The Syndicate

Prisoner 277058 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Prisoner 277058 wrote:Prison did not agree with me.

Why hello. Who should we lynch?

I couldn't possibly comment. It is my understanding however that the goal is to lynch those with whom your morals conflict.

Prisoner 208986 wrote:Ok, I'm here a little late. First has someone already explained the ika "slip"? If so I'll go back and find it. If not could someone explain it?

a2thezebra wrote:

Prisoner 208986 wrote:Ok, I'm here a little late. First has someone already explained the ika "slip"? If so I'll go back and find it. If not could someone explain it?

ika didn't slip.

a2thezebra wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:What lynches are you sold on, 509?

I just got out of jail. I'm never going back. That means I'm not planting my flag into any camps until I know I've made the best principled choice.

You've voted for ika, I see. Why?

I think him and the warden are in cahoots.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

indiglo wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:My recollection is that there was a core of us uncomfortable with the 3 main candidates: ika, gleam and LC. So we discussed just pooling our votes and going elsewhere. A few names were tossed around, 1 them eventually being Fuzz. SVS jumped on, did a quick ISO and found something off. The thread was moving SUPER fast, and there was MUCH discussion about whether or not the "off thing" was really a thing, or just some hare brained tangent.

I felt better about the "off thing" from Fuzz than I did about the 3 candidates, so popped my vote on there and hoped for the best. Interesting thing was, after we had gotten Fuzz up to being the leader (many Gleam voters hopped off Gleam and onto Fuzz) LC came in and tied ika with Fuzz. Then lastly, sig jumped on and put ika in the lead. Fuzz still got lynched though.

Does that help at all? It was a crazy day, to say the least.

It helps a great deal, thank you. The context of the lynch progression is crucial to my being able to fully grasp each important variable. When you say "the off thing" in reference to Fuzz, what do you mean?

S~V~S wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

RadicalFuzz wrote:Breaking the tie, voting for ika.

ika

This is a very opportunistic vote and probably scum.

I kind of agree. This is his last postmentioning ika:

RadicalFuzz wrote:Matt is either playing from a high tightrope or is town. The risk/reward for his actions feels like high/medium if he's scum.
Sloonei is my strongest townread, as his posts have consistently made logical sense and he's avoided tunnelling on one player or interaction. It feels like he's trying to solve the game, and that's good.
You look town-y to me, for similar reasons to Sloonei. The difference is your tone reads as a little early to reach a conclusion, like you're content with finding enough facts to reach a conclusion at all, not necessarily the correct one.

Spirityo still has said next to nothing and we're a few hours out from Day 2 ending. His four posts consist of the following. A "linki - that's a good idea", one "I agree with Sloonei about the cultural differences between RYM & Syndicate", a greeting to everyone, and an apology for missing the vote. Absolutely zero content whatsoever.
Enrique I don't like because of his refusal to explain his vote on Day 1. That entire situation read as if he was nervous, if that makes sense, like he didn't have a reason at the time of his vote but decided he needed one.

I refuse to touch the Silverwolf/ika thing with a 39 & 1/2 foot pole. There's some logic to be found in interactions regarding them, but so much emotion that I'd probably end up stepping on someone's toes and they'd get mad at me for their decision to wear sandals.

My vote's going to be used to prevent a tie today. I'm indifferent as to where specifically it goes.

Turnip the reason you should vote for me is so you stop twiddling your thumbs about who to vote for.

Llama can you elaborate on your conclusion that Luffy's posts scream "cop?"

S~V~S wrote:ebwop, what changed? Why did he grab his 39 1/2 foot pole & start touching?

Prisoner 277058 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Prisoner 208986 wrote:Ok, I'm here a little late. First has someone already explained the ika "slip"? If so I'll go back and find it. If not could someone explain it?

ika didn't slip.

See now things are interesting. I read just a few pages back some yuckity yuck said that ika showed knowledge she shouldn't have had. Is that not a slip?

a2thezebra wrote:

Prisoner 277058 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Prisoner 208986 wrote:Ok, I'm here a little late. First has someone already explained the ika "slip"? If so I'll go back and find it. If not could someone explain it?

ika didn't slip.

See now things are interesting. I read just a few pages back some yuckity yuck said that ika showed knowledge she shouldn't have had. Is that not a slip?

It's not true. ika knows what ika knows, but no conclusions of that nature can be deduced from the thread.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:What lynches are you sold on, 509?

I just got out of jail. I'm never going back. That means I'm not planting my flag into any camps until I know I've made the best principled choice.

You've voted for ika, I see. Why?

I think him and the warden are in cahoots.

I'm not here for jokes. Why did you vote for ika?

Prisoner 277058 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Prisoner 277058 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Prisoner 208986 wrote:Ok, I'm here a little late. First has someone already explained the ika "slip"? If so I'll go back and find it. If not could someone explain it?

ika didn't slip.

See now things are interesting. I read just a few pages back some yuckity yuck said that ika showed knowledge she shouldn't have had. Is that not a slip?

It's not true. ika knows what ika knows, but no conclusions of that nature can be deduced from the thread.

So you're calling that person a liar?

a2thezebra wrote:

Prisoner 277058 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Prisoner 277058 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Prisoner 208986 wrote:Ok, I'm here a little late. First has someone already explained the ika "slip"? If so I'll go back and find it. If not could someone explain it?

ika didn't slip.

See now things are interesting. I read just a few pages back some yuckity yuck said that ika showed knowledge she shouldn't have had. Is that not a slip?

It's not true. ika knows what ika knows, but no conclusions of that nature can be deduced from the thread.

So you're calling that person a liar?

That or mistaken.

Prisoner 277058 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Prisoner 277058 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Prisoner 277058 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Prisoner 208986 wrote:Ok, I'm here a little late. First has someone already explained the ika "slip"? If so I'll go back and find it. If not could someone explain it?

ika didn't slip.

See now things are interesting. I read just a few pages back some yuckity yuck said that ika showed knowledge she shouldn't have had. Is that not a slip?

It's not true. ika knows what ika knows, but no conclusions of that nature can be deduced from the thread.

So you're calling that person a liar?

That or mistaken.

If you don't think ika slipped do you think ika is bad?

a2thezebra wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:What lynches are you sold on, 509?

I just got out of jail. I'm never going back. That means I'm not planting my flag into any camps until I know I've made the best principled choice.

You've voted for ika, I see. Why?

I think him and the warden are in cahoots.

I'm not here for jokes. Why did you vote for ika?

No. You don't understand.

Answer my question and I'll answer yours.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:This is a point that has likely already been discussed to some degree, but I'll raise it again anyway: Fuzz was lynched despite trailing in his tally by one vote. That likely means there were extra votes in play somewhere, probably via the loan shark(s). The late votes that secured the lynch, like Turnip Head and Sloonei -- how have those been received?

I'm reminded of a particular bus vote by Russ in the Talking Heads game that earned him town credibility for nearly the whole game before the town finally figured it out.

S~V~S wrote:Since ika was the counterwagon to Fuzz who WAS bad, I find it hard to see him as bad, although I guess anything is possible.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:What lynches are you sold on, 509?

I just got out of jail. I'm never going back. That means I'm not planting my flag into any camps until I know I've made the best principled choice.

You've voted for ika, I see. Why?

I think him and the warden are in cahoots.

I'm not here for jokes. Why did you vote for ika?

No. You don't understand.

Answer my question and I'll answer yours.

I'm not here to bargain either. I've just come here from jail, I have immediately set to my task, and that is all anyone can possibly ask of me. Your request is unreasonable. Mine is not. If you will not answer it, then I will assume you have no answer and color you a suspect accordingly.

indiglo wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:This is a point that has likely already been discussed to some degree, but I'll raise it again anyway: Fuzz was lynched despite trailing in his tally by one vote. That likely means there were extra votes in play somewhere, probably via the loan shark(s). The late votes that secured the lynch, like Turnip Head and Sloonei -- how have those been received?

I'm reminded of a particular bus vote by Russ in the Talking Heads game that earned him town credibility for nearly the whole game before the town finally figured it out.

Both of these players' names have been mentioned a couple of times as suspicious. So far, I don't believe any major cases have been made on either of them, but I may be forgetting something again. (But I don't think I am.)

S~V~S wrote:Since ika was the counterwagon to Fuzz who WAS bad, I find it hard to see him as bad, although I guess anything is possible.

S~V~S wrote:Since ika was the counterwagon to Fuzz who WAS bad, I find it hard to see him as bad, although I guess anything is possible.

Quin wrote:Should I be under the impression that Matt 1.0 is a prisoner? hyuckhyuckhyuck

Quin wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Since ika was the counterwagon to Fuzz who WAS bad, I find it hard to see him as bad, although I guess anything is possible.

I'd like to see what other suspicions you may or may not actually have.

Quin wrote:Should I be under the impression that Matt 1.0 is a prisoner? hyuckhyuckhyuck

a2thezebra wrote:

Quin wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Since ika was the counterwagon to Fuzz who WAS bad, I find it hard to see him as bad, although I guess anything is possible.

I'd like to see what other suspicions you may or may not actually have.

What do you mean by this?

Prisoner 740359 wrote:

Quin wrote:Should I be under the impression that Matt 1.0 is a prisoner? hyuckhyuckhyuck

Is this a joke?

Quin wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Quin wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Since ika was the counterwagon to Fuzz who WAS bad, I find it hard to see him as bad, although I guess anything is possible.

I'd like to see what other suspicions you may or may not actually have.

What do you mean by this?

I mean I'd like to see what suspicions SVS has that are not me.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Since ika was the counterwagon to Fuzz who WAS bad, I find it hard to see him as bad, although I guess anything is possible.

I've never understood this mindset, at least not the most general concept of it: that a baddie cannot be the counterwagon of another baddie. That would only indicate that the townies are on point, and I don't think that's outrageous. However, the development of the counterwagon and other contextual details could change my mind. Is there a reason specific to that context that makes you feel this way, or is it purely that ika was the counterwagon?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

DAY 2

Who arrested Tranq?

Poll ended at Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:45:05 pm


a2thezebra
1
Epignosis (27) 3%

agleaminranks
1
Scotty (4) 3%

Black Rock
0
No votes

Bullzeye
0
No votes

chaindeath
0
No votes

Dragon D. Luffy
2
thellama73 (2), chaindeath (26) 7%

DrWilgy
0
No votes

Enrique
0
No votes

Epignosis
3
Metalmarsh89 (8), a2thezebra (9), DrWilgy (10) 10%

Golden
1
Matt (13) 3%

ika
9
Quin (5), Nerolunar (6), agleaminranks (11), Soneji (12), Serge (14), RadicalFuzz (16), Enrique (23), Long Con (28), sig (29) 31%

Long Con
0
No votes

Matt
0
No votes

Metalmarsh89
0
No votes

Mongoose
0
No votes

Nerolunar
0
No votes

Quin
0
No votes

RadicalFuzz
8
Golden (17), ika (18), Silverwolf (19), indiglo (20), S~V~S (21), Dragon D. Luffy (22), Turnip Head (24), Sloonei (25) 28%

S~V~S
0
No votes

Scotty
0
No votes

Serge
0
No votes

sig
0
No votes

Silverwolf
0
No votes

Sloonei
0
No votes

Soneji
0
No votes

sprityo
0
No votes

thellama73
0
No votes

Turnip Head
1
Black Rock (15) 3%

Barney Fife (hosts, mod, non-players)
3
MovingPictures07 (1), Spacedaisy (3), nijuukyugou (7) 10%

Total votes : 29

Missing votes: Mongoose, sprityo

S~V~S wrote:Christ I need to type better.

a2thezebra wrote:

Quin wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Quin wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Since ika was the counterwagon to Fuzz who WAS bad, I find it hard to see him as bad, although I guess anything is possible.

I'd like to see what other suspicions you may or may not actually have.

What do you mean by this?

I mean I'd like to see what suspicions SVS has that are not me.

But that post that S~V~S made that you responded to had nothing to do with you. It seems like you wanted to accuse her of narrow focus at some point today but got impatient waiting for a proper opportunity.

Quin wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Quin wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Quin wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Since ika was the counterwagon to Fuzz who WAS bad, I find it hard to see him as bad, although I guess anything is possible.

I'd like to see what other suspicions you may or may not actually have.

What do you mean by this?

I mean I'd like to see what suspicions SVS has that are not me.

But that post that S~V~S made that you responded to had nothing to do with you. It seems like you wanted to accuse her of narrow focus at some point today but got impatient waiting for a proper opportunity.

I don't think it needs to be directed at me for me to say things. Would it have looked better if I didn't quote her at all? It really doesn't matter.

Quin wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Quin wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Quin wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Since ika was the counterwagon to Fuzz who WAS bad, I find it hard to see him as bad, although I guess anything is possible.

I'd like to see what other suspicions you may or may not actually have.

What do you mean by this?

I mean I'd like to see what suspicions SVS has that are not me.

But that post that S~V~S made that you responded to had nothing to do with you. It seems like you wanted to accuse her of narrow focus at some point today but got impatient waiting for a proper opportunity.

I don't think it needs to be directed at me for me to say things. Would it have looked better if I didn't quote her at all? It really doesn't matter.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

indiglo wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:This is a point that has likely already been discussed to some degree, but I'll raise it again anyway: Fuzz was lynched despite trailing in his tally by one vote. That likely means there were extra votes in play somewhere, probably via the loan shark(s). The late votes that secured the lynch, like Turnip Head and Sloonei -- how have those been received?

I'm reminded of a particular bus vote by Russ in the Talking Heads game that earned him town credibility for nearly the whole game before the town finally figured it out.

Both of these players' names have been mentioned a couple of times as suspicious. So far, I don't believe any major cases have been made on either of them, but I may be forgetting something again. (But I don't think I am.)

What's your take?

Thanks by the way for the details via the S~V~S quote.

a2thezebra wrote:

Quin wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Quin wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Quin wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Since ika was the counterwagon to Fuzz who WAS bad, I find it hard to see him as bad, although I guess anything is possible.

I'd like to see what other suspicions you may or may not actually have.

What do you mean by this?

I mean I'd like to see what suspicions SVS has that are not me.

But that post that S~V~S made that you responded to had nothing to do with you. It seems like you wanted to accuse her of narrow focus at some point today but got impatient waiting for a proper opportunity.

I don't think it needs to be directed at me for me to say things. Would it have looked better if I didn't quote her at all? It really doesn't matter.

Everything matters.

Prisoner 740359 wrote:Are votes changeable?

S~V~S wrote:Christ I need to type better.

S~V~S wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Since ika was the counterwagon to Fuzz who WAS bad, I find it hard to see him as bad, although I guess anything is possible.

I've never understood this mindset, at least not the most general concept of it: that a baddie cannot be the counterwagon of another baddie. That would only indicate that the townies are on point, and I don't think that's outrageous. However, the development of the counterwagon and other contextual details could change my mind. Is there a reason specific to that context that makes you feel this way, or is it purely that ika was the counterwagon?

It was a CFD, and Fuzz had ZERO votes when it started. There was some panic and some people pushing hard against the Fuzz wagon. Like Quin, and Fuzz himself had voted for ika, and kept his vote there. I guess it is possioble, but two others had 4 or 5 votes at that time, and I doubt they were all baddies. and ika would up with the most visible votes, even though Fuzz was lynched:

S~V~S wrote:

Quin wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Quin wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Quin wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Since ika was the counterwagon to Fuzz who WAS bad, I find it hard to see him as bad, although I guess anything is possible.

I'd like to see what other suspicions you may or may not actually have.

What do you mean by this?

I mean I'd like to see what suspicions SVS has that are not me.

But that post that S~V~S made that you responded to had nothing to do with you. It seems like you wanted to accuse her of narrow focus at some point today but got impatient waiting for a proper opportunity.

I don't think it needs to be directed at me for me to say things. Would it have looked better if I didn't quote her at all? It really doesn't matter.

Why would it look bad or good if you do or do not respond to a post where I did not mention you?

Why are you so worried about how it looks?

Quin wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Quin wrote:

a2thezebra wrote: But that post that S~V~S made that you responded to had nothing to do with you. It seems like you wanted to accuse her of narrow focus at some point today but got impatient waiting for a proper opportunity.

I don't think it needs to be directed at me for me to say things. Would it have looked better if I didn't quote her at all? It really doesn't matter.

Everything matters.

Okay, then what conclusion have you come to based on that post?

linki: You're interpreting it that way. It was a rhetorical question.