The Syndicate

FZ. wrote:I'm spending so much time defending myself.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

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speedchuck wrote:Right now, I've got a POE going on.

DO NOT LYNCH:
Dyslexicon
Marmot
Epignosis
JaggedJimmyJay
Long Con
speedchuck
Wilgy
MovingPictures07

NOT GONNA COMPLAIN:
FZ
nutella

MAYBE LYNCH:
Luke11646
insertnamehere
Elohcin

That's not to say that my not lynch people are all town, but in terms of who I want to lynch right now, this is my happy list. It's not very unique, but it's a start. I've got a few more thoughts that I think you'll get while catching up, but a current POE list never hurts.

speedchuck, I take beef with this list. Your MAYBE LYNCH includes the three players who are least involved in this game. That's easyville, and easy for a baddie to take no heat for.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

FZ. wrote:I'm spending so much time defending myself.

Pardon my crudeness, but fuck all that. Reads right now are more useful than defense.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

FZ. wrote:Maybe you're being genuine, I don't know. I like the fact that you're at least considering things, but look at Speedchuck's list:
MP
Epi
Marmot
Long Con
JaggedJimmyJay
insertnamehere
Dyslexicon
Luke11646
nutella
FZ
DrWilgy
Eloh

The middle group was in blue. While you were suspicious of me at that time, you didn't say anything about Wilgy or Eloh. I thought that in mafia, we're trying to find the baddies, not the civvies, and if you were interested in his motives, why not inquire about the suspects and not the civvie? Why was it so important for you to understand why he thought someone, who was not even discussed much at that point, was a civ? I can't really understand this.


And by the way, I am more careful when it comes to talking about information. Remember that game you hosted (that I shall not name), where Epi and LC were doing everything they could to lynch me, and I wouldn't say anything of importance until I really lost it? That's how I play. The thing I don't hide, is my thoughts at any relevant point. I realise that it may make me look bad when I say someone might be suspicious, but then again not, at the same time, but I don't really care. I have nothing to hide.

What do you think of Nutella's post where she gives her reasoning for voting me? Please refer to its timing as well.

FZ., I really want to trust you, but this response further concerns me, most notably the orange stuff. Here's why:

You seem way more concerned in criticizing the way I went about something and justifying your inquiry of me for that reason, rather than trying to figure out if my manner of playing (even if it may be different than the way you would expect yourself to play in that situation) is indicative of whether or not I'm being genuine.

You preface your response with "Maybe you're being genuine", but then proceed to pretty much chastise my methods of hunting for townies rather than mafia. That is suspicious at face value; it displays a perspective that you're more interested in justifying a baddie read of me than in trying to solve me and understand where I'm coming from.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm feeling inspired. I want to lynch FZ. I'm not letting the fear of mislynching her stand in the way. That response of hers really bothers me.

FZ. wrote:I gave my reads on MP, Nutella and also INH. I feel like I wasted too much time defending myself which is why I hate when that happens. It's a circle thing where you're poked for not giving names, when all you do all the time is defend yourself. Yet, I feel I still talked about suspicions. I'm sorry you don't like them. That doesn't make me bad. It either makes me wrong, or it makes me smarter than the rest.

FZ. wrote:I gave my reads on MP, Nutella and also INH. I feel like I wasted too much time defending myself which is why I hate when that happens. It's a circle thing where you're poked for not giving names, when all you do all the time is defend yourself. Yet, I feel I still talked about suspicions. I'm sorry you don't like them. That doesn't make me bad. It either makes me wrong, or it makes me smarter than the rest.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

FZ. wrote:I'm spending so much time defending myself.

Pardon my crudeness, but fuck all that. Reads right now are more useful than defense.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I refuse to vote for Elo, INH, or Luke, especially when two legitimate suspects (FZ. and nutella) are floating around.

With that said, Elo and INH especially need to get their shit together and get in here and make some reads.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

FZ. wrote:I gave my reads on MP, Nutella and also INH. I feel like I wasted too much time defending myself which is why I hate when that happens. It's a circle thing where you're poked for not giving names, when all you do all the time is defend yourself. Yet, I feel I still talked about suspicions. I'm sorry you don't like them. That doesn't make me bad. It either makes me wrong, or it makes me smarter than the rest.

You have no opinion whatsoever on anyone else in the game?

How is it you're reading nutella as bad when you compared the treatment of yourself to the treatment of her earlier? I don't understand that.

And INH? You mean the guy that isn't even here?

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

FZ. wrote:I'm spending so much time defending myself.

Pardon my crudeness, but fuck all that. Reads right now are more useful than defense.

To be fair, I think FZ. is accustomed to instances where civilians don't win if they're dead. If that's a true reflection of her subconscious thinking right now, I'd say that is a civilian indicator.

speedchuck wrote:Dizzy is my favorite player this game.

FZ. wrote:Do you actually read my posts? Or are you too vain and sure of yourself that you just fit everything to you wrong (or evil) theory? You want to lynch me, lynch me, just don't say false things when you haven't read what I write. You'll be viewed differently after I'm lynched. Pretty sure twisting my words will come bite you in the ass when I'm gone. I explained what I felt about Nutella now. I explained to JJJ why I said what I said about INH, and also commented on the fact he isn't here now.

FZ. wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

FZ. wrote:I gave my reads on MP, Nutella and also INH. I feel like I wasted too much time defending myself which is why I hate when that happens. It's a circle thing where you're poked for not giving names, when all you do all the time is defend yourself. Yet, I feel I still talked about suspicions. I'm sorry you don't like them. That doesn't make me bad. It either makes me wrong, or it makes me smarter than the rest.

You have no opinion whatsoever on anyone else in the game?

How is it you're reading nutella as bad when you compared the treatment of yourself to the treatment of her earlier? I don't understand that.

And INH? You mean the guy that isn't even here?

Do you actually read my posts? Or are you too vain and sure of yourself that you just fit everything to you wrong (or evil) theory? You want to lynch me, lynch me, just don't say false things when you haven't read what I write. You'll be viewed differently after I'm lynched. Pretty sure twisting my words will come bite you in the ass when I'm gone. I explained what I felt about Nutella now. I explained to JJJ why I said what I said about INH, and also commented on the fact he isn't here now.

FZ. wrote:Civ reads:

Epi
Wilgy
Chuck


Oh, did I forget to mention that LC is not up my trusted list either. Sorry if I'm suspicious of almost everyone who is suspicious of me. But he was "pinged" by my one post, and ever since is letting everyone else do the fighting while he is sitting back and not really saying anything.

Dyslexicon wrote:I think I like MP this EoD, dare I say it.

FZ. wrote:Civ reads:

Epi
Wilgy
Chuck


Oh, did I forget to mention that LC is not up my trusted list either. Sorry if I'm suspicious of almost everyone who is suspicious of me. But he was "pinged" by my one post, and ever since is letting everyone else do the fighting while he is sitting back and not really saying anything.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:I think I like MP this EoD, dare I say it.

The feeling is mutual.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

FZ. wrote:I'm spending so much time defending myself.

Pardon my crudeness, but fuck all that. Reads right now are more useful than defense.

To be fair, I think FZ. is accustomed to instances where civilians don't win if they're dead. If that's a true reflection of her subconscious thinking right now, I'd say that is a civilian indicator.

This is worth considering.

What do you think, Skeletor? Top 3 mafia reads? Anything else on your mind?

Epignosis wrote:I skimmed the front page and I didn't see a note regarding ties, so I think we'd best avoid one.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

FZ. wrote:Do you actually read my posts? Or are you too vain and sure of yourself that you just fit everything to you wrong (or evil) theory? You want to lynch me, lynch me, just don't say false things when you haven't read what I write. You'll be viewed differently after I'm lynched. Pretty sure twisting my words will come bite you in the ass when I'm gone. I explained what I felt about Nutella now. I explained to JJJ why I said what I said about INH, and also commented on the fact he isn't here now.

So, to be quite clear: you suspect MP is opportunistic in this moment and is not genuine in his suspicion of you? Yes or no.

speedchuck wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:I think I like MP this EoD, dare I say it.

The feeling is mutual.

MP also likes MP this EOD.

speedchuck wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:I think I like MP this EoD, dare I say it.

The feeling is mutual.

MP also likes MP this EOD.

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

FZ. wrote:I'm spending so much time defending myself.

Pardon my crudeness, but fuck all that. Reads right now are more useful than defense.

To be fair, I think FZ. is accustomed to instances where civilians don't win if they're dead. If that's a true reflection of her subconscious thinking right now, I'd say that is a civilian indicator.

This is worth considering.

What do you think, Skeletor? Top 3 mafia reads? Anything else on your mind?

I've only got the one suspect now.

I have been toying with the notion that Wilgy, who was a civilian last time and went after me, is trying to replicate that behavior and, in a reverse-psychology kind of manner, get me to believe he's good again.

FZ. wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

FZ. wrote:Do you actually read my posts? Or are you too vain and sure of yourself that you just fit everything to you wrong (or evil) theory? You want to lynch me, lynch me, just don't say false things when you haven't read what I write. You'll be viewed differently after I'm lynched. Pretty sure twisting my words will come bite you in the ass when I'm gone. I explained what I felt about Nutella now. I explained to JJJ why I said what I said about INH, and also commented on the fact he isn't here now.

So, to be quite clear: you suspect MP is opportunistic in this moment and is not genuine in his suspicion of you? Yes or no.

Like I said, his obsession is making me fear I was wrong about him and he might be a civ. Not willing to let my suspicion die yet, but obsessed MP is usually civvie



linki: MP, I'm sorry. I let frustration get the better of me. Shouldn't happen.

insertnamehere wrote:oh hi, what's up

oh look, a three way tie that I get to decide.

well gee wilikers

insertnamehere wrote:oh hi, what's up

oh look, a three way tie that I get to decide.

well gee wilikers

insertnamehere wrote:oh hi, what's up

oh look, a three way tie that I get to decide.

well gee wilikers

MovingPictures07 wrote:It's cool, we're cool. I'm sorry too if my tone has come across as arrogant or inconsiderate. It's all just a part of the game. I've tried not to slip into King of Fuck Mountain mode as much as these days because it's led me to a mislynches and subsequent egg on my face, but sometimes I can't help myself.

Epignosis wrote:Long Con started a lynch against FZ., and my view is that if you do that, you should engage with your victim to determine if you are wrong or right and move or leave your vote accordingly.

It doesn't look to me like LC has made that effort and therefore doesn't really care if FZ. is good or bad.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:It's cool, we're cool. I'm sorry too if my tone has come across as arrogant or inconsiderate. It's all just a part of the game. I've tried not to slip into King of Fuck Mountain mode as much as these days because it's led me to a mislynches and subsequent egg on my face, but sometimes I can't help myself.

Now the newer people are going to think that nickname belongs to you.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I refuse to vote for Elo, INH, or Luke, especially when two legitimate suspects (FZ. and nutella) are floating around.

With that said, Elo and INH especially need to get their shit together and get in here and make some reads.