The Syndicate

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:52 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:50 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:46 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.

This is extremely NAI for Creature

honestly that whole alison post reads as scum casing town

Nah. Alison being guns blazing like this is townie and maybe this is the weakest point in the case but the rest is on the nose. Like the whole guilty conscience and 3p comment thing is pretty solid slam dunking imo.

hmm will consider

to me: i read the post first of all paying attention to its form more-so than the contents, and it really seemed like alison was trying /hard/ to follow a process and more than that appear to be following a process. maybe i am being anti-intellectual here and there is towny merit in casing people like that, but i honestly get the feeling she's trying too hard to slam dunk creature through a rigid adherence to cause-and-effect writing.

idk if that makes sense but ye

A rigid adherence to cause-and-effect is a good way to summarize my town play.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:50 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:46 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.

This is extremely NAI for Creature

honestly that whole alison post reads as scum casing town

Nah. Alison being guns blazing like this is townie and maybe this is the weakest point in the case but the rest is on the nose. Like the whole guilty conscience and 3p comment thing is pretty solid slam dunking imo.

The guilty was like half-serious. It was the best thing to push on at the time. It was that or wait for a magical case on someone.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:23 pm The fact that Creature can only bring himself to talk about one thing so far is wolfy.

The fact that he's clearly beenfollowing along live for a reasonable amount of time given how quickly he voted nut makes it wolfier.

The fact that it's a piece of mechanical information also makes it wolfier.

The fact that it's an obviously fake redcheck also makes it wolfier.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:50 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:46 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.

This is extremely NAI for Creature

honestly that whole alison post reads as scum casing town

Nah. Alison being guns blazing like this is townie and maybe this is the weakest point in the case but the rest is on the nose. Like the whole guilty conscience and 3p comment thing is pretty solid slam dunking imo.

The guilty was like half-serious. It was the best thing to push on at the time. It was that or wait for a magical case on someone.

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:17 pm early take is that Seanzie is probably wolfing imo

Sabie had an odd opener but i haven't read any additional posts from her

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:23 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:20 pm For real though, alexa and nutella are doing nothing to dissuade my pre-game assumption that all or most of alexa/nutella/mac/alison are chosen wolves.

Let's get chopping.

nobody would choose me as a wolf lmao

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:48 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:41 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:06 pm OK, so Neeko's current theory.
Neeko's role makes her agree with Nutella roles and alignments might not be tied down.
If Mafia chose roles why not take N0 rolecop? So Mafia either chose players and forwent N0 rolecop meaning Alexa and Nutella are both Town.

In the case that Mafia chose players, I don't see how you are concluding Alexa and Nutella are both town. Mafia chosing players doesn't seem to actually have any connection with the conclusion you're drawing here. Are you saying that Alexa and Nutella would not be chosen? Considering that Alexa was literally a wolf in a wolf-win champs finale, I think Alexa is a very natural candidate for wolves to choose, and while I think Nutella has a stronger town game than wolf game, they aren't a bad wolf, so they also could be wolf here. This t/t case makes no sense IMO.

OR
Mafia chose roles and took N0 rolecop using it to find roles quicker. Mafia probably wouldn't say they have a N0 rolecop on who they actually checked meaning Nutella and Alexa are probably both Mafia pretending with a gambit.
Nutella suggesting roles are not tied to alignment to Neeko makes it more likely option B was what happened and Nutella knew roles were not randomly assigned alignments.

This case also doesn't really make sense IMO. First off, there is exactly one soup kill and the wolves need to sacrifice a wolf in order to use it, so it will likely only be used late game. There may be many very strong roles, so a single N0 rolecop that can't be used until late game. Vig shots, strong investigatives, strong protectives and random other roles I think all make more sense than a N0 rolecop. Perhaps if there are only 6 other strong roles out there, then sure, but from what I've seen of Alexa's role, I don't see it as so powerful that Mafia would have definitely taken it. So, that part doesn't really work out...

Now, I don't see how Nutella saying roles are not tied to alignment makes it likely that it was option B. If town!Nutella got a scummy-looking role, then they would know that scummy-looking roles can be given to town, no? So this is at best a confbias read you're pushing on Nutella and at worst a chance for you to flame fans onto a spat.

The T/T case was from the assumption that roles are not tied to alignments. If Mafia didn't pick N0 rolecop then Alexa can't be Mafia meaning Nutella is probably Town from their reaction.
The W/W case Neeko still thinks is valid, but will give you that maybe she's wrong about Nutella being more likely to be Mafia with that comment.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:51 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:49 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.

This is extremely NAI for Creature

Are the other parts of my case NAI for him, too?

Fluff posts are NAI

Whatever the derp thing you mean is NAI because you don't need to put stock on them

The flame fanning or whatever could just be town trying to push something

It's true, I don't need to put stock in the derptells. But I think you're the kind of player who would be a lot more likely to try to derpclear yourself as scum than as town.

Flame fanning - okay. What were you trying to push, and what did you gain from those pushes? Can you elaborate on your Seanzie read?

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:52 pm Guillo feels tonally off to me and his vote on falcon was pingy

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:50 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:46 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.

This is extremely NAI for Creature

honestly that whole alison post reads as scum casing town

Nah. Alison being guns blazing like this is townie and maybe this is the weakest point in the case but the rest is on the nose. Like the whole guilty conscience and 3p comment thing is pretty solid slam dunking imo.

The guilty was like half-serious. It was the best thing to push on at the time. It was that or wait for a magical case on someone.

This isn't helping you

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pm Wow we really are voting out LP

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:23 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:20 pm For real though, alexa and nutella are doing nothing to dissuade my pre-game assumption that all or most of alexa/nutella/mac/alison are chosen wolves.

Let's get chopping.

nobody would choose me as a wolf lmao

What? How’s this work? Did wolves get to choose their team? Or just a few players

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:33 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:31 pm there's a chance she is town it is not exactly a red check i won't know for sure until tomorrow or the next day

Alexa! You made me claim! Tell me why I shouldn't shoot you right now?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:48 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:41 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:06 pm OK, so Neeko's current theory.
Neeko's role makes her agree with Nutella roles and alignments might not be tied down.
If Mafia chose roles why not take N0 rolecop? So Mafia either chose players and forwent N0 rolecop meaning Alexa and Nutella are both Town.

In the case that Mafia chose players, I don't see how you are concluding Alexa and Nutella are both town. Mafia chosing players doesn't seem to actually have any connection with the conclusion you're drawing here. Are you saying that Alexa and Nutella would not be chosen? Considering that Alexa was literally a wolf in a wolf-win champs finale, I think Alexa is a very natural candidate for wolves to choose, and while I think Nutella has a stronger town game than wolf game, they aren't a bad wolf, so they also could be wolf here. This t/t case makes no sense IMO.

OR
Mafia chose roles and took N0 rolecop using it to find roles quicker. Mafia probably wouldn't say they have a N0 rolecop on who they actually checked meaning Nutella and Alexa are probably both Mafia pretending with a gambit.
Nutella suggesting roles are not tied to alignment to Neeko makes it more likely option B was what happened and Nutella knew roles were not randomly assigned alignments.

This case also doesn't really make sense IMO. First off, there is exactly one soup kill and the wolves need to sacrifice a wolf in order to use it, so it will likely only be used late game. There may be many very strong roles, so a single N0 rolecop that can't be used until late game. Vig shots, strong investigatives, strong protectives and random other roles I think all make more sense than a N0 rolecop. Perhaps if there are only 6 other strong roles out there, then sure, but from what I've seen of Alexa's role, I don't see it as so powerful that Mafia would have definitely taken it. So, that part doesn't really work out...

Now, I don't see how Nutella saying roles are not tied to alignment makes it likely that it was option B. If town!Nutella got a scummy-looking role, then they would know that scummy-looking roles can be given to town, no? So this is at best a confbias read you're pushing on Nutella and at worst a chance for you to flame fans onto a spat.

The T/T case was from the assumption that roles are not tied to alignments. If Mafia didn't pick N0 rolecop then Alexa can't be Mafia meaning Nutella is probably Town from their reaction.
The W/W case Neeko still thinks is valid, but will give you that maybe she's wrong about Nutella being more likely to be Mafia with that comment.

The T/T case was under the assumption that the mafia coach chose players, not roles. If they chose players, then roles are entirely NAI. Why can't Alexa be mafia in this situation? Why can't Alexa be town and Nutella is actually scum with a scummy role?

Depending on the full strength of Alexa's role, then yes, it might be a role mafia would chose, but I kinda doubt anything with a N0 check is going to have daily checks or anything like that as it just seems super OP in a way that doesn't really make sense (rolecop is a common role, but I've never seen one with a N0 check), so the w/w case is questionable at best. And yes, I don't really see how you're assigning AI to Nutella from this case.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:53 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:50 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:46 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.

This is extremely NAI for Creature

honestly that whole alison post reads as scum casing town

Nah. Alison being guns blazing like this is townie and maybe this is the weakest point in the case but the rest is on the nose. Like the whole guilty conscience and 3p comment thing is pretty solid slam dunking imo.

The guilty was like half-serious. It was the best thing to push on at the time. It was that or wait for a magical case on someone.

But you weren't pushing on it, and this is my problem with what you said. You weren't going "I believe Alexa. Let's vote nutella out. /vote nutella". That would be pushing something, trying to get the ball rolling as town. Instead you said, "lol if nutella is salty that alexa caught her n0". This is not pushing something. This is insinuating, suggesting, provoking. It is an attempt to set nutella and alexa at each other's throats, and to more generally lend credence to the nutella wagon, without directly involving yourself or getting your hands dirty. That is why it is scummy.

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:55 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:52 pm Guillo feels tonally off to me and his vote on falcon was pingy

i didn't agree with his vote on falcon at all and it came when falcon was one of my first townleans but i don't think accuracy is a towntell for guillo? the way he came in guns ablazing to me and his approach to my stuff on nutella felt like that i expect of town guillo but uh... i'm aware i may not be able to read him

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:17 pm early take is that Seanzie is probably wolfing imo

Sabie had an odd opener but i haven't read any additional posts from her

why?

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:51 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:49 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.

This is extremely NAI for Creature

Are the other parts of my case NAI for him, too?

Fluff posts are NAI

Whatever the derp thing you mean is NAI because you don't need to put stock on them

The flame fanning or whatever could just be town trying to push something

It's true, I don't need to put stock in the derptells. But I think you're the kind of player who would be a lot more likely to try to derpclear yourself as scum than as town.

Flame fanning - okay. What were you trying to push, and what did you gain from those pushes? Can you elaborate on your Seanzie read?

I tend to ask before reading as both alignments.

Also, I don't need to come up with a report for every push I try to make. I just keep mental notes of how players reacted to them that may be used later in the game when I have a list of names I want to sort.

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:56 pm Can people stop posting fake derps for ten seconds please

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:58 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:51 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:49 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.

This is extremely NAI for Creature

Are the other parts of my case NAI for him, too?

Fluff posts are NAI

Whatever the derp thing you mean is NAI because you don't need to put stock on them

The flame fanning or whatever could just be town trying to push something

It's true, I don't need to put stock in the derptells. But I think you're the kind of player who would be a lot more likely to try to derpclear yourself as scum than as town.

Flame fanning - okay. What were you trying to push, and what did you gain from those pushes? Can you elaborate on your Seanzie read?

I tend to ask before reading as both alignments.

Also, I don't need to come up with a report for every push I try to make. I just keep mental notes of how players reacted to them that may be used later in the game when I have a list of names I want to sort.

Please transcribe these mental notes for us.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:56 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:48 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:41 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:06 pm OK, so Neeko's current theory.
Neeko's role makes her agree with Nutella roles and alignments might not be tied down.
If Mafia chose roles why not take N0 rolecop? So Mafia either chose players and forwent N0 rolecop meaning Alexa and Nutella are both Town.

In the case that Mafia chose players, I don't see how you are concluding Alexa and Nutella are both town. Mafia chosing players doesn't seem to actually have any connection with the conclusion you're drawing here. Are you saying that Alexa and Nutella would not be chosen? Considering that Alexa was literally a wolf in a wolf-win champs finale, I think Alexa is a very natural candidate for wolves to choose, and while I think Nutella has a stronger town game than wolf game, they aren't a bad wolf, so they also could be wolf here. This t/t case makes no sense IMO.

OR
Mafia chose roles and took N0 rolecop using it to find roles quicker. Mafia probably wouldn't say they have a N0 rolecop on who they actually checked meaning Nutella and Alexa are probably both Mafia pretending with a gambit.
Nutella suggesting roles are not tied to alignment to Neeko makes it more likely option B was what happened and Nutella knew roles were not randomly assigned alignments.

This case also doesn't really make sense IMO. First off, there is exactly one soup kill and the wolves need to sacrifice a wolf in order to use it, so it will likely only be used late game. There may be many very strong roles, so a single N0 rolecop that can't be used until late game. Vig shots, strong investigatives, strong protectives and random other roles I think all make more sense than a N0 rolecop. Perhaps if there are only 6 other strong roles out there, then sure, but from what I've seen of Alexa's role, I don't see it as so powerful that Mafia would have definitely taken it. So, that part doesn't really work out...

Now, I don't see how Nutella saying roles are not tied to alignment makes it likely that it was option B. If town!Nutella got a scummy-looking role, then they would know that scummy-looking roles can be given to town, no? So this is at best a confbias read you're pushing on Nutella and at worst a chance for you to flame fans onto a spat.

The T/T case was from the assumption that roles are not tied to alignments. If Mafia didn't pick N0 rolecop then Alexa can't be Mafia meaning Nutella is probably Town from their reaction.
The W/W case Neeko still thinks is valid, but will give you that maybe she's wrong about Nutella being more likely to be Mafia with that comment.

The T/T case was under the assumption that the mafia coach chose players, not roles. If they chose players, then roles are entirely NAI. Why can't Alexa be mafia in this situation? Why can't Alexa be town and Nutella is actually scum with a scummy role?

Depending on the full strength of Alexa's role, then yes, it might be a role mafia would chose, but I kinda doubt anything with a N0 check is going to have daily checks or anything like that as it just seems super OP in a way that doesn't really make sense (rolecop is a common role, but I've never seen one with a N0 check), so the w/w case is questionable at best. And yes, I don't really see how you're assigning AI to Nutella from this case.

OK, admittedly. Neeko did not think of the situation where Mafia chose Alexa and Alexa randed into N0 Rolecop.
But not sure why Mafia wouldn't just take N0 cop with soup?
So Alexa is just always Mafia then and can't be Town.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:55 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pm Wow we really are voting out LP

I mean we're only a few hours into the day? This doesn't feel like a real contribution.

What is your read on LP? Who do you think we should be voting?

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:55 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:50 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:46 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:37 pm At no point does he contribute to the conversation. He does not add evidence to support any narrative. He does not refute the evidence or points that others have brought up. He does not, in fact, engage with the theories and accusations that have been thrown around the thread. He merely fuels the fire with provocative one-liners and moves on without explaining them.

This is extremely NAI for Creature

honestly that whole alison post reads as scum casing town

Nah. Alison being guns blazing like this is townie and maybe this is the weakest point in the case but the rest is on the nose. Like the whole guilty conscience and 3p comment thing is pretty solid slam dunking imo.

The guilty was like half-serious. It was the best thing to push on at the time. It was that or wait for a magical case on someone.

This isn't helping you

Why not?

Urist wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:43 pm Did anyone else see the part where linearpoint literally outed herself as mafia

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:56 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:23 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:20 pm For real though, alexa and nutella are doing nothing to dissuade my pre-game assumption that all or most of alexa/nutella/mac/alison are chosen wolves.

Let's get chopping.

nobody would choose me as a wolf lmao

What? How’s this work? Did wolves get to choose their team? Or just a few players

apparently there is a wolf captain and they either have the option to choose 6 people OR to choose all the mafia roles

also did not realize this

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:58 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:56 pm Can people stop posting fake derps for ten seconds please

Do wolves have a wolfchat?

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:56 pm Can people stop posting fake derps for ten seconds please

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:59 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:55 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:50 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:46 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pm

This is extremely NAI for Creature

honestly that whole alison post reads as scum casing town

Nah. Alison being guns blazing like this is townie and maybe this is the weakest point in the case but the rest is on the nose. Like the whole guilty conscience and 3p comment thing is pretty solid slam dunking imo.

The guilty was like half-serious. It was the best thing to push on at the time. It was that or wait for a magical case on someone.

This isn't helping you

Why not?

It's a bad post and not even defending the point I was emphasizing

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:43 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:32 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:31 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:29 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:41 pm I wish more things were happening.

Someone call someone mafia confidently.

You're Mafia

[VOTE: Sean] aubergine

Thanks, I really appreciate all the things you do for me.

I really don't feel I've done all that much for you, either negatively or positively

I mean you did just do exactly what I asked you to do?

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:58 pm There's a reason why they're mental notes

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:02 pm I’m giving you guys a freebie on one of my tells Since people struggle so hard to meta me lol even though I don’t think my meta should be that confusing but apparently it is

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:59 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:55 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:50 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:46 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:44 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:39 pm

This is extremely NAI for Creature

honestly that whole alison post reads as scum casing town

Nah. Alison being guns blazing like this is townie and maybe this is the weakest point in the case but the rest is on the nose. Like the whole guilty conscience and 3p comment thing is pretty solid slam dunking imo.

The guilty was like half-serious. It was the best thing to push on at the time. It was that or wait for a magical case on someone.

This isn't helping you

Why not?

It's a bad post and not even defending the point I was emphasizing

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:01 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:58 pm There's a reason why they're mental notes

I have quoted posts that fanned the flames, and accused you of using those posts to try to set the town at each other's throats.

Your response is that you were using them as reaction tests to learn more about the alignments of other players, and that the results of these reaction tests are kept in your head as mental notes.

I am asking you to tell us what you have learned from these reaction tests so I can verify that you are not lying or making things up.

You have refused to do so, for no apparent reason, and attempted to redirect the conversation.

Either provide a clear, succinct, and verifiable reason why you cannot tell us what you have learned from the reaction tests you supposedly engaged in, or I will be forced to assume you are lying.

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:59 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:55 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:54 pm Wow we really are voting out LP

I mean we're only a few hours into the day? This doesn't feel like a real contribution.

What is your read on LP? Who do you think we should be voting?

i feel like you don't really believe in the aura of this post and are going after tony just because you can?

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:00 pm

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:56 pm Can people stop posting fake derps for ten seconds please

tbh i do not think waza is faking this, based on what i know of him, like it's not something he can easily fake, but maybe i'm biased because i'm a villager and i was confused too by people's initial comments and just didn't read the OP remotely