The Syndicate

fingersplints wrote:I'm voting zombrella in case I fall asleep before the lynch is over. I don't see how she could say Aces is a huge asset and is now backpedaling away. I am actually very excited to play with Aces, as I don't think I have in years, but he hasn't posted a lot and I don't see him as contributing significantly more then the other two she mentioned. And I don't see how one civvie death would be more important then another. What if Ace has a lousy ability and llama has a game changing one
I don't know. Something is just not sitting right with me there.

Attagirl.

fingersplints wrote:I'm voting zombrella in case I fall asleep before the lynch is over. I don't see how she could say Aces is a huge asset and is now backpedaling away. I am actually very excited to play with Aces, as I don't think I have in years, but he hasn't posted a lot and I don't see him as contributing significantly more then the other two she mentioned. And I don't see how one civvie death would be more important then another. What if Ace has a lousy ability and llama has a game changing one
I don't know. Something is just not sitting right with me there.

Woah, wait a minute. Didn't you voice some suspicion (different from mine) of BF earlier, after previously saying you didn't want to vote for him because it was his first game back in a while, and THEN later say you could see yourself voting MM for his self-vote.

Where does this come from? Why did you not mention either of those previous thoughts of yours at all?

This pinged me.

Zomberella12 wrote:Okay - I've got company coming in 2 min. So I have to make a decision.
Golden - no
Rabbit - no
MP - no
BF - IDK
Juliets - maybe?
MM - starting to try more but already wasted his vote
Llama - the struggle continues
Aces - his last post wasn't very 'huge asset' like
Fingers - IDK
MP - no
bea - where are you?
Bass - no

*votes..........MM*

Sorry, would you mind explaining your vote again?

Geez, MP. If you love Zombrella so much, maybe you should just marry her. Snowman's not around, you know.

I dunno rabbit. I dunno that Juliet is part of a save. I just think that if people think the timing of her vote is odd, then the only reason for a baddie to make an oddly-timed vote is to put in a save.

I think it was pretty clear votes were going Aces way, and I think changing the direction of the thread at that particular point in time would have been desirable if I had caught a baddie.

I haven't seen anything about LC that suggests to me that he is part of a plot. All he did was point out a fact.

I think you should vote aces, but I'd understand if you don't.

I'm sorry that MM doesn't regret his decision. He may find himself to me a popular day 1 lynch from now on.

thellama73 wrote:Geez, MP. If you love Zombrella so much, maybe you should just marry her. Snowman's not around, you know.

I'm not defending Zomba; I'm calling out splints for inconsistencies and I would like her to explain. Do you not agree with my observations?

I tried voting someone else Day 1 to kickstart discussion in GoC. That backfired too.

Y'all are impossible to please.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:I'm voting zombrella in case I fall asleep before the lynch is over. I don't see how she could say Aces is a huge asset and is now backpedaling away. I am actually very excited to play with Aces, as I don't think I have in years, but he hasn't posted a lot and I don't see him as contributing significantly more then the other two she mentioned. And I don't see how one civvie death would be more important then another. What if Ace has a lousy ability and llama has a game changing one
I don't know. Something is just not sitting right with me there.

Woah, wait a minute. Didn't you voice some suspicion (different from mine) of BF earlier, after previously saying you didn't want to vote for him because it was his first game back in a while, and THEN later say you could see yourself voting MM for his self-vote.

Where does this come from? Why did you not mention either of those previous thoughts of yours at all?

This pinged me.

Pinged me too. Once again, if that comment from zombs is suspicious, then it's suspicious to SAVE ACES.

I just feel like the civvies are spreading their votes all over the show and getting played.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I tried voting someone else Day 1 to kickstart discussion in GoC. That backfired too.

Y'all are impossible to please.

You seriously don't see the argument against self-voting if you are a civilian?

Golden wrote:I dunno rabbit. I dunno that Juliet is part of a save. I just think that if people think the timing of her vote is odd, then the only reason for a baddie to make an oddly-timed vote is to put in a save.

I think it was pretty clear votes were going Aces way, and I think changing the direction of the thread at that particular point in time would have been desirable if I had caught a baddie.

I haven't seen anything about LC that suggests to me that he is part of a plot. All he did was point out a fact.

I think you should vote aces, but I'd understand if you don't.

I'm sorry that MM doesn't regret his decision. He may find himself to me a popular day 1 lynch from now on.

I just want to remind everyone I could not have been trying to save Aces because he had no votes at the time I voted.

Golden wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:I'm voting zombrella in case I fall asleep before the lynch is over. I don't see how she could say Aces is a huge asset and is now backpedaling away. I am actually very excited to play with Aces, as I don't think I have in years, but he hasn't posted a lot and I don't see him as contributing significantly more then the other two she mentioned. And I don't see how one civvie death would be more important then another. What if Ace has a lousy ability and llama has a game changing one
I don't know. Something is just not sitting right with me there.

Woah, wait a minute. Didn't you voice some suspicion (different from mine) of BF earlier, after previously saying you didn't want to vote for him because it was his first game back in a while, and THEN later say you could see yourself voting MM for his self-vote.

Where does this come from? Why did you not mention either of those previous thoughts of yours at all?

This pinged me.

Pinged me too. Once again, if that comment from zombs is suspicious, then it's suspicious to SAVE ACES.

I just feel like the civvies are spreading their votes all over the show and getting played.

I do admit it's weird. I have to head out now, but with time pending, I'll re-read Aces after I let D1 sink in and let you know if I find anything of note. Upon reading his posts in real time, I don't have an opinion, but I suppose that's true of roughly 75% or more of the players right now for me. Maybe my opinion of him is unfairly being painted by DN and trying to compare it with games I played with Aces years ago where he was much quieter.

My current suspect list is as follows:
1) BF
2) MM
3) Splints
4) juliets

I have not been inconsistent MP. My last post had been about Zomb. I brought up the huge asset thing before llama did. Yes, I considered a vote for MM. But his recent posts make me feel better about him. As I said to rabbit, I did not change my opinion on bf. I was discussing in the thread what could be suspicious about his behavior. I never said I was considering a vote for him.

juliets wrote:

Golden wrote:I dunno rabbit. I dunno that Juliet is part of a save. I just think that if people think the timing of her vote is odd, then the only reason for a baddie to make an oddly-timed vote is to put in a save.

I think it was pretty clear votes were going Aces way, and I think changing the direction of the thread at that particular point in time would have been desirable if I had caught a baddie.

I haven't seen anything about LC that suggests to me that he is part of a plot. All he did was point out a fact.

I think you should vote aces, but I'd understand if you don't.

I'm sorry that MM doesn't regret his decision. He may find himself to me a popular day 1 lynch from now on.

I just want to remind everyone I could not have been trying to save Aces because he had no votes at the time I voted.

I want to remind Golden I asked him if he thought LC was part of the save, not JC.

rabbit8 wrote:

Golden wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:

Golden wrote:@MP - I think bf is a wasted vote when no-one else is voting that way, bad or not. I'd sooner enter the fray than make a fence-sitting vote (even a genuine one).

I still have that ping in the back of my mind, but no real read on him. But I don't see any way he is lynched today.

@zombs - if someone thinks juliet is bad, why do they think she voted early for MM if not to save aces?

I don't know if I think juliet is bad - but if she is bad, thats what I think her vote was about.

Oh, son. Let me tell you some shit. What better to do than get civvies arguing over two civvies? Nothing. And JC was not getting any heat until now. Her vote she thought was safe, that's why she made it, nub.

And she is safe. No way will she get enough votes to be lynched.

Oh I know. I did not really see the case until I got home. I can't make a case I don't see. I just don't see the Ace thing.

You think LC will still vote for MM? You think he is part of the save?

juliets wrote:

Golden wrote:I dunno rabbit. I dunno that Juliet is part of a save. I just think that if people think the timing of her vote is odd, then the only reason for a baddie to make an oddly-timed vote is to put in a save.

I think it was pretty clear votes were going Aces way, and I think changing the direction of the thread at that particular point in time would have been desirable if I had caught a baddie.

I haven't seen anything about LC that suggests to me that he is part of a plot. All he did was point out a fact.

I think you should vote aces, but I'd understand if you don't.

I'm sorry that MM doesn't regret his decision. He may find himself to me a popular day 1 lynch from now on.

I just want to remind everyone I could not have been trying to save Aces because he had no votes at the time I voted.

Honestly, this argument has no merit at all. I think you are good, but I'm surprised you needed to bring out MM's argument. Everyone - everyone - knew Aces was getting my vote. And the most heat in the thread. So lets not pretend that, in a situation where Aces is bad, his team wouldn't be worried and try to take evasive action.

I'm not sure you are bad, juliet, but the idea that you 'could not have been saving aces' doesn't hold water.

@linki rabbit. I answered you with my first two words. And my third line.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I tried voting someone else Day 1 to kickstart discussion in GoC. That backfired too.

Y'all are impossible to please.

You seriously don't see the argument against self-voting if you are a civilian?

My self-vote was a risky move I made on purpose. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like it will work out in my favor.

Don't give me that attitude. If you think I'm bad, you should vote for me. If you think I'm good, you could defend me. Unfortunately, you don't seem to have a stance you want to represent, but are falling back onto your beliefs. Kinda like how your vote was placed on BF, who was your go-to option you conveniently mentioned earlier in the day, and a suspicion I don't understand at all.

Golden wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:I'm voting zombrella in case I fall asleep before the lynch is over. I don't see how she could say Aces is a huge asset and is now backpedaling away. I am actually very excited to play with Aces, as I don't think I have in years, but he hasn't posted a lot and I don't see him as contributing significantly more then the other two she mentioned. And I don't see how one civvie death would be more important then another. What if Ace has a lousy ability and llama has a game changing one
I don't know. Something is just not sitting right with me there.

Woah, wait a minute. Didn't you voice some suspicion (different from mine) of BF earlier, after previously saying you didn't want to vote for him because it was his first game back in a while, and THEN later say you could see yourself voting MM for his self-vote.

Where does this come from? Why did you not mention either of those previous thoughts of yours at all?

This pinged me.

Pinged me too. Once again, if that comment from zombs is suspicious, then it's suspicious to SAVE ACES.

I just feel like the civvies are spreading their votes all over the show and getting played.

Not necessarily. Zombs could just as easily be a baddie buddying up to someone she thinks might be a civvie. OR she is Aces teammate, and I would want to lynch him next likely. I find HER suspicious. Not Aces. So it makes sense for me to want to lynch her first, whereas you want to lynch Aces first since you find his actions suspicious.

thellama73 wrote:Juliets does seem kind of bad this game, but juliets has one of the most impossible to read baddie games ever, so I doubt she actually is.

Lynch Rabbit... I mean Zombrella! No, wait. I don't know what I mean...

I disagree. I do think Juliets is difficult to read most times, but I think she is civ here. I think the "case" against her is silly and that those gunning for her are most likely bad.

Also, whe Zomb said Aces was a huge asset, I immediately thought maybe she was somewhat referring to his playstyle in Death Note Mafia....he was being helpful there. Zomb, how many games have you played with Aces?

Linki @ MP...funny, Mine are:
1)llama
2)MM
3)Golden

linki linki linki linki

Golden wrote:

juliets wrote:

Golden wrote:I dunno rabbit. I dunno that Juliet is part of a save. I just think that if people think the timing of her vote is odd, then the only reason for a baddie to make an oddly-timed vote is to put in a save.

I think it was pretty clear votes were going Aces way, and I think changing the direction of the thread at that particular point in time would have been desirable if I had caught a baddie.

I haven't seen anything about LC that suggests to me that he is part of a plot. All he did was point out a fact.

I think you should vote aces, but I'd understand if you don't.

I'm sorry that MM doesn't regret his decision. He may find himself to me a popular day 1 lynch from now on.

I just want to remind everyone I could not have been trying to save Aces because he had no votes at the time I voted.

Honestly, this argument has no merit at all. I think you are good, but I'm surprised you needed to bring out MM's argument. Everyone - everyone - knew Aces was getting my vote. And the most heat in the thread. So lets not pretend that, in a situation where Aces is bad, his team wouldn't be worried and try to take evasive action.

I'm not sure you are bad, juliet, but the idea that you 'could not have been saving aces' doesn't hold water.

@linki rabbit. I answered you with my first two words. And my third line.

I know. I wanted you to reconsider. Makes me question your whole concept for a case. Everything shifted to MM right AFTER LCs post, IMO.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Geez, MP. If you love Zombrella so much, maybe you should just marry her. Snowman's not around, you know.

I'm not defending Zomba; I'm calling out splints for inconsistencies and I would like her to explain. Do you not agree with my observations?

Not really, no.

Elohcin wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Juliets does seem kind of bad this game, but juliets has one of the most impossible to read baddie games ever, so I doubt she actually is.

Lynch Rabbit... I mean Zombrella! No, wait. I don't know what I mean...

I disagree. I do think Juliets is difficult to read most times, but I think she is civ here. I think the "case" against her is silly and that those gunning for her are most likely bad.

Bollocks. I'm sure you'll be eating your words in about 30 minutes.

My read is it didn't shift to MM at that point. It just was an already out there, viable second option to seeing Aces lynched, that the baddies could jump on. I would have to go back and look at the timing, but in my mind LC brings that up well before the point where I would think the baddies need to come up with a way to save Aces. I think, if the jumping on MM to save Aces happened, it could be either LC setting it up, or it could be them jumping on LC. I don't really have a read on that.

And now I have to run until prob after lynch. Good luck guys!

Elohcin wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Juliets does seem kind of bad this game, but juliets has one of the most impossible to read baddie games ever, so I doubt she actually is.

Lynch Rabbit... I mean Zombrella! No, wait. I don't know what I mean...

I disagree. I do think Juliets is difficult to read most times, but I think she is civ here. I think the "case" against her is silly and that those gunning for her are most likely bad.

Also, whe Zomb said Aces was a huge asset, I immediately thought maybe she was somewhat referring to his playstyle in Death Note Mafia....he was being helpful there. Zomb, how many games have you played with Aces?

Linki @ MP...funny, Mine are:
1)llama
2)MM
3)Golden

linki linki linki linki

I think you're defending JC very hard after admitting your read on her is difficult, laughing away the case is a mice deflection and easy way to look nonchalant about your defense of JC. Then the whole NO U following......... you know that's not really very smart.

You has BTSC with Her?

Since we are doing suspect lists, I will give it a shot.

1. Zomba
2. Rabbit
3. Dom (too quiet for my liking. I'm used to a more aggressive Dom)
4. Ricochet

linki: 5. Elohcin

Guess I'll make a suspect list while we're at it.

1) juliets
2) Zomba
3) MP
4) Aces
5) Ricochet (llama is onto something there)

llama, what do you think about juliets?

I'm really having a hard time with this lynch. Plus my sister calls me like 5 mins ago to talk, I had to tell her I have Mafia to vote in. She thinks I'm a little crazy but got off the phone.

Ok, here's a start of a list.
MM - I feel like he was called out on the self vote and then people came to his rescue. I liked LC's point but wasn't completely sold. MP points out he's done it a lot recently, MM then proves he hasn't. To me that just adds to what LC said and he was a baddie in film that self-voted and could be playing the same safe tactic. Who knows. I'm not likely to vote for him at this point because it looks awfully like a bandwagon, which makes me think he's civ.

Juliets has been a little flip floppy but she still sounds like the charming civ she always does.

Zombie girl does seem a little different in this game and maybe she is struggling with being a baddie. I know I did my first.

I am going to go back and read Goldens case on Aces, I know them both well and maybe I can see something there. The first time I tried to read it my sister called.

I think every one else I have nothing to say about or look civvie. Except for Rabbit who is evil either way.

Stop posting, I'm running out of time here.

Ricochet is?

thellama73 wrote:Since we are doing suspect lists, I will give it a shot.

1. Zomba
2. Rabbit
3. Dom (too quiet for my liking. I'm used to a more aggressive Dom)
4. Ricochet

linki: 5. Elohcin

Is ricochet going to always be one of your suspects day 1. :P

I like your list MM. Although I must admit I am still a little confused about the juliets suspicion everyone has. I'm going to have to read it all again after the lynch is over.

Black Rock wrote:Juliets has been a little flip floppy but she still sounds like the charming civ she always does.

That's not how mafia works people.

rabbit8 wrote:Ricochet is?

Someone not playing this game.

rabbit8 wrote:

Elohcin wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Juliets does seem kind of bad this game, but juliets has one of the most impossible to read baddie games ever, so I doubt she actually is.

Lynch Rabbit... I mean Zombrella! No, wait. I don't know what I mean...

I disagree. I do think Juliets is difficult to read most times, but I think she is civ here. I think the "case" against her is silly and that those gunning for her are most likely bad.

Also, whe Zomb said Aces was a huge asset, I immediately thought maybe she was somewhat referring to his playstyle in Death Note Mafia....he was being helpful there. Zomb, how many games have you played with Aces?

Linki @ MP...funny, Mine are:
1)llama
2)MM
3)Golden

linki linki linki linki

I think you're defending JC very hard after admitting your read on her is difficult, laughing away the case is a mice deflection and easy way to look nonchalant about your defense of JC. Then the whole NO U following......... you know that's not really very smart.

You has BTSC with Her?

I do not have BTSC with Juliets. I said she usually is hard to read. I didn't necessarily defend her, I said the case against her is silly. I don't see why anyone would buy it unless they were bad and trying to cling to something in order to get a civ lynched.

You guys - I'm so sorry was stuck at work 3 hours longer than I was supposed to be now waiting foe dinner with my boss - tried to skim as best I could. But lots is going on and I am FAR TOO SOBER. my vote is pointless at this point so I'm voting for Aces because of the Christmas curse.

by the way....we really need to understand the difference between defending someone and saying that another player's case against a player is silly.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:llama, what do you think about juliets?

Juliets always reads civ when she is bad. She is not reading particularly civ to me this game, so I think she is civ. I hope that makes sense even though I know it doesn't.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Since we are doing suspect lists, I will give it a shot.

1. Zomba
2. Rabbit
3. Dom (too quiet for my liking. I'm used to a more aggressive Dom)
4. Ricochet

linki: 5. Elohcin

Is ricochet going to always be one of your suspects day 1. :P

The murderer on the Day 0 oll was someone not on the poll, so it wouldn't surprise me if Epi did the same thing with this one.

In a rush, sorry! Voting MM for the selfie.

(Though I should probably vote myself to be consistent with my earlier stance on voting low contributors )

Canucklehead wrote:In a rush, sorry! Voting MM for the selfie.

(Though I should probably vote myself to be consistent with my earlier stance on voting low contributors )

This vote hurts the most. Ow

Elohcin wrote:by the way....we really need to understand the difference between defending someone and saying that another player's case against a player is silly.

You assume I don't? Or are you trying to paint all my accusations in a negative light on purpose? I'm Silly, I don't understand? Let's make this about why it is silly. Please explain?

Metalmarsh, are you bad?

thellama73 wrote:Metalmarsh, are you bad?

No I am not. And I'm sure the host will break some rules to prove it too.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Metalmarsh, are you bad?

No I am not. And I'm sure the host will break some rules to prove it too.

See? Straightforward answers like that are why I suspect Ricochet and not you.

thellama73 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Metalmarsh, are you bad?

No I am not. And I'm sure the host will break some rules to prove it too.

See? Straightforward answers like that are why I suspect Ricochet and not you.

Remember me as the black llama that just couldn't make it.

voting aces, just arrived home with 1 minute to vote, dont wanna miss it

have been reading thread while in law houses and found myself agreeing with golden case, didnt have time to either respond or read very carefully, ill do it now and brb

rabbit8 wrote:Not that easy to get rid of me. I'm like a bad itch.

You mean you're like the product of a bad sexual encounter?

rabbit8 wrote:

Elohcin wrote:by the way....we really need to understand the difference between defending someone and saying that another player's case against a player is silly.

You assume I don't? Or are you trying to paint all my accusations in a negative light on purpose? I'm Silly, I don't understand? Let's make this about why it is silly. Please explain?

I was talking about the case on Juliets about her getting her times messed up.

Epignosis wrote:

rabbit8 wrote:Not that easy to get rid of me. I'm like a bad itch.

You mean you're like the product of a bad sexual encounter?

You know this, man..................

Bea is 1/4 of a non-participant.

^^^At least she voted (unlike Dom).