The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:10 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:04 pm And in case it isn't clear, I will not save myself. The majority minus me will have the result they want.

That sounds like a strategy that would increase your likelihood of losing.

I agree with this. Epi, if you do this and get mislynched, that’s not just impacting you but the rest of town as well.

Oscar Taveras is the one that fucks me up still tbh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:52 am I don't trust either of MP and LC.
I'm not caught up.....

I’m unconvinced this couldn’t be because you realtimed less with us. I look forward doing that.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:40 am Good morning.

GTH @everyone nominate one player you would day vig if you could.

I’ll get back to you on this.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:04 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:01 pm I’m moving my vote for now for wagononics reasons, to give Michelle a bit of breathing room and make sure I’m not tunneling her, and because Namlook has been by far the most underwhelming player regardless of meta considerations.

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

I would argue I’ve been whelming.

I’m pretty much never going to do “traditional hunting,” I don’t think it’s effective or pro town

I mean, you haven’t been that bad to be clear, you’re making reads at least and pushing the game forward in a unique way, I’m just feeling less than a lot of others. I’m actually in a situation right now where I see the cases for why everyone should live more than anything.

How do you believe you best contribute to helping town? All types of players can be helpful to that.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:08 pm Oscar Taveras is the one that fucks me up still tbh

That’s understandable.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:12 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:52 am I don't trust either of MP and LC.
I'm not caught up.....

I’m unconvinced this couldn’t be because you realtimed less with us. I look forward doing that.

Wait, this wording sucks. See, I suck at English too. I don’t want anyone to be under the impression that I think otherwise.

Actually you know what.

[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

Let’s talk about Mac because I’m increasingly thinking what he did could have been more to earn himself town points than to actually solve the game.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:55 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:00 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:49 am I’m here! Sort of.

Answer at the GTH question amd at the above post pls

You first,please. I don't think I have seen any non reactonary reads from you.

I like the honesty of this, a wolf would not be so directly whishing the death of a villager.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:15 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:04 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:01 pm I’m moving my vote for now for wagononics reasons, to give Michelle a bit of breathing room and make sure I’m not tunneling her, and because Namlook has been by far the most underwhelming player regardless of meta considerations.

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

I would argue I’ve been whelming.

I’m pretty much never going to do “traditional hunting,” I don’t think it’s effective or pro town

I mean, you haven’t been that bad to be clear, you’re making reads at least and pushing the game forward in a unique way, I’m just feeling less than a lot of others. I’m actually in a situation right now where I see the cases for why everyone should live more than anything.

How do you believe you best contribute to helping town? All types of players can be helpful to that.

Usually I’m pretty good at building a winning POE mid to late game.

I like that under increasing pressure Michelle continued to throw out reads, even if I did feel there was some OMGUS and misunderstandings on both sides of things.

You know what would personally really help me, Michelle, is like a reads list or something similar. It might help others as well.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:20 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:15 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:04 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:01 pm I’m moving my vote for now for wagononics reasons, to give Michelle a bit of breathing room and make sure I’m not tunneling her, and because Namlook has been by far the most underwhelming player regardless of meta considerations.

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

I would argue I’ve been whelming.

I’m pretty much never going to do “traditional hunting,” I don’t think it’s effective or pro town

I mean, you haven’t been that bad to be clear, you’re making reads at least and pushing the game forward in a unique way, I’m just feeling less than a lot of others. I’m actually in a situation right now where I see the cases for why everyone should live more than anything.

How do you believe you best contribute to helping town? All types of players can be helpful to that.

Usually I’m pretty good at building a winning POE mid to late game.

Well that’s something we share. I would consider that hunting. Hunting for the town is just as important if not more so than hunting scum IMO.

Do you have a POE right now? With the understanding that it’s Day 1 of course.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:26 pm I like that under increasing pressure Michelle continued to throw out reads, even if I did feel there was some OMGUS and misunderstandings on both sides of things.

You know what would personally really help me, Michelle, is like a reads list or something similar. It might help others as well.

I posted my reads before going to bed last night (rl, like 20 h ago) and nothing changed yet.

I wanted all day to make that Iso but being home all day made me do homechores i postponed too much time. Now may be the time.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:27 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:20 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:15 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:04 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:01 pm I’m moving my vote for now for wagononics reasons, to give Michelle a bit of breathing room and make sure I’m not tunneling her, and because Namlook has been by far the most underwhelming player regardless of meta considerations.

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

I would argue I’ve been whelming.

I’m pretty much never going to do “traditional hunting,” I don’t think it’s effective or pro town

I mean, you haven’t been that bad to be clear, you’re making reads at least and pushing the game forward in a unique way, I’m just feeling less than a lot of others. I’m actually in a situation right now where I see the cases for why everyone should live more than anything.

How do you believe you best contribute to helping town? All types of players can be helpful to that.

Usually I’m pretty good at building a winning POE mid to late game.

Well that’s something we share. I would consider that hunting. Hunting for the town is just as important if not more so than hunting scum IMO.

Do you have a POE right now? With the understanding that it’s Day 1 of course.

I said I don’t do traditional hunting or presentation of reads, not that I don’t hunt

Not really tbh—I have a couple people I wouldn’t kill today but not really enough TRs I’m confident in to build a decent POE.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:31 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:26 pm I like that under increasing pressure Michelle continued to throw out reads, even if I did feel there was some OMGUS and misunderstandings on both sides of things.

You know what would personally really help me, Michelle, is like a reads list or something similar. It might help others as well.

I posted my reads before going to bed last night (rl, like 20 h ago) and nothing changed yet.

I wanted all day to make that Iso but being home all day made me do homechores i postponed too much time. Now may be the time.

Good to know, I was asking purely for your current thoughts.

I say go for it. It doesn’t even have to be super detailed or anything.

Got it, thanks Nanook.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:32 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:31 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:26 pm I like that under increasing pressure Michelle continued to throw out reads, even if I did feel there was some OMGUS and misunderstandings on both sides of things.

You know what would personally really help me, Michelle, is like a reads list or something similar. It might help others as well.

I posted my reads before going to bed last night (rl, like 20 h ago) and nothing changed yet.

I wanted all day to make that Iso but being home all day made me do homechores i postponed too much time. Now may be the time.

Good to know, I was asking purely for your current thoughts.

I say go for it. It doesn’t even have to be super detailed or anything.

My main mafia read is still Dizzy and I am wary about your always changing oppinions and idk if it's showing scum behaviour or towny searching for answers. All your thoughts look solvy but idk your scum range.
My top town are Svs. and i like now Nanook more than earlier.

What do you like more about Nanook now?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:25 pm Wtf is going on nobody feels like themselves

Found this while looking at Dizzy's posts. Looks like town frustration, scum would speculate this fact instead pointing it.
Nut going near Svs in my reads.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:45 pm What do you like more about Nanook now?

Tone.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:03 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:25 pm Wtf is going on nobody feels like themselves

Found this while looking at Dizzy's posts. Looks like town frustration, scum would speculate this fact instead pointing it.
Nut going near Svs in my reads.

I agree with your interpretation.

I actually would place Nutella as my top town read even if I’m not a supporter of her Epi vote.

This thread is too quiet to be this spread out on votes and two hours prior to EOD. It could mean nothing, but it could be that scum feel complacent right now.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:09 pm wow mac is really going hard on this theory

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] This is not too far from her saying you're "too efforty". You were too harsh on a tired drunk LC, and I think you owe me an apology.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:25 pm This thread is too quiet to be this spread out on votes and two hours prior to EOD. It could mean nothing, but it could be that scum feel complacent right now.

Thank you for the reminder, I was imagining we had till tonight, aka maybe 6 - 7 hours more.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:25 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:09 pm wow mac is really going hard on this theory

@MacDougall This is not too far from her saying you're "too efforty". You were too harsh on a tired drunk LC, and I think you owe me an apology.

What’s your read on Mac, LC?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:26 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:25 pm This thread is too quiet to be this spread out on votes and two hours prior to EOD. It could mean nothing, but it could be that scum feel complacent right now.

Thank you for the reminder, I was imagining we had till tonight, aka maybe 6 - 7 hours more.

No problem.

Admittedly, that could be part of it too. It is at a weird time, but considering the quarantine I figured it may not matter.

I’ll be back in like 30 minutes max, but then I’ll be thread sitting until deadline.

I'm sticking with my Dizzy vote. He sets MP and I up for suspicion based on us being the latest players to the thread, decides I'm bad on my first post, and later it's still "I don't trust either of MP and LC. I'm not caught up....."

This is a poor copy of Dizzy's normally top-quality town play.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:26 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:25 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:09 pm wow mac is really going hard on this theory

@MacDougall This is not too far from her saying you're "too efforty". You were too harsh on a tired drunk LC, and I think you owe me an apology.

What’s your read on Mac, LC?

Not great. He's really only put out a theory that literally starts with "Now imagine for a moment that Dyslexicon and Epignosis are partners..." and then shoehorns every post they make into that idea. If Dizzy is bad, then it looks worse for Mac because he's focusing on Epignosis, who I think is the less suspicious of the two.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:29 pm I’ll be back in like 30 minutes max, but then I’ll be thread sitting until deadline.

I'll be in and out.

I'm here, I'm a civilian, and I'm cranky. I have 53 minutes. Stand by while I do it all.

I have read nothing. I will not be reading the thread in sequence given the time crunch. I am operating from post histories alone. If you think something is crucially important, I need you to tell me what it is and point me to it. Don't make me go fishing.

Hi JJJ - I'm currently voting for you, and you are maybe currently voting for me? Depends how Dizzy you wanna be.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:03 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:04 am Good morning!

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:10 pm TH watching the thread and not playing makes me feel like my favorite baseball team just lost if I was into sports and knew how that felt like.

Since then Dizzy needs to mention this kind of infos instead waiting a post from a player to work with?

What does this mean? Do you mean to say it's scummy that I miss TH?

That means i thought TH is playing and I didn't check. My bad.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:44 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:25 pm Wtf is going on nobody feels like themselves

Dizzy doesn't. Epi feels like the Epi I just played with (ie. scum). Therefore they are teammates. Also they are teammates.

Epi had made six posts as of this comment, and they bear no obvious resemblance to the GOC. Mac's read is b/s.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:39 pm Hi JJJ - I'm currently voting for you, and you are maybe currently voting for me? Depends how Dizzy you wanna be.

I trust Dizzy's judgment. We'll see.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:21 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:50 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:53 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:31 am I think i will dig in Wiki infos about this sport.

Until now I have a secret TR and a town lean on Nutella for the ping !

Nope.

Expand pls

Nope.

Asking questions is not a crime. Dizzy avoided me. It's not specific for town to reffuse interaction.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:44 pm Frist game I've played with every single one here!

Spoiler: show

The jokey tone felt off because Dizzy is a deadly serious villager. Maybe the isolation days made us all react strange but... but.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:44 pm Why has MP not 100+ posts yet?

Lockscum.

So while, like he said recently, he had me as scum since the get go, he throws some jokes at me and posts this level zero read. Maybe was still a joke. But the tone feels forced for me.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:24 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:16 pm[VOTE: you] aubergine

[VOTE: No U] aubergine

omgus? what for?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:12 pm @Long Con @M Plus 7 Which one of you is town? I will believe the first who claims it.

I can't belive town comes to this kind of reads.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:14 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:10 pm Like, Mac made some good points

Nut, I know you are town. Or I at the very least think I know and that is all I can pray for. Look me in the eyes and take my hand. Would I ever be scum? Would I ever morder you in your sleep? Of course not! The very thought is absurd. I need you to know this. You're my only friends here.

TMI plus a pockety attitude.

Noticed the sub, i am posting this for now.

Epignosis is a civilian. Contrary to Mac's assertion, I see a stark shift in his play from the GOC to now -- my suspicion of him in that game originated from his blase do-nothing attitude that persisted from start to finish. He has not displayed that here.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:37 pm I'm here, I'm a civilian, and I'm cranky. I have 53 minutes. Stand by while I do it all.

oh boy

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:41 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:39 pm Hi JJJ - I'm currently voting for you, and you are maybe currently voting for me? Depends how Dizzy you wanna be.

I trust Dizzy's judgment. We'll see.

I think you'll find things a little lackluster this time.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:41 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:39 pm Hi JJJ - I'm currently voting for you, and you are maybe currently voting for me? Depends how Dizzy you wanna be.

I trust Dizzy's judgment. We'll see.

I think you'll find things a little lackluster this time.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:41 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:39 pm Hi JJJ - I'm currently voting for you, and you are maybe currently voting for me? Depends how Dizzy you wanna be.

I trust Dizzy's judgment. We'll see.

Welcome in my top scum slot Jay.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:39 pm I have read nothing.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:44 pm Epignosis is a civilian.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:46 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:41 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:39 pm Hi JJJ - I'm currently voting for you, and you are maybe currently voting for me? Depends how Dizzy you wanna be.

I trust Dizzy's judgment. We'll see.

Welcome in my top scum slot Jay.

Wrong!

I am entering a mode of spam, and you would do well to interpret it fairly regardless of your perspectives of Dyslexicon. I'll be the judge.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:36 pm I actually have tons of reads.

I went through all of Dyslexicon's posts and I don't have any idea what his opinions are about anybody except nutella until about here:

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:12 am Nut, SVS, Mac and Epi are all very likely to be town imo. If I'm wrong on Michelle idfk, but I don't feel like I am.

LC's post was bad and MP hasn't posted which is also bad. So it's Michelle plus one of LC and MP. I'm good a mafia sometimes, you've seen it. And if I'm not, blame my teammate Epi.

I don't understand the basis for any of these opinions.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:39 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:37 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:36 pm Come at me, Michelle. I can read you.

You weren't so interested to read me before

What does this mean? I'm always interested to read you because you're one of the people here I read the best imo. Remember I read you early in the champs game too. Here I don't see you as town, so I'm going to call it out. If you're town, don't worry, we'll figure it out. But I don't see it.

Dyslexicon has left room for the perspective that he is wrong about Michelle. Fine.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:43 pm It might be Michelle/LC as well. I'm not sure.

This is such a silly thing to observe, especially on Day 1. Of course it might be Michelle and Long Con. It could be any pairing.

The only reason this post exists is to provide Dyslexicon a pretext for voting Long Con, which indeed happens with no other basis:

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:01 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:59 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:23 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

I guess that saying you took Michelle's post out of context to accuse her put it over the top, huh?

I don't know what mean by this. I have only skimmed, but there's some sort of fire burning in Michelle, so maybe she's town. Also she's right when she said I assumed she was scum from the start, cause I did get scum vibes from her from the very beginning.

But like, you naughty. How do you plead?

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

And holy JaggedJimmyJay. I think I just voted for you.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:44 pm Epignosis is a civilian. Contrary to Mac's assertion, I see a stark shift in his play from the GOC to now -- my suspicion of him in that game originated from his blase do-nothing attitude that persisted from start to finish. He has not displayed that here.

Believe it or not, I have a lot more time on spring break during a coronavirus quarantine. Who knew?

Computer wi-fi just trashed. Cool.

I have Long Con gripes. I dunno what Dizzy’s gripes were, but I have Long Con gripes.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:44 pm Epignosis is a civilian. Contrary to Mac's assertion, I see a stark shift in his play from the GOC to now -- my suspicion of him in that game originated from his blase do-nothing attitude that persisted from start to finish. He has not displayed that here.

I strongly disagree. What has he done