The Syndicate

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:18 pm**

Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:48 pmOh yeah and since it's been talked about a bit, I'm just gonna say that another reason I have Stayposi as town now is because while she's not postin' as much as the rest of us, her posts are pretty... "powerful" in a sense. I'd like to call it somethin' like high-impact posting. I'm willing to listen to Dyslexicon's opinion of course, but I don't think she's got scum vibes like some of the other people I've been talkin' about.

And another thing too that I noticed... I still kinda feel like Lime Coke is mirroring the thread. He seems almost scared to make strong statements and has even qualified a few of them like his townread on ilario. Dunno... think I'm just gettin' the vibe that he's a bit uncomfortable.

I'm not actually scum reading spf here, to be clear. I'm not really reading her as anything, at least until I fact check myself lol. And I'm more than willing to listen to other people's opinion here. In any case, game is still young, so lettuce see what happens.

Regarding Lime, I feel that unless consensus is horribly off, I'd say he's probably town siding quite a bit if he is in fact mafia. Which I guess is possible. But I don't know, I don't really feel it. Or, I feel like he's actually happy about the town reads he has as opposed to not happy.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:19 pm**

Dyslexicon
ilario
Sloonei
Son of Anarch

Lime Coke
Marmot
staypositivefriend

~~~ POE Line~~~

falcon45ca
NotAnAxehole

Dolby
G-Man
Johanna

sig

TonyStarkPrime

I don't really care to have this many levels in my reads these days, but whatever it's still a depiction of how I feel at the moment. I would tend to doubt that I have all four mafia under the POE line. I would like to think I have three of them. That light green sector is the one in flux for me. If the town among them can shine brightly then this game ought to be solvable in short order.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:19 pm**

Names within tiers are only ordered alphabetically.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:20 pm**

Also, I have more tangible reasons to town read Sloonmeister now. I'll keep it to myself for now, unless someone really needs to hear it. So this post is probably not very useful. But in short, I'm arrogant enough to think I might have a tell(-ish) on him.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:22 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:19 pm
Lime Coke

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:22 pm**

Lime Coke

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:22 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:19 pm Dyslexicon
ilario
Sloonei
Son of Anarch

Lime Coke
Marmot
staypositivefriend

~~~ POE Line~~~

falcon45ca
NotAnAxehole

Dolby
G-Man
Johanna

sig

TonyStarkPrime

I don't really care to have this many levels in my reads these days, but whatever it's still a depiction of how I feel at the moment. I would tend to doubt that I have all four mafia under the POE line. I would like to think I have three of them. That light green sector is the one in flux for me. If the town among them can shine brightly then this game ought to be solvable in short order.

at least two people below your poe line are reasonably clearly town which does not inspire confidence (falcon's a question mark tbh he has three posts)

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:22 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:18 pm Regarding Lime, I feel that unless consensus is horribly off, I'd say he's probably town siding quite a bit if he is in fact mafia.

Elaborate.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:23 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:51 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:48 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:44 am5.5 town reads less than 12 hours into the game, eh?
U mad about my town reads? Y
Cuz TR's should be earned, not thrown about like candy at a kid's birthday party.

Who is not earning their town reads?
Last game we played, I was impressed by your reads tbh. This game, I am not vibing with them much. Would maybe help if you could explain the connection you see between your suspicions, if there are any?

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:23 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:22 pm at least two people below your poe line are reasonably clearly town which does not inspire confidence (falcon's a question mark tbh he has three posts)

Who and why?

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:24 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:22 pm at least two people below your poe line are reasonably clearly town which does not inspire confidence (falcon's a question mark tbh he has three posts)

Request: a post in which TonyStarkPrime discusses his town read on sig.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:25 pm**

Lime Coke may have gotten of to a perceived awkward start, but his reads are very closely in alignment with mine and that means more to me. So: light green.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:25 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:22 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:18 pm Regarding Lime, I feel that unless consensus is horribly off, I'd say he's probably town siding quite a bit if he is in fact mafia.
Elaborate.

He's making town reads (essentially boxing strategy). If he's mafia, unless my read on the game is bad (of course possible D1 all that, but I don't really think so right now), he's boxing in partners if he's mafia.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:26 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:25 pm Lime Coke may have gotten of to a perceived awkward start, but his reads are very closely in alignment with mine and that means more to me. So: light green.

Well, essentially this.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:27 pm**

[VOTE: lime coke] aubergine

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:27 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:22 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:18 pm Regarding Lime, I feel that unless consensus is horribly off, I'd say he's probably town siding quite a bit if he is in fact mafia.
Elaborate.
He's making town reads (essentially boxing strategy). If he's mafia, unless my read on the game is bad (of course possible D1 all that, but I don't really think so right now), he's boxing in partners if he's mafia.

Yes. Either 1) he's town and on a believable solving path, 2) he's mafia and feels forced to work with reads detrimental to him anyway, or 3) he's mafia capitalizing on bad town reads.

They're all possible, but I don't worry about 3) and encourage 2) if it exists. 1) seems the most probable.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:33 pm**

The only thing that I haven't exactly done that's relevant to my town game, is my reads typically come in more detailed and nuanced. I end up coming up with a post or some kind of read that has extra stuff to it.

Currently my townreads are all vibe reads.

But the thing is that I feel good about them. So if I don't need a reason to change up my strategy, why bother?

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:34 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:11 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:58 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:25 pmThese posts in particular are what I'm talking about, feels like Ilario is playin' a soft cuddly game
He also claimed a named role, one that is ultimately negative utility for town, so makes sense to claim. Regardless of that, I'd be pretty surprised to find Ilario scum here. He's been actively trying to find other town and seems excited about it. The way he's talking to me feels like town finding town, not buddying mafia, that would almost feel mean lol (maybe I'm naive about that in particular). In any case, unless he's cc'd why not just have him town imo. Not that he should necessarily be cc'd if he's lying =)

The part where he says “not buddying mafia , that would almost feel mean lol (maybe I'm naive about that in particular“

Is the moment where I townlocked dyslexicon into never rescind until lylo category

To explain why: I feel like both our trs on each other is more of an emotional read/matching of vibes as opposed to something tangible that’s happened in game. I normally love when I successfully pocket people as mafia for game related reasons but if I feel like someone’s read on me is based on an emotional level then I feel guilty about it if I’m mafia and they’re town. This is why you will almost never see me resort to using ate as mafia to convince people because I don’t feel good about playing that way. So when dyslexicon says that my approach would feel almost mean it really does match up with my own feelings about the game and it’s principles in general that I just can’t help but townlock him here

Honestly I wouldn’t even be mad if I end up wrong on this read because It’s been a while that I’ve trd someone strongly and ended up flat out wrong and feelings like that make the game worthy replaying so I don’t even mind if I’m wrong here.

You're not wrong.
And I could write this very post back at you right now. I'm a good mafia player, but I hate playing as mafia. I can use AtE as mafia to get out of a rough spot. But I wouldn't use it needlessly when already being on someone's good term. While totally fair to do, that just seems unnecessary imo.

You are the in game date I have been longing for.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:34 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:27 pm [VOTE: lime coke] aubergine

Just caution. I am not overly swayed by the argument that he is making town reads and therefore should be town. Sometimes a mafier just does that to blend in, especially on Day 1.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:36 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:34 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:27 pm [VOTE: lime coke] aubergine
Just caution. I am not overly swayed by the argument that he is making town reads and therefore should be town. Sometimes a mafier just does that to blend in, especially on Day 1.

Is there something in particular that makes you think the soda can is evil?

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:39 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:19 pm Dyslexicon
ilario
Sloonei
Son of Anarch

Lime Coke
Marmot
staypositivefriend

~~~ POE Line~~~

falcon45ca
NotAnAxehole

Dolby
G-Man
Johanna

sig

TonyStarkPrime

I don't really care to have this many levels in my reads these days, but whatever it's still a depiction of how I feel at the moment. I would tend to doubt that I have all four mafia under the POE line. I would like to think I have three of them. That light green sector is the one in flux for me. If the town among them can shine brightly then this game ought to be solvable in short order.

Yes. Pretty much. I feel like I'm doing a boxing game with Jimmay. I hope this feeling is true. I'm fine with sleeping spf read, and fine circling back to it when I need to.

Point to ponder: Would Tony say Sig is towny off of those posts if teamed with Sig? I would tend to think no.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:40 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:22 pmat least two people below your poe line are reasonably clearly town which does not inspire confidence (falcon's a question mark tbh he has three posts)

But why is Sig towny to you?

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:42 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:36 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:34 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:27 pm [VOTE: lime coke] aubergine
Just caution. I am not overly swayed by the argument that he is making town reads and therefore should be town. Sometimes a mafier just does that to blend in, especially on Day 1.
Is there something in particular that makes you think the soda can is evil?

I did not love his responses to my questions on the previous page, but that is nothing solid. His initial reference to Axehole as someone he had not read struck me as odd, and his response(s) seemed to branch off in ways that felt nervous.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:42 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:34 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:27 pm [VOTE: lime coke] aubergine
Just caution. I am not overly swayed by the argument that he is making town reads and therefore should be town. Sometimes a mafier just does that to blend in, especially on Day 1.

Do you want to talk about the reasons you find his posts suspicious?

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:43 pm**

I really don't have much of a defense since most of Sloonei's reasoning is basically a modified vibe read.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:45 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:43 pm I really don't have much of a defense since most of Sloonei's reasoning is basically a modified vibe read.

There is nothing you need to defend against. Just keep playing the game and my read will develop.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:45 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:34 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:27 pm [VOTE: lime coke] aubergine
Just caution. I am not overly swayed by the argument that he is making town reads and therefore should be town. Sometimes a mafier just does that to blend in, especially on Day 1.
Do you want to talk about the reasons you find his posts suspicious?

^^

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:46 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:42 pmI did not love his responses to my questions on the previous page, but that is nothing solid. His initial reference to Axehole as someone he had not read struck me as odd, and his response(s) seemed to branch off in ways that felt nervous.

It could be. Right now, I'm feeling he is happy town sorting, though it could be just an act of course, or worse, the consensus reads are not great. I remember finding his caution for reading Ilario town a bit odd, though it made more sense with what I perceive to be history between them.

Do you have an opinion on Jimmay's read list, which is basically also my read list tbh

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:47 pm**

I will clarify that I'm not moved by Lime Coke giving many town reads as much as I am by those town reads being the same as my town reads. Either my reads suck or he's playing to my win condition (regardless of his own alignment).

Anyway it's a long day so I'll let him do what he do and shut my mouth.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:48 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:46 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:42 pmI did not love his responses to my questions on the previous page, but that is nothing solid. His initial reference to Axehole as someone he had not read struck me as odd, and his response(s) seemed to branch off in ways that felt nervous.
It could be. Right now, I'm feeling he is happy town sorting, though it could be just an act of course, or worse, the consensus reads are not great. I remember finding his caution for reading Ilario town a bit odd, though it made more sense with what I perceive to be history between them.

Do you have an opinion on Jimmay's read list, which is basically also my read list tbh

I have no qualms with the top tier.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:50 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:48 pmI have no qualms with the top tier.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:00 pm**

[VOTE: Axehole] aubergine

I see your blind vote on me.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:01 pm**

Does TonyStarkPrime really read me as mafia? Is this a real thing?

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:08 pm**

By the way hopefully there's more activity throughout the course of today.

....and some people get their sticks together.

Because I got the Browns game tomorrow and I really don't want to be fucking checking this game just because I'm getting voted for "being stilted" although there's way worse fucking slots than me.

There's not much activity though during these hours so not feeling positive about this shit at all.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:14 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:08 pm By the way hopefully there's more activity throughout the course of today.

....and some people get their sticks together.

Because I got the Browns game tomorrow and I really don't want to be fucking checking this game just because I'm getting voted for "being stilted" although there's way worse fucking slots than me.

There's not much activity though during these hours so not feeling positive about this shit at all.

That awkward feeling when I think this post is kind of stilted.

The worse slots being the more low posting ones?
What AI things do you read out of those slots?

I do agree about missing activity from the low and no posters. Waiting patiently.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:14 pm**

[VOTE: sig] aubergine so that maybe @TonyStarkPrime will tell me why it’s wrong to do this.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:14 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:08 pm although there's way worse fucking slots than me.

This is such a scummy roundabout way of saying "I'm town" without telling a direct lie.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:16 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:01 pm Does TonyStarkPrime really read me as mafia? Is this a real thing?

TSP being up to date with the game at all at this stage is sus.

I realise this is an unfortunate read.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:17 pm**

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:19 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:14 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:08 pm By the way hopefully there's more activity throughout the course of today.

....and some people get their sticks together.

Because I got the Browns game tomorrow and I really don't want to be fucking checking this game just because I'm getting voted for "being stilted" although there's way worse fucking slots than me.

There's not much activity though during these hours so not feeling positive about this shit at all.
That awkward feeling when I think this post is kind of stilted.

The worse slots being the more low posting ones?
What AI things do you read out of those slots?

I do agree about missing activity from the low and no posters. Waiting patiently.

The fact that I'm getting "Well LC is making only consensus reads!"

Meanwhile Axehole just made 3 consensus reads, and just jumps on my wagon with a hidden vote.

Sig is even worse because he did next to nothing.

Like those 2 are way worse.

Don't go after the guy actively solving the fucking game. Come on now.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:20 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:08 pm By the way hopefully there's more activity throughout the course of today.

....and some people get their sticks together.

Because I got the Browns game tomorrow and I really don't want to be fucking checking this game just because I'm getting voted for "being stilted" although there's way worse fucking slots than me.

There's not much activity though during these hours so not feeling positive about this shit at all.

Vote changes are abundant here. I do not think you need to feel this level of anxiety about being chopped at this stage in the day.

I agree that more voices would make this game better.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:22 pm**

Actually i’m not really familiar with trends on the Syndicate over the last year. I don’t know what the cool kids are into these days.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:24 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:22 pm Actually i’m not really familiar with trends on the Syndicate over the last year. I don’t know what the cool kids are into these days.

this is
like
wolfy?
but like
in a villagery way
idk
like
its just like
twtbaw
so its not like
outed

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:25 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:19 pmThe fact that I'm getting "Well LC is making only consensus reads!"

Meanwhile Axehole just made 3 consensus reads, and just jumps on my wagon with a hidden vote.

Sig is even worse because he did next to nothing.

Like those 2 are way worse.

Don't go after the guy actively solving the fucking game. Come on now.

Do you think Axe and Sig have been acting scummy?
It seems to me like you're saying that they look worse, which is slightly different.

In any case, votes are not set in stone. If you are town, keep solving when you have the time to.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:25 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:20 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:08 pm By the way hopefully there's more activity throughout the course of today.

....and some people get their sticks together.

Because I got the Browns game tomorrow and I really don't want to be fucking checking this game just because I'm getting voted for "being stilted" although there's way worse fucking slots than me.

There's not much activity though during these hours so not feeling positive about this shit at all.
Vote changes are abundant here. I do not think you need to feel this level of anxiety about being chopped at this stage in the day.

I agree that more voices would make this game better.

I know that I shouldn't I'm just annoyed that I was actually vibing in the game and getting a solve and then people just go after me.

I'll try to calm down.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:26 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:24 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:22 pm Actually i’m not really familiar with trends on the Syndicate over the last year. I don’t know what the cool kids are into these days.
this is
like
wolfy?
but like
in a villagery way
idk
like
its just like
twtbaw
so its not like
outed

Spoiler: show
don't take this post seriously

You have both lost me. Is it a twin thing?

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:26 pm**

It's nothing just having a laff

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:28 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:24 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:22 pm Actually i’m not really familiar with trends on the Syndicate over the last year. I don’t know what the cool kids are into these days.
this is
like
wolfy?
but like
in a villagery way
idk
like
its just like
twtbaw
so its not like
outed

Spoiler: show
don't take this post seriously

I regret to announce my retirement from internet mafia effective immediately.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:28 pm**

I have no idea what Tony is doing in this game and might just park my vote until I do.

Posted: **Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:28 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:26 pm It's nothing just having a laff

But this is a serious game, Jimmay.
We live in serious times and we do serious games on the internet.

The Syndicate

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