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Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 1:50 am
by DharmaHelper
I believe we should ensure, as a matter of mutual safety, that No Lynch has a majority of the vote.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 1:52 am
by DharmaHelper
DharmaHelper wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 1:50 am I believe we should ensure, as a matter of mutual safety, that No Lynch has a majority of the vote.
Which is to say if No Lynch has 10 votes, and Player X has 5 votes, and Player Y has 5 votes, no one will be lynched. If Player X has 10 votes, and No Lynch has 7 votes, and Player Y has 3 votes, goodbye player X

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 2:15 am
by Spacedaisy
Are you planning on advocating no lynches for the duration of the game?

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 2:38 am
by Tranq
nutella wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 12:28 am Re: speedchuck's btsc situation and the ensuing theories: I would believe that the person who targeted him is Psionic. He seemed to imply that he's not psionic, but I don't necessarily think he implied that he's not the same element as that person, because how would he even know that -- presumably he doesn't know the element of the person who targeted him, he was just given the btsc link -- so Golden's hunch could be true if they're both something other than Psionic. But I think it's more likely that the targeter was Psionic, partially because I know that when my element pairs with Psionic I gain a message sending ability so it would make sense for another Psionic combination to create btsc.
Would you get a message sending ability to anyone you want, or would the message go to the Psionic player?

speedchuck: do you have BTSC with a random player, or is it with the player responsible for giving you BTSC?

Re: Elemental Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 2:53 am
by Tranq
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed May 24, 2017 9:34 pm
sprityo wrote: Wed May 24, 2017 7:55 pm I'm satisfied with my element results, it actually was one of the three I asked about in my initial PM. At least from what I can tell, my element is beneficial to about anyone.
Nice try burny mcburnypants.
What does this mean?

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:18 am
by Golden
I won't be voting for nutella or dharmahelper or tranq or SVS or elohcin or speedchuck or glorfindel.

I feel like all of them have talked to me, or talked on the same topic as me.

The idea of three votes and two people dying feels very schrodinger's golden to me. Perhaps I'm not opposed to one being a no lynch. I haven't decided.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:54 am
by Quin
Cursed.

Voted.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:01 am
by Tranq
I am considering a DharmaHelper vote if he's serious about wanting No Lynch again.

There's also something to be said about DrWilgy's idea to lynch our doppelgangers. But, how would one even start with that?

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:03 am
by Golden
Why do you think lynching our doppelgangers would be a good idea? Is there some suggestion of a benefit to it?

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:04 am
by Glorfindel
Quin wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 4:54 am Cursed.

Voted.
You're holding your third vote there, my friend?

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:07 am
by Tranq
Golden wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 5:03 am Why do you think lynching our doppelgangers would be a good idea? Is there some suggestion of a benefit to it?
I have a feeling some might be beneficial, and some might kill the other or steal their power the moment they find each other.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:10 am
by Golden
These really are placeholder votes right now. I have no rhyme or reason for them.

Quin because he idoled me out in Survivor.
Sorsha because she's like a mafia McGyver
DrWilgy because he owes me a fiver (actually it's because he has a one word vocabulary)

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:10 am
by Tranq
Quin, do you think sprityo cursed you?

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:11 am
by Golden
Tranq wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 5:07 am
Golden wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 5:03 am Why do you think lynching our doppelgangers would be a good idea? Is there some suggestion of a benefit to it?
I have a feeling some might be beneficial, and some might kill the other or steal their power the moment they find each other.
Where do you get that feeling from?

I didn't even consider the idea of checking what would happen if I got my own element, and I guess I only have half the chance of getting it than getting any other element. I feel like maybe some people out there did have the idea of checking their own doppelganger's power, or maybe some people fused that way already, but if there's info floating, I'm in the dark.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:16 am
by Tranq
It's a feeling. Feels like something i could see happening in a BR/LC game.

If you're asking me if i checked my doppelganger or fused with mine, the answer is no.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:21 am
by Golden
Tranq wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 5:16 am It's a feeling. Feels like something i could see happening in a BR/LC game.

If you're asking me if i checked my doppelganger or fused with mine, the answer is no.
Fair enough.

I think the fire/water, air/earth interactions do demonstrate some level of logic (as much as such a thing can happen). Also, today's poll seems to be clearly caused by the darkness/spirit combination. So, we are slowly getting info. Hopefully, eventually, we get to see the outcome of a doppelganger reaction.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:29 am
by Tranq
Looks like you're right. The Darkness + Spirit combo caused this double lynch. The host post also indicates an Air + Earth tussle.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:34 am
by S~V~S
Golden wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 4:18 am I won't be voting for nutella or dharmahelper or tranq or SVS or elohcin or speedchuck or glorfindel.

I feel like all of them have talked to me, or talked on the same topic as me.

The idea of three votes and two people dying feels very schrodinger's golden to me. Perhaps I'm not opposed to one being a no lynch. I haven't decided.
I won't be voting for you, Tranq, Quin, DH, Glorfindel or Bass today. That is my Day One list and I have carried it over. People may get added to it, but no one will be removed.

I did not send in my own element with the three choices pregame, and did not mix with my own element last night.

How would we know who our doppelgangers were? And if we had an idea, how would we get others on board?

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:38 am
by Tranq
I have no idea :p

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 9:11 am
by sprityo
@Tranq, @Golden: how do you know those are the two elements that caused it? I'm assuming you're one of the other?

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 9:12 am
by sprityo
Or the other*

Re: Elemental Mafia - Night 1 End

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 9:15 am
by Tranq
sprityo, the host post pretty clearly spells it out:

Long Con wrote: Wed May 24, 2017 11:01 pm
Deadly Reactions

Mediocrates narrowed his eyes - what was Darkness up to? Shifting and slithering, he never fully trusted the black element, sometimes quite visible, but sometimes he wondered if he could see it at all. The Darkness seemed to be coalescing around Spirit, who watched, stoic and serene.

As the two elements mixed and blurred, dark violet tendrils snaked out across the table, striking the hearts of the other elements. Mediocrates could sense the level of wrath becoming slightly elevated, and he knew, on a primal level, that there would be more death today than there might have been. Perhaps not as much as yesterday - those poor flames, burned out so quickly!

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 9:16 am
by sprityo
Leaving my vote on Quin (because how dare you accuse me for no reason), and the I didn't want my other two to go to waste so temp on golden and tranq.

Linki-well this surely is what I get for not reading

Retracting that last statement before the linki

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 9:19 am
by Long Con
Everyone is required to cast three votes by the end of the day. Any votes not cast will be applied to the player who failed to cast them.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 9:28 am
by S~V~S
sprityo wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 9:16 am Leaving my vote on Quin (because how dare you accuse me for no reason), and the I didn't want my other two to go to waste so temp on golden and tranq.

Linki-well this surely is what I get for not reading

Retracting that last statement before the linki
Quin said he was cursed :suspish:

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 10:07 am
by Sorsha
Golden wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 5:10 am These really are placeholder votes right now. I have no rhyme or reason for them.

Quin because he idoled me out in Survivor.
Sorsha because she's like a mafia McGyver
DrWilgy because he owes me a fiver (actually it's because he has a one word vocabulary)
No reason for them yet you list a reason after each :p

I don't know what to do today. Had a good night last night :hugs:

Re: Elemental Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 10:15 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Tranq wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 2:53 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed May 24, 2017 9:34 pm
sprityo wrote: Wed May 24, 2017 7:55 pm I'm satisfied with my element results, it actually was one of the three I asked about in my initial PM. At least from what I can tell, my element is beneficial to about anyone.
Nice try burny mcburnypants.
What does this mean?
I was joking that Sprityo is saying "it's safe to target me" after killing a player who targeted him.

But I don't actually know/think Sprityo is fire or that he wouldn't be helpful to target.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 10:22 am
by speedchuck
Tranq wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 2:38 am
nutella wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 12:28 am Re: speedchuck's btsc situation and the ensuing theories: I would believe that the person who targeted him is Psionic. He seemed to imply that he's not psionic, but I don't necessarily think he implied that he's not the same element as that person, because how would he even know that -- presumably he doesn't know the element of the person who targeted him, he was just given the btsc link -- so Golden's hunch could be true if they're both something other than Psionic. But I think it's more likely that the targeter was Psionic, partially because I know that when my element pairs with Psionic I gain a message sending ability so it would make sense for another Psionic combination to create btsc.
Would you get a message sending ability to anyone you want, or would the message go to the Psionic player?

speedchuck: do you have BTSC with a random player, or is it with the player responsible for giving you BTSC?
According to the player, they got the ability from targeting, then decided to target me for whatever reason. My ability from last night was similar to that. I also targeted a player, got an ability, then targeted others.
We had a good little chat (and by little, I do mean LITTLE. I wasn't even around at the same time as them, thanks to my workplace blocking chatzy.)
We have 1 of either 100 or 55 (depending on whether x+y = y+x) combinations that could have caused it, and I'm not certain my own element was involved.

I can do no lynch as one of my votes, for personal reasons. There are a number of people I don't want dead, and this improves my odds of dealing with that.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 10:26 am
by sprityo
S~V~S wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 9:28 am
sprityo wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 9:16 am Leaving my vote on Quin (because how dare you accuse me for no reason), and the I didn't want my other two to go to waste so temp on golden and tranq.

Linki-well this surely is what I get for not reading

Retracting that last statement before the linki
Quin said he was cursed :suspish:
Yeah, he's assuming I cursed him? How rude

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 10:30 am
by speedchuck
Quin needs to put down a third vote.

Sprit, you're reeking of suspicion a little bit here.
Quin: "I am cursed." *votes for sprityo*
Sprityo: "How dare he accuse me? I didn't curse him!" *votes quin*

Methinks you protest too much. We don't know what Quin's curse really is, if it's making him vote differently. He may have no idea who cursed him, and he's voting you for other reasons.
Your jump in logic makes me suspicious, almost as if you know more of what's going on with the curse than we do. And I'm not a fan of curses.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 10:32 am
by Tranq
speedchuck wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 10:22 am
Tranq wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 2:38 am
nutella wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 12:28 am Re: speedchuck's btsc situation and the ensuing theories: I would believe that the person who targeted him is Psionic. He seemed to imply that he's not psionic, but I don't necessarily think he implied that he's not the same element as that person, because how would he even know that -- presumably he doesn't know the element of the person who targeted him, he was just given the btsc link -- so Golden's hunch could be true if they're both something other than Psionic. But I think it's more likely that the targeter was Psionic, partially because I know that when my element pairs with Psionic I gain a message sending ability so it would make sense for another Psionic combination to create btsc.
Would you get a message sending ability to anyone you want, or would the message go to the Psionic player?

speedchuck: do you have BTSC with a random player, or is it with the player responsible for giving you BTSC?
According to the player, they got the ability from targeting, then decided to target me for whatever reason. My ability from last night was similar to that. I also targeted a player, got an ability, then targeted others.
We had a good little chat (and by little, I do mean LITTLE. I wasn't even around at the same time as them, thanks to my workplace blocking chatzy.)
We have 1 of either 100 or 55 (depending on whether x+y = y+x) combinations that could have caused it, and I'm not certain my own element was involved.
Ok, that makes sense. Thanks for explaining :p

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 10:35 am
by DrWilgy
I will not be voting for friends who answered my color question. I have suspicion that Sriracha is my double though...

Sriracha, who is our triple if there is one?

Golden, you want me to repay a fivor by dying? Doesn't that defeat the purpose?

Tranq, wanna be friends? I'll take a bite out of double, like sscruff mcgruff takes a bite outta crime.

Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 10:39 am
by Tranq
Sure, i'll be your friend. I have no reason to vote for you :p

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 10:42 am
by DrWilgy
Woo!!! *Lights begin flashing and the music gets louder* Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 10:48 am
by Jackofhearts2005
What's a curse do?

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 10:48 am
by Tranq
DrWilgy wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 10:35 am I will not be voting for friends who answered my color question. I have suspicion that Sriracha is my double though...
Why do you think Sorsha is your double? Do bad things happen to you if combined with Darkness?

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 10:50 am
by Jackofhearts2005
I'll put down a vote for Quin cause he's voting for my friend Sprityo, a vote for Golden cause he likes a bunch of people but not me and a vote for no lynch cause I don't want to make too many enemies.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 11:11 am
by sprityo
speedchuck wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 10:30 am Quin needs to put down a third vote.

Sprit, you're reeking of suspicion a little bit here.
Quin: "I am cursed." *votes for sprityo*
Sprityo: "How dare he accuse me? I didn't curse him!" *votes quin*

Methinks you protest too much. We don't know what Quin's curse really is, if it's making him vote differently. He may have no idea who cursed him, and he's voting you for other reasons.
Your jump in logic makes me suspicious, almost as if you know more of what's going on with the curse than we do. And I'm not a fan of curses.
I had cursed him I would completely distance myself from it of course? Like I might not be the most crispy fry in the cup but I'm still decent enough to eat.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 11:12 am
by S~V~S
sprityo wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 10:26 am
S~V~S wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 9:28 am
sprityo wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 9:16 am Leaving my vote on Quin (because how dare you accuse me for no reason), and the I didn't want my other two to go to waste so temp on golden and tranq.

Linki-well this surely is what I get for not reading

Retracting that last statement before the linki
Quin said he was cursed :suspish:
Yeah, he's assuming I cursed him? How rude
No his implication is that he was FORCED to vote for you.
Quin wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 4:54 am Cursed.

Voted.
How could you read that differently?

Linki, yeah, agreed.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 11:13 am
by S~V~S
And I was agreeing with Speedchucks quote in linki.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 11:16 am
by sprityo
S~V~S wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 11:12 am
sprityo wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 10:26 am
S~V~S wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 9:28 am
sprityo wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 9:16 am Leaving my vote on Quin (because how dare you accuse me for no reason), and the I didn't want my other two to go to waste so temp on golden and tranq.

Linki-well this surely is what I get for not reading

Retracting that last statement before the linki
Quin said he was cursed :suspish:
Yeah, he's assuming I cursed him? How rude
No his implication is that he was FORCED to vote for you.
Quin wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 4:54 am Cursed.

Voted.
How could you read that differently?

Linki, yeah, agreed.
Oh I see. I hadn't considered it in that light. I was looking at it as "you cursed me."

In which case, I will move off you quin. Maybe I can get revenge on Speedchuck from Credithunt now since he wants to throw shade at me.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 11:16 am
by DharmaHelper
Spacedaisy wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 2:15 am Are you planning on advocating no lynches for the duration of the game?
Probably not. But in this instance I feel it most appropriate yes. Consider: In a normal lynch wherein you only have one vote, your vote will only piss off at most one person, and they might respond by voting for you in turn. And then of course, if they survive, they will use negative powers on you because you pose a threat to their game. Or, convince conspirators to vote for you as well, and lynch you.
'

Having 3 votes potentially triples that threat while guaranteeing that if you vote for 3 players, one of them will survive.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 11:18 am
by Bass_the_Clever
catching up now

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 11:20 am
by Bass_the_Clever
I wish I could see who voted for who.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 11:21 am
by Bass_the_Clever
Ok I voted for no lynch to see if that would let me see where the votes are at.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 11:21 am
by sprityo
Long Con wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 12:13 am
DharmaHelper wrote: Wed May 24, 2017 11:52 pm @HOSTS - If No Lynch wins the majority of votes, will no one die?
I think that the most obvious answer is already obvious enough. If you don't come up with the right answer on your own, then maybe you are the kind of guy who likes surprises!
Personally I was thinking on this. I'm interpreting it as even if no lynch gets majority, the other two are still lynched. Since no lynch is not a player.

That sounds right correct? Otherwise why give us three votes?

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 11:22 am
by Bass_the_Clever
I also agree with DH about voting it's all the third vote is doing is pissing someone off.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 11:23 am
by S~V~S
Wilgy, you are freaking me out with the doo doo doo thing, at first I thought you were cursed too.
DrWilgy wrote: Mon May 22, 2017 10:39 am Kay, I think I've figured out how I'm doing this.

Hello everyone, my name is DrWilgy and I am most definitely a doctor.

I'd like for 4 people to choose between red, blue, green, and white. No two should double up. First come first serve. Gogogo!!
Someone picked green before I could so I didn't pick one.

I was about to vote, but Sprit changed, so I am going to wait some more.

Linki, I was thinking top two choices, so if No Lynch is one of the top two, then there will be only one lynch.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Night 1 End

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 11:26 am
by sprityo
Long Con wrote: Wed May 24, 2017 11:01 pm
the top two voted players will be lynched.

Re: Elemental Mafia - Day 2

Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 11:32 am
by S~V~S
Well, then it can't hurt for us all to vote no lynch for the third option, and just pretend as if we have two votes to lynch two people and then just concentrate on that and make the third vote a moot point.

We have to make three votes, or else, but who is no lynch an option of we can't use it?