The Syndicate

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:53 pm**

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:51 pm To anyone who cares about actually solving the gane:

* I am quite clearly I player. I think that its kinda evident on any of my stream of posts (The solving focus discussion or the D2 intent to vote someone too) . Manny , a player from my home community also heavily said that I was obv player. I also at this point hardclaimed player

* I still fail to see anyone actually interacting with me and do an actual casing or try to solve me

* Last EoD should be almost mech clearing for me. For both the way I didnt know it was EoD (lol) and how I still ended up with my wagon tied. For D2 to a scum tl be top wagon their teammates should be MIA or not care which we all should know is unlikely lol

* Even comparing the votes at EoD its kinda apparent which were the scummy and silent ones (the ones on me),meanwhile the ones on hk came from people that were talking in the EoD and were activ on thread

* Tutuu being killed should also be clearing. And not only for the fact of WIFOM they shielded me EoD.
It hows that scum was hunting for players on the hollowkatt wagon. If I were a mafia player it should be safe to assume that another scum player would be with me and there would be no need to do 'player hunting' on the wagon..

Case done tyvm

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:54 pm**

I might be a catboy, but at least I am not Katze ewww

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:57 pm**

Now I have confbiased myself in the read tht there was a scum on my wagon and that gave scum the info/thought that there were at least 2 players on the hollowkatt wagon and what led them to kill in that wagon ignoring the player scoit they got n1 thanks to the deleter

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:59 pm**

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:57 pm Now I have confbiased myself in the read tht there was a scum on my wagon and that gave scum the info/thought that there were at least 2 players on the hollowkatt wagon and what led them to kill in that wagon ignoring the player scoit they got n1 thanks to the deleter

The flail is your weapon of choice

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:00 pm**

katze wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:33 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:31 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:30 pm Also, Scotty voting hk I think is pretty villagery of them at EoD.

This read is assuming that mafia kinda knew I had more player equity than hk which I think is prob safe to do
Wolves would want to vote out players over npcs??????????????????????????????
thats the point hes making

"scotty v for voting HK over me when i have more player equity"

Define player equity?

Do I have this?

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:02 pm**

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:32 pm @RondoDimBuckle when you get here ping me and tell me what was your case on me about and what is your read on me tyty

It was just a bullshit push to see how the people around you would react and get info for after you flipped but someone jumped on very late and I thought tied the wagon so I unvoted and tied the wagons.

I just picked your post that looked slightly suspicious if I put it in a context of a wolf killing TSP and then pointing out exactly what you did to try and get cred as town when the reason you killed him is to be able to talk about it.

Like I mean there has to be a reason TSP was killed and its a good enough reason to push you in this game state.

You could still be wolf but It was an arbitrary choice to push content

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:02 pm**

I think its valuable for scum to be in leading wagons either wagon to obtain more info in the possible numer of players either way regardless so yeh I think the kill on tutuu could be indicative of player hunting in hk wagon, which means hk wagon is likely clear and my wagon has more odds to hit a mafia.

That or scum didnt care, was on neither wagon amd hunted on thewagon which won at the end ig but that doesnt add up so nicely with wasting the scout result. Knowing that the hk wagon had at least 2/6 players fit more nicely in a world where scum decided to nk outsude a mech confirmed player

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:03 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:00 pm
katze wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:33 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:31 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:30 pm Also, Scotty voting hk I think is pretty villagery of them at EoD.

This read is assuming that mafia kinda knew I had more player equity than hk which I think is prob safe to do
Wolves would want to vote out players over npcs??????????????????????????????
thats the point hes making

"scotty v for voting HK over me when i have more player equity"
Define player equity?

Do I have this?

Havent read much from you so I think not.

Player equity means a slot more likely to be a player rather than npc

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:04 pm**

You could still be a wolf Santy and killing me last night would only push more votes onto you but I have been alive for 2 nights now and I should be dead so I am going to start looking into who I am shielding and that is Ender and Michelle and a few others because at this point the only reason I am alive is because wolves want me to be.

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:05 pm**

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:53 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:44 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:44 pm [VOTE: enderwiggin] aubergine
Lmao.
What were you even expecting with that vote tbh

I just wanted to see what you'd do after you made the comment about regarding anyone who voted you.

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:05 pm**

@santygrass You could also have gone into my iso and found the case on me if you were truely interested in interacting with me. So its a point against you tbh

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:09 pm**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:02 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:32 pm @RondoDimBuckle when you get here ping me and tell me what was your case on me about and what is your read on me tyty
It was just a bullshit push to see how the people around you would react and get info for after you flipped but someone jumped on very late and I thought tied the wagon so I unvoted and tied the wagons.

I just picked your post that looked slightly suspicious if I put it in a context of a wolf killing TSP and then pointing out exactly what you did to try and get cred as town when the reason you killed him is to be able to talk about it.

Like I mean there has to be a reason TSP was killed and its a good enough reason to push you in this game state.

You could still be wolf but It was an arbitrary choice to push content

What reactions did you get? In the end you ended up voting me in a sniping way so you should saw something about someone else that made me look scummy right? And like, blatantly ignoring the EoD read that was on thread of me being derpcleared too

My point on TSP also highlited that a Nin-Syndicater wouldnt even know Tsp had any relevancy, and if you dont know a player why risk killing a potential NPC? Lol
I think the kill just for 'blaming afterwards' is kinda moot , specially with so many people killing to only have a push doesnt make any sense, dont you agree?

And its not only 'push' when you put me at risk lf dying when I am a town player. It could be considered only a pus if you didnt went for the kill at EoD, but you didnt went that way

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:10 pm**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:04 pm You could still be a wolf Santy and killing me last night would only push more votes onto you but I have been alive for 2 nights now and I should be dead so I am going to start looking into who I am shielding and that is Ender and Michelle and a few others because at this point the only reason I am alive is because wolves want me to be.

There is a lot of people tho so i dont think this is a correct assumption to make regardless

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:11 pm**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:05 pm @santygrass You could also have gone into my iso and found the case on me if you were truely interested in interacting with me. So its a point against you tbh

Nah, I wanted to hear your words and how you summarized it more than reading the case. Live Interaction always Goat

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:13 pm**

lolwolves

lolwilage

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:14 pm**

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:11 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:05 pm @santygrass You could also have gone into my iso and found the case on me if you were truely interested in interacting with me. So its a point against you tbh
Nah, I wanted to hear your words and how you summarized it more than reading the case. Live Interaction always Goat

Live interaction always goat you say.
Somehow I have my doubts about that.

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:15 pm**

@EnderWiggin talk to m about your reads in both nutella and Rondo when u can ty.

Think Im going to dip out and come tomorrow and do some actual solving wowee

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:16 pm**

i’m just taking ender’s deleter claim at face value so i can put a feather in my cap for mildly pushing back on his wagon

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:16 pm**

Posts are boring

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:17 pm**

i don’t actually know what santy’s alignment is but it feels important to figure out

@Manny @SilverKeith just gonna sheep whatever your read is

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:17 pm**

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:15 pm @EnderWiggin talk to m about your reads in both nutella and Rondo when u can ty.

Think Im going to dip out and come tomorrow and do some actual solving wowee

I'm dismissing Nutella rn for reasons.

Rondo is in his townish meta and I have a good reason to believe he's town town here.

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:18 pm**

For Rondo it's because he would know changing his style of play would get him sussed and if he randed wolf here he might go back to his standard trolling just to fall back on something he knows he can get townread for.

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:18 pm**

That's the dumb reason.

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:18 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:13 pm lolwolves

lolwilage

One can probably find both just by looking for the biggest noobs at this game.
Or the thinskinned ones idk

Gonna assume Santy is in the game. Don‘t know about Rondo. But if Rondo PC, then town.

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:19 pm**

i have no real reads and cannot care until we have an actual player flip lol smh

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:20 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:19 pm i have no real reads and cannot care until we have an actual player flip lol smh

Well you're voting right then I guess

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:20 pm**

12 people exit the game and we have as many players now as we started with.

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:20 pm**

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:14 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:11 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:05 pm @santygrass You could also have gone into my iso and found the case on me if you were truely interested in interacting with me. So its a point against you tbh
Nah, I wanted to hear your words and how you summarized it more than reading the case. Live Interaction always Goat
Live interaction always goat you say.
Somehow I have my doubts about that.

Skill Issue indicative then smh.

Live interacting helps you figure out stuff by a lot. There are people who are good at it when they are wolfing tho, but you kinda end up knowing to which slots you should be more wary of general tone I think. Live Interacting best way to find ObvVillas

Sure there are other good ways but the quickes and more entertaining is that to me.

(Also just in case I am not using Skill Issue in a derogatory/insulting way just using it to express disagreement here. Skill Issue is never an insult. And if you think that it is an insult then you have Skill Issue)

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:21 pm**

i dont rly trust the rondo townreads necessarily but it feels annoying to push so i wont

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:21 pm**

Royal Rumble indeed.

They were all jobbers.

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:21 pm**

[VOTE: Guillotine] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:22 pm**

Think I'll sleep on that for now

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:24 pm**

k fine

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

shrug if i go back to his iso i might still agree with ran but i cant think of a good vote atm

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:25 pm**

Don‘t hate the guillo vote. The whole wolfsiding NPC play might as well be some excessively gregarious openwolfing

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:25 pm**

maybe jack? lol

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:26 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:21 pm Royal Rumble indeed.

They were all jobbers.

I think I‘m missing context here

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:33 pm**

Fluffy rabbit probs the most terrifying avi in the room.
I‘m allergic to those too coincidentially.

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:35 pm**

When the shizzlewhizzle becomes the sneezenwheezle with a cat and a rabbit in here

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:36 pm**

Several Americans have complained that I've put the eod in my timezone.

As a world citizen I must remind you that we as non American internet users spend most of our life working around the fact that the majority of the global social internet is American.

I am sure in this one game you can handle having to do your own timezone conversion. It's not hard. Google is your friend. I know you, Americans, are used to have everything fed to you through a tube but I will not be your tube this time.

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:37 pm**

Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:33 pm Fluffy rabbit probs the most terrifying avi in the room.
I‘m allergic to those too coincidentially.

one game i played with rabbit he wolf read someone for finding his avi scary

u better watch out

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:37 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:36 pm Several Americans have complained that I've put the eod in my timezone.

As a world citizen I must remind you that we as non American internet users spend most of our life working around the fact that the majority of the global social internet is American.

I am sure in this one game you can handle having to do your own timezone conversion. It's not hard. Google is your friend. I know you, Americans, are used to have everything fed to you through a tube but I will not be your tube this time.

based

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:39 pm**

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:51 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:48 pm No decent, kind-hearted syndicate veteran would kill tutuu, tu be honest.
Are you decent and kind-hearted?

Of course.

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:39 pm**

The internet is U.S. soil.

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:40 pm**

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:09 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:02 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:32 pm @RondoDimBuckle when you get here ping me and tell me what was your case on me about and what is your read on me tyty
It was just a bullshit push to see how the people around you would react and get info for after you flipped but someone jumped on very late and I thought tied the wagon so I unvoted and tied the wagons.

I just picked your post that looked slightly suspicious if I put it in a context of a wolf killing TSP and then pointing out exactly what you did to try and get cred as town when the reason you killed him is to be able to talk about it.

Like I mean there has to be a reason TSP was killed and its a good enough reason to push you in this game state.

You could still be wolf but It was an arbitrary choice to push content

What reactions did you get? In the end you ended up voting me in a sniping way so you should saw something about someone else that made me look scummy right? And like, blatantly ignoring the EoD read that was on thread of me being derpcleared too

My point on TSP also highlited that a Nin-Syndicater wouldnt even know Tsp had any relevancy, and if you dont know a player why risk killing a potential NPC? Lol
I think the kill just for 'blaming afterwards' is kinda moot , specially with so many people killing to only have a push doesnt make any sense, dont you agree?

And its not only 'push' when you put me at risk lf dying when I am a town player. It could be considered only a pus if you didnt went for the kill at EoD, but you didnt went that way

I cant vote you in a sniping way if I was the first on you and then the last on you and then off you. That makes no sense.

I dont disagree with what Ender said on this. All the TSP kill tells us is that there is one (1) wolf that is a syndicate member, possibly even an old one that is afraid of TSP or knows who he is. Also they could have just rolled a dice and picked who to kill. Highlighted feels like word salad

There doesnt HAVE to be a reason to kill TSP. There is likely one but until we flip an actualy player you are chasing your own tail. And until we flip a wolf it wont be much help to think about it TBH, he was an NPC and I feel like a lot of energy is being put into keeping attention there from you. It could be genuine but atm I am less interested in TSP till I have more information

I could always be a wolf, I have a large range and people never full clear me. I have said it was an arbitrary choice. I could have easily been having this conversation with Scotty for his weird comment yesterday on how I feel ike HR Rondo wolf play when that is not what I am doing.

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:42 pm**

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:10 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:04 pm You could still be a wolf Santy and killing me last night would only push more votes onto you but I have been alive for 2 nights now and I should be dead so I am going to start looking into who I am shielding and that is Ender and Michelle and a few others because at this point the only reason I am alive is because wolves want me to be.
There is a lot of people tho so i dont think this is a correct assumption to make regardless

sure there are a lot of people but you would care about my thoughts on your slot and later people will as well after you flip (If they insist on flipping you today or wolves kill you tonight) since you have claimed player. It is an odd claim for a wolf to make I will be fully fair to your slot. It means you have to survive in a no doc format to FX and not be killed past day 8. Not easy for a wolf. So thinking about that you're probably just town if you are a player because no wolf makes that claim because its just a huge focus on why didnt you die last night every night till the end of the game.

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:43 pm**

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:11 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:05 pm @santygrass You could also have gone into my iso and found the case on me if you were truely interested in interacting with me. So its a point against you tbh
Nah, I wanted to hear your words and how you summarized it more than reading the case. Live Interaction always Goat

well I wont be re-stating a case you havent read

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:46 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:16 pm i’m just taking ender’s deleter claim at face value so i can put a feather in my cap for mildly pushing back on his wagon

Or equally he is a wolf deleter, but again that would be a dumb claim (as above with Santy) so Ender can be town if he full claims deleter and not just softs it. But knowing Ender thats a dumb claim for him to make at this point so its likely he is just bullshitting as an NPC or I am just providing him cover as town so he surives another night. Lets see wolves wrestle with that

(I was going to hard attack Ender today because I am still not dead and I am hard defending him so he has a vested interest in my life but his claim completely changes that if he is claiming, but he would know that is what I was about to do today so it could be why he claimed to get another day of life and deal with me tonight. So I will say he is town unless I die tonight and then figure him out yourself)

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:47 pm**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:17 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:15 pm @EnderWiggin talk to m about your reads in both nutella and Rondo when u can ty.

Think Im going to dip out and come tomorrow and do some actual solving wowee
I'm dismissing Nutella rn for reasons.

Rondo is in his townish meta and I have a good reason to believe he's town town here.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:18 pm For Rondo it's because he would know changing his style of play would get him sussed and if he randed wolf here he might go back to his standard trolling just to fall back on something he knows he can get townread for.

Nah even if I rolled wolf here I would be doing the same. I dont care about losing games to establish meta you should know that.

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:48 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:19 pm i have no real reads and cannot care until we have an actual player flip lol smh

thanks for the rootin tootin nomination btw you can be town for it

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:49 pm**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:46 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:16 pm i’m just taking ender’s deleter claim at face value so i can put a feather in my cap for mildly pushing back on his wagon
Or equally he is a wolf deleter, but again that would be a dumb claim (as above with Santy) so Ender can be town if he full claims deleter and not just softs it. But knowing Ender thats a dumb claim for him to make at this point so its likely he is just bullshitting as an NPC or I am just providing him cover as town so he surives another night. Lets see wolves wrestle with that

(I was going to hard attack Ender today because I am still not dead and I am hard defending him so he has a vested interest in my life but his claim completely changes that if he is claiming, but he would know that is what I was about to do today so it could be why he claimed to get another day of life and deal with me tonight. So I will say he is town unless I die tonight and then figure him out yourself)

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