The Syndicate

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:06 pm**

Ricochet wrote:
Dom wrote:
Ricochet wrote:(Plus, I'll be amazed if I'll be able to crack out Vompatti at any point of the game. )
What makes you feel that way?
If he'll just vomperdoodle as usual, I don't see how I'll manage to profile that in any way as good or bad. But you (collectively) certainly have much more experience with that already.

Do you know Vompatti outside of Mafia/this game?

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dom wrote:
thellama73 wrote:You really wouldn't vote for someone you thought was bad because they are new, SVS? I find that very strange.
You find it strange that SVS would have a sentimental reason for not voting new players? You find it strange that SVS would place principle over pragmatism-- especially early on in a game?
You really find THAT strange?

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Dom wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote: Llama, are you insane? Sure, you could say that's one explanation for Ricochet just didn't say "No", but if you want to believe that's most likely, then it seems to me you have to make some serious assumptions.
I am eager to hear the rationale for your Day 1 vote that involves zero assumptions.
^^^^^
LOL, seriously guys? Where did I say my D1 vote wouldn't involve zero assumptions? And way to cut out the rest of my post, Llama, to misrepresent what I was saying.
MP, what did you mean to indicate by "serious assumptions", then? Do you intend to make them in your vote?

MovingPictures07 wrote:And one last thing, I'd appreciate to hear what Dom's thinking, since I haven't really seen what he's thinking re: suspects or anything yet other than questioning people.
Now, MP, is that really strange for me at Day 1?
I think it's pretty obvious what I'm thinking.
Is questioning people bad?
Why are you concerned with my questions?
Is this an unusual way for me to play?
(Hint: it's not)

So yeah, Llama's got my eye. I thought that much was obvious.
I never once said it was strange, Dom. I just was hoping you'd clarify since I knew you questioned Llama but you seemed to feel better after his response, but I really couldn't tell what was going on in your mind, so that's why I asked.

I think you're reaching; I never said questioning is bad, that I'm concerned, or anything. I just wanted clarification, that's all.

If I'm reaching, what am i reaching for? You never stated it, and I find that potentially concerning.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:i really thought the poll ended at 3 and not 2. i guess i should have voted before i posted.

Wait...
how would that have helped?

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:07 pm**

Bass_the_Clever wrote:i really thought the poll ended at 3 and not 2. i guess i should have voted before i posted.

Nevermind, I just saw his post from before.

Sorry, Bass!

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:09 pm**

if i voted before i started my post i wouldn't have missed vote.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:11 pm**

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:17 pm**

Bass_the_Clever wrote:if i voted before i started my post i wouldn't have missed vote.

i didn't see that post, and then was liek-- wtf you didn't even say anything

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:29 pm**

Day 1 Vote

Who put the junk in the trunk?
Poll ended at Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:43:55 pm

A Person
1
A Person (18) 6%
Sockface
1
Canucklehead (7) 6%
Long Con
1
birdwithteeth11 (8) 6%
Spacedaisy
0
No votes
S~V~S
0
No votes
FZ.
0
No votes
Bass the Clever
0
No votes
Turnip Head
0
No votes
DFaraday
0
No votes
Made
1
Ricochet (17) 6%
Dom
1
MovingPictures07 (10) 6%
Lizzy
1
Spacedaisy (15) 6%
Vomperdoodle
0
No votes
Timmer
0
No votes
Birdy
5
S~V~S (9), timmer (12), thellama73 (13), Turnip Head (14), FZ. (16) 28%
Ricochet
0
No votes
Black Rock
0
No votes
Lolama
2
Lizzy (4), Dom (6) 11%
Ninja Blooper
0
No votes
Roxy
0
No votes
Sabie
0
No votes
Metalmarsh
2
Metalmarsh89 (2), Vompatti (11) 11%
Canucklehead
0
No votes
Lars von Trier (Host/Mod/NP/Deadies)
3
Mongoose (1), zeek (3), Epignosis (5) 17%
Total votes : 18

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:37 pm**

Dom wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Dom wrote:
Ricochet wrote:(Plus, I'll be amazed if I'll be able to crack out Vompatti at any point of the game. )
What makes you feel that way?
If he'll just vomperdoodle as usual, I don't see how I'll manage to profile that in any way as good or bad. But you (collectively) certainly have much more experience with that already.
Do you know Vompatti outside of Mafia/this game?

Yes, from ProgArchives and currently FB.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:37 pm**

Can we please get the results ASAP?

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:39 pm**

Day 1: John Huston, We Have a Problem

Chances are if you've ever seen Treasure of the Sierra Madre, it changed your life. Directing his own father and Bogart to cinematic success, John Huston proved yet again that he was an impressario of the silver screen.

Try: http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/157864 to learn more about this Hollywood magnate. He directed his own daughter Anjelica to a heavily-lauded performance in The Dead.

"Wait, that's not true!" shouted BirdWithTeeth11.

"But it's right there in the textbook!" replied Made.

"I don't like this," said A Person.

Llama said something intentionally provocative. No one listened.

"Well, let's rewind the reel and hear that part again," said BirdWithTeeth.

He put his hand over the projector to stop it, but his sleeve got caught and it yanked his arm at the socket. As Birdy was bleeding to death, he wondered if Devin Townsend had ever directed anything.

BirdWithTeeth has been lynched. He was Howard Hawks.

It is now Night 1. You have 24 hours to send in your PMs/night actions and vote in the night poll.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:43 pm**

Crap!

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:46 pm**

I'm sorry, BWT. That is most unfortunate.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:48 pm**

RIP, BWT. Pretty significant power we lost there.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:50 pm**

PSA: My night polls are just for fun. I encourage you to participate, but it is not mandatory and has not bearing on the game.

This is the historic Tampa Theatre. It was built in the 1920s. Llama and I saw Citizen Kane there in August.

http://tampatheatre.org/

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:51 pm**

Mongoose wrote:PSA: My night polls are just for fun. I encourage you to participate, but it is not mandatory and has not bearing on the game.

This is the historic Tampa Theatre. It was built in the 1920s. Llama and I saw Citizen Kane there in August.

We did. It was great.

Does this mean we have to use OT Green when talking about the night polls?

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:53 pm**

thellama73 wrote:
Mongoose wrote:PSA: My night polls are just for fun. I encourage you to participate, but it is not mandatory and has not bearing on the game.

This is the historic Tampa Theatre. It was built in the 1920s. Llama and I saw Citizen Kane there in August.

We did. It was great.

Does this mean we have to use OT Green when talking about the night polls?

Nah.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:54 pm**

With nothing but Magnolia to ever possibly change this (since I still haven't seen it), my favourite PTA is definitely There Will Be Blood. And sorry to bitch, but this poll would have rather been nice in chronological order.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:56 pm**

It is now Day 1.

You have 48 hours to determine who put the junk in the trunk.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:57 pm**

Ricochet wrote:With nothing but Magnolia to ever possibly change this (since I still haven't seen it), my favourite PTA is definitely There Will Be Blood. And sorry to bitch, but this poll would have rather been nice in chronological order.

I saw There Will Be Blood for the first time recently, and I can't stop doing the Daniel Plainview voice.

"I'm an oil man!"

linki: oh, thanks, Stanley.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:57 pm**

Ricochet wrote:With nothing but Magnolia to ever possibly change this (since I still haven't seen it), my favourite PTA is definitely There Will Be Blood. And sorry to bitch, but this poll would have rather been nice in chronological order.

Well, that's how I was going to do it, but I remembered Sock's request for alphabetized! It will go back up on Night 1 by the way, so you will have two extra days to choose your favorite PTA film, wooo!

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:58 pm**

Wait, what's happening?

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:01 pm**

Mongoose wrote:It is now Day 1.

You have 48 hours to determine who put the junk in the trunk.

I thought my brain was playing a trick on me because I saw the poll before this post.

Guess I should use this time to watch Hard Eight, right?

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:05 pm**

Ricochet wrote:Wait, what's happening?

If I had to guess, I would say that Stanley Kubrick used his power to reset the day period. BWT is still alive, and we have another chance to get it right.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:05 pm**

What just happened? Are we doing the day again?

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:09 pm**

It appears so! Sorry BWT, it seemed enough for a Day 1

Now, DeMille will have a much easier time "finding" Hawks

...

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:09 pm**

thellama73 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Wait, what's happening?
If I had to guess, I would say that Stanley Kubrick used his power to reset the day period. BWT is still alive, and we have another chance to get it right.

I assume he can only do it once in the game, right?

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:11 pm**

Ricochet wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Wait, what's happening?
If I had to guess, I would say that Stanley Kubrick used his power to reset the day period. BWT is still alive, and we have another chance to get it right.
I assume he can only do it once in the game, right?

Correct, but now Hawks could presumably steal his power and use it himself.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:15 pm**

thellama73 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Wait, what's happening?
If I had to guess, I would say that Stanley Kubrick used his power to reset the day period. BWT is still alive, and we have another chance to get it right.
I assume he can only do it once in the game, right?
Correct, but now Hawks could presumably steal his power and use it himself.

Oh, can power steal / adopt happen without actually knowing who has the power? I always assumed the player with the power to adopt would PM the mod, designate another player and adopt whatever power he has.

Anyway, it looks like it could be February when we'll finally pass Day 1.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:22 pm**

Ricochet wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Wait, what's happening?
If I had to guess, I would say that Stanley Kubrick used his power to reset the day period. BWT is still alive, and we have another chance to get it right.
I assume he can only do it once in the game, right?
Correct, but now Hawks could presumably steal his power and use it himself.
Oh, can power steal / adopt happen without actually knowing who has the power? I always assumed the player with the power to adopt would PM the mod, designate another player and adopt whatever power he has.

Anyway, it looks like it could be February when we'll finally pass Day 1.

It depends on how the host structured the role. In the past, when I have used such roles, they steal from a random player each night, but that doesn't mean Mongoose chose the same method.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:25 pm**

Hawks will not learn who has what powers when he steals them.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:27 pm**

Ok then, thanks for clarifying.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 5:59 pm**

Sorry BWT, but yay for a do over. And using it to bting BWT back was a good use of it, too, with his role.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:30 pm**

Sorry for missing the original vote, Black Rock and I were putting together a bunk bed and it took a long time, and I guess I'm used to the later deadline from the Champions game. I promise it won't become a problem.

I would have either voted for BWT with the crowd, or voted for FZ. Pretty much because they were, deliberately or not, reading me in a negative light where no such light was necessary. For the cross-game record, when I do a role analysis, I try to find ways to help the Civvies. I do it as a Civvie, a baddie, or an Indy. It just makes sense... as a Civvie, I want to help the Civvies. As a baddie, I want to seem like I'm helping the Civvies. The analysis part probably looks the same either way. I don't do it for cred, I do it because I enjoy doing it, and it can be helpful and fun to try and maximize the Civvie roles' power from the get-go.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:36 pm**

Well poop on your face to everyone who voted for me. But thanks to Kubrick for bringing me back to try again! I knew he was one of my favorite directors for a reason!

I just got home and am eating dinner soon. But I'll have some time tonight to participate a bit.

Given that we have a re-do, I might consider scraping all my original ideas and starting over. Especially given that I didn't have a very strong reason for voting LC.

Linki: Yeah, I get that LC. I just read it as having negative connotations instead. And like I said, it might well just be we have a difference in opinion on it. Which is why I'm starting over and going to try and develop new ideas instead.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:43 pm**

Thank goodness for do-overs! At least we have had some discussion so we have something to look back upon. I don't necessarily find SVS suspicious for her vote but I am interested to hear her thoughts on her followers Timmer, llama, TH and FZ.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:48 pm**

Long Con wrote:Sorry for missing the original vote, Black Rock and I were putting together a bunk bed and it took a long time, and I guess I'm used to the later deadline from the Champions game. I promise it won't become a problem.

I would have either voted for BWT with the crowd, or voted for FZ. Pretty much because they were, deliberately or not, reading me in a negative light where no such light was necessary. For the cross-game record, when I do a role analysis, I try to find ways to help the Civvies. I do it as a Civvie, a baddie, or an Indy. It just makes sense... as a Civvie, I want to help the Civvies. As a baddie, I want to seem like I'm helping the Civvies. The analysis part probably looks the same either way. I don't do it for cred, I do it because I enjoy doing it, and it can be helpful and fun to try and maximize the Civvie roles' power from the get-go.

How exactly did you maximize the civvie's powers with that analysis, I fail to see. If you're a civ, I apologize for going after you, but what exactly did you say in that post that none of us could read on their own?

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:51 pm**

Roxy wrote:Thank goodness for do-overs! At least we have had some discussion so we have something to look back upon. I don't necessarily find SVS suspicious for her vote but I am interested to hear her thoughts on her followers Timmer, llama, TH and FZ.

I screwed up, I'm the first to admit it, but what on earth would I gain by voting a civ that already seemed to have the most votes, when instead I could just vote for one of the people who I found more suspicious but didn't look like they were at risk of being lynched? Nothing but looking bad.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:57 pm**

Why do you have a problem with a role analysis?

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:11 pm**

FZ. wrote:
Long Con wrote:Sorry for missing the original vote, Black Rock and I were putting together a bunk bed and it took a long time, and I guess I'm used to the later deadline from the Champions game. I promise it won't become a problem.

I would have either voted for BWT with the crowd, or voted for FZ. Pretty much because they were, deliberately or not, reading me in a negative light where no such light was necessary. For the cross-game record, when I do a role analysis, I try to find ways to help the Civvies. I do it as a Civvie, a baddie, or an Indy. It just makes sense... as a Civvie, I want to help the Civvies. As a baddie, I want to seem like I'm helping the Civvies. The analysis part probably looks the same either way. I don't do it for cred, I do it because I enjoy doing it, and it can be helpful and fun to try and maximize the Civvie roles' power from the get-go.
How exactly did you maximize the civvie's powers with that analysis, I fail to see. If you're a civ, I apologize for going after you, but what exactly did you say in that post that none of us could read on their own?

I guess it just depends on how your creative brain works. I think I'm done talking about this.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:13 pm**

I'm definitely going to vote for Vompatti today unless someone changes my mind.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:28 pm**

thellama73 wrote:I'm definitely going to vote for Vompatti today unless someone changes my mind.

That seems slightly obstinate. Could you perhaps elaborate on why do you (still) think him being active was something suspicious and why other member's counterarguments aren't satisfactory for you?

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:47 pm**

Ricochet wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I'm definitely going to vote for Vompatti today unless someone changes my mind.
That seems slightly obstinate. Could you perhaps elaborate on why do you (still) think him being active was something suspicious and why other member's counterarguments aren't satisfactory for you?

Because I have played many games with him and I think I can read him. I realize this will not be persuasive to other people, but I don't expect him to be so concerned about being lynched unless he has a team to support. I am an obstinate person, but I did say I was open to having my mind changed.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:51 pm**

thellama73 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I'm definitely going to vote for Vompatti today unless someone changes my mind.
That seems slightly obstinate. Could you perhaps elaborate on why do you (still) think him being active was something suspicious and why other member's counterarguments aren't satisfactory for you?
Because I have played many games with him and I think I can read him. I realize this will not be persuasive to other people, but I don't expect him to be so concerned about being lynched unless he has a team to support. I am an obstinate person, but I did say I was open to having my mind changed.

What makes you think I'm concerned about getting lynched?

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:56 pm**

Vompatti wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I'm definitely going to vote for Vompatti today unless someone changes my mind.
That seems slightly obstinate. Could you perhaps elaborate on why do you (still) think him being active was something suspicious and why other member's counterarguments aren't satisfactory for you?
Because I have played many games with him and I think I can read him. I realize this will not be persuasive to other people, but I don't expect him to be so concerned about being lynched unless he has a team to support. I am an obstinate person, but I did say I was open to having my mind changed.
What makes you think I'm concerned about getting lynched?

The things you have posted this game.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:08 pm**

Event: Where's Scorsese?

Optional Game: Simply PM the host with your guess of where Scorsese is at the moment! If you are right, you get a prize!

A.
The Citizen Kane Lot

B.
The Olympia

C.
Cannes Film Festival

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:48 pm**

Figures having multiple of these would be useful later in game, so let's go with it.
my responses are in this pretty color

thellama73 wrote:All right, let's see what we got here:

A Person - No read
Bass the Clever - Seems off/stiff, Iunno
BirdWithTeeth11 - I generally don't like/trust an eagerness to speak on another player's behalf "what I think he meant by that was..." Let people speak for themselves. It may not be a baddie move, but it certainly helps baddies cover slips if they make them. I'll agree with this
BlackRock - No read.samzies
Canucklehead - Textbook sexism on Day 0, but apart from that, no read. can't remember how to read canuck tbh
DFaraday - No read. same
Dom - I am enjoying Dom this game. I think he has been helpful and on-topic, which I appreciate. I won't vote for him today. I agree, but Llama's phrasing here is making me double take
FZ. - seems geunine
Lizzy - Lizzy is hard to read. She is impulsive and typically not a very on topic poster, which is what we've seen here. I don't like her early vote for me, but it doesn't make her bad. No read, but thanks for the insight
Long Con - Fz's ping is actually the reason i'm trusting him more than the average player atm
Made - p chill, could use more hugs tho
MetalMarsh - I don't see anything unusual about his self-vote since he said he was not going to be around for the vote.It's not the first time i've seen himself vote because of out of time i think?
MovingPictures07 - Reading MP is like reading Ulysses: I want to do it, then I just don't. No reads yet this game
Ninjablooper - No pings from her, but after being her teammate I know how subtle and crafty her baddie game is, so I will be keeping a close eye on her.agreed
Ricochet -I like him, kids got spunk. He's got Moxy
Roxy - I think her baddie game is smoother and less reactive than what I have seen so far.too soon to tell imo
sabie12 - No read. ditto
SpaceDaisy - No read. dota
S~V~S - Always imposible for me to read, I have no reason to suspect her as yet.same
thellama73 - a really great guy. He is just the best. He seems more himself than usual, which i have no problem with because he's a swell guy. Going to keep tabs on how long i feel this way tho.
Timmer - No read
TurnipHead - no reeds
Vompatti - no read.

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:52 pm**

Leaving my vote on BWT, he's totally seemer..

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:52 pm**

Don't bother reading Ulysses. I did it last year and it was deffo not worth it.

linki Made: Lol

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:55 pm**

thellama73 wrote:Don't bother reading Ulysses. I did it last year and it was deffo not worth it.

linki Made: Lol

It's sitting on my desk right now I'm gonna at least give it a shot, and if it's really dumb, i'm just gonna throw it across the room mid sentence,

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:57 pm**

Made wrote:Made - p chill, could use more hugs tho

*Hugs*

Posted: **Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:57 pm**

Made wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Don't bother reading Ulysses. I did it last year and it was deffo not worth it.

linki Made: Lol
It's sitting on my desk right now I'm gonna at least give it a shot, and if it's really dumb, i'm just gonna throw it across the room mid sentence,

That won't be hard, since half the sentences in there are fifty pages long. To me it's one of the most blatant cases of the emperor not having any clothes.

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