MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:15 pm
@falcon45ca penny for your (actual significant) thoughts?
I'm not sure my thoughts are significant. I guess I'm LHF town, cuz I've done nothing significant or noteworthy thus far, which seems to be enough to condemn me for some.
BUT! I'm not gonna fade away, no no! Not on Rex Manning day
I think doing three ISOs in ten minutes is a noteworthy thing.
The claim that you are just an easy chop for lazy folk is disingenuous.
1 of the ISO's has like 10 posts. You acting like the 3 of you had a lot of depth to your ISO's is disingenuous.
You're literally calling me scum for not spending enough time stroking your ego with your ISO. Sorry, I don't belief in participation ribbons. I gave your ISO as much time as I felt it needed.
I think you are worrying too much about my ego and not enough about the fact there is a testable hypothesis here. Anyone in the game is free to read my ISO and see if after five? six? minutes that are comfortable with "surface level, 60% scum." If a bunch of people devote six minutes and come back saying "yeah, sure, Falcon probably did that" then great...I move on, no harm no foul.
So encourage them.
Ngl I hardly ever spend more than five or ten minutes skimming an iso if I'm looking for holistic patterns. I think this line of questioning is unproductive. Falcon may be scum and sure it's possible he faked or exaggerated a quick conclusion but I don't think it's totally unreasonable a townie could do something similar.
I won't say that a townie can't or wouldn't, but the circumstances of "push me, give me three ISOs to read" followed by "here's three totally nondescript results and I probably didn't actually do it" is...annoying at least, if not wolfy.
This is ludicrous...I asked to be pushed to ISO so that I could get more engaged in the game, and behold! More engaged!
Jesus titty fuckin' Christ.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:38 pm
by Long Con
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:17 pm
man that 112 list was absolutely a soft
she has no reason to bother RNG.org the playerlist and submit it if she is going to post her reads right after that
like she can just copy paste the playerlist from the OP, randomizing the order is unnecessary
i probably shouldnt continually pressure this but i ... i believe that was some sort of bread crumb / soft claim tied to her role, and i think its most likely towny to leave hints like that so moving 112 to dark green town everyone pls unvote her
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:40 pm
Does anyone townread Nutella?
Is there any prerequisite here? Like do I have to have read any significant number of posts? Interacted with her at all? Or is just randomly pulling something out of my ass okay?
I giggled at this post.
On a tangential note, is Nutella still a yeet candidate for today?
Made wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:54 pm
Okay wait, so if 2 wolfie teams, then shouldn’t everyone be scummy???
Like sure they can baddie hunt or w/e but they should still look bad right?
I won last year’s GoC as scum because I was able to believably hunt the other team to extinction. Multiball helps wolves in the thread, hurts them out of it.
Hmm. Wym hurts them outside of it?
They don’t get to control the kill every night, and they are at risk of being killed themselves every other night.
Just for the record, Sloonei I absolutely hate this post and if I did not have a record for refusing to acknowledge TMI reads I would be all up on you right now.
I really wish you would've helped me push Sloonei earlier. D: Do you still hate that post though? How are you feeling about Sloonei now?
I actually voted Sloonei for a while, you'll get to that part if you keep going. I'm not really looking to tilt at that windmill right now, but I certainly wouldn't invite Sloonei over on the night of a full moon and just go to sleep either.
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:40 pm
Does anyone townread Nutella?
Is there any prerequisite here? Like do I have to have read any significant number of posts? Interacted with her at all? Or is just randomly pulling something out of my ass okay?
I giggled at this post.
On a tangential note, is Nutella still a yeet candidate for today?
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:13 pm
@MacDougall
Did you by chance note the post number where you explained why Nanook?
Dig through thread hard.
Dig through Mac ISO less hard, but still hard.
Try easier way first.
Forget that.
Forget about the Nanook vote, or forget about finding easy ways.
forget I scumread Nanook
Okay, cool...see, this is why I asked, now I don't have to dig it out at all. If you do make a case for why someone should be voted for, ping me please. Not promising to sheep it, but there's a good possibility.
I have a few real susses but I don't want to out them yet.
Okay, no rush.
Just out of curiosity am I one of them yet or do I have some time?
I feel like I've seen you post about commonly getting sussed D1 a couple times so far this game. o: I don't remember it happening TOO frequently in other games I've played with you!
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:42 pm
by Long Con
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:18 pm
I know y'all don't care but I just posted the most beautiful destruction of cat and made.
Very fine effort you put out there, Joseph. It sounded very convincing.
Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:42 pm
also, mac, what was the point of tagging Alison?
She's transcending this game
Shes a good player and if I ask her nicely to townside for a second and give me a fair unbiased analysis I believe she will.
I'm already handing out power roles like candy, I really don't need to give the mafia more reason to shoot me. Also consider that intentionally exerting as little influence over the thread as possible is a way of proving that I am in fact 3P and not mafia like some people are claiming.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:43 pm
by Hyena
10 minutes yet? I haven't even finished page 1 of Tim's ISO. o:
Forget about the Nanook vote, or forget about finding easy ways.
forget I scumread Nanook
Okay, cool...see, this is why I asked, now I don't have to dig it out at all. If you do make a case for why someone should be voted for, ping me please. Not promising to sheep it, but there's a good possibility.
I have a few real susses but I don't want to out them yet.
Okay, no rush.
Just out of curiosity am I one of them yet or do I have some time?
I feel like I've seen you post about commonly getting sussed D1 a couple times so far this game. o: I don't remember it happening TOO frequently in other games I've played with you!
Mac always susses me day one, and true to form he did vote me for a while.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:44 pm
by Timsup2nothin
Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:43 pm
10 minutes yet? I haven't even finished page 1 of Tim's ISO. o:
Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:42 pm
also, mac, what was the point of tagging Alison?
She's transcending this game
Shes a good player and if I ask her nicely to townside for a second and give me a fair unbiased analysis I believe she will.
I'm already handing out power roles like candy, I really don't need to give the mafia more reason to shoot me. Also consider that intentionally exerting as little influence over the thread as possible is a way of proving that I am in fact 3P and not mafia like some people are claiming.
alison wondering which power role to hand out first
Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:36 pm
I really wish you would've helped me push Sloonei earlier. D: Do you still hate that post though? How are you feeling about Sloonei now?
I actually voted Sloonei for a while, you'll get to that part if you keep going. I'm not really looking to tilt at that windmill right now, but I certainly wouldn't invite Sloonei over on the night of a full moon and just go to sleep either.
Yeah, I haven't gotten to that part yet, but okay! I don't plan on going after Sloonei right now anyway. I was just messing with him earlier.
Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:42 pm
I feel like I've seen you post about commonly getting sussed D1 a couple times so far this game. o: I don't remember it happening TOO frequently in other games I've played with you!
Mac always susses me day one, and true to form he did vote me for a while.
Oh, I didn't realize you were talking about Mac, specifically. Yeah, he does that to me, too, every game, lol.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:51 pm
by Alison
if you have any strong preferences for power roles I'm going to hand out, speak now, else I'll use my discretion
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:37 pm
@MacDougall
If Cat flips town do you think it would be okay if a vig just shoots you?
No that is a ridiculous thought
Just a check to see how certain you are since I'm probably going to just throw in with you here.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:52 pm
by Hyena
Wait, @Timsup2nothin, did Falcon call you scum or town from reading your ISO in ten minutes? Or was it an inconclusive read?
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:52 pm
by MacDougall
Yes, I sus people on day 1. I do it. It's a thing that I do. It means nothing. I sus everyone because everyone requires sussing.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:54 pm
by Hyena
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:52 pm
Yes, I sus people on day 1. I do it. It's a thing that I do. It means nothing. I sus everyone because everyone requires sussing.
I do it, too. o: It wasn't a complaint. If anything, it gives me a chance to banter with/troll you when you do it to me.
Cats, nature's greatest mistake. Yet humanity has revered and worshipped them for millennia.
Why? They are such obvious villains.
And the feline in our midst is no different.
The reason I suspected Cat initially was a post they made defending Made from a Mac prod. It immediately gave me the impression of a nervous protection of a teammate. It was not long after that that they dropped a scummy vote on Nutella. This morning I followed up on it. I went and checked their full progression on Made and became convinced Cat was mafia. I also found the interactions between the two of them teammate indicative, given their timing; with Made reacting to Cat with the old "oh hai have we met" stereotype and Cat sort of soft batting it, while they were otherwise at odds with one another (don't quote this wall and pick this point out to argue with because yes it's weak and maybe NAI).
At present, the main concern I have is their progression from RVS through to unvoting Made feeling too constructed. Lacking the random energy of town and being too mindful of not appearing "scummy". As you'll see I have picked that up with Cat with two separate pushes. This one, and also their rising anti-Nutella sentiment having the same over-constructed approach.
When you add their relatively low content volume, the relative incisiveness of their perspectives vs. their volume and the lack (until now) of any real push against them. I do believe you have a mafia.
Tbc.
I don't think cat and made are teammates tbh but otherwise ok
Have you read part 2?
yeah. I can see it.
when you first started pushing the cat wagon tho made interacted with you most about it and said he agreed on the iso being wolfy, how did that interaction make you feel?
also i have a dumb reservation about them being w/w which is incidentally the interaction you quoted where they act up not knowing each other. the truth is they played together in christmastime mafia and i guess didn't remember, and this might be dumb but i think if they were in a wolf chat they would have realized already so unless you think that interaction was faked to the extent that they fully pretended that, i think it does make it less likely.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:58 pm
by Timsup2nothin
Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:52 pm
Wait, @Timsup2nothin, did Falcon call you scum or town from reading your ISO in ten minutes? Or was it an inconclusive read?
The decisive "60% scum" with a side of "just shallow posting."
I'm satisfied he at best looked at how long it was and recognized it had a fair amount of fluff and opted to skip it. But, he wouldn't be the first to react to my ISO that way, so sure, maybe just town that bit off more than he really wanted to chew.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:52 pm
Yes, I sus people on day 1. I do it. It's a thing that I do. It means nothing. I sus everyone because everyone requires sussing.
I do it, too. o: It wasn't a complaint. If anything, it gives me a chance to banter with/troll you when you do it to me.
Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:52 pm
Wait, @Timsup2nothin, did Falcon call you scum or town from reading your ISO in ten minutes? Or was it an inconclusive read?
The decisive "60% scum" with a side of "just shallow posting."
I'm satisfied he at best looked at how long it was and recognized it had a fair amount of fluff and opted to skip it. But, he wouldn't be the first to react to my ISO that way, so sure, maybe just town that bit off more than he really wanted to chew.
Whatever.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. If he was scum, I think there was enough in your ISO to put together a case on you if he really wanted. Granted, not everyone can bullshit as great as I can, so maybe I'm wrong. Either way, I don't think he's really aiming to get you yeeted right now if he somehow IS scum.
Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:52 pm
Wait, @Timsup2nothin, did Falcon call you scum or town from reading your ISO in ten minutes? Or was it an inconclusive read?
The decisive "60% scum" with a side of "just shallow posting."
I'm satisfied he at best looked at how long it was and recognized it had a fair amount of fluff and opted to skip it. But, he wouldn't be the first to react to my ISO that way, so sure, maybe just town that bit off more than he really wanted to chew.
Whatever.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. If he was scum, I think there was enough in your ISO to put together a case on you if he really wanted. Granted, not everyone can bullshit as great as I can, so maybe I'm wrong. Either way, I don't think he's really aiming to get you yeeted right now if he somehow IS scum.
I never had him as trying to get me chopped...I had it down as the kind of 'busy work' that a pressed wolf does. The whole "give me three ISOs to read, you choose, look how solvey I wanna be" thing...but he says he just wanted to be pushed to get more into the game and now I have him out walking it off, probably steaming so hard that he is leaving a trail of melted snow...and I'm more tired of being the bad guy than I am of reading whole games. lol...so fine, I'll just sheep Mac and if Cat's a miss it's Mac's fault.
But don't shoot him for being wrong you vigs.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:07 pm
by Hyena
Actually, now that I think about it, Falcon doesn't seem to be trying to get anyone yeeted at the moment. o: Like, the way he keeps saying that his reads are bad, it feels like he wants to discredit himself so that he doesn't have to push anywhere. That might also be why he's voting Alison, a claimed 3P. o:
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:08 pm
by Timsup2nothin
[VOTE:
Cat] aubergine
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:08 pm
by Hyena
Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:07 pm
Actually, now that I think about it, Falcon doesn't seem to be trying to get anyone yeeted at the moment. o: Like, the way he keeps saying that his reads are bad, it feels like he wants to discredit himself so that he doesn't have to push anywhere. That might also be why he's voting Alison, a claimed 3P. o:
We DID vote together one time before we did Alison though. I might need to relook at that for a moment.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:11 pm
by Hyena
Okay, so here was the exchange we had (it was about 112):
No, I mean, how was he taking advantage of the state of the thread in that post?
It allows him to act as if there haven't been noteworthy discussions to comment on.
Like, instead of looking for things he could engage, he's looking for things he doesn't have to engage
He engaged in the animal/veggie talk last night, but okay. o:
You're right, that animal/veggie talk has game changing implications
It actually did. 112 didn't realize we were doing the animal/veggie talk and thought I was actually putting together a real towncore. I think she's mafia, by the way.
We won't know until we get her flip the exact ramifications of the animal/veggie talk.
Hey, wanna vote 112 with me?
She probably won't like it very much, but if she's Maf then no biggie.
Turns out he offered to vote 112 with me AFTER I made an accusation towards 112. He was kinda pushing on Radish though before that. Man, I dunno.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:12 pm
by Dyslexicon
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:52 pm
Yes, I sus people on day 1. I do it. It's a thing that I do. It means nothing. I sus everyone because everyone requires sussing.
I don't.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 0]
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:15 pm
by Timsup2nothin
Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:11 pm
Okay, so here was the exchange we had (it was about 112):
No, I mean, how was he taking advantage of the state of the thread in that post?
It allows him to act as if there haven't been noteworthy discussions to comment on.
Like, instead of looking for things he could engage, he's looking for things he doesn't have to engage
He engaged in the animal/veggie talk last night, but okay. o:
You're right, that animal/veggie talk has game changing implications
It actually did. 112 didn't realize we were doing the animal/veggie talk and thought I was actually putting together a real towncore. I think she's mafia, by the way.
We won't know until we get her flip the exact ramifications of the animal/veggie talk.
Hey, wanna vote 112 with me?
She probably won't like it very much, but if she's Maf then no biggie.
Turns out he offered to vote 112 with me AFTER I made an accusation towards 112. He was kinda pushing on Radish though before that. Man, I dunno.
fwiw the first strong stand I took in this game is that at least one wolf group actively wanted to kill 112 during that time
Cats, nature's greatest mistake. Yet humanity has revered and worshipped them for millennia.
Why? They are such obvious villains.
And the feline in our midst is no different.
The reason I suspected Cat initially was a post they made defending Made from a Mac prod. It immediately gave me the impression of a nervous protection of a teammate. It was not long after that that they dropped a scummy vote on Nutella. This morning I followed up on it. I went and checked their full progression on Made and became convinced Cat was mafia. I also found the interactions between the two of them teammate indicative, given their timing; with Made reacting to Cat with the old "oh hai have we met" stereotype and Cat sort of soft batting it, while they were otherwise at odds with one another (don't quote this wall and pick this point out to argue with because yes it's weak and maybe NAI).
At present, the main concern I have is their progression from RVS through to unvoting Made feeling too constructed. Lacking the random energy of town and being too mindful of not appearing "scummy". As you'll see I have picked that up with Cat with two separate pushes. This one, and also their rising anti-Nutella sentiment having the same over-constructed approach.
When you add their relatively low content volume, the relative incisiveness of their perspectives vs. their volume and the lack (until now) of any real push against them. I do believe you have a mafia.
Tbc.
I don't think cat and made are teammates tbh but otherwise ok
Have you read part 2?
yeah. I can see it.
when you first started pushing the cat wagon tho made interacted with you most about it and said he agreed on the iso being wolfy, how did that interaction make you feel?
also i have a dumb reservation about them being w/w which is incidentally the interaction you quoted where they act up not knowing each other. the truth is they played together in christmastime mafia and i guess didn't remember, and this might be dumb but i think if they were in a wolf chat they would have realized already so unless you think that interaction was faked to the extent that they fully pretended that, i think it does make it less likely.
I baited the entire thing out of Made tbh. His reaction to everything was exactly what I'd expect him to do as a mafia teammate. He just went straight to pocketing me and agreeing with my push. There was no willingness to object in the slightest. It made me far more convinced.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:21 pm
by MacDougall
If Made was town, he wouldn't just drank it all up like that. Made as town has reserved tinfoil of me no matter what. If anything he'd be more inclined to town read Cat to spite me.
Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:42 pm
also, mac, what was the point of tagging Alison?
She's transcending this game
Shes a good player and if I ask her nicely to townside for a second and give me a fair unbiased analysis I believe she will.
I'm already handing out power roles like candy, I really don't need to give the mafia more reason to shoot me. Also consider that intentionally exerting as little influence over the thread as possible is a way of proving that I am in fact 3P and not mafia like some people are claiming.
Let me track and I will be the greatest bloodhound.
Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:52 pm
Wait, @Timsup2nothin, did Falcon call you scum or town from reading your ISO in ten minutes? Or was it an inconclusive read?
The decisive "60% scum" with a side of "just shallow posting."
I'm satisfied he at best looked at how long it was and recognized it had a fair amount of fluff and opted to skip it. But, he wouldn't be the first to react to my ISO that way, so sure, maybe just town that bit off more than he really wanted to chew.
Whatever.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. If he was scum, I think there was enough in your ISO to put together a case on you if he really wanted. Granted, not everyone can bullshit as great as I can, so maybe I'm wrong. Either way, I don't think he's really aiming to get you yeeted right now if he somehow IS scum.
I never had him as trying to get me chopped...I had it down as the kind of 'busy work' that a pressed wolf does. The whole "give me three ISOs to read, you choose, look how solvey I wanna be" thing...but he says he just wanted to be pushed to get more into the game and now I have him out walking it off, probably steaming so hard that he is leaving a trail of melted snow...and I'm more tired of being the bad guy than I am of reading whole games. lol...so fine, I'll just sheep Mac and if Cat's a miss it's Mac's fault.
But don't shoot him for being wrong you vigs.
S'all good, you're not the bad guy. I'm alright, I'm a big boy and I own my shit. My gettin' steamed has more to do with me than it does with you or our interactions.
Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:52 pm
Wait, @Timsup2nothin, did Falcon call you scum or town from reading your ISO in ten minutes? Or was it an inconclusive read?
The decisive "60% scum" with a side of "just shallow posting."
I'm satisfied he at best looked at how long it was and recognized it had a fair amount of fluff and opted to skip it. But, he wouldn't be the first to react to my ISO that way, so sure, maybe just town that bit off more than he really wanted to chew.
Whatever.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. If he was scum, I think there was enough in your ISO to put together a case on you if he really wanted. Granted, not everyone can bullshit as great as I can, so maybe I'm wrong. Either way, I don't think he's really aiming to get you yeeted right now if he somehow IS scum.
I never had him as trying to get me chopped...I had it down as the kind of 'busy work' that a pressed wolf does. The whole "give me three ISOs to read, you choose, look how solvey I wanna be" thing...but he says he just wanted to be pushed to get more into the game and now I have him out walking it off, probably steaming so hard that he is leaving a trail of melted snow...and I'm more tired of being the bad guy than I am of reading whole games. lol...so fine, I'll just sheep Mac and if Cat's a miss it's Mac's fault.
But don't shoot him for being wrong you vigs.
S'all good, you're not the bad guy. I'm alright, I'm a big boy and I own my shit. My gettin' steamed has more to do with me than it does with you or our interactions.
Thanks. I am gonna pass for now though...your possibilities as a townie are valid.
Cats, nature's greatest mistake. Yet humanity has revered and worshipped them for millennia.
Why? They are such obvious villains.
And the feline in our midst is no different.
The reason I suspected Cat initially was a post they made defending Made from a Mac prod. It immediately gave me the impression of a nervous protection of a teammate. It was not long after that that they dropped a scummy vote on Nutella. This morning I followed up on it. I went and checked their full progression on Made and became convinced Cat was mafia. I also found the interactions between the two of them teammate indicative, given their timing; with Made reacting to Cat with the old "oh hai have we met" stereotype and Cat sort of soft batting it, while they were otherwise at odds with one another (don't quote this wall and pick this point out to argue with because yes it's weak and maybe NAI).
At present, the main concern I have is their progression from RVS through to unvoting Made feeling too constructed. Lacking the random energy of town and being too mindful of not appearing "scummy". As you'll see I have picked that up with Cat with two separate pushes. This one, and also their rising anti-Nutella sentiment having the same over-constructed approach.
When you add their relatively low content volume, the relative incisiveness of their perspectives vs. their volume and the lack (until now) of any real push against them. I do believe you have a mafia.
Tbc.
I don't think cat and made are teammates tbh but otherwise ok
Have you read part 2?
yeah. I can see it.
when you first started pushing the cat wagon tho made interacted with you most about it and said he agreed on the iso being wolfy, how did that interaction make you feel?
also i have a dumb reservation about them being w/w which is incidentally the interaction you quoted where they act up not knowing each other. the truth is they played together in christmastime mafia and i guess didn't remember, and this might be dumb but i think if they were in a wolf chat they would have realized already so unless you think that interaction was faked to the extent that they fully pretended that, i think it does make it less likely.
I baited the entire thing out of Made tbh. His reaction to everything was exactly what I'd expect him to do as a mafia teammate. He just went straight to pocketing me and agreeing with my push. There was no willingness to object in the slightest. It made me far more convinced.
Do you find Made scummy independently of Cat? I can see why they might be teammates if Cat is scum but I haven't found Made scummy individually (in part because I believe the "trying to increase his townrange thing).
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:35 pm
by Thunal33
Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:07 pm
Actually, now that I think about it, Falcon doesn't seem to be trying to get anyone yeeted at the moment. o: Like, the way he keeps saying that his reads are bad, it feels like he wants to discredit himself so that he doesn't have to push anywhere. That might also be why he's voting Alison, a claimed 3P. o:
I'm thinking that too and I feel like he would try a little harder to get someone yeeted as town.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:38 pm
by Thunal33
I also don't think people answered me on this: was Hyena's original role a scum role? Do people think Hyena's role means he shouldn't be a yeet target?
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:43 pm
by Long Con
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:38 pm
I also don't think people answered me on this: was Hyena's original role a scum role? Do people think Hyena's role means he shouldn't be a yeet target?
Roles can change alignment when ported from a regular game into a role homage in the Champs game. I think that's part of the fun, really, and I'd be disappointed if it didn't happen at all. That said, it's also great to honour the evil or heroism of a role by keeping it as-is in Champs.
I am not sure if the original role was indeed a scum role, or if that's just something someone made up, as folk do.
Cats, nature's greatest mistake. Yet humanity has revered and worshipped them for millennia.
Why? They are such obvious villains.
And the feline in our midst is no different.
The reason I suspected Cat initially was a post they made defending Made from a Mac prod. It immediately gave me the impression of a nervous protection of a teammate. It was not long after that that they dropped a scummy vote on Nutella. This morning I followed up on it. I went and checked their full progression on Made and became convinced Cat was mafia. I also found the interactions between the two of them teammate indicative, given their timing; with Made reacting to Cat with the old "oh hai have we met" stereotype and Cat sort of soft batting it, while they were otherwise at odds with one another (don't quote this wall and pick this point out to argue with because yes it's weak and maybe NAI).
At present, the main concern I have is their progression from RVS through to unvoting Made feeling too constructed. Lacking the random energy of town and being too mindful of not appearing "scummy". As you'll see I have picked that up with Cat with two separate pushes. This one, and also their rising anti-Nutella sentiment having the same over-constructed approach.
When you add their relatively low content volume, the relative incisiveness of their perspectives vs. their volume and the lack (until now) of any real push against them. I do believe you have a mafia.
Tbc.
I don't think cat and made are teammates tbh but otherwise ok
Have you read part 2?
yeah. I can see it.
when you first started pushing the cat wagon tho made interacted with you most about it and said he agreed on the iso being wolfy, how did that interaction make you feel?
also i have a dumb reservation about them being w/w which is incidentally the interaction you quoted where they act up not knowing each other. the truth is they played together in christmastime mafia and i guess didn't remember, and this might be dumb but i think if they were in a wolf chat they would have realized already so unless you think that interaction was faked to the extent that they fully pretended that, i think it does make it less likely.
I baited the entire thing out of Made tbh. His reaction to everything was exactly what I'd expect him to do as a mafia teammate. He just went straight to pocketing me and agreeing with my push. There was no willingness to object in the slightest. It made me far more convinced.
Do you find Made scummy independently of Cat? I can see why they might be teammates if Cat is scum but I haven't found Made scummy individually (in part because I believe the "trying to increase his townrange thing).
Yes I find him scummy.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:45 pm
by MacDougall
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:38 pm
I also don't think people answered me on this: was Hyena's original role a scum role? Do people think Hyena's role means he shouldn't be a yeet target?
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:06 am
Oh I just realised something. Y'all talking about Hyena's role like it was the Pirate role. It's just DDL's role from U-Pick. Which was a scum role. DDL early claimed it and used it to live the longest of all the mafia. The role was literally a scum role in U-Pick.
Why did nobody mention this? Did it have the same flavor in U-Pick?
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:38 pm
I also don't think people answered me on this: was Hyena's original role a scum role? Do people think Hyena's role means he shouldn't be a yeet target?
Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:38 pm
I also don't think people answered me on this: was Hyena's original role a scum role? Do people think Hyena's role means he shouldn't be a yeet target?
Holy shit you are caught mafia.
That's why you're the judge and I'm the law... talking... guy!
I think she's mafia, by the way.
