MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 2:17 am
if we flipped the below names
Enrique
lost monkey
made
master radiation
nacho
I'm calling 2 wolves at min and nothing of value lost.
Where's the mass kill button?
So town has chopped two relatively low posting / low presence players and missed twice.
But you want to keep trying that strategy.
your intended objection is a false equivalence argument
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:01 am
by Master Radishes
What do Falc and Kaz say about SSF? I'm too lazy to iso him, but he does have a recognisable scum meta usually. If they give a read follow it.
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:01 am
by MacDougall
if you think that in this game we have drawn a scumteam with 0 slankers you will need to explain what makes that rational?
history speaks to the contrary. If anything the fact that we have chopped two slanky poos and missed makes the slanky poo pool more rich with floaters.
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:02 am
by MacDougall
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:01 am
What do Falc and Kaz say about SSF? I'm too lazy to iso him, but he does have a recognisable scum meta usually. If they give a read follow it.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 2:17 am
if we flipped the below names
Enrique
lost monkey
made
master radiation
nacho
I'm calling 2 wolves at min and nothing of value lost.
Where's the mass kill button?
So town has chopped two relatively low posting / low presence players and missed twice.
But you want to keep trying that strategy.
your intended objection is a false equivalence argument
Your face is a false equivalence argument.
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:03 am
by MacDougall
And any way the intention of my point was more to highlight how low of a bar the town are setting. There are very few players providing me with any WIM related reason to town read them.
Which means this is a certain town L already frankly.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 2:17 am
if we flipped the below names
Enrique
lost monkey
made
master radiation
nacho
I'm calling 2 wolves at min and nothing of value lost.
Where's the mass kill button?
So town has chopped two relatively low posting / low presence players and missed twice.
But you want to keep trying that strategy.
your intended objection is a false equivalence argument
Your face is a false equivalence argument.
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:04 am
by Master Radishes
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:01 am
if you think that in this game we have drawn a scumteam with 0 slankers you will need to explain what makes that rational?
history speaks to the contrary. If anything the fact that we have chopped two slanky poos and missed makes the slanky poo pool more rich with floaters.
Not 0 slankers. Probably some.
But instead of firing blindly and lazily into the slanky pool let's do some actual work and find the active scum. And even if we miss we force said active scum to Do Stuff.
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:05 am
by MacDougall
I ask myself "if someone were to leap from the shadows with a realistic sounding case on a player how many players would I be comfortable arguing in defense of"
The answer is like 3.
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:06 am
by Master Radishes
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:03 am
And any way the intention of my point was more to highlight how low of a bar the town are setting. There are very few players providing me with any WIM related reason to town read them.
Which means this is a certain town L already frankly.
Yeah it doesn't feel good.
I probably won't help though tbh. I'm just here to kill a few hours in my day.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:01 am
if you think that in this game we have drawn a scumteam with 0 slankers you will need to explain what makes that rational?
history speaks to the contrary. If anything the fact that we have chopped two slanky poos and missed makes the slanky poo pool more rich with floaters.
Not 0 slankers. Probably some.
But instead of firing blindly and lazily into the slanky pool let's do some actual work and find the active scum. And even if we miss we force said active scum to Do Stuff.
I am not doing the thing you are saying actually.
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:06 am
by Master Radishes
Why aren't we chopping Gavial.
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:07 am
by MacDougall
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:06 am
Why aren't we chopping Gavial.
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:06 am
Why aren't we chopping Gavial.
Should we be?
Iunno. I'll come up with reasons later.
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:10 am
by MacDougall
I was just pinged by the desire to create new wagons but I think @Long Con is a better choice for an abstract random wagon that has no basis therefore it does.
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:10 am
by MacDougall
[VOTE:
long con] aubergine Lets try it
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:07 am
by Made
Hi friends! Gonna do some old fashion backwards reading @ me if you want to call me to the present!
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:09 am
by Made
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:10 am[VOTE:
long con] aubergine Lets try it
Right out the gate, my tin foil alarms are going off. Lacking context from my last read, TSP and LC fit into the same place in my mind this game, low content, potentially shifty but like nothing affirmative to send you in that direction. Do you think LC has significantly more scum equity?
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:06 am
Why aren't we chopping Gavial.
Should we be?
Iunno. I'll come up with reasons later.
He made me life, therefore...Town!!
This is gonna be heady, but I feel like Mac going for the take this serious route rather than the snarky route which is far more boring but pointed if Mac is trying to save a teammate.
I’m really hoping to clear my Mac paranoia today, but the problem with mafia Gods is their scum range is massive
NP: When you were young by The Killers
(“He doesn’t look a thing like Jesus” etc etc)
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:01 am
if you think that in this game we have drawn a scumteam with 0 slankers you will need to explain what makes that rational?
history speaks to the contrary. If anything the fact that we have chopped two slanky poos and missed makes the slanky poo pool more rich with floaters.
Not 0 slankers. Probably some.
But instead of firing blindly and lazily into the slanky pool let's do some actual work and find the active scum. And even if we miss we force said active scum to Do Stuff.
I am not doing the thing you are saying actually.
Are you not confident about Mog/Marmot?
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:29 am
by Made
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:05 am
I ask myself "if someone were to leap from the shadows with a realistic sounding case on a player how many players would I be comfortable arguing in defense of"
The answer is like 3.
My pool feels bigger than that
Off the top, no player list
Kyle
KZA
Tim
You
Scotty
(This is when I pulled up the player list)
Daisy
Jack
Gavial
I’d defend Enrique on his absent Dad meta, and someone said lost monkey was the same
I think the main reason I don’t have a read on nacho is cuz I don’t know them v well and so I don’t have a solid read cuz I haven’t looked properly
I guess with 3 days in, if we don’t hit scum tn its pretty bad, but we’re deff not lost yet...
With that in mind, I think I remember in Zelda mash and from some video mafia you start getting defeatist at this point in games as town, so I’m gonna pretend your town for now on Sad boy meta and move on to Long Con as the person I want to find a reason to town read
(Also people who played Spider-Man, do you remember how Mac got towards the end of that game when town kept getting souped? I feel like I remember Mac being less sad boy more mad boy, but I can’t quite remember anything specific)
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:31 am
by Made
@Nachomamma8 hi friend! Have we played together??
The dead player is voting you, and that’s prob a bad sign. Do you and Nanook have much history??
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 2:17 am
if we flipped the below names
Enrique
lost monkey
made
master radiation
nacho
I'm calling 2 wolves at min and nothing of value lost.
Where's the mass kill button?
So town has chopped two relatively low posting / low presence players and missed twice.
But you want to keep trying that strategy.
your intended objection is a false equivalence argument
Your face is a false equivalence argument.
I want to read MR as weak town based off this exchange and thought process and move on so...
Weeeeeeeee
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:37 am
by Made
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 2:17 am
if we flipped the below names
Enrique
lost monkey
made
master radiation
nacho
I'm calling 2 wolves at min and nothing of value lost.
Where's the mass kill button?
Honest, as a slanker pool, this isn’t half bad. It’s looking like MR is pushing rn which is great, Enri and Monkey don’t exist generally, I am supatown. That just leave nacho as a a fairly harder to ignore question mark in the slanker pool.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:22 am
in fairness this wagon has kza and tim on it and the other one has wolves on it so meh
At this point wolves are bound to be on both wagons for cred.
Relevant: jack has built up this entire story today slickly feeling out that marmot is bad, launching that case against Daisy pitting them as teammates and attempting be like “guys guys, marmot IS bad, ok? I was just trying to keep a pertinent discourse and basically thought that all along”
That’s how I’m reading it anyway.
But I don’t think jack is getting lynched today.
Who really spearheaded the marmot wagon? I kinda just voted based on gut things I’ve been kinda vague about
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:14 am
I wish Mog was 1 vote behind Marmot so that I could tie the wagons AND tilt Scotty.
Lol why would that tilt me?
Cause you keep saying I could be scum with Marmot so me being like “I’m not gonna vote Daisy....I’m gonna save Marmot” (while intending to vote marmot and being a day out from the deadline) would set off your alarm bells.
T/t????
This is the iffest interaction I think I’ve read yet. Not sure if I particularly like it
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:49 am
by Made
#4033 makes me fairly sure Daisy is town. She’s reading really genuine. I don’t have experience with her scum game, so I could just be wrong, but I’m cool moving on like how I’m moving on from Mac
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:53 am
by Made
@DaisyCloud
If you were to convince everyone in thread of one thing (that didn’t involve Jack) right now, what would you convince them of?
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:55 am
by Made
Nachomamma8 wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 10:45 pm
Yeah not really interested in flipping Mog right now either.
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:59 am
by Made
I started skipping around, but here are all the loose threads up to when I stopped reading in order:
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 2:03 am
who had votes first among marmot, made, and qwags? did they all sort of rise up equally from the start?
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 1:56 am
noting Jack not voting for mog like he said he would
Syn wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 6:43 pm
@Marmot are you here
if so, is there anything especially valuable you might be able to tell us D3 if you survive
and no, going to Sheogorath doesn't count
Not really. I have some utility in my role, mostly positive. I learned that a particular role has a particular ability when it visits a particular shrine last night, but I don't think it's worth sharing.
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 12:48 am
jack not even acknowledging that I outed him. that I proved he lied.
I’m letting this play out.
u posted this simply to try and trigger me. I suggest u not do that. remember this is a game. it is supposed to be fun for everyone. remember that. this is nitba game wherr u r playing with a bunch of robots. we are real people. please do not speak to me in this way anymore.
I posted this to let you and others know that I see your posts but that it is doing more to further my reads and the game in general to not directly respond and be like “I’m not lying blah blah blah” and instead see where you and others go with this.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:10 am[VOTE:
long con] aubergine Lets try it
Right out the gate, my tin foil alarms are going off. Lacking context from my last read, TSP and LC fit into the same place in my mind this game, low content, potentially shifty but like nothing affirmative to send you in that direction. Do you think LC has significantly more scum equity?
No it was just firing off a dart at a direction nobody has yet
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 5:01 am
if you think that in this game we have drawn a scumteam with 0 slankers you will need to explain what makes that rational?
history speaks to the contrary. If anything the fact that we have chopped two slanky poos and missed makes the slanky poo pool more rich with floaters.
Not 0 slankers. Probably some.
But instead of firing blindly and lazily into the slanky pool let's do some actual work and find the active scum. And even if we miss we force said active scum to Do Stuff.
I am not doing the thing you are saying actually.
Are you not confident about Mog/Marmot?
Not really
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 7:20 am
by MacDougall
Made's little spurt of effort here was pretty fine I guess.
If you were to convince everyone in thread of one thing (that didn’t involve Jack) right now, what would you convince them of?
that idk Marmot’s alignment. that i think Scotty can't be evil. wait that is 2 things. I guess basically that idk what I am doing. thst there is too many whst ifs. that im tired. and thst there is too many players not talking. that KZA is right, that it is messed up that basically the past 3 day phases we been having the same 5 people talking. that Marmot’s probably frozen. that Marmot is going to be heavily missed by me because they are probably scum. but thry were do nice and good to talk to.
that it isn't fair so many players are expecting like 5 people to solve game.
that nacho looks like they are kinda being game solveybso it makes me wonder where the heck they been for 2 and a half game phases.
and if Nacho is supposed to be town then monkey and Enrique r probably wolves.
that I got 0 clue who replaced quin. I know someone did iirc?
that even tho Mog replaced Flanders that slot doesn't look too good. that i must be really dumb because I don't get why Mac and Tim sus Mig so much.
that I wonder what KZA and Gavial are doing. supposedly they r clear because mech reasons. but they both seem to just pop in once in awhile and pop back out.
that idk what tim is doing because he is mostly talking about himself and making weird arguments with mog.
that i'm tired.
must be nice to be you. getting a clear from KZA so highly doubt u get voted. so u can just coast and just do pop ins. hope u don't die tonight. I'm 99.99% sure regarding of KZA's alignment that u r likely town like he says. and the last time KZA cleared someone they died.
but we don't talk about that now do we? that top players talk so freely and casually about their actions and make claims and such and live. that's madness.
maybe that is my problem. I should advocate that we all mass claim and speak freely of our nite actions. cause that's the only pro-town way to play. and give a heavy stink eye to anyone who dare thinks this is a bad idea and disagrees. yep, Made this be it. what I want to convince everyone of. the most pro town thing to do.
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 8:06 am
by Master Radishes
Ah yes, the mass claim tactic. That always goes so well for town.
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 8:07 am
by Master Radishes
Wait Gavial is cleared? Someone explain.
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 8:08 am
by DaisyCloud
the fact that scotty and Jack r now saying the actual post that jack pinged me in and wanted me to reply to isn't Jack's case on me but another post is, and basically the second post is a summary of the first and is basically just minus the quotes is so messed up.
I'm being gaslighted.
the fact that I literally put in all the links to posts to show that jack lied about the syn thing and jack isn't acknowledging it is messed up. that he is waiting for players to draw their own conclusions.
like, no. u lied. you used that lie to spin a false narrative that I killed syn because of it. I showed where u was dead wrong and lied and now instead u and scotty are saying that wasn't even your case against me.
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 8:09 am
by DaisyCloud
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 8:07 am
Wait Gavial is cleared? Someone explain.
supposedly Gavial has a watcher ability. tracked dead Nanook nite 1. then nite 2 watched KZA and nothing happened. this supposedly makes him town. oh and he hates me. this is pro towner right here
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 8:10 am
by Master Radishes
Daisy, is lying a definite scum tell in your opinion?
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 8:11 am
by DaisyCloud
oh and supposedly the way I talk to Marmot is hecka scumbly and we are team wolf together because of it.
like no.
Re: The Elder Scrolls [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed May 19, 2021 8:14 am
by DaisyCloud
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 8:10 am
Daisy, is lying a definite scum tell in your opinion?
if it is the way jack is doing it then yes it is.
I get that town people can and do lie. but there is a difference in the way jack is doing it.
he used a particular part of a convo I had with syn, and he carefully left the last portions of that convo out. and then using thst said I killed syn because syn had doubts and sussed me. all lies. the way I voted day 2 did not go the way jack says. not at all.
