Re: Welcome to Night Vale Mafia [NIGHT 1]
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:56 pm
I voted for Shame, because it tickled me.
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
That's how I feel. I'm hesitant to say all the strong town reads cause of that thing with you me and Wigly in ME. That's what the two mafia game balance relies on.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:53 pm Since it was a close staggered lynch, Wilgy or Rico have clear potential w/w pairs.
I don't have any really prime suspects, but I have some pretty strong town reads on a few people.
Why?nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:47 pmToo late anyway, but I honestly don't know. I was kind of thinking about voting for Jack or Sprityo, but most likely wouldn't have affected the final decision in any case. I briefly considered joining the Made wagon but I ultimately agreed with you that he looked town and some of the votes on him look opportunistic/sketchy.
Who?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:53 pm I don't have any really prime suspects, but I have some pretty strong town reads on a few people.
Not sharing my strong town reads because I don't think that would help the town. See what Jack said above. If it comes up, I'll say something, but there isn't much of a reason to do it now. Especially before the next day begins.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:08 pmWho?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:53 pm I don't have any really prime suspects, but I have some pretty strong town reads on a few people.
Made voters, who was your second choice?
I'll probably expect them tomorrow unless I get a compelling reason, then.
Take two games for example:speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:19 pmI'll probably expect them tomorrow unless I get a compelling reason, then.
Still not used to the talking at night.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:24 pm
Probably vote Rico. I tend to stop at 8 donuts.
Don't feel much about Rico. He's maybe too quiet. Null/gtth bad.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:38 pm After watching Rico get put to pasture in Blue Velvet despite being the only civilian to identify the baddies, I'm willing to vote to protect him.
Made seems suspicious to me for going after an easy target.
Then again, other people seem to be seizing this as an excuse to make Made into an easy target.
However, this is a game with two mafias, so both occurrences could turn out to be legitimately baddie-driven.
No matter how you slice the cookie crumbles, I'm leaning towards voting Made.
Also not a fan of the sprityo vote
Day 1 sucks because there's so many players and not a whole lot of content to go on. It was the middle of the night my time and I was scrambling to put a vote on someone.Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:00 pmBoomslang wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:56 pmWhy so? I don't see you defending him in previous posts, other than an unexplainedspeedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:58 pm Vote Made
Unhelpful questions, dodging my questions, dodgy play in general. Not a lot of content, IMO. Worth a vote more than the current lynch targets, at any rate. Don't like it? Suggest your own targets and get something done. Peace.
linki: hahaha don't vote Jack plsin your gut read list. Jack even admits that his argument defending the lololol was "the dumbest argument I have ever made in a mafia game." I see a lot of proactive defense from him as well, asking to be pinged and whatnot.
Also, I don't think the Rico push has much merit. In a game with this many secrets, it's not unreasonable to have smiley-only posting for a bit. Admittedly, I've seen a lot done with that, and he's not making any effort to contribute within that limitation.
Neverwhere is interesting. Says she looks forward to playing with Made, then votes him for "making a joke of everything" as unhelpful play. Even though Rico's play is objectively less helpful and she makes jokes like "Puppies pee on everything." Could be projection.
Linki: Spirit, you're putting words in Jack's mouth. Asking you what you think about me could indicate suspicion of me; it could also be an attempt to pry info from you. And not admitting that possibility is deflection.![]()
Throwing some side-eye shade at this post.
Why would secrets be in play when we haven't had a night period yet?
Neverwhere responded to Made saying nice to meet you, why wouldn't she engage in those pleasantries. Why would it be suspicious that she would vote for someone she wanted to play with anyway? Shouldn't you vote for who you thnk is bad even if you do want to play with them?
I want to further explore both Jack and Neverwhere tomorrow. And I want to hear what you, Speedchuck, have to say about Jack particularly after "hahaha don't vote Jack pls."speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:08 pmWho?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:53 pm I don't have any really prime suspects, but I have some pretty strong town reads on a few people.
Made voters, who was your second choice?
Huh. I've never heard this before.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:27 pm We want the mafias to shoot each other. So don't go painting targets. In single mafia games, I'm of the opposite opinion.
I want to further explore both Jack and Neverwhere tomorrow. And I want to hear what you, Speedchuck, have to say about Jack particularly after "hahaha don't vote Jack pls."
Boring meta crap. I doubt you two are aligned, if that's any help. I'm more interested in what your read on Golden is. And I mean read, not quality-of-play analysis.
Hmm... Thank you for the explanation. This raises further questions for TSP.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:16 amlinki: w/w means wolf/wolf. Means that the two are both on the same scumteam.
Terrible term, btw, since few of our games are werewolf games. I usually use the term "knowingly aligned" or just "aligned" since town people don't have strong connections to each other. We could even say "scummates". Anything but w/w.
TSP, I'd like for you to explain. Why does a staggered lynch lead to having town reads or clears for both me and Rico? where does this perspective come from and do players having different vote values change this at all?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:05 pmThat's how I feel. I'm hesitant to say all the strong town reads cause of that thing with you me and Wigly in ME. That's what the two mafia game balance relies on.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:53 pm Since it was a close staggered lynch, Wilgy or Rico have clear potential w/w pairs.
I don't have any really prime suspects, but I have some pretty strong town reads on a few people.
Bad, I thought I had made that clear. Unless you meant something else. What are you referring to in regards to quality-of-play? I don't believe that I have spoken in regards to Golden's quality of play, rather is style of play and where his thoughts are.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:31 amBoring meta crap. I doubt you two are aligned, if that's any help. I'm more interested in what your read on Golden is. And I mean read, not quality-of-play analysis.
Neverwhere wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:24 am
If Ricochet was scum I don't get why they would be drawing attention to themselves this early in the game. I am curious as to why they were still posting in smilies after the deadline.
Hey Rico,Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:04 amNeverwhere wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:24 am
If Ricochet was scum I don't get why they would be drawing attention to themselves this early in the game. I am curious as to why they were still posting in smilies after the deadline.
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DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:11 amHey Rico,Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:04 amNeverwhere wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:24 am
If Ricochet was scum I don't get why they would be drawing attention to themselves this early in the game. I am curious as to why they were still posting in smilies after the deadline.
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Golden.
Epi.
TSP.
DF.
Timmer.
Stuff like "You're being defensive because I usually suspect you"DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:02 amBad, I thought I had made that clear. Unless you meant something else. What are you referring to in regards to quality-of-play? I don't believe that I have spoken in regards to Golden's quality of play, rather is style of play and where his thoughts are.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:31 amBoring meta crap. I doubt you two are aligned, if that's any help. I'm more interested in what your read on Golden is. And I mean read, not quality-of-play analysis.
You refer to meta as boring crap, why? Also along this thought, is quality-of-play not a factor in forming a read?
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:17 am
linki: pls rico, steal my smiley rainbow and make some content. I want to know what you think of those people too
Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:27 amspeedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:17 am
linki: pls rico, steal my smiley rainbow and make some content. I want to know what you think of those people too![]()
I use w/w. I don't know what questions that raises.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:02 amHmm... Thank you for the explanation. This raises further questions for TSP.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:16 amlinki: w/w means wolf/wolf. Means that the two are both on the same scumteam.
Terrible term, btw, since few of our games are werewolf games. I usually use the term "knowingly aligned" or just "aligned" since town people don't have strong connections to each other. We could even say "scummates". Anything but w/w.
I don't have particularly town reads on you or Rico, so it doesn't lead to me that. What I meant is that if you or Rico flip Maf, we have some clear leads.TSP, I'd like for you to explain. Why does a staggered lynch lead to having town reads or clears for both me and Rico? where does this perspective come from and do players having different vote values change this at all?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:05 pmThat's how I feel. I'm hesitant to say all the strong town reads cause of that thing with you me and Wigly in ME. That's what the two mafia game balance relies on.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:53 pm Since it was a close staggered lynch, Wilgy or Rico have clear potential w/w pairs.
I don't have any really prime suspects, but I have some pretty strong town reads on a few people.
"You're being defensive because I usually suspect you"speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:17 amStuff like "You're being defensive because I usually suspect you"DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:02 amBad, I thought I had made that clear. Unless you meant something else. What are you referring to in regards to quality-of-play? I don't believe that I have spoken in regards to Golden's quality of play, rather is style of play and where his thoughts are.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:31 amBoring meta crap. I doubt you two are aligned, if that's any help. I'm more interested in what your read on Golden is. And I mean read, not quality-of-play analysis.
You refer to meta as boring crap, why? Also along this thought, is quality-of-play not a factor in forming a read?
"Defensive against what?"
"What reason do you have for posting this?"
"You are satisfied for the wrong reasons"
None of this is about alignment, so far as I can tell. Just bickering. Some of it about meta. And meta is boring because A. I'm new here and don't know anyone's meta good enough to speak on it, and B. Talking about past games doesn't speak to alignment.
I'm interested in what you think about Golden because you are familiar with them. But talking about past experience and about the way Golden is playing doesn't say anything about your alignment, and it's full of arguments I wouldn't be able to follow.
And no, quality-of-play is not a factor in forming a read, unless it's a tell for that person.
"we will have leads when someone flips mafia"TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:40 amI don't have particularly town reads on you or Rico, so it doesn't lead to me that. What I meant is that if you or Rico flip Maf, we have some clear leads.
"we will have leads when someone flips mafia"TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:40 amI don't have particularly town reads on you or Rico, so it doesn't lead to me that. What I meant is that if you or Rico flip Maf, we have some clear leads.
I don't disagree with any of this. Couple odd turns of phrase, here. Implying I'm going "refuse" do do anything but "rely" on mechanics.Golden wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:30 am @Jack - you can normally rely on some natural nightkill attrition in multi-scum games, but you can't refuse to help each other solve the game to the extent it undermines our ability to catch baddies. I've been part of games where, after a couple of baddies down, the teams join into a single team and you never hear about it. You can't fully rely on mechanics.
Besides, just because we agree someone is town doesn't mean they are. We might just as well be pushing the mafia into killing one of the opposite mafia by accident.
T/T.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:13 am Someone explain w/w to me.
@Neverwhere, that doesn't tackle the comparison Boomslang made between Made and Rico. There were also plenty of people not contributing through outright non-contribution (Timmer, Dom). So why Made, when Made had actual content to sort through?
If 3 people would be so kind. Please let me know your thoughts regarding my exchanges with Golden.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:49 pm How about a halfbow?
Green people
Yellow people
Orange people
Lorab
Tony
Golden
Nutella
Dom
DF
Boomerjack
Red people
Sprityo
Ignoring Boom's post, I ask Sprityo what he thinks of Boom. Sprityo defends Boom, saying I'm being paranoid, like in ME.Boomslang wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:24 pm Howdy, everybody! Been browsing and perusing leisurely. Things that jump out:
Agreed with speedchuck's ponder. Driving discussion to the meta always seems like a cop-out for content generation.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:11 am![]()
Made, what is the purpose/meaning/point/idea/mission of this question?
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:09 pm Most inclined to vote Sprityo for self preservation lolololol or Epi for picking on someone he may view as weak.Why that many "ol" additions the first time? Possible tell that you were thinking too hard about that post, and baddies must generate content whole-cloth. Could be an indication of teamwork, again playing off meta.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:14 pm @INH lol that's me when I'm about to win as a baddie. "Throw me the idol."
Because I'm a quiet, thoughtful individual with Night Vale's best interests at heart.
Also relevantsprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:38 pmBoomslang wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:24 pm Howdy, everybody! Been browsing and perusing leisurely. Things that jump out:
Agreed with speedchuck's ponder. Driving discussion to the meta always seems like a cop-out for content generation. This sounds finespeedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:11 am![]()
Made, what is the purpose/meaning/point/idea/mission of this question?
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:09 pm Most inclined to vote Sprityo for self preservation lolololol or Epi for picking on someone he may view as weak.Why that many "ol" additions the first time? Possible tell that you were thinking too hard about that post, and baddies must generate content whole-cloth. Could be an indication of teamwork, again playing off meta. Reachie Reach and the Extended arm. but this is more than likely bothering jack cause boomslang only has three posts. IMO nothing to worry about, because nothing that sticks out to me. youre being paranoid again jackJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:14 pm @INH lol that's me when I'm about to win as a baddie. "Throw me the idol."
Boomslang wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 9:56 pmWhy so? I don't see you defending him in previous posts, other than an unexplainedspeedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:58 pm Vote Made
Unhelpful questions, dodging my questions, dodgy play in general. Not a lot of content, IMO. Worth a vote more than the current lynch targets, at any rate. Don't like it? Suggest your own targets and get something done. Peace.
linki: hahaha don't vote Jack plsin your gut read list. Jack even admits that his argument defending the lololol was "the dumbest argument I have ever made in a mafia game." I see a lot of proactive defense from him as well, asking to be pinged and whatnot.
Also, I don't think the Rico push has much merit. In a game with this many secrets, it's not unreasonable to have smiley-only posting for a bit. Admittedly, I've seen a lot done with that, and he's not making any effort to contribute within that limitation.
Neverwhere is interesting. Says she looks forward to playing with Made, then votes him for "making a joke of everything" as unhelpful play. Even though Rico's play is objectively less helpful and she makes jokes like "Puppies pee on everything." Could be projection.
Linki: Spirit, you're putting words in Jack's mouth. Asking you what you think about me could indicate suspicion of me; it could also be an attempt to pry info from you. And not admitting that possibility is deflection.