Who farted??? [Day 5]

[falcon45ca]

Hi falcon, there are four players left in the game.

Are you trying to say I'm bad at math?

[Long Con]

Hi falcon, there are four players left in the game.

Are you trying to say I'm bad at math?

I am merely a humble believer in truth, and stater of facts.

[falcon45ca]

Hi falcon, there are four players left in the game.

Are you trying to say I'm bad at math?

I am merely a humble believer in truth, and stater of facts.

Oh, well that explains everything

[Elohcin]

I don't know what to think anymore. After listening to Falcon...I'm leaning Epi. Not because Falcon has swayed me to believe Epi is Mafia, but by process of elimination from my own thoughts of players. Falcon seems genuine. Am I allowed to ask @falcon45ca what kept him from posting for so many days? I don't know what is and what isn't allowed in mafia anymore.

And, Epi posted a meme saying he farted. I can see him doing that as a joke but also to see how much he can get away with as mafia.

[Epignosis]

With falcon here, the correct answer is now [VOTE: Sleep] aubergine.

[Epignosis]

Oh, and re my read on Epi, it's best described as intuition based on a few factors...but in the end, do they matter?



We'll see if he's Red at End of Game I s'pose

That's... true of everybody... because the game will be over.

I'm glad you're back in our presence.

I'd like to know what these few factors are and why they don't matter.

[Epignosis]

I don't know what to think anymore. After listening to Falcon...I'm leaning Epi. Not because Falcon has swayed me to believe Epi is Mafia, but by process of elimination from my own thoughts of players. Falcon seems genuine. Am I allowed to ask @falcon45ca what kept him from posting for so many days? I don't know what is and what isn't allowed in mafia anymore.

Please tell me what about this is at all convincing you falcon is genuine:

Oh, and re my read on Epi, it's best described as intuition based on a few factors...but in the end, do they matter?



We'll see if he's Red at End of Game I s'pose

You can replace "Epi" with any name and it reads the same.

And, Epi posted a meme saying he farted. I can see him doing that as a joke but also to see how much he can get away with as mafia.

That wasn't me farting. That was Patrick Stewart farting, which is infinitely funnier.

[Epignosis]

Falcon, to what extent have you been paying attention to this or to what extent are you caught up?

[Elohcin]

With falcon here, the correct answer is now [VOTE: Sleep] aubergine.

Why? And if you aren't the last mafia, who do you think is?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I received a private question that I will answer publicly. Paraphrased:

If the mafia do not submit a kill, does a kill occur?

Yes. Night kills are mandatory. I do not allow mafia to skip night kills on purpose. If the mafia do not submit a kill, the kill is randomized among all living players (including the mafia themselves).

[Epignosis]

With falcon here, the correct answer is now [VOTE: Sleep] aubergine.

Why? And if you aren't the last mafia, who do you think is?

Okay, regarding sleep:

Civilian
Civilian
Civilian
Mafia

This is where we are now.

Picking wrong today means the civilians lose. No two ways about it.

Sleep means mafia gets a free kill, but in this unique scenario (3 vs. 1), that's a GOOD thing for civilians. That makes it this:

Civilian
Civilian
Mafia

That reduces the chances of voting out the incorrect person and losing the game.

As long as everyone is here to vote on the final Day, "Sleep" is the optimal vote.

That doesn't mean people should not discuss or debate during this phase. It just means the votes need to end up on Sleep.

Part 2 of your post coming soon.

[Epignosis]

I am inclined to believe that falcon is not mafia.

The jump into this phase voting me of all people is... a hot take.

The kills after Night 1 I do not believe were random.

Additionally, I think a mafia falcon could vote Eloh since I've been hounding her most of the game and get away with it. I feel as though falcon is just doing the bare minimum and has his "whatever" hat on.

If falcon wins and is mafia, I would join Scotty and be very disappointed in that outcome.

[Epignosis]

@falcon45ca: if you are a civilian, please vote SLEEP.

If you don't, whoever is mafia can hop on me last second and potentially win.

Sleep is the way.

[Epignosis]

When I acquire an opportunity, I'm going to dive into Long Con's posts with more scrutiny.

[Elohcin]

What JJJ says about kills is interesting. I have thought that the kill picks were odd but didn't mention it.

[falcon45ca]

@falcon45ca: if you are a civilian, please vote SLEEP.

If you don't, whoever is mafia can hop on me last second and potentially win.

Sleep is the way.

I'm Civ

[Epignosis]

What JJJ says about kills is interesting. I have thought that the kill picks were odd but didn't mention it.

I now no longer think you are mafia.

[falcon45ca]

I am inclined to believe that falcon is not mafia.

The jump into this phase voting me of all people is... a hot take.

The kills after Night 1 I do not believe were random.

Additionally, I think a mafia falcon could vote Eloh since I've been hounding her most of the game and get away with it. I feel as though falcon is just doing the bare minimum and has his "whatever" hat on.

If falcon wins and is mafia, I would join Scotty and be very disappointed in that outcome.

I feel bad for my lack of participation thus far



I'm a low poster, but this game is well below my standard re: participation



I was on a solo Dad road trip, work has been busy AF, & etc eckcetra, etcetera

[Epignosis]

@falcon45ca: if you are a civilian, please vote SLEEP.

If you don't, whoever is mafia can hop on me last second and potentially win.

Sleep is the way.

I'm Civ

Appreciate the Sleep vote.

All I ask now is that you make one more vote come Day 5 if you are still around.

[Long Con]

[VOTE: sleep] aubergine

I'll be around this evening.

[Epignosis]

@Elohcin same thing: Vote sleep. If you are a civilian you don't want to get busy and have mafia jump on falcon and win.

Again, please keep talking, use today to sort out your thoughts, but the votes should be on Sleep. As long as three of us are there, we get a 2v1 final Day.

[Elohcin]

@Epignosis why don't you think the kills were random after night 1 and why do you think night one kill was random?

I voted sleep.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Our Moderator on Duty, JPIC, has had to step away for a pre-planned event. We may be without a MoD for the remainder of the game, so please continue to play respectfully (as everyone has been doing already). If you have concerns, please reach out to me. Thanks, gang.

[falcon45ca]

Just when I was about to get all rascally & rowdy

[MacDougall]

Stepping in as MoD here. If any of you step out of line so help me god I will slap the shit out of you

[Epignosis]

@Epignosis why don't you think the kills were random after night 1 and why do you think night one kill was random?

I voted sleep.

The kills were all on the nose (heh heh).

S~V~S, Roxy, and Scotty all voted sprityo. They are all dead by mafia's hand.

These kills at random, while of course possible, would be a wild coincidence.

I'm not sure I ever said I think the Night 1 kill was random. If you find the post where I said that, please let me know.

Never mind that. I looked back and found my post that gave that impression.

The kills after Night 1 I do not believe were random.

sprityo (mafia) was lynched Day 1, and in my head I was thinking "Night 2" for kills. I'm a moron.

Revise this to say, "I do not believe any kills were random."

[Epignosis]

Stepping in as MoD here. If any of you step out of line so help me god I will slap the shit out of you

[Elohcin]

@Epignosis why don't you think the kills were random after night 1 and why do you think night one kill was random?

I voted sleep.

The kills were all on the nose (heh heh).

S~V~S, Roxy, and Scotty all voted sprityo. They are all dead by mafia's hand.

These kills at random, while of course possible, would be a wild coincidence.

I'm not sure I ever said I think the Night 1 kill was random. If you find the post where I said that, please let me know.

Never mind that. I looked back and found my post that gave that impression.

The kills after Night 1 I do not believe were random.

Okay. So who do these kills point to, in your opinion.

sprityo (mafia) was lynched Day 1, and in my head I was thinking "Night 2" for kills. I'm a moron.

Revise this to say, "I do not believe any kills were random."

[Elohcin]

@Epignosis why don't you think the kills were random after night 1 and why do you think night one kill was random?

I voted sleep.

The kills were all on the nose (heh heh).

S~V~S, Roxy, and Scotty all voted sprityo. They are all dead by mafia's hand.

These kills at random, while of course possible, would be a wild coincidence.

I'm not sure I ever said I think the Night 1 kill was random. If you find the post where I said that, please let me know.

Never mind that. I looked back and found my post that gave that impression.

The kills after Night 1 I do not believe were random.

Okay. So who do these kills point to, in your opinion.

sprityo (mafia) was lynched Day 1, and in my head I was thinking "Night 2" for kills. I'm a moron.

Revise this to say, "I do not believe any kills were random."

Okay I messed that post up somehow....
I was trying to say,

Okay, so who do you think these kills point to in your opinion?

[Epignosis]

Liam, at this point.

[Elohcin]

Liam, at this point.

[Long Con]

Liam?

[Long Con]

@Epignosis why don't you think the kills were random after night 1 and why do you think night one kill was random?

I voted sleep.

The kills were all on the nose (heh heh).

S~V~S, Roxy, and Scotty all voted sprityo. They are all dead by mafia's hand.

These kills at random, while of course possible, would be a wild coincidence.

I'm not sure I ever said I think the Night 1 kill was random. If you find the post where I said that, please let me know.

Never mind that. I looked back and found my post that gave that impression.

The kills after Night 1 I do not believe were random.

Okay. So who do these kills point to, in your opinion.

sprityo (mafia) was lynched Day 1, and in my head I was thinking "Night 2" for kills. I'm a moron.

Revise this to say, "I do not believe any kills were random."

Okay I messed that post up somehow....
I was trying to say,

Okay, so who do you think these kills point to in your opinion?

Would you have made those kills? Why or why not? Who would you have killed? Epi?

[Epignosis]

Liam?

Inside joke.

It just means, "I am about to edit a very long MMA article written by someone named Liam."

Work calls.

[Long Con]

Looking at that list, they all seem pretty straightforward. Scotty could be because of something he said, maybe I'll just go do a scan.

[Long Con]

Liam?

Inside joke.

It just means, "I am about to edit a very long MMA article written by someone named Liam."

Work calls.

[VOTE: liam] aubergine if that helps

[Long Con]

Oh yes, I started looking back at Scotty's posts, and it all came back to me, he was pretty Elohcin-focused.

[Long Con]

And if I were mafia...I would fear [Epi] and LC, not SVS and Roxy....Sorry SVS and Roxy.

Pretty on-the-nose.

[Long Con]

Aw, then I scrolled up and saw that Epi said "on the nose" but he also made it a fart pun, and I'm just such an also-ran right now.

... I don't think there's quite a diarrhea joke in there.

[Elohcin]

@Epignosis why don't you think the kills were random after night 1 and why do you think night one kill was random?

I voted sleep.

The kills were all on the nose (heh heh).

S~V~S, Roxy, and Scotty all voted sprityo. They are all dead by mafia's hand.

These kills at random, while of course possible, would be a wild coincidence.

I'm not sure I ever said I think the Night 1 kill was random. If you find the post where I said that, please let me know.

Never mind that. I looked back and found my post that gave that impression.

The kills after Night 1 I do not believe were random.

Okay. So who do these kills point to, in your opinion.

sprityo (mafia) was lynched Day 1, and in my head I was thinking "Night 2" for kills. I'm a moron.

Revise this to say, "I do not believe any kills were random."

Okay I messed that post up somehow....
I was trying to say,

Okay, so who do you think these kills point to in your opinion?

Would you have made those kills? Why or why not? Who would you have killed? Epi?

I would not have killed Roxy and SVS. I would have killed you and Epi. Maybe SVS after that though...depending on how things went. I explained this in an earlier post. If I were bad, I would be more afraid of you and Epi than anyone else playing.

[Epignosis]

@Epignosis why don't you think the kills were random after night 1 and why do you think night one kill was random?

I voted sleep.

The kills were all on the nose (heh heh).

S~V~S, Roxy, and Scotty all voted sprityo. They are all dead by mafia's hand.

These kills at random, while of course possible, would be a wild coincidence.

I'm not sure I ever said I think the Night 1 kill was random. If you find the post where I said that, please let me know.

Never mind that. I looked back and found my post that gave that impression.

The kills after Night 1 I do not believe were random.

Okay. So who do these kills point to, in your opinion.

sprityo (mafia) was lynched Day 1, and in my head I was thinking "Night 2" for kills. I'm a moron.

Revise this to say, "I do not believe any kills were random."

Okay I messed that post up somehow....
I was trying to say,

Okay, so who do you think these kills point to in your opinion?

Would you have made those kills? Why or why not? Who would you have killed? Epi?

I would not have killed Roxy and SVS. I would have killed you and Epi. Maybe SVS after that though...depending on how things went. I explained this in an earlier post. If I were bad, I would be more afraid of you and Epi than anyone else playing.

Despite what I said earlier, I think I believe this. I tend to put too much weight into my own thoughts on kills, which is why...

I am, if anything, reminded of why I quit talking about why Alice killed Bill instead of Charles.

[Epignosis]

I refuse to breathe in the vicinity of sprityo and S~V~S.

S name phobic I see

I dunno, he's pretty chummy with Scotty.

Long Con's first interaction with sprityo had a reaction from sprityo right after:

Yeah but who isn’t chummy with Scotty?

Eloh isn't mafia.

what is this

An opinion.

They're like assholes. Everybody has one and some of them stink.

Based on non posting?

Based on non posting?

That's right.

I forgot I even had this perspective at one point.

I raise it because LC voted Eloh Day 2 but voted WITH Eloh Day 3 against Mac.

Flashforward:

Spoiler: show

I don't know how much I'll be able to be here before the buzzer, Easter time is happening. Down to mom's for dinner, etc.

Sorry, Eloh, if you're Town. [VOTE: Elohcin] aubergine

I'll try to check in on my phone when I can.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine His progression is a little too slick for my liking.

LC, how did you progress from the former post to the latter?

I went to look at Mac and falcon but both their post histories were crappy. I figured if Mac was bad then he was trying to coast under the radar, so I voted for him. I picked him over falcon because he was at least present.

My intention here was to understand why LC went from voting Eloh to voting Mac WITH Eloh. Falcon wasn't even a part of the discussion.

We made chicken and black bean burritos with a curry mustard sauce tonight. If Montezuma takes his revenge on me, I'll go through Long Con's posts in more detail, but for now, I'm leaning civilian. I suppose a question I have is why LC voted for sprityo to begin with (as I don't see a reason given other than what I assume is a cheeky one).

My reason was mainly to do a tie, because you can get some pertinent info when tiebreakers vote. I didn't have any real suspicions, but the quasi-TMI thing on Scotty was on my mind as well. I didn't want to bring it up and push the vote one way or another, I wanted the next voter to be the influencer.

This is what LC said at the vote:

Sprityo being prehemptively mad about being suspected earlier makes sense because Sprityo is like the most mischopped person in the history of the internet, not just of the syndicate. Like we could probably use him as a tourist attraction to get people from other sites to join or something.

sig would like a word.

Yeah, sig is the President of Day 1 Yeets in my books. Always and forever.

Sprityo could always use one more. [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine to tie it up.

Going back to this:

My reason was mainly to do a tie, because you can get some pertinent info when tiebreakers vote. I didn't have any real suspicions, but the quasi-TMI thing on Scotty was on my mind as well. I didn't want to bring it up and push the vote one way or another, I wanted the next voter to be the influencer.

I don't think LC ever did anything with the "pertinent info" about tiebreakers. LC, let me know if I'm mistaken there.

I don’t believe SVS and sprityo are on the same team

That’s a good call

Why is it a good call?

I was being kinda facetious (and I think maybe Scotty was being so, too), but for me, if i had to be more real, I would have to say the part where Sprit told me I was a bummer (or whatever specific words he used). It's also that I don't think we are on the same team; I think Sprit's bad, and I know I'm not so from my perspective, I think it's a good call to say we're not teammates.

It's a bit nit picky to fing that worthy, don't you think? It's a sensible statement.

For sure, I realized where my suspicion was coming from after I posted it, it's Scotty's post. For you to say it is just identical to you saying "I think sprityo's bad", but Scotty saying it has the slight whiff of lining up the next elimination. If we take down sprityo and he's Town, is it still a good call?

LC subtly defended sprityo here.

[Epignosis]

If falcon wasn't paying attention all this time and the kills were random, I don't think S~V~S, Roxy, and Scotty die.

[Epignosis]

If falcon wasn't paying attention all this time and the kills were random, I don't think S~V~S, Roxy, and Scotty die.

If falcon wasn't paying attention as MAFIA all this time...

[Epignosis]

Eloh's recent posts lead me to believe she is not guilty despite my gunning for her all this time, and if she is guilty, I'm going to look like a pure imbecile.

[Epignosis]

All of the above leads me to believe Long Con is sprityo's teammate.

[Epignosis]

I think LC's plan here was to tie up Mac with Eloh so that one of them dies, kill Scotty, and line up Eloh for an easy Day.

[Long Con]

This is weak, and I'm kind of disappointed because you were a teacher, and I'm sure that you must have lectured students on *context*, and the importance thereof.

Every single one of these accusations is made in sheer denial of the context you plucked them from.

I refuse to breathe in the vicinity of sprityo and S~V~S.

S name phobic I see

I dunno, he's pretty chummy with Scotty.

Long Con's first interaction with sprityo had a reaction from sprityo right after:

Yeah but who isn’t chummy with Scotty?

The 'context' criticism is relatively loose here, but we happened to be on at the same time during Day 0, and had an interaction. It's something that happens in Mafia, it's not a Wolfy plot. The fact that you'd even include this, let alone lead with it, as "evidence" of my guilt, is just weak.

Eloh isn't mafia.

what is this

An opinion.

They're like assholes. Everybody has one and some of them stink.

Based on non posting?

Based on non posting?

That's right.

I forgot I even had this perspective at one point.

I raise it because LC voted Eloh Day 2 but voted WITH Eloh Day 3 against Mac.

Context. I had voted Mac hours before Eloh made the vote, and I wasn't even back in the thread until well after that. One would normally say that she voted with me, based on the order of votes, but I guess when you're trying to spruce up a case ya gotta take funky perspectives sometimes, right?

I kept my vote on Mac on Day 3 because I thought he was Wolfier than Elohcin. I voted Eloh on Day 2 because I thought she was Wolfier than DDL. My vote ended on Mac on Day 3 because of Day 3 stuff.

I just don't get it. Your own stated opinion on Eloh has bounced around, but you (currently) have gone from seeing her as Wolf to seeing her as Town. This point you're raising, if anything, shows something similar in my reads, in regards to Eloh. Why is it a point AGAINST me, but not against you? How is it even a point against me?

Flashforward:

Spoiler: show

I don't know how much I'll be able to be here before the buzzer, Easter time is happening. Down to mom's for dinner, etc.

Sorry, Eloh, if you're Town. [VOTE: Elohcin] aubergine

I'll try to check in on my phone when I can.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine His progression is a little too slick for my liking.

LC, how did you progress from the former post to the latter?

I went to look at Mac and falcon but both their post histories were crappy. I figured if Mac was bad then he was trying to coast under the radar, so I voted for him. I picked him over falcon because he was at least present.

My intention here was to understand why LC went from voting Eloh to voting Mac WITH Eloh. Falcon wasn't even a part of the discussion.

I don't know what to tell you. You asked how I progressed to it, and I gave you my most accurate recollection.

The thread situation was different on Day 2 than it was on Day 3. I had a different suspect I thought was the best vote, because we all had a bunch of discussions *during* Day 3, all about the subject at hand.

It's blatantly false that you are "attempting to understand" this, framing it as though I jumped suddenly and inexplicably from Eloh to Mac, when the votes were on separate days entirely. This is not a remarkable mystery, this is my game progression. As I said, Day 3 had interactions that Day 2 did not yet have.

We made chicken and black bean burritos with a curry mustard sauce tonight. If Montezuma takes his revenge on me, I'll go through Long Con's posts in more detail, but for now, I'm leaning civilian. I suppose a question I have is why LC voted for sprityo to begin with (as I don't see a reason given other than what I assume is a cheeky one).

My reason was mainly to do a tie, because you can get some pertinent info when tiebreakers vote. I didn't have any real suspicions, but the quasi-TMI thing on Scotty was on my mind as well. I didn't want to bring it up and push the vote one way or another, I wanted the next voter to be the influencer.

This is what LC said at the vote:

Sprityo being prehemptively mad about being suspected earlier makes sense because Sprityo is like the most mischopped person in the history of the internet, not just of the syndicate. Like we could probably use him as a tourist attraction to get people from other sites to join or something.

sig would like a word.

Yeah, sig is the President of Day 1 Yeets in my books. Always and forever.

Sprityo could always use one more. [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine to tie it up.

Going back to this:

My reason was mainly to do a tie, because you can get some pertinent info when tiebreakers vote. I didn't have any real suspicions, but the quasi-TMI thing on Scotty was on my mind as well. I didn't want to bring it up and push the vote one way or another, I wanted the next voter to be the influencer.

I don't think LC ever did anything with the "pertinent info" about tiebreakers. LC, let me know if I'm mistaken there.

CONTEXT! What happened next? Did you even think about it?

Roxy voted Scotty and then, in the same post, voted sprityo. To break the tie. I talked about that the next Day. I did not state "I'm about to talk about pertinent info from yesterday's voting" when I did it... I just, like did it.

You voted right after Roxy, immediately. I'm pretty sure I also discussed this in the thread, did I not? I mean, I once again didn't title it "Pertinent Info Results", so maybe you missed it?

And Mac tailed on that last over-over-the-top vote that I'm sure you remember, and *I* remember talking about it.

Your accusation, once again, specifically avoids any honest analysis in favour of a flimsy, one-dimensional jab. I don't see how anyone could consider this an honest attempt from you.

I don’t believe SVS and sprityo are on the same team

That’s a good call

Why is it a good call?

I was being kinda facetious (and I think maybe Scotty was being so, too), but for me, if i had to be more real, I would have to say the part where Sprit told me I was a bummer (or whatever specific words he used). It's also that I don't think we are on the same team; I think Sprit's bad, and I know I'm not so from my perspective, I think it's a good call to say we're not teammates.

It's a bit nit picky to fing that worthy, don't you think? It's a sensible statement.

For sure, I realized where my suspicion was coming from after I posted it, it's Scotty's post. For you to say it is just identical to you saying "I think sprityo's bad", but Scotty saying it has the slight whiff of lining up the next elimination. If we take down sprityo and he's Town, is it still a good call?

LC subtly defended sprityo here.

And one final Context-Free piece of phony propaganda. The entire point of the conversation was suspicion of Scotty having TMI when he said S~V~S and sprityo were definitely not on the same team. I was explaining to S~V~S why I found it suspicious, not defending sprityo, and anyone who cares to go and read the context will agree.

I'm kind of surprised that you decided to make me the scapegoat here, but come on, dude. There's not a single honest accusation in your entire post, and I know for a fact that you know better than to make these fundamentally weak accusations.

[Long Con]

I think LC's plan here was to tie up Mac with Eloh so that one of them dies, kill Scotty, and line up Eloh for an easy Day.

I guess Eloh is my teammate somehow then? Since she is the one that tied it up, and she could have just as well voted for me?

Where have I "lined Eloh up"?? What is this fiction?

[falcon45ca]

Looking at that list, they all seem pretty straightforward. Scotty could be because of something he said, maybe I'll just go do a scan.

What's your read on me?



You usually try and solve me when you're Town...you seem quite content to just leave me be



Or am I craaaaaaaazy?