[Mafia Win] Tongue-Tied Mafia

[Roxy]

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This read is bad

Was Dennis pure then?

Was Dennis pure then?

Odds

ARE

That if so...

Then OPENs

Up to ROXY and DENNIS

But no, that doesn't make sense.

Surely you don't feel that Roxy and Dennis

Are BOTH in the PoE still.

That would be...

So lovely...

I’m confused by what you are saying here

One W on Dennis.

Who was that?

Be careful or they'll use a bat

One W on Pyxxy.

Who was that?

Be careful or they'll make you flat

One W floating free.

Who was that?

Be careful or they'll make you DEAD

Point 1 is ONLY impossible if there's a

W Dennis or

A 2nd on Pyxxy

The 2nd

Hoho ho...

The 2nd on Pyxxy

Is likely

Roxy.

again why? What makes you single me out? Why do you think I am bad.
I don't think wolves were anywhere near pyxxy's wagon.
Why?
Bc they knew they were town. Thats what makes me look everywhere but the Pyxxy voters.

[DrWilgy]

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This read is bad

Was Dennis pure then?

Was Dennis pure then?

Odds

ARE

That if so...

Then OPENs

Up to ROXY and DENNIS

But no, that doesn't make sense.

Surely you don't feel that Roxy and Dennis

Are BOTH in the PoE still.

That would be...

So lovely...

I’m confused by what you are saying here

One W on Dennis.

Who was that?

Be careful or they'll use a bat

One W on Pyxxy.

Who was that?

Be careful or they'll make you flat

One W floating free.

Who was that?

Be careful or they'll make you DEAD

Point 1 is ONLY impossible if there's a

W Dennis or

A 2nd on Pyxxy

The 2nd

Hoho ho...

The 2nd on Pyxxy

Is likely

Roxy.

again why? What makes you single me out? Why do you think I am bad.
I don't think wolves were anywhere near pyxxy's wagon.
Why?
Bc they knew they were town. Thats what makes me look everywhere but the Pyxxy voters.

Wolves must YEET town.

Pyxxy made it easy to do.

You and Porscha hold wolf weight.

You because you positioned your suspicion towards Splints rather than the accusor Pyxxy.

[DrWilgy]

Not much to catch up on - my kind of game <3

I have some thoughts but I'd like to hear splints response to this question:

splintsy - what do you make of pyxxy's calling you townish yesterday with your 3 posts of nothingness (no offense mine were the same ) but then today you got moved down a tier, I stayed the same but Wigleys went from being voted for as a baddie by pyxxy to the top tier and is now being called town?
Also how many games have you played with pyxxy that they could read you in 3 posts?

This post.

Specifically was wolfy.

Your posture being towards Splints makes this more likely a pocket vs an actual means to assess Pyxxy who we now know as town.

[Roxy]

@DrWilgy I don't understand your groupings or why you did not think to include Dennis or falcon.
I gave my list yesterday you have since jumped onto my Porscha is bad so you must agree with some of my thoughts.

[DrWilgy]

@DrWilgy I don't understand your groupings or why you did not think to include Dennis or falcon.
I gave my list yesterday you have since jumped onto my Porscha is bad so you must agree with some of my thoughts.

It is

Quite literally

The wagons and who voted on them

Group 1. Dennis voters.

Group 2. Free voters.

Group 3. Pyxxy voters.

W in each makes sense does it not?

[hollowkatt]

Pyxxy I have said my thoughts on, this is incredibly out of pyxxy's normal play and the super weird part is that they are still consistently posting and just like ignoring everyone. Has anyone played with wolf pyxxy and can they talk about this please

Hk still is off to me, because in scooby doo which is the only game I remember playing they were much more into it. Like so far from hk it has pretty much only been "mk" sorta posts

Lemonfairy is the same as hk

Porscha is more jokey, less serious than what I've seen from town porscha

Has falcon even said anything?

Everyone else is OK with me for now

I mean, this is the first post of substance I see in Dennis' ISO and idk, it looks pretty good
there's thoughts, it doesn't feel forced, there's no sense of having an underlying purpose behind it

it's not a bad post but it is pretty basic and shouldn't be the root cause for a town read b/c like a competent wolf should be able to make that 100 times out of 100 given that it's basically entirely meta as in "x is not the same as last time I saw x" but there's very little in the way of conclusion or what I like to call Actionable Thoughts.

[Dennis]

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If I were dennis and I would I would 100% do this only I'd have done it N1 because it's funny AF.

Also I kinda agree Porscha looking kinda sus

For why is porcsha looking sus? Like was there anything specific

D1 is basically devoid of self-generated content. Lots of questions that don't go anywhere. I know they're moving house today so a lack of presence is fine with me. I'm sure Porscha will check in when she can. But yeah mostly it's that her D1 is really really not great.

Funky feelings from this

Kinda reminds me of what I did with dunya in Scooby-Doo, where she disappeared and I tried to get her yeeted

[Roxy]

Not much to catch up on - my kind of game <3

I have some thoughts but I'd like to hear splints response to this question:

splintsy - what do you make of pyxxy's calling you townish yesterday with your 3 posts of nothingness (no offense mine were the same ) but then today you got moved down a tier, I stayed the same but Wigleys went from being voted for as a baddie by pyxxy to the top tier and is now being called town?
Also how many games have you played with pyxxy that they could read you in 3 posts?

This post.

Specifically was wolfy.

Your posture being towards Splints makes this more likely a pocket vs an actual means to assess Pyxxy who we now know as town.

damn right I'm going to ask splints about pyxxy bc pyxxy was not responding to anyone.

splints has played more with you all than I have I thought she might have some insight. I don't have to pocket splints we are already friends and have played many times together. I don't play pocket pool like all the new players do I play my old standard way. Sorry if you can't understand my questioning of splints to assess pyxxy as they were not responding I was just trying to get a handle on their playstyle.

[hollowkatt]

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If I were dennis and I would I would 100% do this only I'd have done it N1 because it's funny AF.

Also I kinda agree Porscha looking kinda sus

For why is porcsha looking sus? Like was there anything specific

D1 is basically devoid of self-generated content. Lots of questions that don't go anywhere. I know they're moving house today so a lack of presence is fine with me. I'm sure Porscha will check in when she can. But yeah mostly it's that her D1 is really really not great.

Funky feelings from this

Kinda reminds me of what I did with dunya in Scooby-Doo, where she disappeared and I tried to get her yeeted

I also tried to yeet dunya into the sun that game. That being said do you disagree with my assessment of Porschas posting thus far?

[hollowkatt]

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine
getting it down here for the record.

[Roxy]

@DrWilgy I don't understand your groupings or why you did not think to include Dennis or falcon.
I gave my list yesterday you have since jumped onto my Porscha is bad so you must agree with some of my thoughts.

It is

Quite literally

The wagons and who voted on them

Group 1. Dennis voters.

Group 2. Free voters.

Group 3. Pyxxy voters.

W in each makes sense does it not?

nope not when you do no include everyone in the analysis. How can you analyze a elim without looking at ALL the voters?

[hollowkatt]

roxy posting with a spicy tone makes me want to feel good things about them

[DrWilgy]

Not much to catch up on - my kind of game <3

I have some thoughts but I'd like to hear splints response to this question:

splintsy - what do you make of pyxxy's calling you townish yesterday with your 3 posts of nothingness (no offense mine were the same ) but then today you got moved down a tier, I stayed the same but Wigleys went from being voted for as a baddie by pyxxy to the top tier and is now being called town?
Also how many games have you played with pyxxy that they could read you in 3 posts?

This post.

Specifically was wolfy.

Your posture being towards Splints makes this more likely a pocket vs an actual means to assess Pyxxy who we now know as town.

damn right I'm going to ask splints about pyxxy bc pyxxy was not responding to anyone.

splints has played more with you all than I have I thought she might have some insight. I don't have to pocket splints we are already friends and have played many times together. I don't play pocket pool like all the new players do I play my old standard way. Sorry if you can't understand my questioning of splints to assess pyxxy as they were not responding I was just trying to get a handle on their playstyle.

Fallacy: Assuming one cannot pocket friends

Error in motivation: "Sorry if you can't understand" shows adversarial behavior. One would think town would be more inclined to attempt to make me understand, rather than setting a preface for it not happening.

[DrWilgy]

@DrWilgy I don't understand your groupings or why you did not think to include Dennis or falcon.
I gave my list yesterday you have since jumped onto my Porscha is bad so you must agree with some of my thoughts.

It is

Quite literally

The wagons and who voted on them

Group 1. Dennis voters.

Group 2. Free voters.

Group 3. Pyxxy voters.

W in each makes sense does it not?

nope not when you do no include everyone in the analysis. How can you analyze a elim without looking at ALL the voters?

Hahaha

The analysis was on all voters.

Presented was my conclusion as to where the W would be able to be found.

Dennis - town EV - had 3 voters. Likely enough place for a wolf.

Pyxxy vs Town EV Dennis was likely tvt

This a wolf being on a vanity wagon makes sense. See Lemon.

Lastly Pyxxy was town. Most likely a W there as well.

[DrWilgy]

roxy posting with a spicy tone makes me want to feel good things about them

Last time Roxy got spicy with me, I was pushing their wolf teammate SVS.

[Roxy]

@DrWilgy
Pyxxy was not responding

I asked splints for her take

I fail to understand why you are questioning someone who was trying to make sense of wtf pyxxy was doing.

I am not being "adversarial" I am playing mafia.

[DrWilgy]

My script to modify my messages broke.

Sad.

[Roxy]

yay, I think it was hurting my read of you bc I am still not sure about you when usually I can be on D 1

[DrWilgy]

@DrWilgy
Pyxxy was not responding

I asked splints for her take

I fail to understand why you are questioning someone who was trying to make sense of wtf pyxxy was doing.

I am not being "adversarial" I am playing mafia.

Aye, and in playing Mafia one must gauge motivation based on vernacular.

The stance of "I'm sorry if you don't understand" is very different from "how can I help you and the thread understand". I have a tendency to think one is more W aligned than the other, but admit to not being the best judge of that.

In Pyxxy not responding, did you actually attempt to interface with them? In your ISO, you only quote Pyxxy once and that was after you spoke to Splints.

Nor does your read evolve as Pyxxy's did.

[Roxy]

@DrWilgy
Pyxxy was not responding

I asked splints for her take

I fail to understand why you are questioning someone who was trying to make sense of wtf pyxxy was doing.

I am not being "adversarial" I am playing mafia.

Aye, and in playing Mafia one must gauge motivation based on vernacular.

The stance of "I'm sorry if you don't understand" is very different from "how can I help you and the thread understand". I have a tendency to think one is more W aligned than the other, but admit to not being the best judge of that.

In Pyxxy not responding, did you actually attempt to interface with them? In your ISO, you only quote Pyxxy once and that was after you spoke to Splints.

Nor does your read evolve as Pyxxy's did.

No I did not interface bc I am not a computer.
Neon questioned them twice and got no response.
Why would I waste my precious time on someone who won't respond when I am limited to the amount of time I can play?
pyxxy's list changed dramatically over the day with no reasons or actual words to help ANYONE understand their motivations. How did that help the town?
Oh it couldn't bc there was nothing there to help.

PS your thoughts on falcon since he was not included on any of your vote lists.

[Roxy]

unfortunately my time is up today. I have meetings all day from here on out. bbl or tomorrow.

[DrWilgy]

@DrWilgy
Pyxxy was not responding

I asked splints for her take

I fail to understand why you are questioning someone who was trying to make sense of wtf pyxxy was doing.

I am not being "adversarial" I am playing mafia.

Aye, and in playing Mafia one must gauge motivation based on vernacular.

The stance of "I'm sorry if you don't understand" is very different from "how can I help you and the thread understand". I have a tendency to think one is more W aligned than the other, but admit to not being the best judge of that.

In Pyxxy not responding, did you actually attempt to interface with them? In your ISO, you only quote Pyxxy once and that was after you spoke to Splints.

Nor does your read evolve as Pyxxy's did.

No I did not interface bc I am not a computer.
Neon questioned them twice and got no response.
Why would I waste my precious time on someone who won't respond when I am limited to the amount of time I can play?
pyxxy's list changed dramatically over the day with no reasons or actual words to help ANYONE understand their motivations. How did that help the town?
Oh it couldn't bc there was nothing there to help.

PS your thoughts on falcon since he was not included on any of your vote lists.

The thing is, both Sig and I came to the conclusion that it was likely not W aligned. What was the explanation for Pyxxy doing as Pyxxy was doing from a W perspective? There was no agenda being pushed and there was not a single person going out of their way to protect them.

Falcon is likely town. I should go back and reassess based on his play of Scooby Doo, but I don't think he's slanking in the same way.

Also the HK wagon seems like it's the one most likely to be pure, unless I'm wrong on Dennis's alignment.

[DrWilgy]

unfortunately my time is up today. I have meetings all day from here on out. bbl or tomorrow.

God speed you!

[hollowkatt]

roxy posting with a spicy tone makes me want to feel good things about them

Last time Roxy got spicy with me, I was pushing their wolf teammate SVS.

good to know. I was coming at it from the "I can get spicy when pushed as town so maybe Roxy does as well"

[fingersplints]

I really hope some people post why they are voting Roxy soon, because I don’t get that suspicion at all.

What is your read on me?
Who are your suspicions revolving around?

Town
I’m working on where I stand with people. As you know I tend to try to figure out how I feel about a few players first then continue to work off my feelings on the one who are left.
More coming

[fingersplints]

roxy posting with a spicy tone makes me want to feel good things about them

Last time Roxy got spicy with me, I was pushing their wolf teammate SVS.

good to know. I was coming at it from the "I can get spicy when pushed as town so maybe Roxy does as well"

Roxy has a little spice to her always. I’d say it’s NAI
What I do disagree with is the idea that she was trying to “pocket me”. I just don’t see that. It wouldn’t make sense for a w Rox to engage with me that way. I know her better than most. She wouldn’t specifically call my attention to her like that.

[hollowkatt]

whats your hottest hot take fingersplints?

[fingersplints]

So I feel ok about Roxy, and I feel ok about falcon. It’s mostly a tone read by the nature of his questions.

I’d say probably Dennis and lemonfairy as townleans.

Everyone else is unsure atm

[fingersplints]

whats your hottest hot take fingersplints?

I wish I had some hot takes. I’ll let you know when one comes to me

As for now back to the kids

[hollowkatt]

So I feel ok about Roxy, and I feel ok about falcon. It’s mostly a tone read by the nature of his questions.

I’d say probably Dennis and lemonfairy as townleans.

Everyone else is unsure atm

whats your hottest hot take fingersplints?

I wish I had some hot takes. I’ll let you know when one comes to me

As for now back to the kids

cool. what makes lemonfairy a town lean for you?

[Lemonfairy]

Fairy of lemons might be trying to pocket me here but I distinctly remember playing with them once and I think they might just talk like this

I'm gonna doublecheck

trying to metaread me from 1 other game where I slank posted is a great idea (sarcasm)

[Dennis]

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If I were dennis and I would I would 100% do this only I'd have done it N1 because it's funny AF.

Also I kinda agree Porscha looking kinda sus

For why is porcsha looking sus? Like was there anything specific

D1 is basically devoid of self-generated content. Lots of questions that don't go anywhere. I know they're moving house today so a lack of presence is fine with me. I'm sure Porscha will check in when she can. But yeah mostly it's that her D1 is really really not great.

Funky feelings from this

Kinda reminds me of what I did with dunya in Scooby-Doo, where she disappeared and I tried to get her yeeted

I also tried to yeet dunya into the sun that game. That being said do you disagree with my assessment of Porschas posting thus far?

Felt weird about them too, but I still want D2 content before I make a solid read

I don't want to vote them, but low posters tend to be a hard spot for me because I can't just change my read soo.. yah I me want more

[Lemonfairy]

also how did you read that as me trying to pocket you?
townread = pocket?

[Lemonfairy]

Doubt it means anything actually

this is the correct take

[Lemonfairy]

Cuz wolves could've easily stayed off...why start w/ Roxy?

why not?

[Lemonfairy]

I was going to answer more replies but looks like it'll have to wait until I get off work
sigh

[falcon45ca]

Cuz wolves could've easily stayed off...why start w/ Roxy?

why not?

Oh, well then by that token let's start with you



[VOTE: lemon] aubergine

[Porscha]

I still think Dennis doesn't look great so I wonder who was the deciding vote.

oh
why does Dennis look bad?

also if I go by the screen shot, looks like the deciding vote was Porscha?

I was the first person to vote pyxxy (for no particular reason other than for reactions, like my first vote on falcon) but then I couldnt get back to the game and he flipped anyway zz

[Dennis]

My script to modify my messages broke.

Sad.

Frowns

[Porscha]

@Lemonfairy @DrWilgy What's up with the vanity wagons?

Vanity?

My oh my.

You think my vote was Vanity?

I was not

er...

I was unable to be there for EoD.

Heheheh.

Sig

Said it correctly that

PYXXY was not

Wolf.

I found.

Porscha

And Kate

To be suspect.

Oh how wonderful it was...

To realize I was wrong

On KATE.

However.

PORSCHA , dear friend of mine.

Is still WOLFY

*stammers* I... I... would never!

*clears throat* ahem, let me try to speak in a *way* that *you* might understand, Special One

In these ~worlds~ we live in, where I, Porscha am the same COLOR OF HEART as sweet Kate

on the PyXXy wagon,,,,,,,,.....,,,,,,,,,

Our EYES should be piercing the depths of Roxy and Fingersplints

So what do your SpEcIaL eYeS *SEE*

Doctor?????

[Porscha]

(Also however tho uuuh yes the pyxxy wagon could have been pure)

[Porscha]

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Lol I hate reading the font in a voice in my brain

Anyway no reason to kill kate cuz she was tr'ing him

[Porscha]

@Lemonfairy @DrWilgy What's up with the vanity wagons?

Vanity?

My oh my.

You think my vote was Vanity?

I was not

er...

I was unable to be there for EoD.

Heheheh.

Sig

Said it correctly that

PYXXY was not

Wolf.

I found.

Porscha

And Kate

To be suspect.

Oh how wonderful it was...

To realize I was wrong

On KATE.

However.

PORSCHA , dear friend of mine.

Is still WOLFY

Why Porscha?

Below is a highly classified document as to why Porscha also known as SCP-673998-p.

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Item #: SCP-673998-p

Object Class: Keter

SCP-673998-p, also known as Porscha, is an anomalous entity that was first discovered in 19██. This SCP is a humanoid figure that stands at approximately 1.8 meters tall, with an extremely slender build and elongated limbs. Its skin appears to be made of a black, reflective material that is impervious to most forms of physical damage. Despite its lack of facial features, Porscha is capable of communicating with humans through a variety of means, but primarily via web forum based games of Mafia or Werewolf.

Porscha's anomalous properties manifest primarily in its ability to manipulate reality in various ways. This SCP is able to alter the properties of objects and materials in its vicinity, allowing it to create and manipulate a wide range of phenomena. For example, Porscha has been observed creating and manipulating ████, water, and even the fabric of spacetime itself. The extent of Porscha's abilities is not fully understood, as the SCP has proven to be highly resistant to containment and study.

Despite its formidable abilities, Porscha appears to be primarily interested in observing and interacting with humans. It has been known to approach individuals and engage in conversation, often asking questions about human emotions and experiences. Porscha seems particularly interested in human relationships and has been observed observing romantic couples and families.

The Foundation has made several attempts to contain and study Porscha, but these efforts have been largely unsuccessful. Porscha has proven to be highly resistant to most forms of physical restraint and has repeatedly demonstrated its ability to manipulate its environment to escape containment. The SCP's anomalous properties also make it difficult to study, as its effects can be unpredictable and difficult to control.

Despite these challenges, the Foundation continues to study Porscha in the hopes of better understanding its anomalous properties and motivations. Several theories have been proposed regarding the SCP's origins and nature, but none have been confirmed. Some researchers believe that Porscha may be an extraterrestrial entity, while others believe it may be a manifestation of a human collective unconscious.

Overall, SCP-673998-p is a highly unusual and enigmatic entity that presents significant challenges to containment and study. Its anomalous abilities and apparent curiosity about humans make it a fascinating subject for research, but also a potentially dangerous one. The Foundation will continue to monitor Porscha's activities and seek to better understand its nature and origins.

In other words,

Porscha failed to express any form of genuine suspicion, and poised a reaction test that amounted to nothing but attempting to look like a normal civilian.

:wowee:

I am laughing but have no words

[Dennis]

also how did you read that as me trying to pocket you?
townread = pocket?

Further towards the start you were just like "oh its bcuz his posts are towny" which sets off the pocket alarm in my head

But you gave a more concrete reason later so I changed my mind

[Porscha]

But to attest, I really didnt have suspicion of anyone yesterday and I dont feel like most people have much suspicion either except for on low posting slots like roxy and fs. Which is fine for lack of content but other than that idk where to go

[Porscha]

If only Strange Entity Porscha could use its powers to find wolves v_v

[Porscha]

One in

Sig, HK, Neon

One in

Lemonfairy

One in

Roxy, Kate, Splints, Porscha

Oh wolves

Did you think you could allude me?

Did you think that I'd let you escape

My eyes see all

For I know only truths.

I have the passion of justice burning within my

HEART.

O'Wolf team!

O'Porscha

O'Lemonfairy

O'HK

You shall feel the firm hand of justice upon you as I undo your wicked schemes!

For I am the hero of this story and you shall be my lovely rivals!

Feel free to keep SR'ing me, I do particularly enjoy your attention

(We should probably use the hands of justice to find wolves together though)

[Porscha]

also how did you read that as me trying to pocket you?
townread = pocket?

Further towards the start you were just like "oh its bcuz his posts are towny" which sets off the pocket alarm in my head

But you gave a more concrete reason later so I changed my mind

Dennis why do you think kate was nk'd

[fingersplints]

So I feel ok about Roxy, and I feel ok about falcon. It’s mostly a tone read by the nature of his questions.

I’d say probably Dennis and lemonfairy as townleans.

Everyone else is unsure atm

whats your hottest hot take fingersplints?

I wish I had some hot takes. I’ll let you know when one comes to me

As for now back to the kids

cool. what makes lemonfairy a town lean for you?

I remember there being a post I kind of liked. Gonna have to look back later to find it for you.
It’s not a strong town lean that’s for sure. More like a gth leaning town right now

[Dennis]

Fairy of lemons might be trying to pocket me here but I distinctly remember playing with them once and I think they might just talk like this

I'm gonna doublecheck

trying to metaread me from 1 other game where I slank posted is a great idea (sarcasm)

Frowns

I wasn't trying to meta read you I was trying to see how you normally talk. Like how I use the word "like" unnecessarily a lot

I just didn't wanna take your laid back sorta tone the wrong way