Death Note Mafia [END]

[AceofSpaces]

@MP, Will we be told when the secret word has been found, Sock-Kira?

[Elohcin]

Hahaha why is Elo posting fangirl pictures of L

It's not L. It's the tongue thing.

I don't get it either.

We just watched episode 17 where L ties a cherry stem in a knot with his tongue. I was a teenage girl in the 90's. Being able to do such a think makes you a good kisser So...I think L must be a good kisser. Hmmm....is Epi L?

[Elohcin]

You know what, fuck it. I'm gonna vote Epi now. He is either a baddie pulling this stunt, or he is somehow not a baddie, but completely disinterested in making any kind of sense. Dead weight either way. Voting now :P

Dead Weight.

I am suddenly interested in this "dead weight" claim.

Why do you keep posting the words "dead weight"?

How about we all stop talking and go watch Episode 17.

[Turnip Head]

Lmao Elo.

[Epignosis]

18, Elohcin. 18. 17 was the intense scene in the back of the car. Although, that relates to us as well, no?

You know what, fuck it. I'm gonna vote Epi now. He is either a baddie pulling this stunt, or he is somehow not a baddie, but completely disinterested in making any kind of sense. Dead weight either way. Voting now :P

Dead Weight.

I am suddenly interested in this "dead weight" claim.

Why do you keep posting the words "dead weight"?

We just viewed episode 18, and the phrase "dead weight" was mentioned a few times in a critical scene.

If it's a coincidence, it's an interesting one.

If not, then this post:

I got a bit of flak for even mentioning the Shinigami eyes. However, consider this: Does DharmaHelper know the show? If he does, then his "If I remember rightly from the show" comment is just to make it seem like this knowledge isn't a Google away. He is bullshitting you, folks. He is feigning ignorance of things he knows. And that's a fact.

Quite the conspiracy you've uncovered there Epi. I saw Death Note in its entirety years ago. I don't feel like googling every little detail

Is misleading.

The brain makes connections like these. Mine did.

[thellama73]

The next installment of Snowman's Note will begin on Night 4.

Addendum:

I have a bit more time to start this now, and I thought I'd ask the thread.

So, folks, want to concentrate purely on lynch discussion today or do you want me to provide the next installment of Snowman's Note as well?

Next installment please.

I think we could use a good distraction

[Elohcin]

See...I thought it was 18, but then after the episode, netflix automatically switches to the next episode and I waited a few minutes and it still said 18....so I thought I must have been mistaken and it was 17.

[Elohcin]

oh...and yes, you resort to craziness when you are young, dating, and eyes are everywhere...pure craziness.

[bea]

@ llama - thanks - I will look into it. I don't have the same feels you have about zombra - but I get why you have them. I think your hesitation is wise.

linkie - based on the fact that snowman triggered the vote -

Imma try ziltoid. and also kraftwerk and talking heads just cuz.

@ eloh - interesting - I suppose epi could be L - if kissing is the criteria I'm fail then at being able to confirm or deny.

llama - VERY good point - So we are sold then that MM and TH are also anti detective based on this and their early votes? I would think if the early vote thing was an issue for more than one person - MP would have balanced it across the board.... But - I TOTALLY get what you are saying re: MM and TH.

I spent most of today worrying about not talking about lynches - and thinking that it'd mean most likely that someone like made would get lynched on "we semi-discussed him nothing more to see here" late last second bandwaggon.

linki - eloh - what do you think about the game we are playing? do you have suspects? who? why? after the last game, I'm looking for your imput into things and I'm seeing little - that makes me a sad

[Epignosis]

oh...and yes, you resort to craziness when you are young, dating, and eyes are everywhere...pure craziness.

You almost crashed into a wall and killed us both when that guy came with a flashlight and peeked in on us. Pond St. Never forget.

[Matahari]

I reread TH today. 23 pages of one-liners (and most of them made me laugh), but at least he was consistent. No change that I could see from day 1 (when he wasn't the first voter) to day 2&3, when he was the first. That doesn't make him bad, and it doesn't lay claim to civvie-ness either. (I believe that word can be found in the mafia dictionary, it replaced townie-ness)

I do think he has been inviting votes though. Its almost like he has either been daring people to vote him, or inviting them. Maybe he can't be lynched, or maybe he achieves something if he gets the majority of votes.

Or maybe he has a new play style, but I doubt it. I'd appreciate some comments on the above graph, though.

[Elohcin]

@TH...I was suggesting we all hush and watch 1 b/c of the dead weight comment, not b/c of the cherry stem

@ bea...I think this game is fun but nuts. Confusing. I actually think it would have made more sense if I were not watching the show too. B/c in the show right now...Light is not kira and has no memory of being kira and he is working WITH the detectives to FIND kira. So....its all a bit confusing in my brain. Not only am I trying to figure out WHO is bad, but I am trying to figure out what it MEANS to be bad. I will figure it all out eventually I guess. In the show, at this point, the yotsuba have control of the kill. However they talk as if there is still a person (kira) instructing them on what to do. Its weird. Just don't mind me.

I think I mostly suspect quiet players at the moment. If I were a kira, I would do the kills and keep my mouth shut.

linki: Epi. Shhhhhhhhh!

[thellama73]

I reread TH today. 23 pages of one-liners (and most of them made me laugh), but at least he was consistent. No change that I could see from day 1 (when he wasn't the first voter) to day 2&3, when he was the first. That doesn't make him bad, and it doesn't lay claim to civvie-ness either. (I believe that word can be found in the mafia dictionary, it replaced townie-ness)

I do think he has been inviting votes though. Its almost like he has either been daring people to vote him, or inviting them. Maybe he can't be lynched, or maybe he achieves something if he gets the majority of votes.

Or maybe he has a new play style, but I doubt it. I'd appreciate some comments on the above graph, though.

Maybe if we vote for him, he will explode and kill the people who voted for him. Maybe he is not really TH at all, but a secret ghost-sock account masquerading as him. Maybe the world will end tomorrow.

Maybe we should spend less time inventing hypothetical reasons not to vote for someone who is acting suspicious.

[Epignosis]

Matahari- this astounds me: Why would you read 23 pages of Turnip Head but defer to the opinions of others?

[Matahari]

I reread TH today. 23 pages of one-liners (and most of them made me laugh), but at least he was consistent. No change that I could see from day 1 (when he wasn't the first voter) to day 2&3, when he was the first. That doesn't make him bad, and it doesn't lay claim to civvie-ness either. (I believe that word can be found in the mafia dictionary, it replaced townie-ness)

I do think he has been inviting votes though. Its almost like he has either been daring people to vote him, or inviting them. Maybe he can't be lynched, or maybe he achieves something if he gets the majority of votes.

Or maybe he has a new play style, but I doubt it. I'd appreciate some comments on the above graph, though.

Maybe if we vote for him, he will explode and kill the people who voted for him. Maybe he is not really TH at all, but a secret ghost-sock account masquerading as him. Maybe the world will end tomorrow.

Maybe we should spend less time inventing hypothetical reasons not to vote for someone who is acting suspicious.

I see you misunderstand my post. I'm thinking of voting him. But- I don't want to do something without some convo first. Why do you think he is posting the way he is? I find it to be very, "I don't care if I get votes" type of posting.

[Matahari]

Matahari- this astounds me: Why would you read 23 pages of Turnip Head but defer to the opinions of others?

See my post above. I don't trust the way he is coming across, and I half expect a trick of some kind. But I've been told many times that I overthink stuff. Do you think I'm asking needless questions?

[thellama73]

I see you misunderstand my post. I'm thinking of voting him. But- I don't want to do something without some convo first. Why do you think he is posting the way he is? I find it to be very, "I don't care if I get votes" type of posting.

I think h is posting the way he is:
1) to amuse himself
2) to clog up the thread with unproductive chatter
3) to be able to say "look, I'm participating!"
4) for additional reasons known only to himself

[thellama73]

I am glad we're talking about lynches now, but find it rather remarkable that everyone except AceofSpaces came in soliciting the opinions of others rather than putting forth their own.

Nice job for taking a stand, AceofSpaces, although I disagree with you.

[DharmaHelper]

18, Elohcin. 18. 17 was the intense scene in the back of the car. Although, that relates to us as well, no?

You know what, fuck it. I'm gonna vote Epi now. He is either a baddie pulling this stunt, or he is somehow not a baddie, but completely disinterested in making any kind of sense. Dead weight either way. Voting now :P

Dead Weight.

I am suddenly interested in this "dead weight" claim.

Why do you keep posting the words "dead weight"?

We just viewed episode 18, and the phrase "dead weight" was mentioned a few times in a critical scene.

If it's a coincidence, it's an interesting one.

If not, then this post:

I got a bit of flak for even mentioning the Shinigami eyes. However, consider this: Does DharmaHelper know the show? If he does, then his "If I remember rightly from the show" comment is just to make it seem like this knowledge isn't a Google away. He is bullshitting you, folks. He is feigning ignorance of things he knows. And that's a fact.

Quite the conspiracy you've uncovered there Epi. I saw Death Note in its entirety years ago. I don't feel like googling every little detail

Is misleading.

The brain makes connections like these. Mine did.

So to be clear, you're placing suspicion on me for a lore based reason?

[Epignosis]

Matahari- this astounds me: Why would you read 23 pages of Turnip Head but defer to the opinions of others?

See my post above. I don't trust the way he is coming across, and I half expect a trick of some kind. But I've been told many times that I overthink stuff. Do you think I'm asking needless questions?

No, I think you're okay.

TH is up to something. His celebrated bad guy persona is to be helpful and comforting (see Harry Potter). I think he's doing an about-face to mess with people.

[Epignosis]

18, Elohcin. 18. 17 was the intense scene in the back of the car. Although, that relates to us as well, no?

You know what, fuck it. I'm gonna vote Epi now. He is either a baddie pulling this stunt, or he is somehow not a baddie, but completely disinterested in making any kind of sense. Dead weight either way. Voting now :P

Dead Weight.

I am suddenly interested in this "dead weight" claim.

Why do you keep posting the words "dead weight"?

We just viewed episode 18, and the phrase "dead weight" was mentioned a few times in a critical scene.

If it's a coincidence, it's an interesting one.

If not, then this post:

I got a bit of flak for even mentioning the Shinigami eyes. However, consider this: Does DharmaHelper know the show? If he does, then his "If I remember rightly from the show" comment is just to make it seem like this knowledge isn't a Google away. He is bullshitting you, folks. He is feigning ignorance of things he knows. And that's a fact.

Quite the conspiracy you've uncovered there Epi. I saw Death Note in its entirety years ago. I don't feel like googling every little detail

Is misleading.

The brain makes connections like these. Mine did.

So to be clear, you're placing suspicion on me for a lore based reason?

Nope. I'm suspecting you because of what you said.

[DharmaHelper]

As it relates to episode 18.

[Epignosis]

As it relates to episode 18.

Another delicious coincidence, isn't it?

Do you recall episode 18 at all? Without googling it?

[AceofSpaces]

I am glad we're talking about lynches now, but find it rather remarkable that everyone except AceofSpaces came in soliciting the opinions of others rather than putting forth their own.

Nice job for taking a stand, AceofSpaces, although I disagree with you.

I do it for the people

[DharmaHelper]

As it relates to episode 18.

Another delicious coincidence, isn't it?

Do you recall episode 18 at all? Without googling it?

For your sake I'm watching it now on Netflix. Though I will be completely upfront and say I'm not likely to take anything you say seriously or consider it in any way shape or form.

[Epignosis]

As it relates to episode 18.

Another delicious coincidence, isn't it?

Do you recall episode 18 at all? Without googling it?

For your sake I'm watching it now on Netflix. Though I will be completely upfront and say I'm not likely to take anything you say seriously or consider it in any way shape or form.

And that approach will be different how, exactly?

[AceofSpaces]

Has Made posted at all during this day cycle? I don't think he has.

[DharmaHelper]

As it relates to episode 18.

Another delicious coincidence, isn't it?

Do you recall episode 18 at all? Without googling it?

For your sake I'm watching it now on Netflix. Though I will be completely upfront and say I'm not likely to take anything you say seriously or consider it in any way shape or form.

And that approach will be different how, exactly?

I mean, I was perfectly content to at least remotely consider what you had to bring to the table before your 200,000 word essay. So, there's that.

[Epignosis]

After that episode, I assumed DharmaHelper might actually be a detective after all.

Unfortunately, he needed to watch the episode again, so he was not catching what I was throwing.

My position that he is not a detective yet stands.

[Epignosis]

I mean, I was perfectly content to at least remotely consider what you had to bring to the table before your 200,000 word essay. So, there's that.

Those were characters, not words.

[DharmaHelper]

I mean, I was perfectly content to at least remotely consider what you had to bring to the table before your 200,000 word essay. So, there's that.

Those were characters, not words.

They certainly lacked character

[thellama73]

Has Made posted at all during this day cycle? I don't think he has.

Can you blame him?

[Epignosis]

If I vote to lynch DharmaHelper, will anyone support me?

[thellama73]

If I vote to lynch DharmaHelper, will anyone support me?

I'm not sold on him yet, personally.

[DharmaHelper]

Those puzzles offered me a brief respite, but I can see the tide is quickly rising again, so I'll check you fly cats later.

[Marmot]

I'm interested in the early voting for TH, given the revelation that it was a mechanic for Snowman.

What do you mean?

Line 14. Snowman had to be one of the first five people to vote. With the early voting, it makes me wonder if a similar mechanic is in Turnip Head's role (and MM's, while we're at it).

Oh, and didn't llama vote early too?

He did.

My vote was impulsive.

[Epignosis]

If I vote to lynch DharmaHelper, will anyone support me?

I'm not sold on him yet, personally.

Why not?

[Epignosis]

I'm interested in the early voting for TH, given the revelation that it was a mechanic for Snowman.

What do you mean?

Line 14. Snowman had to be one of the first five people to vote. With the early voting, it makes me wonder if a similar mechanic is in Turnip Head's role (and MM's, while we're at it).

Oh, and didn't llama vote early too?

He did.

My vote was impulsive.

I can guess why.

[AceofSpaces]

Has Made posted at all during this day cycle? I don't think he has.

Can you blame him?

No, but it is a little weird to see 22 players alive and only 12 posting. Are puzzles really that scary?

If I vote to lynch DharmaHelper, will anyone support me?

Maybe? Probably not. I think that the discourse you two have been having for the last four days actually serves as a pretty solid shield *against* voting for either of you, which worries me a little.

[Epignosis]

Puzzles aren't scary. They're boring in context. And I think for those that are good at puzzles, a way of looking helpful.

[bea]

Has Made posted at all during this day cycle? I don't think he has.

His MO this game is to come into lynch on the second day part of it - be lost and throw a vote - you'd think this far into the game - he'd know not to skip days w/o checking the thread....but it is what it is.

linki- I think it's easy for DH and Epi to focus on each other because they are both so vocal. I think they should quit reading each other's posts tbh and focus on other things atm. Or - to summarize Aces - quit chewing on each other's bones! There's lots of other bones to go around!

[DharmaHelper]

Has Made posted at all during this day cycle? I don't think he has.

His MO this game is to come into lynch on the second day part of it - be lost and throw a vote - you'd think this far into the game - he'd know not to skip days w/o checking the thread....but it is what it is.

linki- I think it's easy for DH and Epi to focus on each other because they are both so vocal. I think they should quit reading each other's posts tbh and focus on other things atm. Or - to summarize Aces - quit chewing on each other's bones! There's lots of other bones to go around!

I'm trying to do just that. Anyway, I really should step away for a bit.

[Epignosis]

Every time I go after DH, he pulls this. I'm sorry. I think he's faking and full of shit. How can I express that without hurting his feelings?

[Epignosis]

I am going to take the initiative and vote DharmaHelper now. I think he's disingenuous, and I think he's gone after me for sloppy reasons.

[bea]

Puzzles aren't scary. They're boring in context. And I think for those that are good at puzzles, a way of looking helpful.

and also this. I am personally really bad at those things so I avoid them - I've been trying to contribute to the conversation that's not decoding, because that's maybe how I can help. For as little help as I am.

I wouldn't be suprised if there was a Kira or sypathizer in the coders. It's an easy way to look helpful. What I would personally look for is who was silent and then suddenly contributing. Boo for example seems to have piped up in the coding when previously he was only about lynching llama....

@ DH - what about boo?

@ epi - IDK if you can - maybe let someone else see something in DH's posts? I get where you are coming from, but it doesn't seem to be productive - what do you think of boo?

linkie - epi - you couldn't have waited like 4 minutes for me to deal with my laggy computer and linki?

[Marmot]

I dislike this puzzle. No one is talking about who we should lynch, and I think that is a problem.

I was trying to finish this puzzle as quickly as possible so we'd only have lynches to talk about later.

If that's the case, then I am up for the challenge.

Bring it sista

Nah. I'm pro-detective. Feeding the troll would go against that.

One could argue that Snowman was pro-detective.

Did I miss where MM explained his vote for TH? He's another one I think fits the distraction/LC murder criterion.

I'm not trying to distract. I'm trying to move on.

llama - VERY good point - So we are sold then that MM and TH are also anti detective based on this and their early votes? I would think if the early vote thing was an issue for more than one person - MP would have balanced it across the board.... But - I TOTALLY get what you are saying re: MM and TH.

False. Just false.



And you're all welcome for puzzle-solving......

[thellama73]

If I vote to lynch DharmaHelper, will anyone support me?

I'm not sold on him yet, personally.

Why not?

He just doesn't feel bad to me. Your feud with him feels like two type-A civs clashing. You may be right, but I can't see it.

[Epignosis]

@ epi - IDK if you can - maybe let someone else see something in DH's posts? I get where you are coming from, but it doesn't seem to be productive - what do you think of boo?

linkie - epi - you couldn't have waited like 4 minutes for me to deal with my laggy computer and linki?

Sorry bea. If Kira kills me, I want my vote to count.

I think boo is evil. Lynch him too.

However, I already voted, and so I won't be making extensive cases or clogging up the thread.

[juliets]

Did I miss where MM explained his vote for TH? He's another one I think fits the distraction/LC murder criterion.

I'm not trying to distract. I'm trying to move on.

So MM you forgot to answer llama's question. Have you explained your vote for TH?

[Marmot]

My vote was impulsive.