The Syndicate

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:05 am That's egregious

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:16 am

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:54 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:48 am

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:47 am wilgy knows in a battle of wim he'll always out-class me, since I don't duel with wall-posts and structured paragraphs

but this is him wolfing

What's the difference between Wilgy town and Wilgy wolf?

I know this is the current modus operandi of mafia on MU and TS, where everything boils down to claims that we know the differences between someone being town and wolf because people are reliably consistent and they only ever do x as town and y as wolf, but I should inform you and probably everyone else that I'm not going to engage in an argument about meta, because it's not reliable, it's rarely true, and people hide in it all the time

wilgy is a wolf because he's establishing an agenda/worldview that everyone else is now rotating around. he's set the terms and conditions for everyone else's casing, their arguments. he's set it up so that there's uncontested wolf-claims against people who are just outright afk, and then set up easy mischops for later days by picking holes in every little thing someone says with posts that pretend at reason, both of which will be looked at by others as Villager Effort and as a reason to wolf-read the people he nitpicked

Now that you know it's Wilgy town, and you can reverse the polarity on this negative read, what do you think of Wilgy's 'worldview/agenda'?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:06 am Anyways hi

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:58 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:05 am That's egregious

I know, right?

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:32 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:06 am Anyways hi

hello

would u like to play now

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:36 am

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:32 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:06 am Anyways hi

hello

would u like to play now

No probably not tbh

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:36 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:58 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 3:05 am That's egregious

I know, right?

Even I knew Wilgy was town and I read like 3 pages

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:27 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:16 am

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:54 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:48 am

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:47 am wilgy knows in a battle of wim he'll always out-class me, since I don't duel with wall-posts and structured paragraphs

but this is him wolfing

What's the difference between Wilgy town and Wilgy wolf?

I know this is the current modus operandi of mafia on MU and TS, where everything boils down to claims that we know the differences between someone being town and wolf because people are reliably consistent and they only ever do x as town and y as wolf, but I should inform you and probably everyone else that I'm not going to engage in an argument about meta, because it's not reliable, it's rarely true, and people hide in it all the time

wilgy is a wolf because he's establishing an agenda/worldview that everyone else is now rotating around. he's set the terms and conditions for everyone else's casing, their arguments. he's set it up so that there's uncontested wolf-claims against people who are just outright afk, and then set up easy mischops for later days by picking holes in every little thing someone says with posts that pretend at reason, both of which will be looked at by others as Villager Effort and as a reason to wolf-read the people he nitpicked

Now that you know it's Wilgy town, and you can reverse the polarity on this negative read, what do you think of Wilgy's 'worldview/agenda'?

it's still not great tbh. him being town and also pushing that world/approach confuses me, unless he had some kind of plan to switcheroo in the following days

of course, him picking holes in every little thing someone says, as a villager, would be useful now/later

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:47 am

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:27 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:16 am

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:54 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:48 am

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:47 am wilgy knows in a battle of wim he'll always out-class me, since I don't duel with wall-posts and structured paragraphs

but this is him wolfing

What's the difference between Wilgy town and Wilgy wolf?

I know this is the current modus operandi of mafia on MU and TS, where everything boils down to claims that we know the differences between someone being town and wolf because people are reliably consistent and they only ever do x as town and y as wolf, but I should inform you and probably everyone else that I'm not going to engage in an argument about meta, because it's not reliable, it's rarely true, and people hide in it all the time

wilgy is a wolf because he's establishing an agenda/worldview that everyone else is now rotating around. he's set the terms and conditions for everyone else's casing, their arguments. he's set it up so that there's uncontested wolf-claims against people who are just outright afk, and then set up easy mischops for later days by picking holes in every little thing someone says with posts that pretend at reason, both of which will be looked at by others as Villager Effort and as a reason to wolf-read the people he nitpicked

Now that you know it's Wilgy town, and you can reverse the polarity on this negative read, what do you think of Wilgy's 'worldview/agenda'?

it's still not great tbh. him being town and also pushing that world/approach confuses me, unless he had some kind of plan to switcheroo in the following days

of course, him picking holes in every little thing someone says, as a villager, would be useful now/later

I don't understand, why are you allergic at solving low posters D1, going instead for the top poster?
His worldview was exactly what this game needed.
Now if Abi doesn't want to post we lose a day chopping her at one moment except we let her until lylo and pray for the correct solve of the alive villagers at the moment.

Mafia would let town!Abi alive especially for that, also if she is a baddie her partner will do anything to push the game in the opposite direction.

Both you and Sig choose me and Wilgy as main pushes and both me and Wilgy were skeptical about your intentions.
If Abi is town you both TMIed her town, and wanted her alive over Wilgy to get rid of a game solver and have the perfect push for late game. About Sig, I can understand the vote on a counter wagon, but Wilgy was so obvious town that his vote on Wilgy is just horrible

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:57 am
From what I can tell, both Spacedaisy and Lime Coke thought they were breaking a three-way tie, or at least deciding the result?

If either Abi or sig are a Wolf, then it looks suspicious, but if they're both town, it's somewhat clearing, I think. Would a Wolf see a three-way Town tie and call attention to themselves as the decider?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:57 am Yeah, I'm feeling like suspecting daisy for that vote is putting the cart before the horse. As in, it's only suspicious if Abi or sig are wolves.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:36 pm Actually, no I misread that. I think it was falcon he was annoyed with and I can see why. sig was joking with Epi and says he was fluff posting and falcon seemed to be making a big deal out of it. I'm not sure I get what falcon meant.

The only weird thing I see with sig is actually just the fact that he is pinged by Epi for not joking, when he was even joking with Epi himself.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:49 am Good news I'm town

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:21 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:47 am

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:27 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:16 am

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:54 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:48 am

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:47 am wilgy knows in a battle of wim he'll always out-class me, since I don't duel with wall-posts and structured paragraphs

but this is him wolfing

What's the difference between Wilgy town and Wilgy wolf?

I know this is the current modus operandi of mafia on MU and TS, where everything boils down to claims that we know the differences between someone being town and wolf because people are reliably consistent and they only ever do x as town and y as wolf, but I should inform you and probably everyone else that I'm not going to engage in an argument about meta, because it's not reliable, it's rarely true, and people hide in it all the time

wilgy is a wolf because he's establishing an agenda/worldview that everyone else is now rotating around. he's set the terms and conditions for everyone else's casing, their arguments. he's set it up so that there's uncontested wolf-claims against people who are just outright afk, and then set up easy mischops for later days by picking holes in every little thing someone says with posts that pretend at reason, both of which will be looked at by others as Villager Effort and as a reason to wolf-read the people he nitpicked

Now that you know it's Wilgy town, and you can reverse the polarity on this negative read, what do you think of Wilgy's 'worldview/agenda'?

it's still not great tbh. him being town and also pushing that world/approach confuses me, unless he had some kind of plan to switcheroo in the following days

of course, him picking holes in every little thing someone says, as a villager, would be useful now/later

I don't understand, why are you allergic at solving low posters D1, going instead for the top poster?
His worldview was exactly what this game needed.
Now if Abi doesn't want to post we lose a day chopping her at one moment except we let her until lylo and pray for the correct solve of the alive villagers at the moment.

Mafia would let town!Abi alive especially for that, also if she is a baddie her partner will do anything to push the game in the opposite direction.

Both you and Sig choose me and Wilgy as main pushes and both me and Wilgy were skeptical about your intentions.
If Abi is town you both TMIed her town, and wanted her alive over Wilgy to get rid of a game solver and have the perfect push for late game. About Sig, I can understand the vote on a counter wagon, but Wilgy was so obvious town that his vote on Wilgy is just horrible

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:35 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:04 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:21 pm Town:
Michelle
LCx2
Falcon
Syn

Add SVS here maybe? Kinda liked the recent posts.

Right, so I just realized this plus me makes it 6.

If these 5 specifically are town then this game is basically a W for town.

It's like I'm a genius or something.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:50 am

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:21 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:47 am

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:27 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 2:16 am

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:54 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:48 am

What's the difference between Wilgy town and Wilgy wolf?

I know this is the current modus operandi of mafia on MU and TS, where everything boils down to claims that we know the differences between someone being town and wolf because people are reliably consistent and they only ever do x as town and y as wolf, but I should inform you and probably everyone else that I'm not going to engage in an argument about meta, because it's not reliable, it's rarely true, and people hide in it all the time

wilgy is a wolf because he's establishing an agenda/worldview that everyone else is now rotating around. he's set the terms and conditions for everyone else's casing, their arguments. he's set it up so that there's uncontested wolf-claims against people who are just outright afk, and then set up easy mischops for later days by picking holes in every little thing someone says with posts that pretend at reason, both of which will be looked at by others as Villager Effort and as a reason to wolf-read the people he nitpicked

Now that you know it's Wilgy town, and you can reverse the polarity on this negative read, what do you think of Wilgy's 'worldview/agenda'?

it's still not great tbh. him being town and also pushing that world/approach confuses me, unless he had some kind of plan to switcheroo in the following days

of course, him picking holes in every little thing someone says, as a villager, would be useful now/later

I don't understand, why are you allergic at solving low posters D1, going instead for the top poster?
His worldview was exactly what this game needed.
Now if Abi doesn't want to post we lose a day chopping her at one moment except we let her until lylo and pray for the correct solve of the alive villagers at the moment.

Mafia would let town!Abi alive especially for that, also if she is a baddie her partner will do anything to push the game in the opposite direction.

Both you and Sig choose me and Wilgy as main pushes and both me and Wilgy were skeptical about your intentions.
If Abi is town you both TMIed her town, and wanted her alive over Wilgy to get rid of a game solver and have the perfect push for late game. About Sig, I can understand the vote on a counter wagon, but Wilgy was so obvious town that his vote on Wilgy is just horrible

A real answer would be too much effort from you?

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:57 am Dw Roxy, I am not letting you down!

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:22 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:57 am
From what I can tell, both Spacedaisy and Lime Coke thought they were breaking a three-way tie, or at least deciding the result?

If either Abi or sig are a Wolf, then it looks suspicious, but if they're both town, it's somewhat clearing, I think. Would a Wolf see a three-way Town tie and call attention to themselves as the decider?

Daisys last post regarding Wilgy was a very vague kinda null read. Wilgy was supatowning from out the gate, and I think Daisy knows his game well.

Also "from what I can tell"~ how can you tell what Daisy was thinking? We won't know until she tells us, which she chose not to do.

Also if you find making a drive by vote to break a tie that results in the death of a civvie not suspicious, I congratulate you on your open mindedness

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:57 am Yeah, I'm feeling like suspecting daisy for that vote is putting the cart before the horse. As in, it's only suspicious if Abi or sig are wolves.

Yeah, well, as someone who voted sig cause I thought they were bad, and still thinks they're bad, I think the horse is right where it belongs.

If Daisy comes in and tells us why her viewpoint on Wilgy evolved enough to vote for him, I might then change my vote to sig. I need to go over Falcons interactions with him EOD day one.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:36 pm Actually, no I misread that. I think it was falcon he was annoyed with and I can see why. sig was joking with Epi and says he was fluff posting and falcon seemed to be making a big deal out of it. I'm not sure I get what falcon meant.

The only weird thing I see with sig is actually just the fact that he is pinged by Epi for not joking, when he was even joking with Epi himself.

This is Daisys actual last post, from Tuesday night, almost a full day before EOD. A lot happened in that time, much of it somewhat esoteric disagreements about mafia philosophy. Nothing that Wilgy has not said before in other games, and I think Daisy knows his game better than most. I reread Wilgy to see if there was anything that could have changed her mind from "meh" to voting him, and I couldn't find it.

Her last post, understanding why sig is annoyed with Falcon. Gotta get ready for work, stayed late last night, go in early today. Luckily the month ends only ... once a month lol.

But yeah, gonna reread sig with a focus on his interactions with Falcon.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:49 am Good news I'm town

I might believe that if you throw a juice box at me.

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:48 am @Epignosis - can you put together your reasoning for your votes? I find myself disagreeing with sul sul

@Long Con - do you think gimmick-y Epi is bad? Really? Have you seen this before? Is your Michelle read the same? I was wondering who your top two sus are.

@S~V~S - I feel like you are being helpful and I am agreeing with a lot of what you post which makes me nervous as I have been burned by your sweet, gentle natured style of playing. While my heart believes your civvie my hed say watch the F out!

@Michelle - yeah I feel about you the same way I feel about SVS except your style is more like - here it is!! answers naoplztku!! No room for squiggling. I feel v strongly you are town. Please DO NOT BETRAY MY VIBE!! Looking for your insights again today.

@☆Princess Abigail☆ - why sign up if you did not feel like playing? Are you trying for a more relaxed low posting style of play? If yes then you must still let us see your usual style through fewer posts - good luck bc I find your posts this game to be wanting and lacking substance of any kind. Not helpful to the town at all when you say stuff like - You do not feel like playing, you have no wim and that you will not be found town and said we should have solved you D 1. This does not feel like you are helping instead it feels like you are wanting to be elimmed and for me when someone wants to be elimmed I oblige. ot that it matters but I did expect something more from you, I know that is unfair but I cannot help how I feel.

@sig - you are v slippery for me to read like I want to call you town but your posts read otherwise half the time. I am going to wait and see how other og's treat ya to help me form a more solid read of you.

@Spacedaisy - damn girl I miss your old style and wish I had more to go off here but your posts coupled with that drive y vote has left me doubting your civvie-ness. I hope you can add more today. At least the reason for your vote and how you arrived at your decision.

@Lime Coke - I( do not think I have seen your town game. If I have it's been a minute but I do feel like you are trying to get into the game unlike last game where your posting was minimal as well as you making your thought process clear. I want to give you a chance this game but I will be watching.

@Syn - what is with your preferential treatment of PA but not Daisy or even Epi. They both have a lower post count than the Princess so what gives? Your playstyle this game is not feeling v good. Your vibe feels way off. I feel like you are usually a bit whimsical with your playstyle and I am not seeing any of that here. Looking forward to reading more and hoping for a better feel.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:39 am I signed up when I had wim

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:43 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:39 am I signed up when I had wim

Do you have any reads?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:38 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:48 am

Spoiler: show

@Epignosis - can you put together your reasoning for your votes? I find myself disagreeing with sul sul

@Long Con - do you think gimmick-y Epi is bad? Really? Have you seen this before? Is your Michelle read the same? I was wondering who your top two sus are.

@S~V~S - I feel like you are being helpful and I am agreeing with a lot of what you post which makes me nervous as I have been burned by your sweet, gentle natured style of playing. While my heart believes your civvie my hed say watch the F out!

@Michelle - yeah I feel about you the same way I feel about SVS except your style is more like - here it is!! answers naoplztku!! No room for squiggling. I feel v strongly you are town. Please DO NOT BETRAY MY VIBE!! Looking for your insights again today.

@☆Princess Abigail☆ - why sign up if you did not feel like playing? Are you trying for a more relaxed low posting style of play? If yes then you must still let us see your usual style through fewer posts - good luck bc I find your posts this game to be wanting and lacking substance of any kind. Not helpful to the town at all when you say stuff like - You do not feel like playing, you have no wim and that you will not be found town and said we should have solved you D 1. This does not feel like you are helping instead it feels like you are wanting to be elimmed and for me when someone wants to be elimmed I oblige. ot that it matters but I did expect something more from you, I know that is unfair but I cannot help how I feel.

Spoiler: show

@sig - you are v slippery for me to read like I want to call you town but your posts read otherwise half the time. I am going to wait and see how other og's treat ya to help me form a more solid read of you.

@Spacedaisy - damn girl I miss your old style and wish I had more to go off here but your posts coupled with that drive y vote has left me doubting your civvie-ness. I hope you can add more today. At least the reason for your vote and how you arrived at your decision.

@Lime Coke - I( do not think I have seen your town game. If I have it's been a minute but I do feel like you are trying to get into the game unlike last game where your posting was minimal as well as you making your thought process clear. I want to give you a chance this game but I will be watching.

@Syn - what is with your preferential treatment of PA but not Daisy or even Epi. They both have a lower post count than the Princess so what gives? Your playstyle this game is not feeling v good. Your vibe feels way off. I feel like you are usually a bit whimsical with your playstyle and I am not seeing any of that here. Looking forward to reading more and hoping for a better feel.

It's a dangerous game to assume that someone is mafia solely cause they've got low wim

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:49 am Bread Roxy you town

But all for weak ass reasons

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:54 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:49 am Bread Roxy you town

But all for weak ass reasons

oh I need way more than this but it is a start.

What are your weak ass reasons?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:58 am It doesn't feel too me like Michelle is trying to push an agenda wrt Wilgy wagon it just feels like real pure thoughts

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:01 am But like that would mean 1 maf was hard pushing Wigy while the other just decided "let's hidden vote at the last second on the same guy."

Which wouldn't make sense.

So maybe just 1 in those 2 if we're lucky?