The Syndicate

I did not believe Simon and sig were teammates. However, I was leaning towards it I admit, and I needed a way to be sure. I sensed ulterior motives from a number of players including Simon and sig themselves, so I pulled some WIFOM out of my butt to gauge reactions. At the time I disagreed with either one of them being lynched, there really wasn't any information or connections that could be analyzed from their flip, whatever that may be. Not enough anyway. Now, there is tons of content related directly to the different interpretations of what's really going on, so a lynching of either of them (especially sig) will prove massively helpful. I am still not sure if they are teammates or not, but I think a sig lynch will be beneficial because for one, I think he is bad regardless of whether Simon slipped or not, if he is teammates then we've got two of the bosses with plenty of time left to get the third, and if he is good we can look at the Epi/Simon theory that has been proposed (and denied by Epi because he wouldn't bus his own son? Nonsense, of course he would) and see if it has any merit. A sig lynch will immensely beneficial, in stark contrast to both an Enrique lynch and a me lynch.

I left "too early" ambiguous on purpose.

linki - My death might be informative as well.

Actually, scratch that. There's only one baddie with a +0 vote today, the others need some shit activated to get their pluses.

sig wrote: My bet is Zebra and Epi could be on team team, if not both then one of them. I will also be keeping my eye on DDL.

Zebra's logic for voting for me is illogical she doesn't agree with EPi, yet she thinks I'm on a teamwith Simon and we are both scum and that I would make such a mistake.
My day 1 scum team
Simon
Epi
Zebra

I didn't agree with Epi's hypocrisy but I suspect that it was a gambit to gauge reactions. It's just too illogical to be anything else, knowing Epi. Not to mention I did the same thing at the same time. I do not know if you are on a team with Simon or not, and that is what I wish to find out. I have a baddie read of you regardless so the teammate possibility has little effect on my decision to vote for you. What mistake has anyone implied you making?

Know Zebra is using the classic scum argument for a lynch.
"Even if Sig isn't scum his lynch will be great for flip value" So when I flip civ Zebra can say it doesn't matter since I provided good info.

Two first that I would make such a post directed at Simon to begin with, drawing attention to myself and a possibly teammate.
Second that I would try to get Epi lynched .

Glorfindel
Soneji
Dragon D. Luffy
kneel4justice
DrWilgy
Metalmarsh89
agleaminranks
Epignosis
Simon
Scotty
FZ.
Matt
Sorsha
Spacedaisy
Boomslang
Typhoony
sig
Enrique

linki - Yeah it WILL provide good info. But even if it didn't, I still don't object to your lynch since I think you're bad regardless.

I wish there were more than 24 hours.
Right now it doesn't make sense for Zebra to have done what she did, if bad.

kneel4justice wrote:I wish there were more than 24 hours.
Right now it doesn't make sense for Zebra to have done what she did, if bad.

sig wrote:Know Zebra is using the classic scum argument for a lynch.
"Even if Sig isn't scum his lynch will be great for flip value" So when I flip civ Zebra can say it doesn't matter since I provided good info.

Two first that I would make such a post directed at Simon to begin with, drawing attention to myself and a possibly teammate.
Second that I would try to get Epi lynched .

But you won't flip civilian.

Whew, finished my skim/catchup, and just in the nick of time. I think the obvious interaction of Simon and Sig suggests that they're not mafia teammates; the link is too obvious, and I'm not going to get into the WIFOM game this early. That makes me suspicious of Epi for pushing the point so hard, but I can't be certain so early.

Zebra, on the other hand, feels really desperate, and I don't like the bit about postponing lynches one feels strongly about in order to get more information. I'm also suspicious of Sorsha for relying so heavily on meta information of past behaviors. I'll keep an eye on the latter and a vote on the former. *votes Zebra*

Enrique wrote:Zebra, you have 15 minutes to not die. Unless by some miracle you knew the votes were skewed in your favor.

What is the point of this post? It sounds threatening/taunting.

It's okay k4j, I'll catch you in the next game. Follow my reads and stay strong, everyone.

...

Or you folks could use these five minutes to lynch an actual baddie, but that's asking too much I guess.

linki@Boomslang - What am I desperate about? Where is my baddie motivation? I had a feeling your vote would be as opportunistic as Typhoony's.

Voting Enrique. Zebra & Epi, I think should follow

Boomslang wrote:Apologies for being gone all of today; it was my family's Christmas decorating session, which took up a lot of my time. I'm reading through now, thoughts/vote to come shortly. Because it kind of has to :/

Because of the underlined portion, in case anyone doesn't get why I thought that.

linki - Not enough time, and right now I'd prefer a sig lynch anyway.

I'd rather lynch Epi today, but a Zebra lynch is good to. If she flips mafia or civ my opinion of Epi won't have changed that much.

linki: why Enrique?

I have hope for you, town. A forest of hope, I mean it.

Who is an evil boss?

Poll ended at Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:09:29 pm


a2thezebra
5
FZ. (9), Dragon D. Luffy (13), Enrique (17), Typhoony (18), Boomslang (23) 21%

agleaminranks
0
No votes

Boomslang
1
Matt (6) 4%

Dragon D. Luffy
1
Metalmarsh89 (7) 4%

DrWilgy
1
Simon (15) 4%

Enrique
3
Spacedaisy (5), Glorfindel (12), kneel4justice (24) 13%

Epignosis
2
Sorsha (2), sig (3) 8%

FZ.
0
No votes

Glorfindel
0
No votes

kneel4justice
0
No votes

Matt
0
No votes

Metalmarsh89
1
agleaminranks (19) 4%

Scotty
0
No votes

sig
2
Epignosis (20), a2thezebra (21) 8%

Simon
0
No votes

Soneji
1
Scotty (11) 4%

Sorsha
2
DrWilgy (16), Soneji (22) 8%

Spacedaisy
0
No votes

Typhoony
0
No votes

Sockface! (host, non-players)
5
MovingPictures07 (1), Golden (4), Tranq (8), juliets (10), TheFloyd73 (14) 21%

Total votes : 24

sig wrote:I'd rather lynch Epi today, but a Zebra lynch is good to. If she flips mafia or civ my opinion of Epi won't have changed that much.

Good to KNOW.

sig wrote:I'd rather lynch Epi today, but a Zebra lynch is good to. If she flips mafia or civ my opinion of Epi won't have changed that much.

linki: why Enrique?

Hahahahahaha you better be lynched tomorrow.

sig wrote:Know Zebra is using the classic scum argument for a lynch.
"Even if Sig isn't scum his lynch will be great for flip value" So when I flip civ Zebra can say it doesn't matter since I provided good info.

Two first that I would make such a post directed at Simon to begin with, drawing attention to myself and a possibly teammate.
Second that I would try to get Epi lynched .

It really depends on how its framed. If someone finds two people equally suspicious but one of their lynches would potentially offer more info, it only makes logical sense to vote for that one. If the person comes across as suspecting someone else more than who they're voting for and they're voting the seemingly less suspected of the two with the reason for it being potential info, thats when some alarm bells should be ringing.

Nice ninja Epi

I'll say this again - based on her behaviour and the tone of her posts so far this game, I cannot conclude that she has an alignment to the Mafia. Further, I think eliminating her to be a mistake and if I'm correct, one that we may ultimately regret.

sig wrote:I'd rather lynch Epi today, but a Zebra lynch is good to. If she flips mafia or civ my opinion of Epi won't have changed that much.

linki: why Enrique?

I don't think Zebra is bad, because she she did was pointless and suicidal, if she is. And based off people with other votes, I felt that Enrique was the most suspicious based off the taunting tone when he told zebra she had 15 minutes to save herself. And I didn't think that you were bad, so I didn't want to join in lynching you

a2thezebra has been lynched. She was:


Day 1 has ended.

It is now Night 1. You have 24 hours to send in your Night PMs.

Well, that sucks.
Sorry we didn't get to play longer together, zebra. One of these days..

So guess Zebra wasn't scum.

I could buy a Enrique/Epi team.

sig wrote:So guess Zebra wasn't scum.

I could buy a Enrique/Epi team.

Of course you can. You are BAD. With Simon.

kneel4justice wrote:

Enrique wrote:Zebra, you have 15 minutes to not die. Unless by some miracle you knew the votes were skewed in your favor.

What is the point of this post? It sounds threatening/taunting.

The baddies have poll manipulating powers. I got confused by Zebra switching her vote for me when it could've saved her.

Gotta admit I had a tiny heart attack when I realized the deadline had passed, opened this thread, and saw you vote for me. I'm so over that shit. *shakes fist at Tree Mafia*

ugh rip zebra. I'm used to agreeing with you a lot, but this time I think you got it all wrong. I'm sorry.

kneel4justice wrote:Well, that sucks.
Sorry we didn't get to play longer together, zebra. One of these days..

One of these days indeed! I'm not going anywhere.

I'd played but half a game with Zebs and even I could see she wasn't Mafia. I wonder what that says about anyone else that had played with her more extensively and had a different opinion

sig wrote:So guess Zebra wasn't scum.

I could buy a Enrique/Epi team.

Not gonna lie, this is a bit concerning..why Enrique? Why teammates with Epi? I need to reread to see if you were suspicious of himself prior to now, the last bit of the day was crazy and fast. But it feels like you just selected his name because I just suspected him myself. And I would think that after you were just proven incorrect about zebra, you might be willing to reconsider Epi? So, please explain this more in depth.

I'll be back later. Hopefully I can find some time to reread too

Glorfindel wrote:I'd played but half a game with Zebs and even I could see she wasn't Mafia. I wonder what that says about anyone else that had played with her more extensively and had a different opinion

Five of us voted for Zeeb, six including Epig. It wouldn't be Mafia if people didn't get things wrong.

I find Enrique taunting of Zebra to be scummy, know that I see how Zebra flipped. I recall being pinged by something else as well.

Kneel I'm more confident in my Epi read then my Zebra read.

i wasnt taunting her jeez

sig wrote:Kneel I'm more confident in my Epi read then my Zebra read.

Explain to me how that works.

Im mostly drunk but even intoxixated I can see that that lynch shouldn't have happened.

I think next lynch should be either Epi, sig, or Simon. At least 1 has to be Mafia, no?

Scotty wrote:Im mostly drunk but even intoxixated I can see that that lynch shouldn't have happened.

I think next lynch should be either Epi, sig, or Simon. At least 1 has to be Mafia, no?

You are a fool. Sober up.

Epignosis wrote:

Scotty wrote:Im mostly drunk but even intoxixated I can see that that lynch shouldn't have happened.

I think next lynch should be either Epi, sig, or Simon. At least 1 has to be Mafia, no?

You are a fool. Sober up.

Yes, dad.

Weakest Day 1 I've ever seen. Get your heads out of your underwear.

There goes the highest posting civ. 12/10 everyone... 12/10.

Epi, what made it weak in your book?

DrWilgy wrote:There goes the highest posting civ. 12/10 everyone... 12/10.

Epi, what made it weak in your book?

That we didn't listen to him?

As of right now I agree with drunk Scotty.

Bye Zeebs

Matt wrote:Bye Zeebs

ih beleive inn yuo

Don't worry Zeebs, you will be avenged with Glorfindel's death and Spacedaisy's ensuing tears.

Enrique wrote:

kneel4justice wrote:

Enrique wrote:Zebra, you have 15 minutes to not die. Unless by some miracle you knew the votes were skewed in your favor.

What is the point of this post? It sounds threatening/taunting.

The baddies have poll manipulating powers. I got confused by Zebra switching her vote for me when it could've saved her.

Gotta admit I had a tiny heart attack when I realized the deadline had passed, opened this thread, and saw you vote for me. I'm so over that shit. *shakes fist at Tree Mafia*

ugh rip zebra. I'm used to agreeing with you a lot, but this time I think you got it all wrong. I'm sorry.

Thanks. I didn't realize that this was in reference to her changing her vote, I can better read its tone now.

Glorfindel wrote:

Enrique wrote:

FZ. wrote:I love that Matt has all the mafia figured out.
I always wanted to play a game where everyone names who they think the mafia members are on the first day, based on gut feeling of day 0 or day 1, and then we look at the list at the end of the game and see who's intuition we should rely on in the future.

For the fun of it.

Glorfindel
Matt
sig

Four posts in almost 48 hours and the justification for his vote on me is "For the fun of it"? This was followed by Matt inviting Boomslang to join in on a vote on me and after being challenged by Spacedaisy, Matt changes his vote TO Boomslang. I don't like what I'm seeing here and I'm wondering if this exchange was an indication of something more sinister? I may change my vote later but for now, I'm prepared to vote for Enrique. I think that if he should turn out to be Mafia, it may give us something more to work with.

Oh my bad, basically Enrique, Boomslang, and I rocked the house as Mafia in MP's super awesome Pet Sounds game. You can see the imaginary winner's banner in my signature, but anywho, inviting Boomslang to vote with me and Enrique was a nod to that classic game, nothing more. Voting for Boomslang was also for funsies, although I think it was either FZ or k4J who said "Peeps better be voting for real reasons". But like, Day 1 so whatevs.

Enrique wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:I'd played but half a game with Zebs and even I could see she wasn't Mafia. I wonder what that says about anyone else that had played with her more extensively and had a different opinion

Five of us voted for Zeeb, six including Epig. It wouldn't be Mafia if people didn't get things wrong.

Let me understand this, you are saying that the six of you 'just got it wrong'? You are asking me to believe that there was no Mafia on her wagon?

Sorry zebra. I really thought you were bad.
I need to go and read what happened since I left but where did all the zebra votes come from? I really hate that I'm never awake when the day ends. It sucks.

By the way, why can't we see the poll? I had to go to the other thread for lack of time.

I'll be back later to catch up and see what happened.