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Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 6]

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:36 pm
by Kylemii
last minute cfd on jay?

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 6]

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:37 pm
by Kylemii
just kidding

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 6]

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:40 pm
by Epignosis
Spoiler: show
Who means to cause us disorder?

Poll ended at Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:38 pmPlease note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

Dave
0
No votes


Voters: None

Dom
0
No votes


Voters: None

DrWilgy
3
18%


Voters: lapluie, Marmot, novaselinenever

Elohcin
0
No votes


Voters: None

Jackofhearts2005
1
6%


Voters: DrWilgy

lapluie
0
No votes


Voters: None

Long Con
0
No votes


Voters: None

Made
0
No votes


Voters: None

Marmot
6
35%


Voters: Kylemii, Jackofhearts2005, JaggedJimmyJay, Quin, speedchuck, Elohcin

novaselinenever
1
6%


Voters: Long Con

Quin
0
No votes


Voters: None

speedchuck
0
No votes


Voters: None

Hotaru (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
6
35%


Voters: juliets, nijuukyugou, Glorfindel, Epignosis, nutella, Sloonei


Total votes: 17

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 6]

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:42 pm
by lapluie
Tbh wilgy shoulda been lynched, he's not bothered to participate

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 6]

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:42 pm
by Epignosis
Image

Order is a quadratic thing. So is your victim.

Marmot has been lynched.

Spoiler: show
He was Goro.

It is now Night 6. You have 23 hours to submit your PMs.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 6]

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:44 pm
by Kylemii
alright cool

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 6]

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:44 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
:workit:

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 6]

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:44 pm
by lapluie
OKAY COOL this is great news.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 6]

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:46 pm
by lapluie
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:44 pm :workit:
you must be ecstatic , good work guys

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:47 pm
by Kylemii
glad that worked out haha

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 6]

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:50 pm
by Long Con
I love JaggedJimmyJay!

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:50 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Hot take: DrWilgy being the counterwagon is worth zero civilian credit points.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 6]

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:52 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Long Con wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:50 pm I love JaggedJimmyJay!
:cloud9:

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:56 pm
by Kylemii
Dear Mafia,

Killing me the first time was a mistake, you don't have to make the same mistake twice.

I forgive you.

Love,
Kylemii

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:57 pm
by lapluie
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:50 pm Hot take: DrWilgy being the counterwagon is worth zero civilian credit points.
figured :noble:

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:58 pm
by MacDougall
Rez plz

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:58 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
lapluie wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:57 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:50 pm Hot take: DrWilgy being the counterwagon is worth zero civilian credit points.
figured :noble:
To ensure I'm clear: I mean that Wilgy himself doesn't look any better to me. I'll have to assess the voting behaviors separately. I'm not bothered by your vote though.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:29 am
by Elohcin
well....you were right Jay. Good job guys!

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:59 am
by Jackofhearts2005
I got a feeling tonight's my night, guys. :(

I think I like this twist on the survivor role. Kano must be protown at some points and must be antitown at others. That is more urgency than a survivor, who does not care and tends to default to town just cause (minus claiming, which hurts the town) and is essentially mafia in and endgame with more than one goon left. Interesting alternative to a bounty hunter, too, who are also too easy to win as and have little urgency.[/ot}

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:02 am
by speedchuck
Cool stuff.

I wasn't around for deadline, and I'm glad I didn't need to be. On a side note, Super Mario Odyssey is amazing.

Another interesting observation: On D0, we voted for places to go. Now we have officially run out of places. I can only hope we don't loop around. I don't want a D8 remix of Chaosrealm.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:04 am
by Jackofhearts2005
I don't even know what the last couple places did.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:05 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Obviously, we now have to fight in the middle of New York City, as is tradition for these type of dimension hopping fate of the universe at stake superbattles.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:06 am
by Kylemii
speedchuck wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:02 am Cool stuff.

I wasn't around for deadline, and I'm glad I didn't need to be. On a side note, Super Mario Odyssey is amazing.

Another interesting observation: On D0, we voted for places to go. Now we have officially run out of places. I can only hope we don't loop around. I don't want a D8 remix of Chaosrealm.
oh fuck

day 7 outworld is less than great too

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:10 am
by Jackofhearts2005
"Let's go to the bad places first" they said. "Get them out of the way so we don't have to deal with them in endgame" they said.

Good thinking, me.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:47 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Marmot and Dave

Spoiler: show
Marmot wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:20 pm
rabbit8 wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:17 pm How da fua is there a case on Simon?

What about Dave? Or Eloh or......
Simon's more caseable than Dave. But if you make a case on Dave I'll read it.

Speaking of Elohcin, where is she. Oh I see she has a migraine.

That's a bit juicy. He specifically endorsed the casing of his teammate Simon instead of Dave. In some future scenario where Simon and Dave are both lynched, this'd be a nice platform for Marmot to rest on for credit if Dave is a civilian. If they're both mafia though then that'd mean Marmot pointed rabbit from one teammate to the other. It's plausible; I don't know that it's the most likely thing.

Spoiler: show
Marmot wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:25 pm Dave - Who is Dave? I have no reason to think Dave is a civilian. Even moreso than Simon, he's a good option for a vig kill because there is zero content. Simon has at least shown his head.

Oh dear. Not only is Dave a good vigilante option, he's a better vig option than Simon. :Uhh:

Spoiler: show
Marmot wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:14 pmWho's Dave? :3

He's Dave.

~~~

Conclusion: It looks to me like Dave is an unfortunate never-voting civilian. That invitation to vigilante kill him before Simon is hard to look past, even considering Marmot's love for WIFOM.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:57 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Marmot and Dom

Spoiler: show
Marmot wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:25 pm Dom - Dom... Is another vig option. Wow that sucks that we have several decent options for that.

He also offered up Dom on the vigilante platter. This time he didn't include the Simon comparison, for what that's worth. It'd have been redundant, since the Dave and Dom entries were adjacent in this post.

~~~

Conclusion: That's it. This says little to me. I might say Dom looks slightly better given that Marmot mentioned vig killing him at all, though it's less sparkly than Dave's.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:59 am
by Kylemii
[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] how do the numbers look now? are we still 2 away from game end? (assuming someone dies tonight)

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:08 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Kylemii wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:59 am @JaggedJimmyJay how do the numbers look now? are we still 2 away from game end? (assuming someone dies tonight)
If we consider Dave and Dom civilians for the worst-case scenario (an assumption I'd say is more evidence-based now than before), we proceed from this:

6 civilian votes (6-1+1), 4 mafia votes, 2 variable indy votes, and 2 phantom vote denials affecting any of the three factions.

To this:

6 civilian votes (6-1+1), 3 mafia votes, 2 variable indy votes, and 2 phantom vote denials affecting any of the three factions.

If one night kill of a civilian occurs, we're left at:

5 civilian votes (6-1+1), 3 mafia votes, 2 variable indy votes, and 1-2 phantom vote denials affecting any of the three factions.

Essentially, the game would remain in a pseudo-elimination phase. I don't think a mislynch would end the game because Dave and Dom are still living players, but the voting power would become extremely bleak. This all assumes my previous estimates were accurate. It'd really be unfortunate if either no-show is Liu Kang with the doublevote.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:11 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Pretty dang likely to not be mafia
Jack
LC
Lap
Kyle
Jimmy
Quin
Dom
Speedchuck
Dave

Everyone else
Made
Eloh
Wilgy
Nova


3 scum left. I'm pretty comfortable with Wily and Nova as bad.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:19 am
by lapluie
Yeah I don't like how wilgy didn't have a say to votes directed at him, instead he just placed random votes without contributing anything & even defending himself ... he would have gotten lynched today & he probably didn't have anything to back up. Shruh

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Day 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:21 am
by lapluie
DrWilgy wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:52 pmBloopp
What kinda post is this

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:22 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Alternative vote analysis:


We should have 10 non mafia vs 3 mafia.

10 non mafia votes, +1 Liu Kang (maybe) +ties Kung Lao (maybe) -1 (or -2 if he hits Liu Kang) Baraka and -1 for Shang Sung copying Baraka (50% chance the timing is right to use this). If you call Kung Lao basically a voice, this evens out to 9-10 non mafia votes. Minus Quin, Dave and Dom is 7 non mafia votes.

3 mafia votes. -1 Smoke (maybe). 2-3 mafia votes.

Assumptions are no additional vote powers, Kano being pro town until mafia has only 1 guy left, Ermac being pro town, good guys targeting well when it would otherwise be mylo.

Basically, the rez and the Nutella lynch amount to 2 skipped night phases while the Simon and Marmot lynches amount to 3 votes gone. So we were at mylo but lynching 3 mafia votes and skipping 2 night phases lets us afford a few mislynches. We've already used one on Nutella.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:37 am
by Kylemii
oh that's right.... Quin's in New Zealand

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:38 am
by Kylemii
how long is his trip for? when did he say he'd return?

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:48 am
by Marmot
Rezz please

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:34 am
by lapluie
Kylemii wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:38 am how long is his trip for? when did he say he'd return?
8th

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:20 am
by DrWilgy
lapluie wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:19 am Yeah I don't like how wilgy didn't have a say to votes directed at him, instead he just placed random votes without contributing anything & even defending himself ... he would have gotten lynched today & he probably didn't have anything to back up. Shruh
The streets will run red with the blood of the non believers... Also geese. There will be a fuckton of geese.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:28 am
by Epignosis
MacDougall is replacing Dom.

This is Scorpion's role:

Spoiler: show
Image

Scorpion
Spear: “Get over here!” Scorpion’s spear drags someone close. If Scorpion is targeted with anything, his target shares in that fate.
Immolation: Scorpion removes his mask and burns someone to death.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:19 am
by speedchuck
Mac is back. I am bracing myself.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:19 am
by Long Con
WAY better than my second ability. :pout: Actually, mine turned out very well. Welcome back, Mac! Shaaaame on you, Dom!

Mac, who should we vote for next?

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:20 am
by Long Con
lapluie wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:19 am Yeah I don't like how wilgy didn't have a say to votes directed at him, instead he just placed random votes without contributing anything & even defending himself ... he would have gotten lynched today & he probably didn't have anything to back up. Shruh
How likely are you to vote Wilgy tomorrow?

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:20 pm
by DrWilgy
Long Con wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:20 am
lapluie wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:19 am Yeah I don't like how wilgy didn't have a say to votes directed at him, instead he just placed random votes without contributing anything & even defending himself ... he would have gotten lynched today & he probably didn't have anything to back up. Shruh
How likely are you to vote Wilgy tomorrow?
42069%

Haha how funny am I?

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:48 pm
by dunya
Epignosis wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:28 am
MacDougall is replacing Dom.

This is Scorpion's role:

Spoiler: show
Image

Scorpion
Spear: “Get over here!” Scorpion’s spear drags someone close. If Scorpion is targeted with anything, his target shares in that fate.
Immolation: Scorpion removes his mask and burns someone to death.
so angry at u epig :pout: :pout: :pout: :pout: :pout: :pout:

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:25 pm
by lapluie
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:20 pm
Long Con wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:20 am
lapluie wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:19 am Yeah I don't like how wilgy didn't have a say to votes directed at him, instead he just placed random votes without contributing anything & even defending himself ... he would have gotten lynched today & he probably didn't have anything to back up. Shruh
How likely are you to vote Wilgy tomorrow?
42069%

Haha how funny am I?
???? you're not taking this game seriously....

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:25 pm
by DrWilgy
Nope!

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:28 pm
by lapluie
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:25 pmNope!
If you don't wanna play be replaced, it's ruining the game if you choose to participate carelessly & unfair for others. We don't wanna lynch a town civilian but when you choose to be this way it's hard not to

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:55 pm
by Long Con
Wilgy, are you Civ?

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:26 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
lapluie, meet DrWilgy. DrWilgy, meet lapluie. XD

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:31 pm
by MacDougall
Long Con wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:19 am WAY better than my second ability. :pout: Actually, mine turned out very well. Welcome back, Mac! Shaaaame on you, Dom!

Mac, who should we vote for next?
Speedchuck.

No but really I see JOH and Speedchuck are unanimous town reads so I would appreciate a cliffnotes as to why so I can get out of this tunnel.

Re: Mortal Kombat Mafia [Night 6]

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:32 pm
by speedchuck
There it is.

:ponder: I don't think I'm a unanimous townread. It's pretty much just Jack. But then again, Jack's the only person in this game giving readlists.