Ted Lasso Mafia - game over!

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

occam's razor

town
scotty
bereft
thunal
robyn

scum
lorab
abbie
wigly

and we have 3 chops

I'd put LoRab at the bottom and Abi at the top.

yeah poe was unordered

Abi shouldn't be in the PoE.

Yes you are correct

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

And it's still Scotty Wilgy mhmmhm

[Scotty]

hi folks
I’m here, but having a hell of a time irl and won’t be able to really participate in discussion until probably Friday

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Thread dead

[Bartley]

EEeeeeek!!!!! Sorry, y’all. things got super busy at work and in life. I’m back.

Someone want to summarize what’s going on?

[LoRab]

Damn leftover account that auto logged me in. It’s me. Hi. I’m back.

[LoRab]

I’ll start by saying, again, I’m so sorry I was absent. Life and work both kind of exploded (not literally, lol).

I see I have votes. I’ll say in brief, I’m not bad. I’m definitely civ.

For one thing, I love being bad, and would be way less likely to disappear. And, especially, with BTSC, I’d remember the game and have tips of what to say here. And, this isn’t my baddie game (not that there are that many people left who know my meta.

I’ll read up to see why people suspect me. And make an actual defense. Sounds like a fun evening, lol. I’ll also share my own insights.

[VOTE: vote Wilgy] aubergine for the moment to self save. Plenty of time to EOD to change my mind.

[LoRab]

Reading through various posts. And, just want to thank @SVS for the nice things she said—even though she is evil. We truly have been playing together for a long while. And I appreciate the understanding about my job and schedule.

That said, I would have found SVS totally and completely suspish for all that, had I been around. She would definitely defend a teammate like that. And, I think she was sucking up to me a bit (from the start) so I wouldn’t suspect her. She is way better and reading me than I am at reading her.

Now to continue to figure out why people suspect me.

[Bereft]

Putting this one down in the "shocking re-entrances of all time" category.

[LoRab]

Putting this one down in the "shocking re-entrances of all time" category.

I am fortunate and appreciative that the wonderful host poked me to come back.

[robyn]

hello rabbi, welcome back

[LoRab]

hello rabbi, welcome back

Thanks so much. Glad to be here.

And why do you suspect me?

[robyn]

hello rabbi, welcome back

Thanks so much. Glad to be here.

And why do you suspect me?

i flipped a coin 3 years ago and it landed on heads

[LoRab]

hello rabbi, welcome back

Thanks so much. Glad to be here.

And why do you suspect me?

i flipped a coin 3 years ago and it landed on heads

Before you knew me? Impressive.

I find myself believing you are civ. I am, too. And I really want us to win. Assume, for a moment, I am civ—who would you vote for?

[robyn]

hello rabbi, welcome back

Thanks so much. Glad to be here.

And why do you suspect me?

i flipped a coin 3 years ago and it landed on heads

Before you knew me? Impressive.

I find myself believing you are civ. I am, too. And I really want us to win. Assume, for a moment, I am civ—who would you vote for?

wigly

[robyn]

rabbi u gotta give me your discord for post game, god is absolutely someone to fear

also did u shave ur hair

[LoRab]

I’m like never on discord, but will look up my name on there, lol.

And yes, I did!!!

I need to remember how to share pictures, lol.

[LoRab]

hello rabbi, welcome back

Thanks so much. Glad to be here.

And why do you suspect me?

i flipped a coin 3 years ago and it landed on heads

Before you knew me? Impressive.

I find myself believing you are civ. I am, too. And I really want us to win. Assume, for a moment, I am civ—who would you vote for?

wigly

What are your thoughts on Princess Abigail?

[LoRab]

It doesn't even matter who we kill today as long as it's in LoRab/Wilgy/Scotty.

Can you say why you suspect me? Or the other 2 for that matter.

[LoRab]

It doesn't even matter who we kill today as long as it's in LoRab/Wilgy/Scotty.

Except that I’m civ. So, maybe the other 2, but convince me.

[LoRab]

I just realized if we take Abi, robyn, Bereft, and myself as town and LoRab as mafia the game is an auto win.

I’m not. What is your second choice? And why should I trust you?

[DrWilgy]

I keep typing shit, but I don't think there's anything I could say in this gamestate that would advance the game without breaking the rules or pushing others to do so.

It feels silly that we are here.

If we are really at a lock state, as silly as that would be in a game like this, might as well advise the game will be over faster if I'm not tossed over as I'm town. Suppose it doesn't matter though.

[DrWilgy]

[VOTE: LoRab] aubergine

[LoRab]

[VOTE: LoRab] aubergine

Why me? I’m civ. If you are, too, then we should be able to figure out an actual baddie.

[DrWilgy]

[VOTE: LoRab] aubergine

Why me? I’m civ. If you are, too, then we should be able to figure out an actual baddie.

Because of it's not you/Scotty then one of the pairings of Abigail/Thunal or Robyn/Bereft is likely true. However these two pairs of players have deduced that is not the case within themselves.

[DrWilgy]

All things considered, it's w/e.

Regardless of what happens, me, Scotty or you, town or wolf flip, f5 or f3 should have enough game clarity for town who remain.

[LoRab]

All things considered, it's w/e.

Regardless of what happens, me, Scotty or you, town or wolf flip, f5 or f3 should have enough game clarity for town who remain.

You’re pretty nonchalant about losing another civ at this point—and that there will be enough civs to last into the next day. I’m not so confident.

And not so convince by your reasoning, which is totally random, that you’re actually civ.

[LoRab]

And, I very much think Abigail is bad. Are you willing to both move our votes there as a sign of good faith? You’ve voiced suspicion. I also have suspicion (will write more tomorrow—I’m literally falling asleep at the moment). If we are both civ. And both suspect her. Why not both vote there?

[Thunal33]

I’ll start by saying, again, I’m so sorry I was absent. Life and work both kind of exploded (not literally, lol).

I see I have votes. I’ll say in brief, I’m not bad. I’m definitely civ.

For one thing, I love being bad, and would be way less likely to disappear. And, especially, with BTSC, I’d remember the game and have tips of what to say here. And, this isn’t my baddie game (not that there are that many people left who know my meta.

I’ll read up to see why people suspect me. And make an actual defense. Sounds like a fun evening, lol. I’ll also share my own insights.

[VOTE: vote Wilgy] aubergine for the moment to self save. Plenty of time to EOD to change my mind.

Hi LoRab! I hope your real life is going okay.

[Thunal33]

It doesn't even matter who we kill today as long as it's in LoRab/Wilgy/Scotty.

Can you say why you suspect me? Or the other 2 for that matter.

I tinfoiled you after Michelle flipped and gave a weak push against you, and I started suspecting you more last phase because SVS had teamed interactions with you. You can find the SVS spew wall in my ISO.

The other 2 is a PoE I got by having good reasons to find everyone else town.

I am going to keep my vote on you and I do feel good about you being mafia but I think it can only be good for town if I talk to you anyway.

[LoRab]

Happy to talk. And try to convince you that I am truly town. And, I believe you are, as well. Not certain, but sure enough.

Here are my thoughts on Abigail, because I’m increasingly suspish: (quotes in no particular order—I was reading back and forth and just picked quotes as I went along)

Changing my vote to her right now. Because I really think she is bad.

Vote [VOTE: ☆Princess Abigail☆] aubergine

You know what fuck it

This isn't a role claim it's not info dumping I don't think it violates the rules of I get modkilled oh well

I didn't get a clarifying question about my role answered until EoD when I called Michelle scum

If you actually had information, I don’t see how this seeming role claim/info dump would be allowed. So…

If anyone can realistically explain why I don't go into d3 with (for this I'm assuming lorab town)

Another dead town and all my scum buds alive

I will self vote right now

That would be a shit play as wolf and I'm not a shit wolf

This is such a “oh, no, not me” kind of post. “All my scum buds” “that would be a shit play”

Not buying it.

I might legit self vote if it saves Wilgy at EoD

[/spoiler]
For context, the first two posts were when I was the only one strongly sussing Wilgy.

Compare that with how she treated SVS this game. Abi townread SVS but it felt limp and she didn't do anything to justify that except one post calling Scotty/SVS t/t. SVS caught a lot of heat but she didn't jump to her defense or show she actually cared about that read.
[/quote]

The thing you fail to mention is...I did hard defend SVS and I didn't have a strong stance on either eod wagon so why would I take a hard stance?
[/quote]

Because we will later learn that you are teammates.

If I was: Who I targeted Last night:
Ted Lasso - Protector ☆Princess Abigail☆‬

Coach Beard - Check Alignment ‪JaggedJimmyJay‬

Rebecca Walton - Money Siphon ‪Cape90‬

Roy Kent - BTS Mason ‪Bereft‬

Keeley Jones - BTS Mason ‪S~V~S‬

Jamie Tartt - Body Guard ‪DrWilgy‬

Leslie Higgins - Whisperer ‪DarlingMonroe‬

Trent Crimm - Host Post Dont kill Rondo

Sam Obisanya - Blocker ‪ Thunal33‬

Isaac Macadoo - Forced Sherrif ‪Scotty‬

Colin Hughes - Hidden IC ‪ts account‬

Dani Rojas - Town Kill
-----------------------------------
Rupert Mannion - Money Bags ‪Long Con‬ Kill + Investigate

Nathan Shelley - Fake Green

Trio of fans - Tripplet ‪Michelle‬ Curse

Edwin Akufo - Sam Bully ‪ robyn‬

Are you pocketing me?


Cause it's working!!

I also love how no other town has picked it up and run with it. Especially JJJ. I think its +EV for town to share this information no?

Sure fuck it I'll do it

If I was: Who I targeted Last night:
Ted Lasso - Protector: Robyn

Coach Beard - Check Alignment: Michelle

Rebecca Walton - Money Siphon: J3

Roy Kent - BTS Mason : Bereft

Keeley Jones - BTS Mason ‪: Wilgy

Jamie Tartt - Body Guard: Robyn

Leslie Higgins - Whisperer: Rondo

Trent Crimm - Host Post: Skill Issue

Sam Obisanya - Blocker: J3

Isaac Macadoo - Forced Sherrif: Cape

Colin Hughes - Hidden IC ‪ts account

Dani Rojas - Town Kill: Michelle
-----------------------------------


Not gonna WIFOM mafia rules

Here, you town read both Michelle and SVS.

The lack of NK is concerning ....

Like its technically possible that the shot went off and went nowhere but I have reasons to doubt this.

8-3

if I take robyn/you/rondo as town'

I am left looking at

4 town and 3 mafia

i kind of think DrWilgy and SVS are town

2 town 3 mafia

I have a feeling that is contained within the following names

Princess Abigail
DarlingMonroe
LoRab
Scotty
Thunal

Given the SVS voters I feel kind of okay with this

How the fuck... is this worldview real...

If SVS is town how the FUCK am i a wolf

She’s not. And neither are you.

See my flip

OK…this sounds like a baddie trying to say “oh, don’t kill me, I’m an imporant civ.” And I don’t believe you,

Can someone explain the Michelle case to me? Imma read her ISO, I recall she had votes Day 1, but I never caught up to why.

She's town

Right, so she’s totally civ. Until later in the day when you get clarification from host, she’s totally bad? This makes absolutely no sense.

[Thunal33]

Spoiler: show

If you actually had information, I don’t see how this seeming role claim/info dump would be allowed. So…

If anyone can realistically explain why I don't go into d3 with (for this I'm assuming lorab town)

Another dead town and all my scum buds alive

I will self vote right now

That would be a shit play as wolf and I'm not a shit wolf

This is such a “oh, no, not me” kind of post. “All my scum buds” “that would be a shit play”

Not buying it.

I might legit self vote if it saves Wilgy at EoD

For context, the first two posts were when I was the only one strongly sussing Wilgy.

Compare that with how she treated SVS this game. Abi townread SVS but it felt limp and she didn't do anything to justify that except one post calling Scotty/SVS t/t. SVS caught a lot of heat but she didn't jump to her defense or show she actually cared about that read.
[/quote]

The thing you fail to mention is...I did hard defend SVS and I didn't have a strong stance on either eod wagon so why would I take a hard stance?
[/quote]

Because we will later learn that you are teammates.

If I was: Who I targeted Last night:
Ted Lasso - Protector ☆Princess Abigail☆‬

Coach Beard - Check Alignment ‪JaggedJimmyJay‬

Rebecca Walton - Money Siphon ‪Cape90‬

Roy Kent - BTS Mason ‪Bereft‬

Keeley Jones - BTS Mason ‪S~V~S‬

Jamie Tartt - Body Guard ‪DrWilgy‬

Leslie Higgins - Whisperer ‪DarlingMonroe‬

Trent Crimm - Host Post Dont kill Rondo

Sam Obisanya - Blocker ‪ Thunal33‬

Isaac Macadoo - Forced Sherrif ‪Scotty‬

Colin Hughes - Hidden IC ‪ts account‬

Dani Rojas - Town Kill
-----------------------------------
Rupert Mannion - Money Bags ‪Long Con‬ Kill + Investigate

Nathan Shelley - Fake Green

Trio of fans - Tripplet ‪Michelle‬ Curse

Edwin Akufo - Sam Bully ‪ robyn‬

Are you pocketing me?


Cause it's working!!

I also love how no other town has picked it up and run with it. Especially JJJ. I think its +EV for town to share this information no?

Sure fuck it I'll do it

If I was: Who I targeted Last night:
Ted Lasso - Protector: Robyn

Coach Beard - Check Alignment: Michelle

Rebecca Walton - Money Siphon: J3

Roy Kent - BTS Mason : Bereft

Keeley Jones - BTS Mason ‪: Wilgy

Jamie Tartt - Body Guard: Robyn

Leslie Higgins - Whisperer: Rondo

Trent Crimm - Host Post: Skill Issue

Sam Obisanya - Blocker: J3

Isaac Macadoo - Forced Sherrif: Cape

Colin Hughes - Hidden IC ‪ts account

Dani Rojas - Town Kill: Michelle
-----------------------------------


Not gonna WIFOM mafia rules

Here, you town read both Michelle and SVS.

The lack of NK is concerning ....

Like its technically possible that the shot went off and went nowhere but I have reasons to doubt this.

8-3

if I take robyn/you/rondo as town'

I am left looking at

4 town and 3 mafia

i kind of think DrWilgy and SVS are town

2 town 3 mafia

I have a feeling that is contained within the following names

Princess Abigail
DarlingMonroe
LoRab
Scotty
Thunal

Given the SVS voters I feel kind of okay with this

How the fuck... is this worldview real...

If SVS is town how the FUCK am i a wolf

She’s not. And neither are you.

See my flip

OK…this sounds like a baddie trying to say “oh, don’t kill me, I’m an imporant civ.” And I don’t believe you,

Can someone explain the Michelle case to me? Imma read her ISO, I recall she had votes Day 1, but I never caught up to why.

She's town

Right, so she’s totally civ. Until later in the day when you get clarification from host, she’s totally bad? This makes absolutely no sense.
[/quote]
[/spoiler]

Fake info should be treated the same way as real info for the rules. False claiming isn't allowed and I'm pretty sure false infodumping would be like real infodumping.

Abi is town. She is literally the reason Michelle died and mafia would want you dead over Michelle.

What are your quick impressions of Wilgy, Scotty, and Bereft?

[Thunal33]

Well, that quote was a mess.

[LoRab]

Well, that quote was a mess.

Indeed. I’m definitely out of practice on quote posting. But I think you can get the gist.

[Thunal33]

I meant my response that tried to take up less space, not the original post.

[Thunal33]

I still have tinfoil that Bereft could be the last mafia after LoRab and I've felt uneasy assuming the game is locked. But it probably is and I probably should just get to bed. Paranoia is fun.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

And, I very much think Abigail is bad. Are you willing to both move our votes there as a sign of good faith? You’ve voiced suspicion. I also have suspicion (will write more tomorrow—I’m literally falling asleep at the moment). If we are both civ. And both suspect her. Why not both vote there?

Okay why?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

If you actually had information, I don’t see how this seeming role claim/info dump would be allowed. So…

Well because... it's not an info dump it's a factual post about mod availability

It could mean anything conceivably

But even if you feel like angle shooting this let's do that

Fake claiming is ALSO against the rules so if i'm faking here its a violation in the same manner

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

This is such a “oh, no, not me” kind of post. “All my scum buds” “that would be a shit play”

Not buying it.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

The worst logic in the game is

You called these people town and were wrong so you are a wolf

To notorious hellbusser and distancer Abigail Von Cutiepie the 3rd

[LoRab]

Fake info should be treated the same way as real info for the rules. False claiming isn't allowed and I'm pretty sure false infodumping would be like real infodumping.

Abi is town. She is literally the reason Michelle died and mafia would want you dead over Michelle.

What are your quick impressions of Wilgy, Scotty, and Bereft?

I guess I’m uneasy about the fact that I can’t see a role clarification that would have her change her mind like that on Michelle mid day. Especially as I know how baddie SVS can strategize and manipulate, and I think I’m seeing her influence here. SVS already did a fantastic job on making me seem bad by defending me, knowing I wasn’t around to notice.

Bereft: vague town read
Wilgy and Scotty are my next read throughs.

[Bereft]

I will be unavailable in like 1-2 hours, so meh.

Head empty.

[LoRab]

[VOTE: LoRab] aubergine

Why me? I’m civ. If you are, too, then we should be able to figure out an actual baddie.

Because of it's not you/Scotty then one of the pairings of Abigail/Thunal or Robyn/Bereft is likely true. However these two pairs of players have deduced that is not the case within themselves.

Abigail, I really believe is bad. I'm not sure about Scotty. I think you are civ...probably.

I also think one of the 3 votes against me was likely a forced vote. And that the baddies must really want me out, as they've been pushing for me to look bad since the start of the game.

I implore you to move your vote to Abigail if you actually want to Lynch a baddie.

[LoRab]

hello rabbi, welcome back

Thanks so much. Glad to be here.

And why do you suspect me?

i flipped a coin 3 years ago and it landed on heads

Before you knew me? Impressive.

I find myself believing you are civ. I am, too. And I really want us to win. Assume, for a moment, I am civ—who would you vote for?

wigly

Huh. this almost makes me want to doubt myself on Wilgy.

[robyn]

hello rabbi, welcome back

Thanks so much. Glad to be here.

And why do you suspect me?

i flipped a coin 3 years ago and it landed on heads

Before you knew me? Impressive.

I find myself believing you are civ. I am, too. And I really want us to win. Assume, for a moment, I am civ—who would you vote for?

wigly

Huh. this almost makes me want to doubt myself on Wilgy.

doubt yourself how?

[LoRab]

In that I was leaning towards his being civ, but then you were suspecting him, and other than the fact that you're wrong about me being bad, I believe you are civ. And, you seem to have good sense in general.

What do you think about Abigail?

[LoRab]

I don't have to work tonight. I've ordered Indian food. I'm watching Fraggle Rock. I'm ready for some mafia-ing. Alas, it is lonely in here.

Also, I'm civ.

[LoRab]

Ga--moving my vote back to Wilgy--not because I really suspect him, but it makes saving myself just a bit more possible. And, I know I'm civ--I don't know that about Wilgy.

I also don't like his attitude of it's ok to kill a civ, because we'll learn more. At this point in the game, that's a dangerous strategy for civs. Even if he's civ, I'd rather have me in the game.

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Sticking around, so I may change again.

[robyn]

In that I was leaning towards his being civ, but then you were suspecting him, and other than the fact that you're wrong about me being bad, I believe you are civ. And, you seem to have good sense in general.

What do you think about Abigail?

abbie is green

[robyn]

I don't have to work tonight. I've ordered Indian food. I'm watching Fraggle Rock. I'm ready for some mafia-ing. Alas, it is lonely in here.

Also, I'm civ.

i'll join ya

how much of this game have you read & why do you think i have good senses if i'm wrong on you?