Re: Community Mafia [DAY 1]
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:46 am
Because his ass is fake
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
i'll take a look, thank you.colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:54 am And re: me being bad, I was maf in World Asunder (where I didn't catch suspicion until the game exploded, but there were two mafias) and a speed game wherein I was lynched D1 and my partner (speedchuck, natch) was quickly lynched D2. I don't think I've been maf in any other game here, although I was also a hostile indy in the Socky game.
whose ass is faker, mine or his?
i don't really care if you're not convinced. i've already said why i think you're different and it has nothing to do with post activity, so excuse me for having a read on you, but i can't give you all the civ-cred when i'm not feeling it. i cited specific examples of exchanges between us or others that i feel are not usual jay-reactions. i am basing my read off those alone and not your "post activity" or even your enthusiasm to the game. you have double my posts (and almost triple and quadruple anyone else's). there's nothing to complain about there.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:57 am dunya, I’m not convinced you’re actually suspicious of me. At a certain point the continued vague assertions that I am “off” become meaningless and serve only to nudge the less-than-great thread climate for me.
why?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:54 am Does this player presently cause any secretions in my civilian glands?
MacDougall - yes
I could see an effort toward POE and thought it looked authentic.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:27 pmwhy?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:54 am Does this player presently cause any secretions in my civilian glands?
MacDougall - yes
why would i be making a "fake read"? you haven't given any feedback on me in this game beyond putting me in a rainbow and voting for me for 2 hours. i assume you're accusing me of being mafia now, since civilians don't make fake reads.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:48 pmI wasn’t correcting your spelling. I was accusing you of a fake read.![]()
are you referring to this?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:51 pmI could see an effort toward POE and thought it looked authentic.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:27 pmwhy?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:54 am Does this player presently cause any secretions in my civilian glands?
MacDougall - yes
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:30 pm ColinIsCool - Is currently on Earth 53
colonialbob - is Mafia
DFaraday - is suspicious
Dragon D. Luffy - is town
dunya - is rusty
Epignosis - is town
JaggedJimmyJay - is t...own
novaselinenever - is with Colin on Earth 53
Quin - is currently wrestling crocs in the outback
reywas - is Mafia
sabie12 - is suspicious
If I was voting to lynch someone right now it'd be ColonialBob.
Civilians certainly do make fake reads, but I don't know that you're the type. So yes it's bad.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:52 pmwhy would i be making a "fake read"? you haven't given any feedback on me in this game beyond putting me in a rainbow and voting for me for 2 hours. i assume you're accusing me of being mafia now, since civilians don't make fake reads.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:48 pmI wasn’t correcting your spelling. I was accusing you of a fake read.![]()
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:55 pm are you referring to this?
That's a component of it. He'd been working out civilian reads for much of the early portion of the game.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:30 pm ColinIsCool - Is currently on Earth 53
colonialbob - is Mafia
DFaraday - is suspicious
Dragon D. Luffy - is town
dunya - is rusty
Epignosis - is town
JaggedJimmyJay - is t...own
novaselinenever - is with Colin on Earth 53
Quin - is currently wrestling crocs in the outback
reywas - is Mafia
sabie12 - is suspicious
If I was voting to lynch someone right now it'd be ColonialBob.
This post looks horrendously fake though, and I would vote for Mac on that basis alone.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:26 pmOh wait you do have a bad man read on me.
I have civ reads on DDL and Jay. Why are you and I on such different pages here?
Also why did you put yourself in your rainbow, that is such a ping to me.
you're avoiding what i'm after. let me ask you point blank: do you think i'm mafia, jay?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:20 pmCivilians certainly do make fake reads, but I don't know that you're the type. So yes it's bad.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:52 pmwhy would i be making a "fake read"? you haven't given any feedback on me in this game beyond putting me in a rainbow and voting for me for 2 hours. i assume you're accusing me of being mafia now, since civilians don't make fake reads.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:48 pmI wasn’t correcting your spelling. I was accusing you of a fake read.![]()
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:27 pmThis post looks horrendously fake though, and I would vote for Mac on that basis alone.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:26 pmOh wait you do have a bad man read on me.
I have civ reads on DDL and Jay. Why are you and I on such different pages here?
Also why did you put yourself in your rainbow, that is such a ping to me.
honestly, this is mostly gut for me. i am not pinged by him so far. i feel like his roleplay has been in character with what i expect of epi on day0/day1. i loved the pairing of me and you being bad together suggestion. i love how he teased you about me being bad, and waiting to see my reaction. this playful side of him and exchange with you specifically took me back to elaine/jerry. i know epi would complain about long walls of mechanical game texts on day 0 and he did it in character, in a sincere way that is agreeable with me, as opposed to how macdougall or ddl approached it imo.
indeed. only if he's w/w with macJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:46 pm I am not sure a mafia Colin arrives late to the game and decides "I guess I'll get started by ratting the nests of both dunya and MacDougall".
A lot of great movies have a sacrificial lamb to motivate the survivors to band together and win the day. If I have to I'm fine with being the Coulson to your Avengers, the Apollo Creed to your Rocky, the Sean Connery in the Untouchables to your everyone else in the Untouchables. At the very least it would expose the people piling on to the vague and weak bandwagon forming around me.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:49 am i like DF's contributions. his sentiments echo my own, apart from his Epi suspicions. he's only made 5 posts; i don't like the 3 votes on him right now. screams scapegoat to me.
the only thing i wasn't too hot on is the transition between focusing on epi and being able to read epi to voting for mac, someone whose intentions he claims are harder for him to get a feel on. but even so, he gave good rationale for voting for mac unlike some other people in the thread tbh. i've never played with him before, i'd like to see more of him and see what he can offer. i won't be voting for him today.
I didn't say I don't want you to address my points. As it is, you're not really addressing anyone's points.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:21 pmYou would rather me address Dunya's points, who is currently not scum reading me, as opposed to yours who is voting for me. Why would that be?DFaraday wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:06 pmSo do you have anything to say that actually addresses Dunya's points?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:25 amDFaraday wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:15 amIn Mac's case it did come across as trying to discourage JJJ's analysis by making his confusion with JJJ's methods highly visible, but his motive for doing so is harder for me to get a read on than Epi's posts. However I was just going over Mac's posts and this is suspect to me.Quin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:56 amI thought that Epi was doing it as a way to gauge 3J's alignment. No idea about Mac though.DFaraday wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:45 amSorry for being at work?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:41 am
I agree with his general sentiment that an isolated "call out" of my mechanics post is a suspicious thing. I direct that at DDL primarily.
DF directed it at nobody and didn't answer me when I asked him to gimme names, so that's bad. I feel no compulsion to call him a civilian.![]()
I was referring to Epi and Mac, but more so Epi since Mac didn't actually imply that the charting meant that JJJ was bad. These posts from Epi show him suggesting that JJJ's efforts were a Mafia smokescreen:
If Epi can offer evidence that JJJ primarily does this sort of analysis as a baddie but not as a civ I'll reconsider, but as it is I don't buy his reasoning here.
He doesn't deny or even defend himself here, and actually says that Dunya has a logical case. But his reason for suspecting her is that she normally would put together a more complex case? To me this comes across as Mac trying to deflect rather than engage with Dunya. I'll likely be voting Mac or Epi today.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:18 pmThis is all very basic analysis from someone with an intuition based game. You're bad because you picked the most logical case to put together that you could see, when ordinarily you are capable of deeper analysis than this.dunya wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:28 am no one asked me, but ima go ahead and tell you why i think mac is mafia.
he comes in here to demotivate jjj. he has an issue with jjj taking the leader role. he's vocalizing it to make others aware of these issues he has with jjj. he is trying to renounce jjj's place in the thread. ok...
but then nah, he doesn't wanna take jjj's place after all. he's happy being led. he's happy jjj being himself.
there was no purpose for the former or the latter. when someone comes in strong and then contradicts everything said, it is always a plot to weaken or cause conflict or shake trust in a person. macdougall here was initially trying to take civ jjj off course, and whether he continued or not, the posts are there. they have already garnered agreement from at least 2 other people. there is purpose behind every post, especially one that criticizes another player's playing style, and especially when macdougall is no newbie to jjj or his playstyle. it gets old ya know. the pocketing approach may have worked in ass-class, but it wouldn't work in any game i'm in.![]()
[VOTE: MACDOUGALL] aubergine
Perhaps it is because you would rather incite violence between Dunya and I than get your own hands burned by the bright flame of MacScrewgall? Hmmm?
Paragraph 1 reminds me why I think you're teammates with DF.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:24 am hope DF can come and talk to us some more. looks like the gang is ganging up on you and it's lame you're not here to defend yourself.
i didn't like coliniscool's contrib. i don't actually believe colin thinks i'm the most suspicious person after reading the thread. i'll give him a pass for now since he's sick, but that shit don't slide by for The Syndicate's Best New Member.
uninspired after reading sabie's three posts up there, was hoping for more. why do you find DDL "suspicious" for example?
unimpressed with reywaS' contribs. i thought he was a more involved player.. could this be his low-activity scum performance?
still feel shit about DDL. still feel best about Epignosis. feeling better about cbob (i have never seen a scum cbob though. has this happened..?)
still feel something is off with JJJ.
gut tells me there's scum between DDL, Mac, sabie/reywaS and JJJ.
that's my 4-player pool for today.
i'll get to quin in a bit.
"I need to defend DF but let's post a beef so that I don't look too suspicious for it".dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:49 am i like DF's contributions. his sentiments echo my own, apart from his Epi suspicions. he's only made 5 posts; i don't like the 3 votes on him right now. screams scapegoat to me.
the only thing i wasn't too hot on is the transition between focusing on epi and being able to read epi to voting for mac, someone whose intentions he claims are harder for him to get a feel on. but even so, he gave good rationale for voting for mac unlike some other people in the thread tbh. i've never played with him before, i'd like to see more of him and see what he can offer. i won't be voting for him today.
not really, i feel like both of them are almost bordering on lurking behavior. i don't wanna overstep about sabie, since she seems to have personal issues i guess (funeral and whatnot), but i expect more activity from both of them than i got. sabie when she is on is saying how difficult it is to make reads, or that she will make reads, or or. she was active and chose to stay in character without giving us much in content really and it is different from her previous 3 games that i've seen. in contrast, in this specific game, epi gave us character and content. reywas coming on to say he will be more active, and not being active... i felt both of them are exhibiting similar behavior in that regard, and it makes me wary of them both.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:56 pm To be fair, dunya sticking "sabie/reywaS" in that goofy pairing to complete a "4" player pool is whacke.
Your slash mark indicates a "one or the other" dynamic. If it isn't, then that means your four-player POE was a five-player POE. Your explanation here doesn't tell me why you stuck them together.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:13 pmnot really, i feel like both of them are almost bordering on lurking behavior. i don't wanna overstep about sabie, since she seems to have personal issues i guess (funeral and whatnot), but i expect more activity from both of them than i got. sabie when she is on is saying how difficult it is to make reads, or that she will make reads, or or. she was active and chose to stay in character without giving us much in content really and it is different from her previous 3 games that i've seen. in contrast, in this specific game, epi gave us character and content. reywas coming on to say he will be more active, and not being active... i felt both of them are exhibiting similar behavior in that regard, and it makes me wary of them both.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:56 pm To be fair, dunya sticking "sabie/reywaS" in that goofy pairing to complete a "4" player pool is whacke.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:12 pm Conditioning Colin's status as best new player to not reading dunya as bad is a disgusting piece of manipulation.
It's not civilian thought proccess.
yes, one or the other. i don't think a mafia team of 2 (i think sloonei would have opted for a s/a in this setup, the community theme begs for it) would both decide to lurk. i feel like if there's mafia in there it's not gonna both. and i just said they're both exhibiting lurking behavior.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:15 pmYour slash mark indicates a "one or the other" dynamic. If it isn't, then that means your four-player POE was a five-player POE. Your explanation here doesn't tell me why you stuck them together.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:13 pmnot really, i feel like both of them are almost bordering on lurking behavior. i don't wanna overstep about sabie, since she seems to have personal issues i guess (funeral and whatnot), but i expect more activity from both of them than i got. sabie when she is on is saying how difficult it is to make reads, or that she will make reads, or or. she was active and chose to stay in character without giving us much in content really and it is different from her previous 3 games that i've seen. in contrast, in this specific game, epi gave us character and content. reywas coming on to say he will be more active, and not being active... i felt both of them are exhibiting similar behavior in that regard, and it makes me wary of them both.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:56 pm To be fair, dunya sticking "sabie/reywaS" in that goofy pairing to complete a "4" player pool is whacke.
Why not?dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:15 pmDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:12 pm Conditioning Colin's status as best new player to not reading dunya as bad is a disgusting piece of manipulation.
It's not civilian thought proccess.
that's not what i did. i said i find impossible to believe colin would read the thread and decide that first post i made towards jay as the most supicious and vote-worthy thing in the game.
get yer facts straight, buster and don't misrepresent someone who is online and ready to call you out on that bs.![]()
because the thread progressed a lot from there, including that initial suspicion, my reads and expansions.