and I don't know him anyway so....urgh)

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:17 pm**

I'm trusting my process and voting MovingPictures07.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:18 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote:Not going to be here for EoD, sorry, just got home, leaving now for lunch with the wife, then errands. Voted motel room.

Have I missed something? I didn't see this vote coming.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:19 pm**

Epignosis wrote:I'm trusting my process and voting MovingPictures07.

You may be on to something.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:24 pm**

Scotty wrote:Hey @nacho you conveniently skipped my questions to you. Do you have any response at all to what I said?

sig wrote:I don't want to lynch Wilgy all I'm seeing is his normal meta at this point.
Meta is like a Jackson Pollack painting. Easy to imitate with a cat, a can of paint and a few tequilas. Relying on metas, especially on day 1, is hugely unreliable unless that person is predictable to a T. And Wilgy is fully capable of churning out CHRISTMAS in July.

Snow Dog wrote:Well I gotta admit i am not clear at all on who to vote for. It may reluctantly go to a non poster.

I'm not sure what you asked me; as stated before, am working and skimming like a motherfucker so I don't get fired over a mafia game.

I don't understand why moving pictures is getting votes. Epignosis's case is that his tier lists are more nuanced as town but expecting a nuanced reads list in this fluff/lurk fest is equivalent to expecting an ocean in the desert.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:24 pm**

Motel room is still where it's at.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:02 pm**

motel-san

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:04 pm**

Epignosis wrote:I'm calling five missing votes for Day 1.

Make that four i voted

Voted mp, his playstyle is reminding me of the scrimmage and his vote fkr motel is odd as is his defensive behaviour. While I'm okay with a motel lynxh it seems really ooc for mp.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:15 pm**

Although I am now suspicious of MP I am reluctant to vote for him.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:15 pm**

Nine missing votes. Damn. Way off.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:16 pm**

Eight minutes to go.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:16 pm**

Epignosis wrote:Nine missing votes. Damn. Way off.

It's not over yet.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:17 pm**

Epignosis wrote:Eight minutes to go.

Yeah I'm toying with an MP vote but part of me wants to see how motel turns out.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:18 pm**

Snow Dog wrote:i don't understand this motel room vote. He's has posted drunk most of the time and he didn't come back after a question. That's it! (better than nothing I suppose, and I don't know him anyway so....urgh)

Yeah it's definitely not winning "Case of the Year", but I don't think that makes it a bad vote. What about the MP vote entices you?

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:19 pm**

I am free 15 minutes early!!!

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:20 pm**

Nachomamma8 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:i don't understand this motel room vote. He's has posted drunk most of the time and he didn't come back after a question. That's it! (better than nothing I suppose, and I don't know him anyway so....urgh)
Yeah it's definitely not winning "Case of the Year", but I don't think that makes it a bad vote. What about the MP vote entices you?

his Buddying up, his last minute motel vote that seemed to come from nowhere, and..I dunno....a feeling.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:20 pm**

sig wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I'm calling five missing votes for Day 1.
Make that four i voted

Voted mp, his playstyle is reminding me of the scrimmage and his vote fkr motel is odd as is his defensive behaviour. While I'm okay with a motel lynxh it seems really ooc for mp.

Why was MP's motel vote odd for you?

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:20 pm**

Nachomamma8 wrote:I am free 15 minutes early!!!

Yay!

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:21 pm**

Snow Dog wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:i don't understand this motel room vote. He's has posted drunk most of the time and he didn't come back after a question. That's it! (better than nothing I suppose, and I don't know him anyway so....urgh)
Yeah it's definitely not winning "Case of the Year", but I don't think that makes it a bad vote. What about the MP vote entices you?
his Buddying up, his last minute motel vote that seemed to come from nowhere, and..I dunno....a feeling.

The motel vote didn't really come from anywhere from my perspective; I had been talking about it in thread for a while, he was townreading me, Golden vetted it, not like he had strong feelings elsewhere.

As for the buddying point, my rebuttal for that is mostly personal but it'd be a shame if he got lynched for making me feel.welcome!

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:22 pm**

Nachomamma8 wrote:
sig wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I'm calling five missing votes for Day 1.
Make that four i voted

Voted mp, his playstyle is reminding me of the scrimmage and his vote fkr motel is odd as is his defensive behaviour. While I'm okay with a motel lynxh it seems really ooc for mp.
Why was MP's motel vote odd for you?

I may be wrong, but I did a quick read and he doesn't seem to have been a potential vote before for him. If I am wrong i apologise to him.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:23 pm**

Nachomamma8 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:i don't understand this motel room vote. He's has posted drunk most of the time and he didn't come back after a question. That's it! (better than nothing I suppose, and I don't know him anyway so....urgh)
Yeah it's definitely not winning "Case of the Year", but I don't think that makes it a bad vote. What about the MP vote entices you?
his Buddying up, his last minute motel vote that seemed to come from nowhere, and..I dunno....a feeling.
The motel vote didn't really come from anywhere from my perspective; I had been talking about it in thread for a while, he was townreading me, Golden vetted it, not like he had strong feelings elsewhere.

As for the buddying point, my rebuttal for that is mostly personal but it'd be a shame if he got lynched for making me feel.welcome!

It wasn't just you. He did it to others too.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:23 pm**

Nachomamma8 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:i don't understand this motel room vote. He's has posted drunk most of the time and he didn't come back after a question. That's it! (better than nothing I suppose, and I don't know him anyway so....urgh)
Yeah it's definitely not winning "Case of the Year", but I don't think that makes it a bad vote. What about the MP vote entices you?
his Buddying up, his last minute motel vote that seemed to come from nowhere, and..I dunno....a feeling.
The motel vote didn't really come from anywhere from my perspective; I had been talking about it in thread for a while, he was townreading me, Golden vetted it, not like he had strong feelings elsewhere.

As for the buddying point, my rebuttal for that is mostly personal but it'd be a shame if he got lynched for making me feel.welcome!

Oh and to add to the whole "motel vote didn't come from out of the blue" narrative he's mostly been town leaning people, doesn't have any real scum leans. This is how most people feel at this point I think.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:23 pm**

Nachomamma8 wrote:
Scotty wrote:Hey @nacho you conveniently skipped my questions to you. Do you have any response at all to what I said?

sig wrote:I don't want to lynch Wilgy all I'm seeing is his normal meta at this point.
Meta is like a Jackson Pollack painting. Easy to imitate with a cat, a can of paint and a few tequilas. Relying on metas, especially on day 1, is hugely unreliable unless that person is predictable to a T. And Wilgy is fully capable of churning out CHRISTMAS in July.

Snow Dog wrote:Well I gotta admit i am not clear at all on who to vote for. It may reluctantly go to a non poster.

I'm not sure what you asked me; as stated before, am working and skimming like a motherfucker so I don't get fired over a mafia game.

I don't understand why moving pictures is getting votes. Epignosis's case is that his tier lists are more nuanced as town but expecting a nuanced reads list in this fluff/lurk fest is equivalent to expecting an ocean in the desert.

Well I was talking about the very thing you're not doing, which is your assumed tendency to finish thoughts soundly. That you are skimming is what I assumed you didn't like doing, but I understand real life commitments. I'm mostly just picking your brain on your playstyle, so just let me know when you have time to get back to me. (I'm assuming nights will be unlocked)

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:24 pm**

Snow Dog wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:i don't understand this motel room vote. He's has posted drunk most of the time and he didn't come back after a question. That's it! (better than nothing I suppose, and I don't know him anyway so....urgh)
Yeah it's definitely not winning "Case of the Year", but I don't think that makes it a bad vote. What about the MP vote entices you?
his Buddying up, his last minute motel vote that seemed to come from nowhere, and..I dunno....a feeling.
The motel vote didn't really come from anywhere from my perspective; I had been talking about it in thread for a while, he was townreading me, Golden vetted it, not like he had strong feelings elsewhere.

As for the buddying point, my rebuttal for that is mostly personal but it'd be a shame if he got lynched for making me feel.welcome!
It wasn't just you. He did it to others too.

With Mac? Don't think his interactions seemed buddying to anyone else but that might just be me.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:24 pm**

Voting for Zebra. Done!

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:25 pm**

Scotty wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:
Scotty wrote:Hey @nacho you conveniently skipped my questions to you. Do you have any response at all to what I said?

sig wrote:I don't want to lynch Wilgy all I'm seeing is his normal meta at this point.
Meta is like a Jackson Pollack painting. Easy to imitate with a cat, a can of paint and a few tequilas. Relying on metas, especially on day 1, is hugely unreliable unless that person is predictable to a T. And Wilgy is fully capable of churning out CHRISTMAS in July.

Snow Dog wrote:Well I gotta admit i am not clear at all on who to vote for. It may reluctantly go to a non poster.

I'm not sure what you asked me; as stated before, am working and skimming like a motherfucker so I don't get fired over a mafia game.

I don't understand why moving pictures is getting votes. Epignosis's case is that his tier lists are more nuanced as town but expecting a nuanced reads list in this fluff/lurk fest is equivalent to expecting an ocean in the desert.
Well I was talking about the very thing you're not doing, which is your assumed tendency to finish thoughts soundly. That you are skimming is what I assumed you didn't like doing, but I understand real life commitments. I'm mostly just picking your brain on your playstyle, so just let me know when you have time to get back to me. (I'm assuming nights will be unlocked)

I have a little time, I'll check back.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:25 pm**

Nachomamma8 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:i don't understand this motel room vote. He's has posted drunk most of the time and he didn't come back after a question. That's it! (better than nothing I suppose, and I don't know him anyway so....urgh)
Yeah it's definitely not winning "Case of the Year", but I don't think that makes it a bad vote. What about the MP vote entices you?
his Buddying up, his last minute motel vote that seemed to come from nowhere, and..I dunno....a feeling.
The motel vote didn't really come from anywhere from my perspective; I had been talking about it in thread for a while, he was townreading me, Golden vetted it, not like he had strong feelings elsewhere.

As for the buddying point, my rebuttal for that is mostly personal but it'd be a shame if he got lynched for making me feel.welcome!
It wasn't just you. He did it to others too.
With Mac? Don't think his interactions seemed buddying to anyone else but that might just be me.

Alternatively it could be my faulty understanding of "buddying" because I thought he id it with me too.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:29 pm**

Ok we shall see, can't wait!!!

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:30 pm**

Scotty wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:Also of note, I won't be here that much tomorrow (assuming deadline is when the poll expires) - I have work until the deadline and don't have the type of job that I can post from easily and so if you have any burning questions or things you want to bring up or talk, ask them in the next hour; I'll try to get to other stuff but no real promises.
So I like the cut of your jib jab (or however that phrase goes).

You mentioned earlier that you are trying to weed out like 50% of the pool to give you a better idea of who to vote for in day 1 for some sort of POE (I think that was you), and now you've probably settled on motel room. Do you usually find yourself voting for someone who seems ingenuine as like a tone thing, or who doesn't soundly defend their actions? Just by your tone it feels like the latter, like I used to banter with my lawyer uncle about the anti-establishment in government.

You also seem like MP in that these sort of semantic arguments need a profound conclusion or else you'll subtly threaten to post more until that conclusion is reached and you get the last word in. Am I right in that assumption?

I'm asking because I think I am going to be a different player than you in that I often operate under the assumption that not all answers will be given and so I take my crossword puzzle to the bathroom to think through things while I sit on my throne of thinking.

I vote for both reasons. I tend to focus on tone for people I know well (I find tone reasons ineffective with strangers except for a few exceptions), but I have higher confidence making a vote on people who have done something I find scummy and struggle defending it.

Your assumption is right and wrong; if I feel a player is avoiding answering my questions or attacking me or another player through misreps or things that I don't think they believe, I'll pursue them to the ends of the earth but this is mostly because of my own play style; as scum, I use loudness and conviction and genuine sounding posts to cover up misrepping and extended arguments about things that don't matter so when I find that happening with others I can be a little too aggressive, relentless, annoying.

I don't think we have all the answers before us today. I do believe there is an optimal lynch to make for town every day and I try to get as close to that as possible.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:31 pm**

I hope that was the type of response you were looking for; it's mostly an off the cuff response thanks to imminent deadline and mobile posting so don't hesitate to let me know if I don't make a whole lot of sense.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:31 pm**

Also I think Snow Dog is town if I haven't mentioned that before.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:33 pm**

It's a little sad that the mod/dead wagon is bigger than the lynch wagon but I still have high hopes!!!!!

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:37 pm**

Nachomamma8 wrote:Also I think Snow Dog is town if I haven't mentioned that before.

i normally like to be hard to read, so what makes you think this?

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:06 pm**

Shit, I missed it by afew min.

Im gut reading MP as bad and would've voted there.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:09 pm**

Day 1
Who is a ghost pirate?

Poll ended at Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:24:09 pm

a2thezebra
1
Scotty (18) 6%
birdwithteeth11
0
No votes
Black Rock
0
No votes
Boomslang
0
No votes
DFaraday
0
No votes
Dr. Wilgy
2
Soneji (6), nijuukyugou (10) 11%
Elohcin
0
No votes
Epignosis
0
No votes
Golden
0
No votes
Long Con
0
No votes
MacDougall
0
No votes
Metalmarsh89
1
Vompatti (12) 6%
motel room
4
Nachomamma8 (9), Boomslang (11), MovingPictures07 (14), Metalmarsh89 (16) 22%
MovingPictures07
3
Long Con (7), Epignosis (15), sig (17) 17%
Nachomamma8
0
No votes
Nijuukyugou
1
Golden (8) 6%
Quin
1
Quin (3) 6%
Scotty
0
No votes
Sig
0
No votes
Soneji
0
No votes
Vompatti
0
No votes
That little dog in the corner (Host/Mod/Dead/NP)
5
thellama73 (1), JaggedJimmyJay (2), Snow Dog (4), juliets (5), G-Man (13) 28%
Total votes : 18

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:15 pm**

Night 1

If there's one thing the Scumm Bar is crawling with, it is pirates, and seeing as how you want to become a pirate yourself and take on the evil scourge of the high seas, this seems as good a a place as any to gather information. Your eyes are drawn to a swarthy, rough-looking sailor in a surprisingly stylish hat, He seems to be waiting for you to ask him something, but have you the courage?

Meanwhile, a fight breaks out, as fights are wont to do in places like this, and Motel Room is killed. He shouldn't have put his elbows on the table.

Motel Room has been lynched. He was the Fettuccine Bros.
It is now Night 1. You have 24 hours to submit your night actions.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:17 pm**

Ah well. Sorry motel.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:21 pm**

This was a very weak reason I'm espacilly eyeing MP and the people who voted for Zebra.

I also find it odd WIlgy missed the vote, if MP does end up being mafia I'd like to look into lynching Wilgy.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:23 pm**

Drunk darts have failed.
I will probably catch up when I get home. Sig, why were you bothered by MP's motel room vote?

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:25 pm**

I agree that Wigly missing the vote was odd; if he didn't read his role PM, why would he care overmuch about who he voted?

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:34 pm**

Nachomamma8 wrote:Drunk darts have failed.
I will probably catch up when I get home. Sig, why were you bothered by MP's motel room vote?

It seemed to have come out of nowhere and was an easy scapegoat for a day 1 vote, I do believe that day 1 can be the easiest to catch mafia on weak reasoning, so they're more likely to find something dumb, to throw a vote on and that was something you could throw a vote on. Like I said it seems to be a lack of reasoning and not something civ MP would do.

linki: I find the vote missing more odd then the not reading role card, I think he has and is just saying he hasn't

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:43 pm**

sig wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:Drunk darts have failed.
I will probably catch up when I get home. Sig, why were you bothered by MP's motel room vote?
It seemed to have come out of nowhere and was an easy scapegoat for a day 1 vote, I do believe that day 1 can be the easiest to catch mafia on weak reasoning, so they're more likely to find something dumb, to throw a vote on and that was something you could throw a vote on. Like I said it seems to be a lack of reasoning and not something civ MP would do.

linki: I find the vote missing more odd then the not reading role card, I think he has and is just saying he hasn't

Well if he hadn't or hasn't read his role then we cannot know if he is bad. Even he wouldn't know. So we can tell absolutely nothing about his alliance from his statement.

Posted: **Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:45 pm**

Nachomamma8 wrote:I agree that Wigly missing the vote was odd; if he didn't read his role PM, why would he care overmuch about who he voted?

I frown upon those who miss the vote, and thus I'll frown upon myself when I miss the vote. My opinions should still be heard shouldn't they? (also the vote ended while I was at work, I don't think it's that odd to miss because of this)

Didn't I explain that I'd help town regardless of what I know and don't know?

I'm gonna finish reading day 1 now.

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