The Syndicate

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:50 pm

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:48 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:39 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:26 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:25 pm lucy is one I went through

Dyslexicon feels like another

Are you able to point to or just recall any particular posts that gave you that impression

The posts in the previous page

These?

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:31 pm only got 4h of sleep last night lol

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:32 pm interesting alison vote

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:32 pm @Alison yodelayheehoo

Yes, I went through these and asked myself why couldn't it be wolf happy with the current gamestate.

how do you see happiness from 3 posts

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:52 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:42 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:34 pm I’ve never seem Creature be this useless as town

Let's please not describe players in this way

It's within context of this game.

He's been lazily throwing my name around for a while with nothing to it.

I have asked him direct questions which he hasn't answered.

His whining is so over the top, I really hope it's fake.

Being critical of his play is fine, I just don't like seeing a person being described as useless.

But I do agree that I find it frustrating that Creature hasn't responded to a number of questions directed at him throughout this game

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:55 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:50 pm

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:48 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:39 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:26 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:25 pm lucy is one I went through

Dyslexicon feels like another

Are you able to point to or just recall any particular posts that gave you that impression

The posts in the previous page

These?

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:31 pm only got 4h of sleep last night lol

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:32 pm interesting alison vote

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:32 pm @Alison yodelayheehoo

Yes, I went through these and asked myself why couldn't it be wolf happy with the current gamestate.

how do you see happiness from 3 posts

"I'mma just lolpost because the wolfteam is fine"

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:57 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:52 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:42 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:34 pm I’ve never seem Creature be this useless as town

Let's please not describe players in this way

It's within context of this game.

He's been lazily throwing my name around for a while with nothing to it.

I have asked him direct questions which he hasn't answered.

His whining is so over the top, I really hope it's fake.

Being critical of his play is fine, I just don't like seeing a person being described as useless.

But I do agree that I find it frustrating that Creature hasn't responded to a number of questions directed at him throughout this game

You all ask many questions and I can't keep them all

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:52 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:42 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:34 pm I’ve never seem Creature be this useless as town

Let's please not describe players in this way

It's within context of this game.

He's been lazily throwing my name around for a while with nothing to it.

I have asked him direct questions which he hasn't answered.

His whining is so over the top, I really hope it's fake.

It feels like you and Ender are voting together on everything and the two most notable votes you both did were on DrWilgy (flipped town) and me. Therefore I'm really suspicious you both are openwolfing.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:04 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:01 pm Ok, so Boq is probably town.

I have decided this is the case btw

When catching up for real, I'm not sure on this anymore.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:57 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:55 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:50 pm

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:48 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:39 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:26 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:25 pm lucy is one I went through

Dyslexicon feels like another

Are you able to point to or just recall any particular posts that gave you that impression

The posts in the previous page

These?

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:31 pm only got 4h of sleep last night lol

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:32 pm interesting alison vote

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:32 pm @Alison yodelayheehoo

Yes, I went through these and asked myself why couldn't it be wolf happy with the current gamestate.

how do you see happiness from 3 posts

"I'mma just lolpost because the wolfteam is fine"

any response to this would implicitly or explicitly toxic by me so i will refrain from saying anything besides this

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:00 pmIt feels like you and Ender are voting together on everything and the two most notable votes you both did were on DrWilgy (flipped town) and me. Therefore I'm really suspicious you both are openwolfing.

That's nice.
I followed Sean on Wilgy.
I'm was voting Jimmay with Ender now, before you popped in.

So I am wolf for voting town. Got it.

What if I'm town voting town? Can you describe who I should be voting instead and why?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:37 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 1:47 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:32 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:23 pm We've been following Mac's legacy list so far though

What was this thought about by the by?

@Creature

@Creature You never answered this. And where the fuck are you?

Creature, please answer

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:58 pmYou all ask many questions and I can't keep them all

I asked you one question and I pinged you twice.

Do not complain and whine about my play if you're not even willing to pretend to work with us.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:57 pmBeing critical of his play is fine, I just don't like seeing a person being described as useless.

I didn't do that. It's not him as a person.

@Creature You said earlier yourself that you were suspicious of Jay. Why do you now have a problem with me and Ender voting there?

Creature is winning my sympathy vote

@JaggedJimmyJay I don't take much issue with Boq's Wilgy vote by the way. I also voted Wilgy for nebulous not so good reasons.

I also cannot keep up with the questions, and I also have been made to feel “useless” for my posting.

They might still receive my actual vote as well as the sympathy, but it’s giving me pause because I feel your struggle Creature.

Actually yea gonna vote now. Already 10 and I might fall asleep lol

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:11 pm I also cannot keep up with the questions, and I also have been made to feel “useless” for my posting.

They might still receive my actual vote as well as the sympathy, but it’s giving me pause because I feel your struggle Creature.

I've had no issue with you being behind or not having time enough to keep up, and have tried reading you regardless.

sleep well @fingersplints

Who will be able to be here at EoD?

If there's any town left in this game, we need to consolidate votes at a point. I'll be around.

@Marmot Actually, what are your recent town and scum games?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:14 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:11 pm I also cannot keep up with the questions, and I also have been made to feel “useless” for my posting.

They might still receive my actual vote as well as the sympathy, but it’s giving me pause because I feel your struggle Creature.

I've had no issue with you being behind or not having time enough to keep up, and have tried reading you regardless.

I’m general I feel those things

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:16 pm Who will be able to be here at EoD?

If there's any town left in this game, we need to consolidate votes at a point. I'll be around.

you can count on me commander

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:24 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:16 pm Who will be able to be here at EoD?

If there's any town left in this game, we need to consolidate votes at a point. I'll be around.

you can count on me commander

Let's openwolf together tbh

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:15 pm sleep well @fingersplints

Thanks. I’m actually going to try to stay around for as long as possible. But I’m also going into a tired relax mode, so I know

falcon45ca, DrWilgy, me

Are you all seeing a pattern here?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:04 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:37 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 1:47 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:32 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:23 pm We've been following Mac's legacy list so far though

What was this thought about by the by?

@Creature

@Creature You never answered this. And where the fuck are you?

Creature, please answer

Mac had falcon45ca and DrWilgy in his list

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:31 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:25 pm lots of naked votes on Alison huh tbh

How many?

three tbh, mine, yours, dizzy

InTeReStInG

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:33 pmMac had falcon45ca and DrWilgy in his list

The moment has passed, but I was wondering why that was on your mind right before EoD.

It "pinged" me a bit, as one says. But thinking about it, I'm probably over it.

What do you think of Jay, Alison and Boq?

Do you get anything out of the NK?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:16 pm Who will be able to be here at EoD?

If there's any town left in this game, we need to consolidate votes at a point. I'll be around.

I'm done with work in a couple hours, after that I'll be around for the remainder.

@Creature If you think the wolves are so comfortable, why would it be scummy to have WIM or post more? Would it not be more scummy to do exactly what you're doing, which today has been not much at all? That's what I don't get.

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:59 pm @Boquise, where are you at on Fingersplints?

I think by thread state and profiling, she is town. But I am not sure because this is a slot that is hard to read.

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:00 pm And what makes you think she's being grouped together with you?

Because Dizzy and JJJ have grouped her together with me tbh

What is your take on Fingers?

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:49 pm It seems wolves know if they whine enough they can save themselves from being lynched

You also never answered who this was about? Who was whining as you saw it?

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:38 pmBecause Dizzy and JJJ have grouped her together with me tbh

What is your take on Fingers?

I think it's mostly me. But I'm mostly over it, because Fingers seems more town to me now. The AtE got me tbh

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:24 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:21 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:20 pm This thread feels like wolves' party

what does that mean

idk

I'm looking at a lot of posts and keep thinking "this could be a wolf with high WIM" especially after we already mislynched twice.

who of the players are you referring to?
What posts exactly?

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:41 pmwho of the players are you referring to?
What posts exactly?

It's me. I'm openwolfing.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:01 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:04 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:01 pm Ok, so Boq is probably town.

I have decided this is the case btw

When catching up for real, I'm not sure on this anymore.

help me help you tbh

trying to figure out Dizzy's wolf agenda in being so openly flip-flopping with me

maybe it is a hope that if dizzy flips before me i would look bad?
But my impression of Dizzy is that Dizzy does not play wolf to get yeeted.

so like this is also not helping their case in pocketing me.
Therefore the need is to uh look like they are fake concerned about me? I guess?

Or they really are paranoid about me
Is hard when I dont have much to work with there :wowee:

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:40 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:38 pmBecause Dizzy and JJJ have grouped her together with me tbh

What is your take on Fingers?

I think it's mostly me. But I'm mostly over it, because Fingers seems more town to me now. The AtE got me tbh

JJJ looked pretty convinced tbh

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:43 pmhelp me help you tbh

Well, I was just going to go hard on the ego tell tbh. "I'd never lose at wolf here" etc. Hardly ever see wolves say that when there's stakes. It's boasting and a lot to lose. But then you said specifically that you'd do it as either alignment. So unsuuuure.

You have some weak reasonings regarding
- Why me and Marmot are not teamed
- Why Ender is town (being stubborn)
- Why Fingers is town.

Which is fine. I probably have tons of weak reasoning too.
What would potential teams look like for you? Is it possible for you to state a PoE right now?

I should be around toward the end of day, but I do have a lot of things pulling at my attention and it's possible I end up in a work call.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:46 pm I should be around toward the end of day, but I do have a lot of things pulling at my attention and it's possible I end up in a work call.

Please join me and Lucy for some openwolfing.

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:45 pm trying to figure out Dizzy's wolf agenda in being so openly flip-flopping with me

maybe it is a hope that if dizzy flips before me i would look bad?
But my impression of Dizzy is that Dizzy does not play wolf to get yeeted.

so like this is also not helping their case in pocketing me.
Therefore the need is to uh look like they are fake concerned about me? I guess?

Or they really are paranoid about me
Is hard when I dont have much to work with there :wowee:

I'm very flip-floppy as town, if that helps.

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:45 pm JJJ looked pretty convinced tbh

I'm not sure what you're referring to. I can't think of a reason off-hand to separate you from fingersplints, but it's not an interaction that I think is specifically problematic.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:47 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:46 pm I should be around toward the end of day, but I do have a lot of things pulling at my attention and it's possible I end up in a work call.

Please join me and Lucy for some openwolfing.

k

I have given it some thought, and I believe it's most likely that Dizzy is town. I don't recall seeing him go into this kind of tunnel mode as mafia (indeed, my memory of his mafia games is that he's more agreeable and more turbulent). Regardless, if I do go over today -- he needs to be held accountable and answer to every shred of dialogue that he has discarded from me today. Likewise, in a world where Ender is mafia, Dizzy's equity skyrockets. We're too far along for vibe reads, so make sure you take on the task appropriately, town.

anyway lets play with some of the standard probabilities and world buildings tbh

There is a me/Alison/JJJ group
There is a Dizzy/Marmot/Ender/Nate group
There is a Lucy/Fingers/Rondo/Creature group

Regarding where wolves prefer to be, it is in the middle.
There should at least be a wolf inside Dizzy/Marmot/Ender/Nate. I do not think that no wolf has preferred to be inside the middle runners.
There could be 1 power wolf inside JJJ/Alison.

There could also be a wolf in the LHF (why, most of these qualis at MU had a lhf wolf, or low-posting wolf - and before you complain about this Rondo, this game was advertised as "lets see how we fare versus the quali towns).

This is based on world buildings and no reads.
I am currently town reading JJJ. So the power wolf is Alison. But would power wolf Alison willingly lose her grip of the game like this with no resistance? I press X for doubt.
I am also currently town reading Rondo, and Nate too but I think he is being a bit too floaty. I know how you can get traumatised by champ games but like the original drive should always be there. I think Fingers is town too?

Let's pretend I also town read Dizzy for their handling of me.

Anywho, I am left with:
Marmot/Ender
Lucy/Creature.

I should ISO here.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:51 pm I have given it some thought, and I believe it's most likely that Dizzy is town. I don't recall seeing him go into this kind of tunnel mode as mafia (indeed, my memory of his mafia games is that he's more agreeable and more turbulent). Regardless, if I do go over today -- he needs to be held accountable and answer to every shred of dialogue that he has discarded from me today. Likewise, in a world where Ender is mafia, Dizzy's equity skyrockets. We're too far along for vibe reads, so make sure you take on the task appropriately, town.

:cri

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:46 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:43 pmhelp me help you tbh

Well, I was just going to go hard on the ego tell tbh. "I'd never lose at wolf here" etc. Hardly ever see wolves say that when there's stakes. It's boasting and a lot to lose. But then you said specifically that you'd do it as either alignment. So unsuuuure.

You have some weak reasonings regarding
- Why me and Marmot are not teamed
- Why Ender is town (being stubborn)
- Why Fingers is town.

Which is fine. I probably have tons of weak reasoning too.
What would potential teams look like for you? Is it possible for you to state a PoE right now?

ah yes, I am aware of that tell tbh
fwiw i am way more open with it as town :wowee:

I just did a poe! Oh no I forgot to add Ender in it. Yikes.