The Syndicate

Snow Dog wrote:
I am sorry you feel that way. And in a normal mafia game with a normal mafia team to combat I doubt I would behave so extremely. But the nature of this game, I though at least, allowed for it.

Or maybe I'm just playing with you still and I'm unlynchable.

No worries, I'm not upset or harbor any ill will or anything like that. Just let it be known that any player who self-votes from Day 3 onward or refuses to play the game WILL likely be getting my vote.

I get that. Yes, the role setup and win conditions here are different. But I'm just going based off of what makes the most sense for the "civvies" in this game to win because I believe myself to fall under that category.

Given Stephen King is gone and Jack is gone (and he presented some complications) and the game hasn't ended, it seems logical to me that the Gradies, Bartender, and maybe even the unlynchable role need to go. I think that seems sensible, don't you?

Kate wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:
One thing I do find notable is that S~V~S and Kate haven't said a word to each other about each other so far this game. What that means I have no idea, but it is kind of interesting. They both can read each other insanely well. I'm sure I could think of other such similar things, but I wouldn't say anything immediately comes to mind as SUSPICIOUS or notable in that sort of way. Just observations that don't really tell much currently. But we still have some more time.

I think she said she liked my avatar

Seriously though, how do you read someone in this game? Isn't it all kind of dumb luck? I don't really have an opinion on her because I can't tell her affiliation because from the way the game is explained she doesn't really have one, nor does anyone else. Here's my official read: I think she's a player with a role. I haven't seen any indication that she has a partner, and if she does, its not me. I am not a Grady twin. I don't want to be lynched.

Lol, you're right, she did say that!

And yeah, you're spot on here. I'm having a really hard time forming opinions on players this game, and at first I thought it was because I'm having a sucky game, but it seems to partially be a side-effect of the role setup.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:
I am sorry you feel that way. And in a normal mafia game with a normal mafia team to combat I doubt I would behave so extremely. But the nature of this game, I though at least, allowed for it.

Or maybe I'm just playing with you still and I'm unlynchable.

No worries, I'm not upset or harbor any ill will or anything like that. Just let it be known that any player who self-votes from Day 3 onward or refuses to play the game WILL likely be getting my vote.

I get that. Yes, the role setup and win conditions here are different. But I'm just going based off of what makes the most sense for the "civvies" in this game to win because I believe myself to fall under that category.

Given Stephen King is gone and Jack is gone (and he presented some complications) and the game hasn't ended, it seems logical to me that the Gradies, Bartender, and maybe even the unlynchable role need to go. I think that seems sensible, don't you?

I think you're right about who needs to go, but how do you suppose we kill an unlynchable role when (presumably) the only NK power in the game is gone? Serious question btw.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:
I am sorry you feel that way. And in a normal mafia game with a normal mafia team to combat I doubt I would behave so extremely. But the nature of this game, I though at least, allowed for it.

Or maybe I'm just playing with you still and I'm unlynchable.

No worries, I'm not upset or harbor any ill will or anything like that. Just let it be known that any player who self-votes from Day 3 onward or refuses to play the game WILL likely be getting my vote.

I get that. Yes, the role setup and win conditions here are different. But I'm just going based off of what makes the most sense for the "civvies" in this game to win because I believe myself to fall under that category.

Given Stephen King is gone and Jack is gone (and he presented some complications) and the game hasn't ended, it seems logical to me that the Gradies, Bartender, and maybe even the unlynchable role need to go. I think that seems sensible, don't you?

I am absolutely fine with that. It suits my game. No way we can get rid of the unlynchable role though unless there is a secret NK.

Bullzeye wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:
I am sorry you feel that way. And in a normal mafia game with a normal mafia team to combat I doubt I would behave so extremely. But the nature of this game, I though at least, allowed for it.

Or maybe I'm just playing with you still and I'm unlynchable.

No worries, I'm not upset or harbor any ill will or anything like that. Just let it be known that any player who self-votes from Day 3 onward or refuses to play the game WILL likely be getting my vote.

I get that. Yes, the role setup and win conditions here are different. But I'm just going based off of what makes the most sense for the "civvies" in this game to win because I believe myself to fall under that category.

Given Stephen King is gone and Jack is gone (and he presented some complications) and the game hasn't ended, it seems logical to me that the Gradies, Bartender, and maybe even the unlynchable role need to go. I think that seems sensible, don't you?

I think you're right about who needs to go, but how do you suppose we kill an unlynchable role when (presumably) the only NK power in the game is gone? Serious question btw.

Very good question that unfortunately I am unsure of. That scares me, honestly.

It does make me wonder if that role is a true independent/neutral though because that seems to make more sense, given that the only way to kill it would be for King to kill it.

Just a thought - maybe we don't need to kill the hotel. Maybe there's a way we can render it unable to win the game and make it essentially useless.

MovingPictures07 wrote: Given Stephen King is gone and Jack is gone (and he presented some complications) and the game hasn't ended, it seems logical to me that the Gradies, Bartender, and maybe even the unlynchable role need to go. I think that seems sensible, don't you?

The game ends after 6 days, not when 'the baddies' are dead. Apparently our characters are going to continue killing each other until then just 'cause.

Bullzeye wrote:Just a thought - maybe we don't need to kill the hotel. Maybe there's a way we can render it unable to win the game and make it essentially useless.

Interesting. Certainly possible. No idea what the hell its win conditions would be though.

Linki with Nev: True, I kind of forgot about that time limit. But wouldn't you think if all living players had compatible win conditions, they would all win automatically? Why just sit around and have everyone kill each other off?

Gah I am trying to catch up inthe spot of aservice I have right now, but theres too much to read. Back this afternoon.

Voted left cause its logical.

Llama i have to tell you all about the camp i am at in the adirondacks. It feels so appropriate for this game. One phone no wireless, signal if you stand at the right corner if th e deck....

MovingPictures07 wrote: Linki with Nev: True, I kind of forgot about that time limit. But wouldn't you think if all living players had compatible win conditions, they would all win automatically? Why just sit around and have everyone kill each other off?

If there are six people in, and they all (for example) needed a different three to survive to the end, then their conditions are compatible, but cannot all be satisfied. You'd need to run the game to the end to see who made it.

Not to mention that I suspect there are some very different wincons around - the hotel for example probably does not have a fun and happy victory.

It took a while, but eventually everyone managed to find their way out of the hedge maze. Cold and tired, they retired back into the hotel. There was something disconcerting about the place, however, and although it was eerily quiet, some of the guests thought they saw flashes of movement, coming from abandoned rooms, out of the corners of their eyes.

"Well, now what?" asked MovingPictures. "We've got the killer, but we're still trapped up here until they can clear the roads."

"How do you know that Dex was really the killer?" asked Hedgeowl suspiciously. "Or that he was the only one?"

"Why would you assume that?" countered Bullzeye. "Do you know something you're not telling?"

And just like that, the squabbling began again. The hotel was making people more and more paranoid and distrustful as time went on.

Snow Dog once again stood up as the voice of pacifism, but not all were satisfied with this sort of talk.

"That's exactly the kind of false sense of security you would want us to feel if you were bad," exclaimed SVS, and the bickering continued.

No one has died. It is now day three. You have 24 hours to lynch someone. You are free to abstain from the poll if you believe that will best satisfy your goals, but remember that those who do not vote will not be able to use their night powers. There were missing PMs.

Ha! Take that MP!

It's me! I'm the killer! I'm going CRAZY AND ILL KILL YOU ALL!
Especially YOU, person who is currently reading this!

(voted myself)

I think being checked for insanity makes the victim insane.

Can you explain what makes you think that Snow?

Bullzeye wrote:Can you explain what makes you think that Snow?

Well...it's a theory. I am going to check the roles again.

Good question, curious about that answer myself.

Unless the hotel is doing it. That makes sense doesn't it? Haunted Hotel.

Snow Dog wrote:Unless the hotel is doing it. That makes sense doesn't it? Haunted Hotel.

That was my assumption, that the hotel is making people mad and perhaps its win condition is tied to how many people it can make mad or something.

Just to be clear, nothing made crazy except my desire for victory :-)

Nevinera wrote:Just to be clear, nothing made crazy except my desire for victory :-)

And you apparently win by being lynched and removed from the game?

Or maybe I am bluffing you, and trying to keep you from killing me by making you think I want it!

Yay for no death! Lol at Nev and his apparent insanity.

Nevinera wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote: Linki with Nev: True, I kind of forgot about that time limit. But wouldn't you think if all living players had compatible win conditions, they would all win automatically? Why just sit around and have everyone kill each other off?

If there are six people in, and they all (for example) needed a different three to survive to the end, then their conditions are compatible, but cannot all be satisfied. You'd need to run the game to the end to see who made it.

Not to mention that I suspect there are some very different wincons around - the hotel for example probably does not have a fun and happy victory.

Makes sense.

Snow Dog wrote:Ha! Take that MP!

Take what? Lol.

Take this!

thellama73 wrote:. You are free to abstain from the poll if you believe that will best satisfy your goals, but remember that those who do not vote will not be able to use their night powers. .[/size][/color]

Snow Dog wrote:Take this!

thellama73 wrote:. You are free to abstain from the poll if you believe that will best satisfy your goals, but remember that those who do not vote will not be able to use their night powers. .[/size][/color]

Of course, MP is also free to vote for you to be lynched if he doesn't like that you refuse to vote...

thellama73 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Take this!

thellama73 wrote:. You are free to abstain from the poll if you believe that will best satisfy your goals, but remember that those who do not vote will not be able to use their night powers. .[/size][/color]

Of course, MP is also free to vote for you to be lynched if he doesn't like that you refuse to vote...

Precisely this!

That being said, not sure I'll be voting for you, Snowie. Unfortunately, I'll have to vote tonight again; I'm leaving tonight for Lima and not even sure when I will have internet tomorrow. (I obviously will need to at some point for Bioshock, but unsure when I'll get it)

thellama73 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Take this!

thellama73 wrote:. You are free to abstain from the poll if you believe that will best satisfy your goals, but remember that those who do not vote will not be able to use their night powers. .[/size][/color]

Of course, MP is also free to vote for you to be lynched if he doesn't like that you refuse to vote...

But of course mein host. But I like that you stated it.

Snow Dog wrote:

S~V~S wrote:MP, now i am seeing your point, I am not a Grady Twin, or any kind of Grady. I do agree they are baddies, or most likely to be potentially baddies.

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As I said above. there are no baddies this game. We all seem to have our own win conditions.

I disagree; it would not be a Mafia game were there not potential enemies, people that could kill us. Stephen King could kill us, but I doubt he was the only one. Having seen this movie several jillion times, and worn out the book twice, i would guess that Jack could have gone bad, and I would also guess that the gradys could go bad. Possibly the bartender. But what would be the point of lynching anyone if there are no baddies?

I waffle on the hotel. But I am pretty sure about the Gradys.

Your theory earlier was interesting; you say you think that the checker makes people insane. Apparently you made a role hint yesterday that got some play, but I did not catch it, I seldom do, plus I try to NOT look for them, since they are not my favorite thing in the world. I will have to go look for it, i guess. Becasue I am very much thinking I see something else, and it is not good, to my eye.

Nevin says he has to get lynched, and he was saying that yesterday as well. *sigh*

S~V~S wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

S~V~S wrote:MP, now i am seeing your point, I am not a Grady Twin, or any kind of Grady. I do agree they are baddies, or most likely to be potentially baddies.

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As I said above. there are no baddies this game. We all seem to have our own win conditions.

I disagree; it would not be a Mafia game were there not potential enemies, people that could kill us. Stephen King could kill us, but I doubt he was the only one. Having seen this movie several jillion times, and worn out the book twice, i would guess that Jack could have gone bad, and I would also guess that the gradys could go bad. Possibly the bartender. But what would be the point of lynching anyone if there are no baddies?

I waffle on the hotel. But I am pretty sure about the Gradys.

Your theory earlier was interesting; you say you think that the checker makes people insane. Apparently you made a role hint yesterday that got some play, but I did not catch it, I seldom do, plus I try to NOT look for them, since they are not my favorite thing in the world. I will have to go look for it, i guess. Becasue I am very much thinking I see something else, and it is not good, to my eye.

Nevin says he has to get lynched, and he was saying that yesterday as well. *sigh*

It wasn't exactly a role hint. He said something that I think revealed his role to me if he's telling the truth. But if he is telling the truth then we want him alive.

I don't know what you thought he said but what I thought he said was not so benign...

I'm not sure, but it sounds like you're talking about me? I have made no role hints of any kind, though I suppose my general strategy might give away some aspects of my won condition :-)

Nevinera wrote:I'm not sure, but it sounds like you're talking about me? I have made no role hints of any kind, though I suppose my general strategy might give away some aspects of my won condition :-)

We're talking about Snow. Something he said has made me trust him, and I'm just throwing that out there because I don't want him to get lynched in case I'm right about who I think he is (and I'm quite sure I am).

I haven't seen anything that Snow said that tipped me off.

Then again, I am absolutely oblivious when it comes to role hints, time and time again (see: rey's game for the most recent example).

I'm usually oblivious to hints as well. Given I know only the general gist of things about The Shining I'd be hopeless if someone made a hint based on what a character does or anything like that, but if anyone trusts me they should believe me when I say Snow is ok. For now at least.

Bullzeye wrote:I'm usually oblivious to hints as well. Given I know only the general gist of things about The Shining I'd be hopeless if someone made a hint based on what a character does or anything like that, but if anyone trusts me they should believe me when I say Snow is ok. For now at least.

Lol. Well I trust you that he's ok for your win condition. However I'm not so sure about mine or anyone else's.

Looks like I'll have to be the first person to vote... I am leaving here by 10:00PM EST so it'll have to be before then. Lol. Not really feeling that great.

Honestly, call it insanity, but I'm contemplating throwing a vote at Nevinera, given his attitude regarding it. I just get the feeling we're being psyched out.

I could perhaps be convinced to throw a vote on Vomps or Bullz as well. Maybe. Not really sure at all.

I wonder... maybe I'll randomize.

Crap. This is tough. Yet again I feel I'm in a similar situation.

Now I realize the win conditions and roles are weird here, but I just can't get past the self-voting. Any baddie can do this in any game, especially in a game where the setup is strange and take advantage of people being rationally cautious, and continually avoid getting lynched due to a balls-to-the-wall approach. I realize there's a theory about insanity, but Nev has been saying for multiple day periods now what he has been regarding his win condition. The truth is that he voted Snow on D1, offering that Snow vote him in return, and then now he's gone off and voted for himself.

I'm contemplating that Snow and Nev could possibly have BTSC and be the Grady twins. Would make sense, wouldn't it? Not sure of that at all though. Given it's difficult to sense anyone else's intentions, and even though there is a possibility Nev might actually benefit from votes, there is always technically a possibility for something like that in a game with secrets. I wasn't sure I bought it with Snow Dog and I'm not sure I buy it now. I know for sure my win condition is NOTHING like that, and I don't see any role other than maybe the hotel that would benefit from something like that. Why would Nev do this perhaps? Well, another possibility is that he sees Snow Dog has survived twice now and seems a bit smug, so maybe he sees that it's an effective strategy. Regardless of the reasoning behind it, it doesn't change the fact that self-voting literally gets the civvie cause no better (even what weirdly constitutes a "civvie" cause in this game is STILL a civvie cause, of sorts), and especially now that it's Day 3, I find it a ridiculous civvie or baddie move regardless.

Add that I don't really have any reads on players due to the unconventional nature so far of this game and I wouldn't feel comfortable voting for Vomps, Bullz, or even Snow right now (though I might consider him second), or anyone else for that matter.

So... I guess I am voting Nevinera. With some hesitation... but I believe it's my best option given what's happened so far this day period and the previous two.

I will be back at some point tomorrow evening, whenever I can grab some internet.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Crap. This is tough. Yet again I feel I'm in a similar situation.

Now I realize the win conditions and roles are weird here, but I just can't get past the self-voting. Any baddie can do this in any game, especially in a game where the setup is strange and take advantage of people being rationally cautious, and continually avoid getting lynched due to a balls-to-the-wall approach. I realize there's a theory about insanity, but Nev has been saying for multiple day periods now what he has been regarding his win condition. The truth is that he voted Snow on D1, offering that Snow vote him in return, and then now he's gone off and voted for himself.

I'm contemplating that Snow and Nev could possibly have BTSC and be the Grady twins. Would make sense, wouldn't it? Not sure of that at all though. Given it's difficult to sense anyone else's intentions, and even though there is a possibility Nev might actually benefit from votes, there is always technically a possibility for something like that in a game with secrets. I wasn't sure I bought it with Snow Dog and I'm not sure I buy it now. I know for sure my win condition is NOTHING like that, and I don't see any role other than maybe the hotel that would benefit from something like that. Why would Nev do this perhaps? Well, another possibility is that he sees Snow Dog has survived twice now and seems a bit smug, so maybe he sees that it's an effective strategy. Regardless of the reasoning behind it, it doesn't change the fact that self-voting literally gets the civvie cause no better (even what weirdly constitutes a "civvie" cause in this game is STILL a civvie cause, of sorts), and especially now that it's Day 3, I find it a ridiculous civvie or baddie move regardless.

Add that I don't really have any reads on players due to the unconventional nature so far of this game and I wouldn't feel comfortable voting for Vomps, Bullz, or even Snow right now (though I might consider him second), or anyone else for that matter.

So... I guess I am voting Nevinera. With some hesitation... but I believe it's my best option given what's happened so far this day period and the previous two.

I will be back at some point tomorrow evening, whenever I can grab some internet.

Oh noes! You saw right through my clever stratagem. Me and snow are in cahoots; you should definitely kill him first though.
Cause lynching me is too dangerous. You've gotta believe me, we will all die :'(

Nevinera wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Crap. This is tough. Yet again I feel I'm in a similar situation.

Now I realize the win conditions and roles are weird here, but I just can't get past the self-voting. Any baddie can do this in any game, especially in a game where the setup is strange and take advantage of people being rationally cautious, and continually avoid getting lynched due to a balls-to-the-wall approach. I realize there's a theory about insanity, but Nev has been saying for multiple day periods now what he has been regarding his win condition. The truth is that he voted Snow on D1, offering that Snow vote him in return, and then now he's gone off and voted for himself.

I'm contemplating that Snow and Nev could possibly have BTSC and be the Grady twins. Would make sense, wouldn't it? Not sure of that at all though. Given it's difficult to sense anyone else's intentions, and even though there is a possibility Nev might actually benefit from votes, there is always technically a possibility for something like that in a game with secrets. I wasn't sure I bought it with Snow Dog and I'm not sure I buy it now. I know for sure my win condition is NOTHING like that, and I don't see any role other than maybe the hotel that would benefit from something like that. Why would Nev do this perhaps? Well, another possibility is that he sees Snow Dog has survived twice now and seems a bit smug, so maybe he sees that it's an effective strategy. Regardless of the reasoning behind it, it doesn't change the fact that self-voting literally gets the civvie cause no better (even what weirdly constitutes a "civvie" cause in this game is STILL a civvie cause, of sorts), and especially now that it's Day 3, I find it a ridiculous civvie or baddie move regardless.

Add that I don't really have any reads on players due to the unconventional nature so far of this game and I wouldn't feel comfortable voting for Vomps, Bullz, or even Snow right now (though I might consider him second), or anyone else for that matter.

So... I guess I am voting Nevinera. With some hesitation... but I believe it's my best option given what's happened so far this day period and the previous two.

I will be back at some point tomorrow evening, whenever I can grab some internet.

Oh noes! You saw right through my clever stratagem. Me and snow are in cahoots; you should definitely kill him first though.
Cause lynching me is too dangerous. You've gotta believe me, we will all die :'(

So I really have no idea how to read Nev right now, cause this seems blatantly like the exact opposite of what we should do. I am surprised your reasoning led you here MP, but I understand the total lack of good candidates. If Nev is being honest and his win condition is aided by us lynching him, why would we do that? As llama has pointed out there are no traditional baddie civvie roles. Yes King was the most traditional baddie in the open, but we have no idea how the game will change us all. Since I don't know Nev's win goal I am a little nervous to vote him. You make an interesting point about the twins MP, but if Nev is one I don't think Snow is the other. Will spend some time rereading, which thankfully in this game is still possible.

I am on a tiny phone. It's the size of the one Will Ferrell used in Zoolander or whatever. Also this B&B is prob haunted. But free k-cups! Stoked.

I saw a gator on the side of the road. Floriduuuuh.

Anyway, I caught up on this thread and must grievously announce my vote for Dev. Sorry hoss.

*Votes Nev 2013*

Well, I actually have internet! And a few minutes to spare.

Nevinera wrote:
Oh noes! You saw right through my clever stratagem. Me and snow are in cahoots; you should definitely kill him first though.
Cause lynching me is too dangerous. You've gotta believe me, we will all die :'(

Lol what

Hedgeowl wrote:
So I really have no idea how to read Nev right now, cause this seems blatantly like the exact opposite of what we should do. I am surprised your reasoning led you here MP, but I understand the total lack of good candidates. If Nev is being honest and his win condition is aided by us lynching him, why would we do that? As llama has pointed out there are no traditional baddie civvie roles. Yes King was the most traditional baddie in the open, but we have no idea how the game will change us all. Since I don't know Nev's win goal I am a little nervous to vote him. You make an interesting point about the twins MP, but if Nev is one I don't think Snow is the other. Will spend some time rereading, which thankfully in this game is still possible.

If he is being honest, then yes, it's a huge unfortunate risk. However, I'm calling out his bluff. First Snow tries to convince us that he wants to be lynched and now Nev? I don't think I buy it. Regardless, the behavior is hardly helpful in the least.

I wasn't trying to convince anyone I want to be lynched so stop saying that now. It's getting old. I didn't want to vote. Period. My self vote was to save Epignosis in case he was someone. A bad strategy because I coulf have died instead.

After I'm lynched you will still all be confused. My suicide has a rational motive, and an extremely civ one.
I won't come back to haunt you. Unless the rules allow that? That would be cool :-p

Nevinera wrote:After I'm lynched you will still all be confused. My suicide has a rational motive, and an extremely civ one.
I won't come back to haunt you. Unless the rules allow that? That would be cool :-p

This isn't the llama gambit right? Cause I don't think that would work in this game. Since we all have what I assume are different win conditions, I really don't know how to interpret your suicide as having an 'extremely civ' motive. I am 95% not inclined to vote for you. I know the tendency is to lynch people for their behavior if it smacks of the weird, unpredictable, and unexplained, because they're probably a baddie, but Nev's actions strike me as decidedly odd.

As for haunting, I have started to wonder if based on our theme there might be more than meets the eye for the dead characters. That would be one of the only ways I could consider Nev's actions rational at all.

Hedgeowl wrote:

Nevinera wrote:After I'm lynched you will still all be confused. My suicide has a rational motive, and an extremely civ one.
I won't come back to haunt you. Unless the rules allow that? That would be cool :-p

This isn't the llama gambit right? Cause I don't think that would work in this game. Since we all have what I assume are different win conditions, I really don't know how to interpret your suicide as having an 'extremely civ' motive. I am 95% not inclined to vote for you. I know the tendency is to lynch people for their behavior if it smacks of the weird, unpredictable, and unexplained, because they're probably a baddie, but Nev's actions strike me as decidedly odd.

As for haunting, I have started to wonder if based on our theme there might be more than meets the eye for the dead characters. That would be one of the only ways I could consider Nev's actions rational at all.

I have no idea what this is, but I agree the 'Llama gambit' (which I won't criticise this time, given our host!) wouldn't apply in a game like this. I'm curious as to what you're thinking about the dead characters though. Could it be that they have to die while the live characters have to survive? That seems just about crazy enough to happen.

Now, see, my problem with people that keep saying that there are no good/bad people is that assuming we all have different win conditions, some peoples conditions might require other people to be dead. To me, those people are potentially negative for me. BUT like someone else has said, the game is 6 days long, we are on Day 3. I don't want/need to necessarily defeat other peoples win conditions of they don't conflict with mine. I do not need anyone to be dead to win, so lynching people does not interest me as much as staying alive. And if Nev WANTS to be lynched, well, he is not trying to lynch me, so I am willing to go for it.

As far as I know (and there are a lot of things we don't know in this game) helping someone else meet their win condition won't hurt me. I will wait a bit to vote and see if Nevin has anything to say about this, but at this point, I am considering a vote for him.

Linki~ considering many of the characters in the original book/film WERE dead/spirits it seems quite possible.

Kate wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:I'm usually oblivious to hints as well. Given I know only the general gist of things about The Shining I'd be hopeless if someone made a hint based on what a character does or anything like that, but if anyone trusts me they should believe me when I say Snow is ok. For now at least.

Lol. Well I trust you that he's ok for your win condition. However I'm not so sure about mine or anyone else's.

Bear in mind I could be completely wrong here and I'll look and feel like a total fool if Snow gets lynched at some point and is anyone other than the person I think he is. He may not even have any idea what I'm talking about. But if I'm right then unless your win condition wants specific people to die then neither he nor I are any threat to you. I'm certainly not in any case.

Linki SVS: Seems you and I are in the same boat. I have no interest in lynching anyone who doesn't want me out of the way to win.

Bullzeye wrote: Linki SVS: Seems you and I are in the same boat. I have no interest in lynching anyone who doesn't want me out of the way to win.

I've changed my mind, we should lynch bullzeye and SVS. I have secret information that almost guarantees that their win condition involves eliminating several of us.

Nevinera wrote:

Bullzeye wrote: Linki SVS: Seems you and I are in the same boat. I have no interest in lynching anyone who doesn't want me out of the way to win.

I've changed my mind, we should lynch bullzeye and SVS. I have secret information that almost guarantees that their win condition involves eliminating several of us.

LOL, thats ridiculous. You have no such info becasue it isn't true, at least not about me. And Bullz isn't acting all that bloodthirsty as far as I can see. Like I said, my win conditions don't involve anyone being dead. Quite the opposite, actually. So either, A, you got false info, or B, you are making it up, and I am going to guess B.

Also, I would like to discuss drinks. I was served a drink last night, but was not told what, if anything, it did. Just that i was thirsty and drank it. Has that happened to anyone else?