The Syndicate

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:12 am**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:18 am I have set my vote on @novaselinenever

A waste of a vote.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:49 am**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:19 am
lapluie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:14 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:51 pm FIRST BLOOD MOTHA FUUUUCKAAAAA
whyd you kill jack huh?
Trust me. I would've killed Jack long ago. I even tried to lynch him for 3? Phases?

HmMmmMmMmm

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:50 am**

[mention]DrWilgy[/mention] why mac LOL.
.seriously

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:51 am**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:12 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:18 am I have set my vote on @novaselinenever
A waste of a vote.

why do you think he voted for you? & how can you change that?

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:58 am**

I think I'll start the day with a Made vote.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:59 am**

[mention]Epignosis[/mention], votes don't appear to be changeable in the poll.

I hope that's not intentional.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:00 am**

lapluie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:51 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:12 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:18 am I have set my vote on @novaselinenever
A waste of a vote.
why do you think he voted for you? & how can you change that?

He probably voted for my inactivity. Because I can't recall having posted anything for him to be suspicious about. It's weird he isn't doing the same thing with Dave or Dom (before being replaced). I can't really answer the second part of the answer, I have no idea.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:14 am**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:31 pm

The Journey is Complete.

Outworld is attacking Earthrealm.

The rest of the tournament will take place on Earthrealm.

JackofHearts2005 has been killed.

It is now Day 7. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

Pfft I still think he was bad.

Onto Speedchuck.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:28 am**

Uhg is the poll locked for anyone else, I can't place my vote anymore

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:29 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:59 am @Epignosis, votes don't appear to be changeable in the poll.

I hope that's not intentional.

Oh ok then

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:30 am**

lapluie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:50 am @DrWilgy why mac LOL.
.seriously

He fears me

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:16 am**

lapluie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:50 am @DrWilgy why mac LOL.
.seriously

Dom wasn't here. Got replaced. Mac might be bad.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:23 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:59 am @Epignosis, votes don't appear to be changeable in the poll.

I hope that's not intentional.

My bad.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:38 am**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:00 am
lapluie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:51 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:12 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:18 am I have set my vote on novaselinenever
A waste of a vote.
why do you think he voted for you? & how can you change that?
He probably voted for my inactivity. Because I can't recall having posted anything for him to be suspicious about. It's weird he isn't doing the same thing with Dave or Dom (before being replaced). I can't really answer the second part of the answer, I have no idea.

You currently have 38 posts in this topic. Dave has like, 1. Dom had zero, and he's been replaced by Mac.

Plenty to be suspicious of.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:49 am**

[mention]novaselinenever[/mention]

You have consistently been on the wrong side of history, in this game. Your posts came when it's convenient to nudge the bar further toward mislynches. Your content is limited, and you have refused to give us a meta read game to supplement that. (Not that I would. I'm lazy.)
I wouldn't say you're the scummiest scum to walk the earth, but you're more suspicious than Dave. And that's a problem.

A lot of your posts have centered around defense of yourself. And I'm past seeing that as a scumtell, but I at least know how to use it.

So en garde, Nova. Answer the following questions or face my single vote of wrath, along with all of the campaigning I can manage for your lynch.

1. There are 3 scum left. Who do you think they are?
2. If you had to pick one scum out of the remaining players to win the game immediately, who would you pick?
3. If there is one player in this game you can trust, who is it?
4. Why do you think the mafia chose to kill JoH?

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:56 am**

Early in the game, Made was icky on Marmot for reasons I'd call unclear ("wuffliness" is cited but not expanded upon):

Spoiler: show

Then they had this fluffy cotton candy exchange:

Spoiler: show

Then Made left it alone (including his periodic *poof* from the game until Marmot countered my independent claim:

Spoiler: show

The only possible tinfoil is that Marmot and I are teammates. What?

I don't fault Made for initially perceiving Marmot's goofiness as looking like his typical civilian nonsense, because my first reaction was similar. It's troubling though that Made so easily progressed from his early game suspicion -- with a prolonged absence from the thread thereafter -- to this acceptance of Marmot after he claimed independent. Moreover, the notion that the only evil Marmot in this scenario would require an evil JJJ alongside him just looks like a fake read to me.

He hasn't revisited the matter of Marmot since, and I was starting to get louder in my anti-Marmot talk while Made was still here on Day 5. There were opportunities. There's also this:

Spoiler: show

The first one is extremely vague without names attached to each "bad things/good things" player he's talking about (presumably Simon and nutella, but which is which?). It's a mess of a sentence, and proceeding into the next post they combine to serve as a laborious defense of Simon. One must go through some kinds of mental gymnastics to arrive at the conclusion that for x reason a civilian Simon wouldn't defend himself as much as a mafia Simon. It's dubious.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:01 am**

Mac said Jack was good. Jack said Mac is good. Jack dies. Mac did it.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:00 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:01 am Mac said Jack was good. Jack said Mac is good. Jack dies. Mac did it.

This. It's either Mac or Speedchuck. That suspicion of mine won't die until either me or Speed does.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:22 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:58 am I think I'll start the day with a Made vote.

No u

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:23 pm**

kidding. between class catch up incoming, izzz bout to be tight

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:25 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:00 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:01 am Mac said Jack was good. Jack said Mac is good. Jack dies. Mac did it.
This. It's either Mac or Speedchuck. That suspicion of mine won't die until either me or Speed does.

Both of these things are ridiculous and I'm not buying them.

Kill was probably sent in before Jack said anything about Mac. If Mac was scum, he'd already been here most of the night phase. That one statement wouldn't change their target, unless they're just throwing darts at a board.

Jack already thought he'd die before he said that. Probably for role-related reasons, or due to something he knew that we didn't. More concrete reason to think that Jack's read on Mac wasn't the reason he died, as if we needed more.

Furthermore, Jack's been reading me town for days. It's even more of a stretch to implicate me.

I'm all for nightkill analysis, and if you want to suspect Mac, that's cool. But do it in a way that makes sense. Jack was nightkilled. He might have been an info-role, if the bad guys wanted him dead. Use that.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:29 pm**

Still in the mood to lynch Nova or Made, despite Wilgy begging me to vote for him.

I mean, I'm not against a rousing Wilgy mob lynch, but I think I can get more mileage/substance out of my suspicions of Nova and Made.

. . .

Oh hell. Wilgy isn't on the poll.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:29 pm**

And to quickly refute, I kinda played politics in that one JJJ. I was more confident in a Nutella scum flip than a marmot one and thought that preaching for marmot's lynch felt like an intentional distraction, plus aside from his claim, which imo looked bad for both of you, he felt more into the game later that early on.

Can't read linki on mobile apparently

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:31 pm**

Hey [mention]DrWilgy[/mention], when did you learn that you were off the poll? This is important. Please be truthful.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:35 pm**

Made wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:29 pm And to quickly refute, I kinda played politics in that one JJJ. I was more confident in a Nutella scum flip than a marmot one and thought that preaching for marmot's lynch felt like an intentional distraction, plus aside from his claim, which imo looked bad for both of you, he felt more into the game later that early on.

Can't read linki on mobile apparently

*That those who were preaching for marmot's lynch were making an intentional distraction.

Also, side thought: why do you assume I was absent and not that I was silenced?

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:36 pm**

lapluie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:50 am @DrWilgy why mac LOL.
.seriously

This as well. If LC's case is the only thing there, I'm no feeling good with the wifom-city that shit creates

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:56 pm**

What makes you suspicious of Mac (those who have voted him and/or said he is suspicious)?

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:03 pm**

I think I suspect Wilgy more than anyone...hear me out.

I think Dom was the first player that was in need of replacement. I think I remember Epi saying that at some point in the thread.

Let's say Wilgy, Nova, and Dom are the remaining baddies. Marmot is lynched...the last of the participating baddies. Wilgy suddenly decides..."shit, I gotta start talking in the thread now." Dom is finally replaced (with Mac). Wilgy thinks...I will put a vote on him right away to make people think Mac has entered as a civ and not a my baddie teammate.

Am I crazy, or does that sound likely?

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:09 pm**

and actually..made could be substituted for Nova in that situation. What has made said all game?

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:51 pm**

Made do you usually always show up when there's a vote placed on you? It's been a pattern

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:13 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:31 pm Hey @DrWilgy, when did you learn that you were off the poll? This is important. Please be truthful.

Just now

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:15 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:13 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:31 pm Hey DrWilgy, when did you learn that you were off the poll? This is important. Please be truthful.
Just now

How disappointing. I was going to completely clear you as town.

Wilgy's still a suspect, sort of. Just not a strong one.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:16 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:15 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:13 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:31 pm Hey DrWilgy, when did you learn that you were off the poll? This is important. Please be truthful.
Just now
How disappointing. I was going to completely clear you as town.

Wilgy's still a suspect, sort of. Just not a strong one.

Lol why?

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:30 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:16 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:15 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:13 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:31 pm Hey DrWilgy, when did you learn that you were off the poll? This is important. Please be truthful.
Just now
How disappointing. I was going to completely clear you as town.

Wilgy's still a suspect, sort of. Just not a strong one.
Lol why?

Simon was taken off of the poll. I'm certain that was a mafia ability. It isn't displayed, so it was likely one-time use (as per the game rules in the OP).
JJJ has been taken off of the poll, twice. He's 3P. I'll let him have that.

I don't think that Mafia or 3P have two ways to remove themselves or others from the poll. Therefore, it is town that has removed you from the poll. Kitana, maybe, or someone else's one-shot power.

Why would Kitana remove you from the poll? YOU, specifically?

1. You are Kitana, and can self-target. You would have known about the removal at daystart, thus my question.
2. Kitana has a reason to think you town, strong enough to force us to lynch someone else. Information? Gutread? IDK. But for someone to vouch that strongly, I wouldn't discount the possibility of information.

I know you're off the poll, Wilgy, but I'll make the statement. I'm not interested in lynching you anymore. Today or tomorrow.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:34 pm**

self-targeting is forbidden in the rules list

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:53 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:34 pm self-targeting is forbidden in the rules list

Fair. Didn't see that.

Wilgy could have been a role that just takes itself off the poll, and my point would still stand. We'd need to check the other polls to see if Kitana is still alive and can account for someone else's absence.

But it doesn't matter because Wilgy isn't the cause of the poll abnormality.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:56 pm**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:03 pm I think I suspect Wilgy more than anyone...hear me out.

I think Dom was the first player that was in need of replacement. I think I remember Epi saying that at some point in the thread.

Let's say Wilgy, Nova, and Dom are the remaining baddies. Marmot is lynched...the last of the participating baddies. Wilgy suddenly decides..."shit, I gotta start talking in the thread now." Dom is finally replaced (with Mac). Wilgy thinks...I will put a vote on him right away to make people think Mac has entered as a civ and not a my baddie teammate.

Am I crazy, or does that sound likely?

Actually it's impossible because I am a civ.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:58 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:01 am Mac said Jack was good. Jack said Mac is good. Jack dies. Mac did it.

The first sentence is a total lie. The fourth is incorrect.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:03 pm**

So..... unless I'm wrong, MacDougall replacing Dom alters The Math, correct?

How large does our Piss pool be?

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:06 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:03 pm So..... unless I'm wrong, MacDougall replacing Dom alters The Math, correct?

How large does our PoE pool need to be?

Regret.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:09 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:56 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:03 pm I think I suspect Wilgy more than anyone...hear me out.

I think Dom was the first player that was in need of replacement. I think I remember Epi saying that at some point in the thread.

Let's say Wilgy, Nova, and Dom are the remaining baddies. Marmot is lynched...the last of the participating baddies. Wilgy suddenly decides..."shit, I gotta start talking in the thread now." Dom is finally replaced (with Mac). Wilgy thinks...I will put a vote on him right away to make people think Mac has entered as a civ and not a my baddie teammate.

Am I crazy, or does that sound likely?
says you
Actually it's impossible because I am a civ.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:09 pm**

sorry for the botched quote

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:10 pm**

Yes well would I say I was a Mafia if I was a civ?

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:15 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:34 pm self-targeting is forbidden in the rules list

That means nothing against chucks point if the role is like 'On a day of your choice you will be removed from the poll.'

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:23 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:03 pm So..... unless I'm wrong, MacDougall replacing Dom alters The Math, correct?

How large does our Piss pool be?

I just assumed this was a new slang.

I'm going to use it.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:41 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:15 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:34 pm self-targeting is forbidden in the rules list
That means nothing against chucks point if the role is like 'On a day of your choice you will be removed from the poll.'

If Kitana's secondary secret power was "once per game you may remove yourself from the poll" then sure, but that seems like kind of a boring secondary power. It's plausible, but I don't think Wilgy should be cleared because he might be Kitana. Occhams razor and all that.

But at the very least it tells us that Kitana doesn't want Wilgy lynched, and I think that's valuable on it's own.... I think.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:41 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:23 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:03 pm So..... unless I'm wrong, MacDougall replacing Dom alters The Math, correct?

How large does our Piss pool be?
I just assumed this was a new slang.

I'm going to use it.

im trendy

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:41 pm**

We are not pleased with your "Elohcin". We can see the fabric of space itself warp in her passing, the evil radiating so.

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:42 pm**

Hi ermac

Posted: **Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:45 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:42 pmHi ermac

Hi Master Charles. We are happy to return.

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